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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: AnotherQCaddict on 13 Jan 2007, 22:31
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the thread title explains what I want, so here are the bands I already listen to.
-Metallica ( some of it )
-System of a Down ( most of it )
-Jimmy Eat World ( some of it )
-Linkin Park ( some of it 2 )
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some of it - I only have one cd's worth, but i like the style
some of it 2 - One cd's worth, like style of some songs, dislikes others
most of it - more than one cd's worth, and (durr) likes style
please make reccomendations based on this... and please, no criticisms based on what I like. This is for suggestions. I wouldn't criticize someone for liking a band that I don't like.
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Jesus nunthumping christ.
I don't even know where to start.
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Hundred Reasons
Refused
Hell is for Heroes
Killing Joke
Rage Against The Machine
SikTh
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Get Big Black's Songs About Fucking.
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Trying my best to take this seriously, let's see if I can save you. Here's a list of bands I think you should check out.
Incubus
Minus the Bear
Cursive
Bear vs. Shark
The Dismemberment Plan
That last one just might change your life, they opened the floodgates to great music for me.
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s-save me? I thought I said no criticizing... oh well... i'll take any suggestions in the same light as any other suggestion.
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Alright dude, we're going easy on you, so don't be touchy like that. I could go off on the shittiness of Linkin Park for hours if I wanted to.
I'm gonna recommend Annihilator based on your Metallica taste and The Pixies because you should listen to them.
@Kyros- Good idea recommending Bear vs Shark.
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Dude, come on. *sigh*
Well, even though everyone already knows what I'm gonna say...
Artist (CD you should download first)
Testament (The New Order)
Nevermore (Dead Heart in a Dead World)
Iced Earth (Something Wicked this Way Comes)
Iron Maiden (Piece of Mind)
Mastodon (Leviathan)
Megadeth (Rust in Peace)
Motorhead (Ace of Spades)
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Seconding Refused; everyone should listen to "Shape Of Punk To Come" at least once in their lives.
Maybe try some Hot Water Music? "Caution" is a phenomenal album.
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Try Jawbox. If that doesn't work for you, the Deftones will prove more accessible.
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If you're going to listen to Deftones, I would suggest starting with either "White Pony" of "Saturday Night Wrist," because you might as well start with the best. You can go back and listen to Adrenaline and Around The Fur later for history's sake, and if you avoid the self-titled release altogether, I shan't hold it against you.
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I'm definitely going to 'third' that recommendation of Refused. Motherfucker I love that band! The Shape Of Punk To Come, Poetry Written In Gasoline, New Noise, a bunch of others. What an awesome band.
You might like International NOISE Conspiracy. Download the track "Timebomb" by them.
I'm going to agree with Storm Rider, even though I never caught on with Nevermore much, but the rest, definitely.
The newest Trivium album, "The Crusade" sounds exactly like old school Metallica with more pop hooks and singsonginess. They shred almost too much, sometimes. You would definitely be down with that.
Also, get Nonpoint's "Development" album. Very catchy, very well written, very accessible, and yet, on the harder edge of nu-metal.
Now here are my most enthusiastic recommendations:
Opeth - the songs are even longer than the Metallica you've been listening to, but you should be able to dig it, if you give it a chance. Mandatory tracks: The Drapery Falls, The Moor, White Cluster (I could go on but that's already like half an hour)
Porcupine Tree - The guy that produces Opeth, Steve Wilson, plays guitar and sings in, as well as produces this band. Amazing material, ranging from heavy to soft, always cool and accessible, yet mature and complex. Fucking great band. Just get everything by them. But if you want a sample first, listen to "Wedding Nails" "Collapse The Light Into The Earth" and "The Sound Of Muzak"
Tool - My favorite band... you must know of them. System Of A Down are among my favorites, and I find most SOAD listeners love Tool as well. If you haven't listened very extensively, check out these tracks. "Jerk-Off," "Sober," "Bottom," "Forty-Six & 2," "Eulogy," "The Grudge," "Ticks and Leeches," "Jambi," and, finally "Right In Two."
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Alright dude, we're going easy on you, so don't be touchy like that. I could go off on the shittiness of Linkin Park for hours if I wanted to.
I'm gonna recommend Annihilator based on your Metallica taste and The Pixies because you should listen to them.
@Kyros- Good idea recommending Bear vs Shark.
lmao... it's called a joke. I am allowed to not be serious right? I don't really hate any genre... except crap, er... rap.
EDIT: yes, i've heard of tool. haven't heard it yet...
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Really, you hate rap? Wow, your musical tastes are. . . narrow. Listen to Mos Def, The Roots' early stuff, and Sage Francis.
Sorry, I read your second post really fast and didn't pick up on the irony/sarcasm/whatever initially.
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If you are going to check out Tool, check out Aenima, it is the most solid of all their albums, although its not my favorite by a long shot.
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Man, I fucking hate Trivium.
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Linkin Park rap sometimes, yo. I think.
Death From Above, 1979 is my recommendation.
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what you should do...based on that list of recomendations
go find your copy of garage inc. by metallica (you did by it right?) flip to the very last page of the booklet
then go out and buy every single album listed in that cover
once you've listened to all those albums come back and talk to us again
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Ouch Gridgm.
In other news, listen to the
MC5
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Based on what you listed
At the Gates - Slaughter of the Soul
Black Sabbath - Sabotage, Paranoid
Pantera - Cowboys from Hell, Vulgar Display of Power
Slayer - Reign in Blood, South of Heaven, Seasons in the Abyss
Fear Factory - Demanufacture, Obsolete
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I'd advise you to try some web services for this... two I've found to be quite amazing are http://www.last.fm/ (http://www.last.fm/) and http://www.pandora.com/ (http://www.pandora.com/). Both produce reccomendations that I actually like.
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Spineshank - The Height Of Callousness. If you're going to listen to nu-metal, do it properly ;)
Porcupine Tree - The guy that produces Opeth, Steve Wilson, plays guitar and sings in, as well as produces this band. Amazing material, ranging from heavy to soft, always cool and accessible, yet mature and complex. Fucking great band. Just get everything by them. But if you want a sample first, listen to "Wedding Nails" "Collapse The Light Into The Earth" and "The Sound Of Muzak"
The best CD to start with if you're into whole albums is probably either 'Stupid Dream' or 'In Absentia'. Be a bit wary about listening to older CDs, some of their albums like 'Voyage 34' and 'The Sky Moves Sideways' are quasi-ambient experimental psychedelic stuff with little respect for such musical standards as 'lyrics', 'vocals' or indeed actual 'songs'. Excellent nonetheless but a bit different to the band these days.
Also, if you like Porcupine Tree, investigate Steve's collaboration with Israeli singer Aviv Geffen, Blackfield. Their CDs are both untitled ('Blackfield' and the new one 'Blackfield II', which though unreleased is available through nefarious means and will shortly be able to be legally purchased)
Tool - My favorite band... you must know of them. System Of A Down are among my favorites, and I find most SOAD listeners love Tool as well. If you haven't listened very extensively, check out these tracks. "Jerk-Off," "Sober," "Bottom," "Forty-Six & 2," "Eulogy," "The Grudge," "Ticks and Leeches," "Jambi," and, finally "Right In Two."
Just as most SOAD fans go on to like Tool, there seems to be a strange correlation between Tool fans and Nine Inch Nails fans so listen to Nine Inch Nails I guess. I can't really explain it but I've found very few people who like one but not the other. Maybe because they're both really popular and kinda edgy and controversial in a safe, approchable way. Or maybe it is just a coincidence. Either way you'll probably like Nine Inch Nails.
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I don't know if this dude is ready for Porcupine Tree. He should just start off with some Floyd.
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Dude, Funhouse.
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Dude, Loveless.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
seriously though, i second the death from above 1979 reccomendation. i kinda hate 'em myself but they'll probably suit your needs.
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Man, I fucking hate Trivium.
I saw a Metal Hammer cover recently, on which Trivium were actually being hailed as the saviours of true metal.
I am so glad that I stopped reading that shit-rag before the rot got quite that far.
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lmao... it's called a joke. I am allowed to not be serious right? I don't really hate any genre... except crap, er... rap.
Oh fuck you, man.
My recommendations still stand though. Especially Refused. They're not rap. They just made one punk's great albums.
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Nothing nice is updating again? SWEET.
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Mitch is updating NN2S from time to time, yeah. This is an old Joe Dunn guest strip though.
Just check out Mitch's site (http://www.mitchclem.com/).
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Nelson's "After The Rain" is the heaviest shit since Metallica's "Until It Sleeps." I suggest looking into Nelson. Don't be fooled by the name, either. They're in it to win it.
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I recommend http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide).
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Wine is fine, but whiskey's quicker?
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and cheddar is bettar....
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Camus can do, but Satre is smartre!
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I hate the term "true metal." It reeks of pretense and elitism. Trivium may not be the most original band in the world, and they may have gotten popular through shameless scene slutting, but they are fucking talented. I don't care who says otherwise.
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I hate the term "true metal." It reeks of pretense and elitism. Trivium may not be the most original band in the world, and they may have gotten popular through shameless scene slutting, but they fail at music. I don't care who says otherwise.
I fixed that for you.
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okay... this thread has evolved from suggestions to a quasi-arguement about music... i've taken some suggestions, the rap comment was sarcasm, and posting in this thread is now and forever irrelevant
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At another forum, we made rules... number seven was:
"7. THE EASIEST WAY TO LOSE AN ARGUMENT AND SEEM STUPID IS TO SAY, "I WAS JUST JOKING, ANYWAYS!" WE KNOW YOU WEREN'T. WE KNOW WIT, HUMOR AND PSYCHOLOGY, AND WE KNOW THEM MORE THAN YOU."
Have you listened to DFA 1979 yet?
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Thanks mizzy, I knew something was wrong, but I just couldn't put my finger on it. ;)
Seriously, have any of you guys listened to The Crusade?
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Thanks mizzy, I knew something was wrong, but I just couldn't put my finger on it. ;)
Seriously, have any of you guys listened to The Crusade?
That's the Metallica covers album, right?
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There's a difference between elitism and understanding quality. Trivium is fucking terrible. Accept it and move on.
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Yeah, stylistically it definitely IS a Metallica/Pantera tribute album, with maybe a little AFI thrown in for good measure. I think it's by far their best album so far. The guy was 13 when they recorded Ember To Inferno. That doesn't impress you even a little? Granted, that means he could only shriek like a stuck pig instead of legitimately vocalize. But still. Musically. I've been asking people to explain to me why they suck for years now, musically, and I have never gotten a single respectable answer. It's evidently dictated by the metal church that true metallers must hate Trivium. Now I'll say this about Matt Heafy. He's a spoiled, arrogant douche bag who was handed all this by supportive parents, he's been afforded every opportunity, etc etc. But goddamn, I play lead guitar and I play it well, if I do say so myself, and that guy's technique destroys mine.
Songwriting, is of course, a different story.
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Spineshank - The Height Of Callousness. If you're going to listen to nu-metal, do it properly ;)
Also, if you like Porcupine Tree, investigate Steve's collaboration with Israeli singer Aviv Geffen, Blackfield. Their CDs are both untitled ('Blackfield' and the new one 'Blackfield II', which though unreleased is available through nefarious means and will shortly be able to be legally purchased)
Tool - My favorite band... you must know of them. System Of A Down are among my favorites, and I find most SOAD listeners love Tool as well. If you haven't listened very extensively, check out these tracks. "Jerk-Off," "Sober," "Bottom," "Forty-Six & 2," "Eulogy," "The Grudge," "Ticks and Leeches," "Jambi," and, finally "Right In Two."
Just as most SOAD fans go on to like Tool, there seems to be a strange correlation between Tool fans and Nine Inch Nails fans so listen to Nine Inch Nails I guess. I can't really explain it but I've found very few people who like one but not the other. Maybe because they're both really popular and kinda edgy and controversial in a safe, approchable way. Or maybe it is just a coincidence. Either way you'll probably like Nine Inch Nails.
Spineshank is good. There are actually quite a few good bands from that era that got drowned out by the Korns and the Papa Roaches and the Limp Bizkits and the Crazy Towns.
I downloaded Blackfield a couple years ago, but I don't remember ever listening to it. Odd because normally anything Steve Wilson has a hand in that I find out about I am all over like flies on feces.
I used to frequent a website called Audiogalaxy... the Tool and NIN boards were pretty much interchangeable there. The two bands are very closely associated, if by fanbase more than anything else.
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I like a fair bit of NIN's stuff especially "Pretty Hate Machine" can't really say why it's fairly different to most other stuff I like. Tool on the other hand I can pretty much take or leave, Opiate is a good cd, most of their other albums are a bit of a chore to sit through though.
Despite that when I saw Tool at the Canberra Theatre a few years ago it was a pretty amazing gig.
As for Metal Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Church), all I can say is listen to "In the Dark" Great album.
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Yeah, stylistically it definitely IS a Metallica/Pantera tribute album, with maybe a little AFI thrown in for good measure. I think it's by far their best album so far. The guy was 13 when they recorded Ember To Inferno. That doesn't impress you even a little? Granted, that means he could only shriek like a stuck pig instead of legitimately vocalize. But still. Musically. I've been asking people to explain to me why they suck for years now, musically, and I have never gotten a single respectable answer. It's evidently dictated by the metal church that true metallers must hate Trivium. Now I'll say this about Matt Heafy. He's a spoiled, arrogant douche bag who was handed all this by supportive parents, he's been afforded every opportunity, etc etc. But goddamn, I play lead guitar and I play it well, if I do say so myself, and that guy's technique destroys mine.
Songwriting, is of course, a different story.
Okay unlike everyone else I'm going to meet you eye-to-eye here.
You're right. As far as musicality, Trivium as a band are fairly talented. They can shred. But musicality isn't everything, as you have indicated. The solos in 'Pull Harder On The Strings,' for example; I'm no shred fan normally, but those solos are ridiculous. They're in that ridiculous type of timing where they're playing in 2/3 of a beat or something stupid so that to everyone else except them it sounds out of time; never mind the fact that they're amelodic and shit.
They can play, yeah, sure. But they don't play well.
As far as NIN, I love that band. I realise the vocals are often pretty shite. But Trent Reznor's appreciation of dynamic range, pushing mixing desks to their limit and crazy time signatures speaks to me for some reason.
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okay... this thread has evolved from suggestions to a quasi-arguement about music... i've taken some suggestions, the rap comment was sarcasm, and posting in this thread is now and forever irrelevant
You strike me as fairly stupid.
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I used to frequent a website called Audiogalaxy... the Tool and NIN boards were pretty much interchangeable there. The two bands are very closely associated, if by fanbase more than anything else.
Yeah, I guess that's what I was getting it. It's no slight on either band, they just seem curiously intertwined considering the difference in style.
okay... this thread has evolved from suggestions to a quasi-arguement about music... i've taken some suggestions, the rap comment was sarcasm, and posting in this thread is now and forever irrelevant
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ok ok... I guess I can't just declare this thread over... just know that I won't be visiting this thread after this post... so... i'm happy with the suggestions... and point taken about the saying it's a joke after you've seen it.
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Nelson's "After The Rain" is the heaviest shit since Metallica's "Until It Sleeps." I suggest looking into Nelson. Don't be fooled by the name, either. They're in it to win it.
You could even say, "They're in it full, Nelson."
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Careful, Johnny...Joe Hocking's handing out death sentences for bad puns today.
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I'm not afraid of this.
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Yeah, stylistically it definitely IS a Metallica/Pantera tribute album, with maybe a little AFI thrown in for good measure. I think it's by far their best album so far. The guy was 13 when they recorded Ember To Inferno. That doesn't impress you even a little? Granted, that means he could only shriek like a stuck pig instead of legitimately vocalize. But still. Musically. I've been asking people to explain to me why they suck for years now, musically, and I have never gotten a single respectable answer. It's evidently dictated by the metal church that true metallers must hate Trivium. Now I'll say this about Matt Heafy. He's a spoiled, arrogant douche bag who was handed all this by supportive parents, he's been afforded every opportunity, etc etc. But goddamn, I play lead guitar and I play it well, if I do say so myself, and that guy's technique destroys mine.
Songwriting, is of course, a different story.
Okay unlike everyone else I'm going to meet you eye-to-eye here.
You're right. As far as musicality, Trivium as a band are fairly talented. They can shred. But musicality isn't everything, as you have indicated. The solos in 'Pull Harder On The Strings,' for example; I'm no shred fan normally, but those solos are ridiculous. They're in that ridiculous type of timing where they're playing in 2/3 of a beat or something stupid so that to everyone else except them it sounds out of time; never mind the fact that they're amelodic and shit.
They can play, yeah, sure. But they don't play well.
As far as NIN, I love that band. I realise the vocals are often pretty shite. But Trent Reznor's appreciation of dynamic range, pushing mixing desks to their limit and crazy time signatures speaks to me for some reason.
Your acknowledgement of their musical talent is appreciated. Now I can get to part two of my Trivium diatribe: These guys have no fucking clue how to write a song! There are actually some pretty good song ideas throughout all their work, and some damn catchy melodies and choruses... but it's never cohesive, and it's usually spoiled by something utterly tasteless. It's a damn shame. Still, I listen to it and enjoy it for what it is.
NIN though... quality. That's all.
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