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Title: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Jackie Blue on 24 Jan 2007, 18:57: Overheard at a local show:

"Oh yeah? Well I liked TV On the Radio before I knew they were black."

Burn!
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Johnny C on 24 Jan 2007, 20:51: I did the same thing with The Dears and Bloc Party.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Jackie Blue on 24 Jan 2007, 20:59: I found TV On the Radio's first EP right after it came out for a dollar at a local used book/CD store and bought it solely because of the label it was on, and it had a cool cover, and well, it was a DOLLAR. I'd never heard anything about them, and at the time I was like "This is so incredibly good, but I don't think too many people are going to dig industrial soul music".

Yeah, I was wrong.

And I still don't think their two albums have been as good as that EP, sadly.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Thrillho on 24 Jan 2007, 21:21: That applies to a lot of bands.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: ScrambledGregs on 24 Jan 2007, 21:39: Casual, jokey racism?? Yawn.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Jackie Blue on 24 Jan 2007, 23:37: Quote from: ScrambledGregs on 24 Jan 2007, 21:39
Casual, jokey racism?? Yawn.

Uh, I don't think you get it.

The dis being that one might cynically think that some hipsters only like TV On the Radio so much because they're black.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: ScrambledGregs on 25 Jan 2007, 00:34: No, I got it. It's just stupid, casual, jokey racism.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Jackie Blue on 25 Jan 2007, 00:38: Quote from: ScrambledGregs on 25 Jan 2007, 00:34
No, I got it. It's just stupid, casual, jokey racism.

Explain to me how it is racist. The dis is saying "I like TV On the Radio because they are good; you like them to look more urban and relevant."

How is that racist?
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: KharBevNor on 25 Jan 2007, 00:42: It's not.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: thepugs on 25 Jan 2007, 00:45: It'd be racist if I said something like "now I have another reason not to like them."

But really, I don't like them. And I didn't know they were black.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Johnny C on 25 Jan 2007, 01:08: I heard a cover of Bowie's "Heroes" by Nico and thought, "Hm, the dude singing this has a weird voice." So... I liked Nico before I knew she was a girl.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Jackie Blue on 25 Jan 2007, 01:17: Quote from: Johnny C on 25 Jan 2007, 01:08
I heard a cover of Bowie's "Heroes" by Nico and thought, "Hm, the dude singing this has a weird voice." So... I liked Nico before I knew she was a girl.

Haha. The same thing happened in reverse when I heard Devendra Banhart. The pirate station I was a DJ at got a promo of his first album and before I read the press kit, I listened to it and thought "This is one weird chick."
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Johnny C on 25 Jan 2007, 01:19: I also used to think Joanna Newsom was like eight.
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Post by: karl gambolputty... on 25 Jan 2007, 01:25: I liked Cat Power before I knew she was really hot
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Jackie Blue on 25 Jan 2007, 01:34: Quote from: karl gambolputty... on 25 Jan 2007, 01:25
I liked Cat Power before I knew she was really hot

Quote from: tommydski
First time I saw JN years back in a tiny bar in Brixton I was so drunk I nearly asked for her phone number.

I really should have asked for her phone number.

Interestingly enough, I have Cat Power's phone number. I befriended her after a show she played in '98 and we've stayed in touch ever since.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Johnny C on 25 Jan 2007, 02:02: Tommy has you beaten.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Jackie Blue on 25 Jan 2007, 02:17: Quote from: tommydski on 25 Jan 2007, 02:03
Meh, fuck that woman.

I want to hear the story!
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Misereatur on 25 Jan 2007, 02:23: I think we all do.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Ernest on 25 Jan 2007, 02:38: Quote from: ScrambledGregs on 25 Jan 2007, 00:34
No, I got it. It's just stupid, casual, jokey racism.

ScrambledGregs: What? I didn't understand the sentence at first but I assume it's racist! Eh? What's that you say? It's not racist? Well, I knew that, but I'm still calling it racist.

Greg, you are a laugh.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Ben yayayayayayayay on 25 Jan 2007, 02:46: At first I read it like "I liked TV On The Radio...before I heard they were black."
As in he stopped liking them because of their blackioscityness

Then I realized I read it wrong. Right Greg? Did I read it wrong Greg? GREG
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Thrillho on 25 Jan 2007, 03:33: This thread is an abortion that survived.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: fish across face on 25 Jan 2007, 05:05: Quote from: tommydski on 25 Jan 2007, 01:26
First time I saw JN years back in a tiny bar in Brixton I was so drunk I nearly asked for her phone number.

I really should have asked for her phone number.
Isn't wanting to get it on with a gelfling kinda dirty?

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Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: KharBevNor on 25 Jan 2007, 05:15: A beautiful human being with a really horrible singing voice, the production of which makes her look like a caricatured retard when she sings.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: KharBevNor on 25 Jan 2007, 05:23: What?
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: fish across face on 25 Jan 2007, 05:28: Should post the Laibach version to aid comprehension. Know your audience.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: KharBevNor on 25 Jan 2007, 05:37: (http://www.rounder.com/images/album/ROUN/ROUN8113_Cover.jpg)
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Jan 2007, 05:58: Quote from: ScrambledGregs on 25 Jan 2007, 00:34
No, I got it. It's just stupid, casual, jokey racism.

ONOES A WHITE PERSON SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A BLACK PERSON THEY MUST BE RACIST.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: KharBevNor on 25 Jan 2007, 06:19: Quote from: tommydski on 25 Jan 2007, 05:48
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Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Joseph on 25 Jan 2007, 06:26: Zerodrone, Tommy's quiki has some information on the matter: http://www.quiki.net/index.php/Tommydski
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: ScrambledGregs on 25 Jan 2007, 07:11: This thread just keeps getting better.
Title: This thread:
Post by: fish across face on 25 Jan 2007, 07:15: (http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w227/personperson_2007/R-70068-1084229896.jpg)
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Ernest on 25 Jan 2007, 07:19: (http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q171/elobue1/411132028_m.gif)
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Johnny C on 25 Jan 2007, 10:07: (http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/756/tamlpts310re4ed.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Jackie Blue on 25 Jan 2007, 11:28: Quote from: Dark Flame on 25 Jan 2007, 06:26
Zerodrone, Tommy's quiki has some information on the matter: http://www.quiki.net/index.php/Tommydski

Holy shit, Tommy is me as of 10 years ago!

Amazing.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Schmitt on 25 Jan 2007, 14:22: Tommy you rule for liking bourbon, I can think of no finer spirit save for scotch.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: ScrambledGregs on 25 Jan 2007, 21:21: OK guys here's why I thought it was racist. I missed the italics in the phrase. I thought he was saying something like "I liked the band before I knew they were black", as in, "once I found out they were black I stopped liking them."
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Evil_Lathander on 25 Jan 2007, 23:11: Why are thre so little metal bands with black people in them I wonder...
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: KharBevNor on 26 Jan 2007, 00:09: Reams have been written on the subject. It's culture. You get less black metalheads, and so less black people in metal bands. It's not active discrimination inside the metal scene, apart from a very few people, so much as people just not being interested.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: valley_parade on 26 Jan 2007, 01:02: I think Troll showed gabbly a metal band from Botswana once. They weren't very good though.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Ben yayayayayayayay on 26 Jan 2007, 01:43: Quote from: ScrambledGregs on 25 Jan 2007, 21:21
OK guys here's why I thought it was racist. I missed the italics in the phrase. I thought he was saying something like "I liked the band before I knew they were black", as in, "once I found out they were black I stopped liking them."

That's what I said you read! <3333333333
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: ScrambledGregs on 26 Jan 2007, 07:03: I totally glazed over your post, and for that I am eternally sorry. ETERNALLY.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Jackie Blue on 26 Jan 2007, 07:16: A better question would be "Why are there so few black metalheads/indie rockers/industrial musicians/etc"? I mean, plenty of white people like hip-hop, so why doesn't the door swing both ways? I can count on two hands the number of black people I've seen at non hip-hop shows, and I've been to a fuckton of shows.

Is there even one example of a black country singer?
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: fish across face on 26 Jan 2007, 07:21: Yep, Charley Pride.

I think these kinds of things are too big, too confusing, and involve too many different factors to ruminate about on a message board / forum / whatever.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Jackie Blue on 26 Jan 2007, 07:24: Quote from: fish across face on 26 Jan 2007, 07:21
I think these kinds of things are too big, too confusing, and involve too many different factors to ruminate about on a message board / forum / whatever.

Like that's ever stopped anyone before! :-D
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Kai on 26 Jan 2007, 09:09: Quote from: Johnny C on 25 Jan 2007, 10:07
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(http://www.zero.co.nz/music/images/Sly%20&%20The%20Family%20Stone%20-%20There's%20A%20Riot%20Goin'%20On.jpg)
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Johnny C on 26 Jan 2007, 09:16: Quote from: zerodrone on 26 Jan 2007, 07:16
Is there even one example of a black country singer?

COWBOY TROY

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I LOVE HICK-HOP
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Storm Rider on 26 Jan 2007, 12:13: I think Nevermore's drummer is black. I might be making that up though.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: KharBevNor on 26 Jan 2007, 12:20: There's black peeps scattered about the metal scene.

As I was trying to say, you more have to go up to black people and be like WHY DON'T YOU LIKE METAL!!!??? Than go up to metalheads and be like WHY DON'T YOU LIKE BLACK PEOPLE!?
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Storm Rider on 26 Jan 2007, 12:34: I think accusing metal of being racist for not having black people is like accusing rap music of being racist for not having white people. It's kind of silly and shortsighted.

And Eminem doesn't count.
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Post by: Misereatur on 26 Jan 2007, 08:11: (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2/ffgtthttghyujjfdss/beastie.jpg)
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Thrillho on 26 Jan 2007, 08:17: Quote from: Storm Rider on 26 Jan 2007, 12:34
I think accusing metal of being racist for not having black people is like accusing rap music of being racist for not having white people. It's kind of silly and shortsighted.

And Eminem doesn't count.

Ice ice baby...
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: SeanBateman on 26 Jan 2007, 12:12: Bubba Sparxxxxxx
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Post by: kallisti on 26 Jan 2007, 19:02: Sage Francis

or is he technically hip hop? I am stupid and do not know the difference. Either way, the same race thing applies. Sage Francis is white in a black-dominated genre, and he's good stuff.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Skibas_clavicle on 26 Jan 2007, 19:42: Atmosphere (Slug), El-P, Remedy, Classified, Eyedea and Abilities, Aesop Rock, etc.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Cartilage Head on 26 Jan 2007, 23:46: I liked The Decemberists before I knew that they made music.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: Runs_With_Scissors on 26 Jan 2007, 23:58: Niiiice hey_ther_fatty..This thread is very interesting...I'm going watch before I make a witty response to anything .

Though I did see some PERSON quoting the post above them...wtf...
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: glwtta on 28 Jan 2007, 20:43: Quote from: KharBevNor on 26 Jan 2007, 00:09
Reams have been written on the subject. It's culture. You get less black metalheads, and so less black people in metal bands. It's not active discrimination inside the metal scene, apart from a very few people, so much as people just not being interested.

So what you are saying is, METAL : HIP HOP :: HOCKEY : BASKETBALL
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: glwtta on 28 Jan 2007, 20:47: Quote from: hey_there_fatty on 26 Jan 2007, 23:46
I liked The Decemberists before I knew that they made music.

I liked Ladytron before I knew that Mira Aroyo is Bulgarian.
Title: Re: Music Snob Dis Of the Day:
Post by: minkles on 29 Jan 2007, 13:18: (http://api.mds.att-idns.net/xmlserver/img/005000-005999/med_5030.jpg)