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Title: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Jackie Blue on 30 May 2007, 13:10
At least they were last night.  Sweet Christ, I actually kept falling asleep.  They did not once play any instruments.  Unless you count a floor tom as an "instrument".  They didn't play any actual songs off their albums.  They just futzed around with pre-recorded tracks and "sang" some not-very-good vocals over it.

Srsly, if I had paid to get in I would have demanded a refund.

Also, I'm pissed that Sir Richard fucking Bishop was the opener, but he apparently started playing the second the doors were open and only played about 20 minutes, because in the time it took me to drink a beer next door, I got a call saying he had already finished.

A summation of the crowd reaction:

EVERYONE UNDER 19: That was the coolest thing I've ever seen.

EVERYONE OVER 19: That was fucking terrible.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: ALoveSupreme on 30 May 2007, 13:18
I saw a few videos and gathered they seemed terrible, though semi-well taped quality videos are not always the best indicator. 

My friend that is exactly 19 thought they were amazing, so how does that work out?
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Jackie Blue on 30 May 2007, 13:24
It's not even just that they were bad, they were bad and boring.  It would have at least been interesting if they had like, made a terrible racket and screamed and jumped around and shit, but nope.

Also, LOL at all the kids who kept applauding for an encore and didn't get one.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: jeph on 30 May 2007, 13:45
Isn't Animal Collective's deal that they never play songs off their albums live?
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Jackie Blue on 30 May 2007, 14:01
Them not playing songs off their albums was by far the least of my complaints, but a couple friends of mine swear they did play a couple songs off Sung Tongs and Feels.  I couldn't tell, though, because of the massive vortex of SUCK they were creating.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: jeph on 30 May 2007, 14:11
"songs" and "instrumentation" are SO 2004
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Thrillho on 30 May 2007, 14:41
Ah, presumably this is them still doing this:

http://www.rockmidgets.com/releases.php?page=3&id=1571

Without exaggeration, the worst 'music' I've ever heard.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: SeanBateman on 30 May 2007, 14:56
Maybe you just didn't get it. That happens to people sometimes if they are not cool. Are you cool?
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Jackie Blue on 30 May 2007, 15:39
Oh, I "got it" alright.  It was just fucking horrible.

I mean, hey.  I saw z'ev a couple weeks ago and honestly enjoyed him.  I can listen to Metal Machine Music without even a hint of irony.  I consider even Sun City Girls songs like "Sexy Graveyard" and "Bird of Prey" to be pretty good.  But these guys... man.  It was like watching three retarded highschool kids masturbating onstage.

I generally avoid music press, but the local alternative weekly had an article about them, which I just read while waiting on a pizza.  It says they "don't give interviews" and that they insist they play "folk music".  So maybe now all the people who bitched about how "pretentious" GY!BE were can aim at these douchelords.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Johnny C on 30 May 2007, 16:15
No, guys, he's right, they're shit live.

A friend of mine saw them in Montreal. They started with ten minutes of just hollering randomly. Then they played, going to far as to actually include "The Purple Bottle" and a bit of "Grass," if I remember right.

However,

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/sjbrot/Concerts/Animal%20Collective/022006AnimalCollectiveFirstNations0.jpg)

it was apparently "like watching a shadow for three hours."
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Misereatur on 30 May 2007, 23:35
I should not be reading this thread :(
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: ScrambledGregs on 31 May 2007, 08:24
None of this changes the fact that their albums are really god damn good. It's too bad they insist on being a minimalist improv band live, but at least I know never to bother seeing them now.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Emaline on 31 May 2007, 09:22
This whole thing makes me kinda want to see them now.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Jackie Blue on 31 May 2007, 09:51
Sung Tongs and Feels are definitely good albums.

Live, they are the indie rock equivalent of Phish.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Johnny C on 31 May 2007, 11:28
This whole thing makes me kinda want to see them now.
The entire point of my post was that you don't really see them, though!
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 31 May 2007, 12:39
Any idea if Panda Bear is similar live? I was going to see him in June but now I'm worried. Are his live shows more impressive?
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Emaline on 31 May 2007, 13:41
This whole thing makes me kinda want to see them now.
The entire point of my post was that you don't really see them, though!



But I like to watch pompous masturbatory displays of egotism. It will be like watching a car crash.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Ben yayayayayayayay on 31 May 2007, 14:15
Any idea if Panda Bear is similar live? I was going to see him in June but now I'm worried. Are his live shows more impressive?

This video tells me Noah's pretty straightforward live, but still amazing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMLF6qzfJxs&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMLF6qzfJxs&mode=related&search=)

And since I was already on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zbYYKzTFeQ&mode=related&search=

Why isn't AC like that when people pay to see them  :?
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Thrillho on 31 May 2007, 14:22
But I like to watch pompous masturbatory displays of egotism. It will be like watching a car crash.

...

HEH?
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Johnny C on 31 May 2007, 16:44
But I like to watch pompous masturbatory displays of egotism. It will be like watching a car crash.
EXCEPT YOU CAN SEE THE CAR CRASH
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: ScrambledGregs on 01 Jun 2007, 17:20
Sung Tongs and Feels are definitely good albums.

Live, they are the indie rock equivalent of Phish.


Well, Phish is/was one of my favorite bands, so I guess I would shit, piss, and splooge in my pants if I went to see Animal Collective live.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Caspian on 02 Jun 2007, 06:25
I've heard heaps about how crap these guys are. Every time a 'worst live band' thread pops up in any sort of forum, these guys always get mentioned.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: jeph on 03 Jun 2007, 16:45
But I like to watch pompous masturbatory displays of egotism. It will be like watching a car crash.
EXCEPT YOU CAN SEE THE CAR CRASH

also typically being in a car crash does not make you enough money that you can move to Spain and bang the chick with the creepy voice from Mûm
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Johnny C on 03 Jun 2007, 17:02
also typically being in a car crash does not make you enough money that you can move to Spain and bang the chick with the creepy voice from Mûm

(http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/9066/tom2ty6.jpg)
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: jeph on 03 Jun 2007, 17:31
Purple bottle == red Swingline??
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Johnny C on 03 Jun 2007, 23:15
that's, that's it, that's, i'm, i'm gonna burnthebuildingdown, that's, i'm gonna burnthebuildingdown
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: ScrambledGregs on 04 Jun 2007, 15:28
But I like to watch pompous masturbatory displays of egotism. It will be like watching a car crash.
EXCEPT YOU CAN SEE THE CAR CRASH

also typically being in a car crash does not make you enough money that you can move to Spain and bang the chick with the creepy voice from Mûm

Wrong guy. You're thinking of Avey Tare.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Ben yayayayayayayay on 04 Jun 2007, 19:46
He sings backwards, that Avey Tare
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Johnny C on 04 Jun 2007, 20:09
He's a member of Animal Collective, that Avey Tare
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Ben yayayayayayayay on 04 Jun 2007, 20:15
Word-in-mouth putter! And liar, you lie!
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: SeanBateman on 08 Jun 2007, 19:53
i am listening to a bootleg of their show in charlottesville a couple nights ago, and it sounds exactly like what i would expect from a live animal collective set. I would therefore move that they do not suck live.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Mintieman on 17 Jun 2007, 05:22
Saw them towards the start of this year, played a couple of cuts off Feels including a rendition of Grass that was probably the best single song I've seen performed live. They were playing their instruments, except for geologist who was working the effects and soundboard.

Was a fantastic show, the guys all seemed to be enjoying themselves, and the crowd were really getting into it. A couple of girls got up on stage and danced for a bit, and came back down peacefully with no intervention from security or much acknowledgement from the band.

So I don't know. I thought it was amazing. I have no idea where this criticism is coming from, they probably have some pretty dreadful off-nights.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: pilsner on 17 Jun 2007, 08:59
Just a regular old pile-on, never mind, move along.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: ScrambledGregs on 17 Jun 2007, 16:28
It would help if each camp would post a show or some live songs to demonstrate their case, because I've read people saying they were amazing live and people saying they were crap.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Jackie Blue on 17 Jun 2007, 16:33
Well, Gregs, you could always either go to YouTube or go to a show and see for yourself.

I know I certainly don't have the ability to post the show I saw, since, uh, I didn't film it.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: BrittanyMarie on 17 Jun 2007, 19:33
They do play songs from their old albums, but not the singles I don't think. At least, that's what they did when I saw them in Minneapolis sometime last year. It was right before Feels came out, and they ended up playing quite a bit of that new stuff, a lot of Here Comes the Indian but very very few from Sung Tongs. I could see them, but maybe that's because I was close enough to have touched Deakin's foot if I wanted to. (I did look and youtube has a bunch of videos (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=animal+collective+minneapolis+&search=Search) from the show and it is indeed super dark and you can't really see them except for the miner's hats things they were wearing.) They did play quite a bit of just seemingly random noise but that was pretty much just between the songs-it was actually really poppy and lots of people were dancing.

It was just awkward when some dude yelled "Freebird!" and Avey's reply was a very dry "Please don't do that. It's not funny" or something to that effect.

You probably mostly heard a good portion of the songs that they're going to use on their next album.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: BillyxRansom on 18 Jun 2007, 11:53
But I like to watch pompous masturbatory displays of egotism. It will be like watching a car crash.
EXCEPT YOU CAN SEE THE CAR CRASH
this made me lol pretty hard.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Jackie Blue on 18 Jun 2007, 12:23
They did play quite a bit of just seemingly random noise but that was pretty much just between the songs-it was actually really poppy and lots of people were dancing.

The show I saw was ALL random noise.  Literally.  Afterwards I had to think hard to say "I THINK there was a song or two from Feels in there somewhere".

Quote
You probably mostly heard a good portion of the songs that they're going to use on their next album.

If so, their next album is going to be an indulgent, boring mess with no instruments.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: fish across face on 18 Jun 2007, 15:39
Just to check, are you a fan of Animal Collective's first few albums?
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Jackie Blue on 19 Jun 2007, 14:34
They're okay.  The only ones I really like a lot are Sung Tongs and Feels.

If you're saying that the show I saw was similar to their first albums, well, why should I expect that?  That would be like going to see Radiohead now and yelling "CREEEEEEEP!!!!!  PLAY FUCKING CREEP!!!!!" the whole show.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: fish across face on 19 Jun 2007, 15:32
Eh?  Nah, I'm not talking about what you should reasonably expect at all!   Was just thinking they have a history of fairly tuneless improv, wondering if you a) knew that and b) liked that stuff.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: jeph on 19 Jun 2007, 19:04
That would be like going to see Radiohead now and yelling "CREEEEEEEP!!!!!  PLAY FUCKING CREEP!!!!!" the whole show.


I will pay you for the cost of your ticket if you do that at a Radiohead concert and provide proof.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: hihowareyou on 19 Jun 2007, 19:15
That would be like going to see Radiohead now and yelling "CREEEEEEEP!!!!!  PLAY FUCKING CREEP!!!!!" the whole show.


I will pay you for the cost of your ticket if you do that at a Radiohead concert and provide proof.

And I'll go splitsies on your hospital bills after a couple of gangly radiohead elitists pummel you.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Inlander on 19 Jun 2007, 20:19
No, no no no no no. Don't be that guy. Don't be that one dickhead who ruins the show for everyone else.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Jackie Blue on 20 Jun 2007, 00:47
To be fair, "Creep" is better than the three new Radiohead songs I've heard and half of Hail To the Thief.

What if I just yell "Stop Whispering"?  Can I get a half-ticket for that?  'Cause that is seriously one of their best songs.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Inlander on 20 Jun 2007, 01:25
I can remember when Radiohead were worried they were going to be a one-hit wonder because of "Creep".
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Jackie Blue on 20 Jun 2007, 03:03
I can remember when Radiohead actually were a one-hit wonder.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: ScrambledGregs on 23 Jun 2007, 08:48
Kyle Glass from Tenacious D claimed that he went to a Radiohead show and kept yelling for 'Creep', though this was probably at a time when nobody in the U.S. liked or respected Radiohead.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Inlander on 23 Jun 2007, 19:38
I can remember when Radiohead actually were a one-hit wonder.

My understanding of the term "one-hit wonder" is that it requires the band to fade into complete obscurity and be remembered only for one song, a la the Knack and "My Sharona". Radiohead have never done this.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Jackie Blue on 24 Jun 2007, 01:05
Nah, I use the term "one-hit wonder" to refer to bands like Radiohead and the Flaming Lips, too.  Between the release of "She Don't Use Jelly" and the critical success of The Soft Bulletin, the Flaming Lips were considered by the general public to be a one-hit wonder band, despite the fact that Clouds Taste Metallic is arguably their best album.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: BrittanyMarie on 24 Jun 2007, 22:27
I am sufficiently intrigued to see what they're doing now since Sung Tongs and Feels are the only two I really like as well (with bits and pieces off Here Comes the Indian) and them doing something even weirder than usual. HMM

(Also I agree with zerodrone's def of one-hit wonder as well- in the US [because I'm sure the charts are different elsewhere] you are a one-hit wonder if you had one song and one song only to hit the Top 40. I argued this in a different thread as well in that while Blur may or may not be a good band and may or may not have any successful and good albums, they are a one-hit wonder in the us in that Song 2 is the only song of theirs to have charted here. I realize that this argument would mean that Jimi Hendrix and also the Grateful Dead are one-hit wonders.)
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: E. Spaceman on 24 Jun 2007, 23:03
Radiohead did have a number one record in Kid A though
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Johnny C on 24 Jun 2007, 23:25
Also, and I can't believe I'm the first one saying this, fuck sales charts!
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Jackie Blue on 25 Jun 2007, 00:51
Well the thing is, and I know this is hard to believe these days, after "She Don't Use Jelly" and before The Soft Bulletin the Flaming Lips were even considered a one-hit wonder, not-worth-listening-to band by even a lot of indie rock fans.  A lot of my friends either weren't aware that they'd put out five albums before that song or sort of rolled their eyes as if I were talking about, I don't know, Nada Surf or Tripping Diasy (and look how long it took Tim DeLaughter to get anyone to take him seriously).
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Inlander on 25 Jun 2007, 01:36
I still don't think it's possible to describe a band as a "one-hit wonder" until their career is finished (reunions not being counted). I mean, what if they have another hit?!
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: KharBevNor on 25 Jun 2007, 16:23
Nah, I use the term "one-hit wonder" to refer to bands like Radiohead and the Flaming Lips, too.  Between the release of "She Don't Use Jelly" and the critical success of The Soft Bulletin, the Flaming Lips were considered by the general public to be a one-hit wonder band, despite the fact that Clouds Taste Metallic is arguably their best album.


BUT RADIOHEAD AND THE FLMAING LIPS BOTH SUCK ISNAE QUANTIRTES OF WHALE COCK AND THEY IMBOBE THE SEMEN KLIKE A FUCKING DRUG
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: ScrambledGregs on 25 Jun 2007, 17:44
I think we've lost the plot in this thread. The plot has run screaming out the front door and hopped into the first dark van that offered it candy.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: strangeparallel9 on 09 Jul 2007, 13:20
animal collective makes me hard


especially live
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: Thrillho on 09 Jul 2007, 15:00
Nah, I use the term "one-hit wonder" to refer to bands like Radiohead and the Flaming Lips, too.  Between the release of "She Don't Use Jelly" and the critical success of The Soft Bulletin, the Flaming Lips were considered by the general public to be a one-hit wonder band, despite the fact that Clouds Taste Metallic is arguably their best album.


BUT RADIOHEAD AND THE FLMAING LIPS BOTH SUCK ISNAE QUANTIRTES OF WHALE COCK AND THEY IMBOBE THE SEMEN KLIKE A FUCKING DRUG

We need to get you some kind of block for your computer when you're drunk.
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: KharBevNor on 09 Jul 2007, 15:13
You should get a block for your mum first.

UNF
Title: Re: Animal Collective are terrible live.
Post by: ScrambledGregs on 09 Jul 2007, 17:55
Why does this thread keep coming back??