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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Grawsith on 27 Dec 2006, 15:19
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Lady Sovereign http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1sHAX2F4PE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1sHAX2F4PE)
British rapper, promoter of grime (the music style). I enjoy her stuff, but can't find anyone like her. The genre is either rare or elusive. Any ideas?
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I'm gonna say The Streets.
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I'm gonna say Roots Manuva, the only good English rapper I've heard. I don't know what "grime" is, sorry.
There will be serious hurts if you do not listen to Roots though.
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As far as grime goes, there's Kano (who's pretty good, has some nice samples) and there's Sway, who's brilliant, and then Dizzee Rascal. If you want girls, I'm not sure if there's many people around who are at a similar level.
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I think Lily Allen is supposed to sound somewhat similar? I haven't bothered to check her out because I haven't heard great things.
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Lily Allen is less obnoxious than Lady Sovereign. Her accent isn't as lovely, and she can actually sing in tune, etc. whereas Sovereign is more of a rapper.
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Not getting the American fascination with Lady Sov at ALL.
Kano is pretty good. 679 (a British section of Warners) have done a few Run The Road compilations with grime on them.
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I think you are underestimating the American love of the midget.
Oh little people, you are so endearing when you humiliate yourselves.
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Not getting the American fascination with Lady Sov at ALL.
The American attitude to British hip-hop is ludicrous.
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While we're all still misunderstanding the term 'grime' (no seriously, what is it?) - Wiley is pretty good in that kind of garagey-uk-rappy kinda way.
I know, I know. He'd like shoot me or something if he knew I said it was garage.
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According to this: http://pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/36498/They_Dont_Know (http://pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/36498/They_Dont_Know)
Fast, dark British rap, with connections to garage. Wiley features prominently on the list of important songs in that article.
I can't ay I know much more than that. My only experience with grime has been seeing Lady Sovereign at a couple festivals.
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The American attitude to British hip-hop is ludicrous.
What is the American attitude? That it doesn't suck?
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They take the chavviest, most god-awful, cringe-worthy crap we can put out and smother it in glory.
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Is this some ironic thing or is Lady Sovereign actually considered palatable outside this country?
The mind boggles.
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They take the chavviest, most god-awful, cringe-worthy crap we can put out and smother it in glory.
dont worry, they do it to american music too.
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According to this: http://pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/36498/They_Dont_Know (http://pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/36498/They_Dont_Know)
Fast, dark British rap, with connections to garage. Wiley features prominently on the list of important songs in that article.
I can't ay I know much more than that. My only experience with grime has been seeing Lady Sovereign at a couple festivals.
That's pretty much it. Just rap that's darker than most, and usually less club-oriented. It's not party-rap in the way that gangsta is.
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They take the chavviest, most god-awful, cringe-worthy crap we can put out and smother it in glory.
Because snoop dog and fiddy cent aren't massive in britain?
Anyway, I have yet to hear a chavvy rapper who was popular and wasn't filled with humour and self-awareness. You can't take someone who wrote a song like 'Hoodie' and act like it's a serious projection of their personality. It's like being annoyed at the aquabats
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I think she kind of sounds like M.I.A. Piracy Funds Terrorism is the best.
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I kind of liked Hoodie until I found out she was a small white chavlady and learned the actual lyrics to the song.
awful, just awful.
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Professor Green
Chattabox
not really similar, so much as better.
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I don't know if he's been mentioned by me or anyone else in this thread, but there's also Plan B. He's one of the best rappers Britain's got; he's profane, he's blatant, he's real, and his album Who Needs Actions When You Got Words is a brilliant hour. He's also pretty sick and funny too. Great stuff.
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Plan B just seems to be a gansta rapper in chavs clothing. The song I listened to just had him describing him being beaten up, then beating up someone, then smoking crack. Woop.
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That's just one song, man.
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Is this some ironic thing or is Lady Sovereign actually considered palatable outside this country?
I'll give you a pass because your recommendations in the Electronica thread prove you and I like a lot of the same music - actually, I think I listen to every single band you mentioned - but it's not an ironic thing; I have played Lady Sovereign for many of my friends - ages 26-36 who primarily like very out-there, experimental music, as well as epic/classic indie rock from Pixies to Broken Social Scene - and they all went nuts over how good she is.
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That's just one song, man.
One too many.
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I heard a clip of her on Mtv. The lyrics were really dumb and the beat seemed really generic. But that obviously isn't enough listening to judge.
Also, the American attitude torward British hip-hop is to pretty much ignore it. Which I do.
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I'll give you a pass because your recommendations in the Electronica thread prove you and I like a lot of the same music - actually, I think I listen to every single band you mentioned - but it's not an ironic thing; I have played Lady Sovereign for many of my friends - ages 26-36 who primarily like very out-there, experimental music, as well as epic/classic indie rock from Pixies to Broken Social Scene - and they all went nuts over how good she is.
Maybe its because Americans have never had to deal with a fucking chav.
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Chavs are like Nazis tuned to A#?