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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Scandanavian War Machine on 14 Jun 2007, 16:57
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I was going to wait until next tuesday when this cd came out to make this thread but i just heard the title track "Icky Thump" for the first time i got way too excited to wait. Is anyone else as stupidly excited for this as me? i've been craving a new White Stripes album for awhile now (The Raconteurs release did help alittle, though) and I am super stoked to pick this up.
I guess i'll "review" it or whatever when i get it.
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Dude, waiting til albums are officially released to review them is so 90s.
I've been pumping the new Maserati for months now, and I think it's just coming out in America this month.
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...so 90s.
i get that alot. i guess i'm not very "hip."
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At least you don't get "so 80s".
Better to be young and unhip than old. :(
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I don't keep up with the White Stripes at all. I just heard that Doorbell song the other day and thought it was good.
Another worthwhile post!!
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The new album leaked last week and is awesome.
That is all.
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I don't understand them :-D :-) :-( :-o :? 8-) :lol: :x :-P :oops: :cry: :evil: :roll: :wink: :| :mrgreen: :laugh: :police: :angel:
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The new album leaked last week and is awesome.
It most certainly is. Jack sure is enjoying the guitar at the moment- some parts it's just insane. Really cool album- very different from anything else they've done.
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Man what is with good rock artists going all poppy? This record bored me to tears, waytoo polished.
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Is it poppy? I don't hear that, songs like my doorbel sound more poppy to me. I agree that it's to polished- they spent 3 weeks in the studio the longest they have on any of
there records. Actually, I'm not quite sure what to make of it yet.
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Man what is with good rock artists going all poppy? This record bored me to tears, waytoo polished.
Yeah pretty much.
On the other hand, it's not like The White Stripes were good musicians in the first place.
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At least you don't get "so 80s".
Dude. The 80s are so in right now.
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Dude, waiting til albums are officially released to review them is so 90s.
Funny you mention that. The Triple J (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_J) breakfast show has been running a competition this week where people send in their 'reviews' of Icky Thump. A few have been posted here (http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/review/album/s1946434.htm).
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Unless there's ever another Raconteurs album, I have all the Jack White I ever need.
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Dude, waiting til albums are officially released to review them is so Raven.
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Did you know she's the chick from the Cosby show?? I had no idea until I looked it up.
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Has Meg White learned how to play the drums yet?
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No, she hasn't. But that's always been the least of the band's problems.
I haven't really cared about a White Stripes album since De-Stijl and this one is no exception. It's better than post-2000 Modest Mouse but that's really not saying a lot, is it?
The title track is one of the most obnoxious things I've heard in my life. I honestly think it's as retarded as "Rollin'".
The album being polished, yeah, maybe, I don't care. Polish is fine, but write some good songs. Jack White is "enjoying" the guitar? I suppose he may be, but I'm not enjoying hearing him dick around.
But, you know, rock on. When the new Interpol drops I'll probably be the only person on here who likes it, so you can get back at me then.
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New interpol when?
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July 10, last I checked.
First single is decent, not as good as "Next Exit" or "Slow Hands" but in the same ballpark as "Evil".
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I don't like The White Stripes at all, but I really like "Icky Thump"
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Icky Thump is a terrible name for an album.
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I wonder if Icky Thump is a reference to Icky Mettle.
If so, well, The White Stripes are no Archers of Loaf.
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apparently, it's a reference to something only British people would understand. but it's "spelled differently" according to Jack White. i have no idea what he's talking about.
i like the name, though. to me, it describes Meg's drumming (i like her drumming: simple/nonexistent though it may be. i dont care what anybody says. it's fine the way it is).
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The New Interpol leaked. Go Download it so I can mock you for liking that boring boring band.
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Someone put it in the Sendspace thread and I will.
I'm very poor at tracking down leaked albums.
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Icky Thump is a terrible name for an album.
I wonder if Icky Thump is a reference to Icky Mettle.
apparently, it's a reference to something only British people would understand.
Jesus, didn't any of you people ever watch the Goodies?!
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No.
I change the station every time they play a track from this album. At first it was just bland, but now it's like it's actively trying to piss me off.
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No.
I change the station every time they play a track from this album. At first it was just bland, but now it's like it's actively trying to piss me off.
How can an album activley try to piss you off?
Oh well, I love The White Stripes, but there's always so many haters..
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The album is stellar. I don't like the single as much as I did Blue Orchid off of GBMS but there are songs off this album that have had me from day 1 (of the leak), namely Little Cream Soda, Rag and Bone, and I'm Slowly Turning Into You. One of the things I like so much about this album is the progression -- it starts off more blues-y and then becomes louder and more garage rock-y.
I'm seeing these guys at MSG from the floor so that's pretty crazy and to be looked forward to, but my buddy has been waiting in line at Irving Plaza since 5:45am this morning to see them there so in the echelons of Stripes fanhood I am but a boy, not yet a man.
Oh and Our Love To Admire is just fine thank-you. It's so sad to see young people so jealous of Carlos D.'s luxurious 'stache they feel compelled to trash the band. And the lyrics are at least 50% less retarded than the lyrics on Antics.
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How can an album activley try to piss you off?
I'm guessing you've not listened to much industrial, noise, or disco.
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He didn't say the album is actively pissing him off. He said it's like the album is actively pissing him off. That's a different thing altogether. Pay attention, people.
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Ok, I heard Rag and Bone this morning. I kept hearing Wolfmother.
It pisses me off because I really, really don't like listening to people jerking off. The four or so minute solo that the title track is just irritates me no end.
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Dude what do you think drum machines are for? I'll give you a hint: drum machines only need one hand. But Meg uses both hands.
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Icky Thump sounds like someone is a knock off artist of Iggy Pop.
I haven't heard the new album. I probably will when my friend gets it, seeing as he's a huge White Stripes fan.
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Dude what do you think drum machines are for? I'll give you a hint: drum machines only need one hand. But Meg uses both hands.
I think you completely missed the point of this band.
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I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT MY DOOR BELL
WHEN YA GUNNA RING IT
WHEN YA GUNNA RING IT
(this post brought to you by too much tequila)
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Dude what do you think drum machines are for? I'll give you a hint: drum machines only need one hand. But Meg uses both hands.
I think you completely missed the point of this band.
I think you've completely missed the dirty joke.
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Dude what do you think drum machines are for? I'll give you a hint: drum machines only need one hand. But Meg uses both hands.
I think you completely missed the point of this band.
I think you've completely missed the dirty joke.
I think I have, and now I'm embarrassed.
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* A traditional phrase By ecky-thump! (an exclamation of surprise) in Lancashire dialect, described in the article Yorkshire dialect
* "Kung Fu Kapers", an episode of the British comedy television series The Goodies involving a secret Lancashire martial art known as "Ecky-Thump", which mostly revolves around hitting unsuspecting people with black puddings
Shite album title. He could at least have spelt it right.
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For those of you who are still clueless (hello most everyone outside the UK) Icky Thump (or, in its original spelling Ecky Thump) is an ancient and noble martial art that originated in Lancashire and which basically involves hitting people with black puddings. Or blood sausages if you prefer
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Cause it's icky and makes a "thump" sound?
Edit: If I didn't like Meg White I could easily make a joke about her right now. But I don't so i won't
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Heh. Dirty jokes make me dryly chuckle like the old man I am at heart.
I haven't heard Icky Thump at all yet. It's coming down my internet pipes as we speak and I'm not sure whether or not to be excited. I'm oddly attached to them as they were kind of my 'gateway' band; hearing their debut and De Stijl was the tipping point after which I really started to care about music. Their version of St. James Infirmary Blues ranks among my favourite songs still, and Do still stirs me up a bit inside. They might not be the most technically proficient band ever (even Jack's guitar) but that was what I like/liked about them. They got their point across in a few quick minutes. No guitar solos, overly elaborate bridges, drum fills, any of that. I still like that quality to their earliest records. As time goes on though......it seems to me that they are losing that urgency, the charm (even) that they once had. I barely listened to Get Behind Me Satan.
The low-fi wasn't necessarily the important part of those records to me, so I don't care if Icky Thump is more polished. I'll just be a little disappointed if they try to substitute instrumental wanking for energy and emotion (which is what a few reviews and comments have led me to fear).
Probably shouldn't post this before actually listening to the album....but I am restless and waiting so here, internet. Here you go.
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Well, i just finished my first listen through of this and it pains me to say it but i'm alittle dissapointed. it's a good album but compared to all the great stuff they released previously it's a little "meh." On the first listen i caught myself thinking "i'll prolly end up skipping this song when i listen to this album" during several different songs (Prickly Thorn, But Sweetly Worn for example). That's not usually a good sign. Same thing happened to me with Get Behind Me Satan and i still skip past those songs 90% of the time. But i'll have a better idea of the whole album after a couple more plays through.
Icky Thump starts out strong and ends strong and has several good, strong tracks in the middle to hold the whole thing up but on the first listen the weaker tracks might overpower the strong ones so i keep going back and forth about how good this album is.
I think the only reason i was dissapointed initially was because of the article in Guitar magazine (or whatever magazine it was) that said it was supposed to be so much more guitar-driven and all this other stuff. But that's the danger of expectation, I guess.
so far my favorites (in the order they appear on the album) are:
Icky Thump
Conquest
Little Cream Soda
I'm Slowly Turning Into You
A Martyr For My Love For You
Effect & Cause
I think Effect & Cause is my favorite track at this point. But I'm still only on my second play listen through.
Favorite songs anyone? What do you guys like?
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The album IS more guitar driven, at least in comparison to Get Behind Me Satan, which was all over the place and not mainly guitar driven.
Anyways, i've been extremley, extremley pleased with Icky Thump. I've heard alot of people say that it's "just like their other albums" but honestly I find it pretty different. There's nothing quite like the pop of "You Don't Know What Love Is(You Just Do as You're Told)" on any other Stripes album, and certainly nothing quite as strange as "Prickly Thorn but Sweetly Worn" or the freak out that is "St. Andrew(The Battle is in the Air)". The cool little weird bits on "Little Cream Soda" are different too, and certainly whatever he's doing to his guitar on the title track isn't quite like anything he's done before.
My favorite tracks though are the ones that hark back to the sound of White Blood Cells like "Bone Broke", and "Rag & Bone". "Catch Hell Blues" reminds me alot of "Death Letter" from De Stigil and is probably my favorite overall track on the album, and "I'm Slowly Tuning Into You" reminds me alot of "There's No Home For You Here" in a good way.
Like I said, I really, really like the new album. It's certainly not the BEST White Stripes album, but it's definitley one of my new favorites of the year. Oh and just as a disclaimier, The White Stripes are in my top 5 favorite bands, so you should probably keep that in mind when thinking about my comments.
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apparently, it's a reference to something only British people would understand.
This excludes me, and everyone else I know.
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JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goodies)
The reference is to Kung Fu Kapers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_Kapers) which centers around the Lancastrian martial art of 'Ecky-Thump'. It largely consists of hitting people with Black Puddings. I suspect the ultimate reference though, is to the fact that this episode is notorious because someone died laughing watching it.
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I saw Jack White on Jools Holland (A live music show here in the UK) a coupla weeks ago... and he said that it was a reference to the original Lancashire/Yorkshire (Not sure!) saying "Ecky Thump" which is an expression of surprise/shock. He spelt it differently so that people who haven't heard the phrase (He said Americans....but I don't wanna incite any violence here!) would know how to pronounce it. Specifically he said "You know, like how Led Zeppelin took out the A so people wouldn't pronounce it Leed."
Honestly Jack, doing a prog-rock synth solo on a highly derivative single is bad enough.... you don't wanna draw comparisons to Zeppelin... you won't come out of it favourably!
(I don't like WS much...)
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now that i've had a day to digest this album and listen to it a bunch i like it more and more each time. even the songs i was skeptical about at first, i now really enjoy (the two bagpipe songs, for instance).
this album is great. it grew on me quickly.
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JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goodies)
The reference is to Kung Fu Kapers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_Kapers) which centers around the Lancastrian martial art of 'Ecky-Thump'. It largely consists of hitting people with Black Puddings. I suspect the ultimate reference though, is to the fact that this episode is notorious because someone died laughing watching it.
For the record, the entire episode has been uploaded to YouTube, split into three parts. Just search for "Goodies" and "Ecky Thump". I didn't post the links with my earlier comment because, to be honest, if you didn't watch the show as a kid then it really hasn't aged very well. Still, nostalgic chuckles to be had!
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I've been listening to it to and from work, he was hyping it up about having a lot more guitar solos, which I'm not really seeing a lot of. The songs are interesting, it's good music to just relax to.
I understand where people are coming from when they say they don't like the white stripes, when I first listened to Elephant I hated it, 3 years later I pick it out of my cd rack and stick it in, then I'm like "holy sh*t this is good stuff"
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ICKY THUM_{? MOER LIEK ICKY FUCK YOU AMIRITE?
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I used to like them and now I don't because it's boring.
They'd be a lot better if there was something to listen to other than the guitar work. Meg is a horrible, horrible drummer. If there was a semblance of rhythm in any of their songs, maybe it'd be more entertaining.
I guess I don't like music I can't bob my head too anymore. Energyless music doesn't do it for me.
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Meg is a horrible, horrible drummer. If there was a semblance of rhythm in any of their songs, maybe it'd be more entertaining.
This is wrong. Meg's drumming makes The White Stripes just as much as Jack's guitar playing. It is meant to be minimalistic.
You're telling me you can't bob your head to Icky Thump (the song)?
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minimalist drumming was cool when the Jesus and Mary Chain did it
mostly because they realized a drum machine did it better a couple albums in
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Meg White has nothing on Georgia Hubley as far as being minimalist. Georgia is being minimalist as a choice and because she has awesome timing. Meg is just... amateurish.
But who cares, that's not why the album sucks. It's all Jack White's fault. I can't believe how bad his lyrics have gotten. And the guitar work is just so... wankish.
Really De-Stijl is the only album of theirs I would even remotely care about owning. In fact it is the only one I've owned. And I sold it after a year or so.
But I admit "You're Pretty Good Looking (For a Girl)" is still a great pop song.
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I'm trying to decide just how pretentious "Well Americans want nothing better to do/Why don't you kick yourself out- you're an immigrant too/Who's using who?/What should we do?/Well you can't be a pimp and a prostitute too." is as a lyric.
Pretty fucking pretentious in my book.
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That lyric is as almost as bad as "If I were dead, would my records sell?" being sung by someone who has made million-selling albums.
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I saw them last night (in Yellowknife), and thoroughly enjoyed everything they played. I know they're "simplistic" to many people but it's entertaining nonetheless.
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All I have to say to people who love the White Stripes is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgpOV-wc9i8
And that's not even nearly their best song. But they don't have a video for "Hitched".
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I'm trying to decide just how pretentious "Well Americans want nothing better to do/Why don't you kick yourself out- you're an immigrant too/Who's using who?/What should we do?/Well you can't be a pimp and a prostitute too." is as a lyric.
Pretty fucking pretentious in my book.
Is your namesake Mr. J. G. Ballard, or are you actually named Ballard?
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The guitar isn't even awesome wanking. Perhaps Jack White should ask Tony Iommi for a guest appearance because that guy knows how to make guitarwank interesting.
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All I have to say to people who love the White Stripes is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgpOV-wc9i8
And that's not even nearly their best song. But they don't have a video for "Hitched".
Got bored about a minute in.
Say what you want about the White Stripes, but when I hear a song of theirs, whether I know it or not, I know it's them. They have a distinct sound, and they have a lot of fun. That's two of my fav things in bands.
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All I have to say to people who love the White Stripes is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgpOV-wc9i8
And that's not even nearly their best song. But they don't have a video for "Hitched".
The Kills are not that awesome and they are hardly a replacement for the Stripes.
The new record is no Elephant or De Stijl but I think it's better than anything the Kills have ever recorded in my book.
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"The Kills" new album has leaked??? Do you have a release date, track list or title?
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Is your namesake Mr. J. G. Ballard, or are you actually named Ballard?
Part J. G. Ballard, part "dude that sounds like a cool screen name"
Man, The Kills sound a lot more like Black Rebel Motorcycle Club than The White Stripes.
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Meg is a horrible, horrible drummer. If there was a semblance of rhythm in any of their songs, maybe it'd be more entertaining.
This is wrong. Meg's drumming makes The White Stripes just as much as Jack's guitar playing. It is meant to be minimalistic.
You're telling me you can't bob your head to Icky Thump (the song)?
I'm going with the comment she just seems amateurish.
And no, I can't bob my head to Icky Thump. The rhythm changes at awkward times, and the drums don't seem to follow when Jack mixes stuff up. The little "blubbatyblittle" sounds that start popping up about halfway in the song are also incredibly awkward, especially if they were really going for a "minimalist" music sound.
I'm still rocking out bigtime to Era Vulgaris as an album.
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my 2 cents -> the title track gets too much airplay here on 99.3 the FOX (CFOX) for one and secondly Steve Vai called he wants his guitar wank back
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I love the new album.
I have been waiting for this, and it hasn't dissapointed me.
And just mentioning Meg's drumming, its different, because its not so polished...I think so anyway.
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I like it. It's not their best but not their worst either.
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What the hell, this thread?
Meg is a horrible, horrible drummer. If there was a semblance of rhythm in any of their songs, maybe it'd be more entertaining.
Have you even got as far as "Rag And Bone" on the new record?
Meg White has nothing on Georgia Hubley as far as being minimalist. Georgia is being minimalist as a choice and because she has awesome timing. Meg is just... amateurish.
But who cares, that's not why the album sucks. It's all Jack White's fault. I can't believe how bad his lyrics have gotten. And the guitar work is just so... wankish.
Really De-Stijl is the only album of theirs I would even remotely care about owning. In fact it is the only one I've owned. And I sold it after a year or so.
But I admit "You're Pretty Good Looking (For a Girl)" is still a great pop song.
I actually can't believe the entirety of this post. White Blood Cells is an awesome album too and though their next two records started to get a bit crowded they aren't bad albums by any means. As far as the amateurish argument goes, some people find it endearing. I find it endearing. It might make you not like it but it certainly doesn't make it objectively bad, dig?
Tony Iommi for a guest appearance because that guy knows how to make guitarwank interesting.
Oh man Iommi doesn't wank he just kicks ass.
The Kills are not that awesome
You have no idea how hard I'm frowning at my computer screen right now.
EDIT: I did some fact-checking. I didn't have liners or anything when I was listening to the new album so I got one song title wrong.
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johnny, every word in that post made me smile. even the "the"s.
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I actually can't believe the entirety of this post. White Blood Cells is an awesome album too and though their next two records started to get a bit crowded they aren't bad albums by any means. As far as the amateurish argument goes, some people find it endearing. I find it endearing. It might make you not like it but it certainly doesn't make it objectively bad, dig?
Endearing like a lame kitten.
Oh man Iommi doesn't wank he just kicks ass.
He does both so hard dude.
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I sat down and really gave No Wow a good listen, and in retrospect I have to apologize for things said in the heat of the moment :-P.
However, who in their right mind would suggest listening to the Kills as a substitute for the Stripes, or vice versa? They are really not that similar.
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I'd call Icky Thump their third best album behind Blood Cells and Elephant.
It's incredibly pretentious, but fortunately, pretention suits them well.
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I haven't listened to much White Stripes in a while. I might pick this up. Depending on how generous I'm feeling.
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I finally got the album yesterday (I put it off for fear of disappointment). Though I was slightly disappointed, it's a strong album with several very well-constructed songs--"Rag and Bone," "Little Cream Soda," and "Conquest" are downright catchy.
It's not De Stijl or White Blood Cells, but I think we may just have to accept that Jack White's golden years are over, just as we accept that Paul McCartney will never write another "Yesterday."
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However, who in their right mind would suggest listening to the Kills as a substitute for the Stripes, or vice versa? They are really not that similar.
See now this is a good point.
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Why is everybody complaining Jack White is pretentious? Of course he's pretentious. So were the Beatles, Bob Dylan, Prince, Patti Smith, Elvis Costello, Neil Young, Jimi Hendrix, and most of the best rock acts of all time. (No, I'm not comparing them. I'm just saying, pretention isn't a negative quality for rock musicians).
Yeah, the lyrics on his new album suck. I don't mind that there aren't consistent rythyms in their songs because usually the guitar is just so good.
Conquest I find particularly hilarious, lyric-wise.
Icky Thump is a good album, but I think WBC and Elephant are among the few best of the decade.
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Pretension is a bad thing in this case because Jack White admits his overbearing homosexuality to the garage rock scene.
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...does that even make any sense?
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Nope.
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Pretentiousness dates back to the Classical age.
Mozart? Beethoven? Hayden? Some of the most conceded musicians of all time!
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Beethoven died, but he never conceded.
Reminds me of a really old, really bad joke.
Guy goes to visit Beethoven's grave and hears the slightest, faintest touch of music. Goes back the next day and it's slightly louder. The next day, and finally he realizes what it is -- it's the Seventh being played backward. So he tracks down the cemetary groundskeeper and says "I discovered the most amazing thing, if you visit Beethoven's grave three days in a row you can hear the Seventh being played backward!" Groundskeeper looks at the guy with a mixture of amusement and contempt. "That's just Beethoven decomposing," he says.
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I'm not going to lie, I laughed quite heartily at those. Corny jokes ftw.
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Anyone else at the MSG show? Phenomenal.