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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Jackie Blue on 14 Jun 2007, 11:33
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I'm more of an effects and amps guy. I revel in creating beautiful noise despite - or even because of - the oldness or crappiness of the guitar (one of my favorite guitars is a 1960s Silvertone that was made for Sears and retailed for, I think, around $50 when it came out; these days you can get one for around $100-$200 though finding the exact model is very difficult).
Here is a shot of me playing it in action:
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/329439338_6781598d11_o.jpg)
Anyway, that's beside the point. The point is pedals. What setups do you use? Right now for live shows I'm running into one of these:
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/3175VNQ0GWL._AA250_.jpg)
...which is then running into one of these...
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/31KUkOwFl-L._AA200_.jpg)
...and from there into this magical baby, which I really only use for delay and looping...
(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/9/1/5/238915.jpg)
...and from there into one of these amps...
(http://www.reidys.com/images/products/4452.jpg)
When I go to the practice space next, I'll take some pictures of the whole setup.
And you?
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(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/Foto11.jpg)
This, is all i need. My Laney takes care of the rest.
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ROFLMAO!
I'm buying my amp today. If I have enough money left over, I'm going to get a distortion pedal as well. By either tonight, or next week, I will be rocking this setup:
(http://www.samash.com/images/items/lg_F0700525X.jpg)
(Minus the bridge humbucker :[ )
Through a:
(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/tn/0/9/9/239099.jpg)
Into a:
(http://www.woodbrass.com/images/woodbrass/FM212DSP+FENDER.JPG)
I want to add a distortion pedal of some sort. Even though that amp's got an effect for that. I'm just lazy, and I like pedals more. I don't need to buy a delay pedal though, until I replace this amp. ^.^ Saving monies is great!
EDIT - Sorry about the huge pictures. I also want to replace the guitar someday with a Koa and Rosewood Tele or a Lite Ash Tele. Mmhmm...Telecasters...
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We have one of those exact same Squires (same color even), it is a solid guitar.
What kind of/level of distortion do you want? I mean, do you want screaming Bigmuff feedback noise or just something to rock a little extra harder?
It's usually best not to use the amp's distortion if it can possible be avoided.
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I've never been one for many effects, actually. I feel I'm the opposite in that I like to get the craziest noises out of my guitars without using pedals, just by tweaking the amp setup and the guitar setup, the tuning, or hitting it with a drumstick or sticking a drumstick in its strings, or even duct taping over the pickups, which actually resulted in a fantastic tone on one of my guitars.
However, I have recently made a foray into effects. I use single-delay on one of my recent tunes.
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Guitars + Drumsticks = super fun.
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Playing a guitar with an empty beercan as a slide produces nice results when coupled with massive delay and looping.
EDIT: I'm not super huge on pedals either (like I said, I only use two of the Line 6's functions) especially compared to our other guitar player who uses 5-6 pedals most shows, but the fact is that when you're playing live it's very convenient to be able to go from "clean" to "loud" by hitting a switch. Obviously it's cool to do crazy things to your guitar but unless you stop between every song to adjust the amp's settings, you're still somewhat limited.
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Right now its just a digitech rp 50, though i do have a marshall guvnor i stick after it to seriously fuzz shit up. Havent used it in a while, though.
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right now I've got a Boss CS-3 Compression Sustainer Pedal and it rocks awesomely. The next one I'm looking to get is a chorus pedal but I'm having a hard time choosing between Boss's Super Chorus and their Chorus Ensemble. Can anyone shed some light on these two products?
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When I first got my electric guitar 7 or 8 years ago, my Dad made me promise that I would learn how to play it first and then get into effects. I never learned how to play the damn thing, but one time my friend let me borrow one of those multi-effects-in-one pedals, and I literally spent two hours straight playing with it. I am a complete whore for sound and the possibility of sound. If I ever had a band or at least some way of recording music, I would create absolutely unlistenable noise bullshit and spacey nonsense.
As it stands, though, I have a black Fender Squire and a small-ish amp with Overdrive built in. I used to fuck around with feedback and playing the strings with different things (I tried out everything my pocket knife had on the thing) but with no way to record the results and no one to subject it to, I eventually got bored.
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You basically just described the band I want to start once my drumset arrives (a Ludwig Accent Combo with Zildjian cymbals; very much a beginner set, as I am a beginner, but good quality considering the price I got it for), but it's on backorder right now from Musiciansfriend.com so I have no idea when it will arrive.
I plan on stealing my friend's guitars and making them SCREAM (both the guitars and the friends). The results will hopefully be non-musically musical.
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I love effects, and I'm not too big on the modeling and DSP amps, but it's cool to have extra sounds to mess around with.
Honestly, I tried that pedal I mentioned earlier through the amp, and it sounded kind of crappy. When I have the amp model on either Metal setting and the Gain all the way up, it's nice and crunchy. The Delay effect is great. My favorite one. The way I have it set up now, is I can switch between the Metal distortion channel and a clean channel with delay with the footswitch that came with it. So it's more like having effect pedals than without the switch. The drawback however. I can't use more than one effect with an amp model at once. :[ This saddens me.
Eventually, I will get a nice tube amp, and bunch of effect pedals. Or I'll get the effect pedals and make both channels clean (with different amp models).
But for now, I will play with the built in sounds and make cool musics.
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Im a reverb whore. and all my amps are old, so they have spring reverb tanks *sexyness*.
But as for pedals, i like the cheap danelectro ones. they cost about $30AU and are fucking brilliant.
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EDIT: I'm not super huge on pedals either (like I said, I only use two of the Line 6's functions) especially compared to our other guitar player who uses 5-6 pedals most shows, but the fact is that when you're playing live it's very convenient to be able to go from "clean" to "loud" by hitting a switch.
Oh yeah, I use the pedal option on my amp, but it's just so that I can switch between its channels and settings. I just meant that I've not bought a pedal specifically.
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Minus the Bear = effects pedals.
(http://photos-235.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v78/216/108/33809235/n33809235_31453138_5042.jpg)
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For a band that uses so many pedals, Minus the Bear sure are boring live.
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Oh guitar nerdyness, how I love you so.
I don't own any of the following yet, but I will pretty damn soon.
(http://www.eastwoodguitars.com/GTRs/airlineTC-DLX/images/gtr_reburst-airlTC-DLX.jpg)
through
(http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/humbucker_1950_40257438)
using
(http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/humbucker_1950_7307716)
(http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/humbucker_1950_1822789)
and
(http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/humbucker_1950_5746488)
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For a band that uses so many pedals, Minus the Bear sure are boring live.
Blasphemy.
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Ballard, I've recently been using that Bigmuff instead of the Superfuzz. Hitting the Lead switch on that Fender tube amp and then cranking that Bigmuff is really working well for me.
I had band practice tonight but forgot to take pictures. We're playing a show in less than a week, maybe I'll post some action shots if our drummer's wife takes any (which she always does).
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I've been trying to decide between an Ibanez TS808 and a Big Muff.
I'm leaning towards the Big Muff all thanks to Dinosaur Jr but open to any suggestions.
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Bigmuff is definitely the way to go if you're going to be doing feedback-drenched leads. If you're going for distortion on chords, though, I'd recommend the Superfuzz I pictured earlier in the thread.
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Minus the Bear = effects pedals.
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l249/gridgm/guitarpedals.jpg)
what are they planning on doing wiht that thing? start a lawn mower?
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i use:
-electro harmonix "holy grail" reverb
-electro harmonix double muff
-behringer digital delay
-and some phaser thingie, i forgot the name,...
through a orange or-120M (+crappy cabinet)
or fender fm-212R, depending on song/band
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Minus the Bear = effects pedals.
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l249/gridgm/guitarpedals.jpg)
what are they planning on doing wiht that thing? start a lawn mower?
Perhaps.
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...and from there into one of these amps...
(http://www.reidys.com/images/products/4452.jpg)
This amp is amazing.
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Yes, it is a fucking great amp. Worth every penny.
But damn it is one heavy bitch to haul in and out of clubs.
Tube amps > all.
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I was wondering when someone would post a ZVex pedal on this topic.
Just to make sure, has everyone at least visited ZVex's website and listened to what their pedals do? Some of them are fucking ridiculous.
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Do I win a prize?
Z.Vex is to all other effects pedal manufacturers what Woodford Reserve is to flat generic-brand cola.
Although generic-brand colas are usually awesome.
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Their loop pedal makes me all sorts of sexually confused. Why is a machine arousing me??
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Their loop pedal makes me all sorts of sexually confused. Why is a machine arousing me??
What, and not the Super Hard-On pedal?
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I want these:
(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/tn/0/4/8/475048.jpg)
Or the DigiTech equivalent.
(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/tn/3/1/1/239311.jpg)
Mmhmm...delay.
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This (http://www.hotguitarist.com/prod_review.html) isn't really a pedal but I want it bad. I tune by ear on most occasions, but it'd be great to have on stage.
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I heart effects pedals. You can definetly go overboard using them, but i dont think you can own to many. Here is my setup.
Boss RC20XL Loop Pedal (this is either at the front or back of my chain depending on which band I am playing in)>Pro Co Rat > Marshall Jackhamer > Boss PS-5 (Pitch shifter whammy thing)> Boss DD-5 Delay with an external tap tempo > Shitty Danelectro Tremlo > Boss RC-3 Reverb thingy > Sovtek Midget 50 > Orange 2x12
In the next month I will be adding another reverb. Other pedals that I am adding, just not yet, Line 6 DL-4 it does neat things, a DOD 440 Clone, Digitech Whammy and an EH Pog or Hog.
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Anyone tried the new boss space echo pedal?
Im tempted to get one, but i think i would just rather a real space echo instead.
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Anyone tried the new boss space echo pedal?
Im tempted to get one, but i think i would just rather a real space echo instead.
They have a space echo? OOOOOoooOOOh! I am on my way to google now.
EDIT: http://www.roland.com/products/en/RE-20/index.html
Yes! I mean a real space echo would be cool, but those things are huge and old. I wouldnt be terrified of this getting fucked up while gigging. I have been waiting for something like this for ages. So sweet.
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Also, back to the onto zerodrones original post, those old japanese made guitars from the 70's are relatively cheap, sound awesome, and are really small and light, (i think mines shorter scale and has a thin neck, also is made of ply)
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wow, i hope this corpse isn't too cold yet!
guitar->zvex fuzz factory->Ernie Ball mono volume pedal->Crowther Hotcake->Analog Man DS-1->Line 6 FM-4->Boss TR-2 Trem->Ross Phaser Distortion->Boss BF-2 Flanger->Boss DD-3 Digital Delay->Line 6 DL-4->amp
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It was very dead, but I love you for reviving it.
Oh thread, how I missed you.
The Fuzz Factory is a pretty bitchin' pedal.
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guitar => ibanez CF7 chorus/flanger => kaoss pad => amp
drawbacks: have to sit down to operate kaoss pad with toe/pretty much non-replicable in live environment (not that that matters)
advantages: supreme novelty/HOURS OF FUN
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guitar => ibanez CF7 chorus/flanger => kaoss pad => amp
drawbacks: have to sit down to operate kaoss pad with toe/pretty much non-replicable in live environment (not that that matters)
advantages: supreme novelty/HOURS OF FUN
attach the kaoss pad to your guitar with some gaffer's tape! :-D