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Fun Stuff => CLIKC => Topic started by: Scytale on 17 Jun 2007, 00:34
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Ok I've finished exams now I've got a load of time\money to burn and am looking for a good online RPG to play. The Last one I played was Ultima Online and that was years ago (from '99-02). I know what a major time vacuum these things can be but I'm pretty prepared to waste my vacation (and possibly beyond). Anyway I'm after some recommendations.
I'm not really interested in World of Warcraft, I've seen people playing it doesn't really look like my thing. I think I'd prefer a Sci-Fi based game rather then fantasy (but if you know a decent fantasy based MMORPG, you can recommend that too).
Two games I've been thinking about are either Anarchy online or Eve online, I think theres some people on these forums who play Eve, does anyone want to share there experiences of either of these with me, what are the good / bad things about them etc.
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Does AO still exist?
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Apparently
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It does. You can play completely for free. You have to pay for the expansions though. I would totally recommend it, but it starts to get boring since quests are literally generated from little booths in the game.
I've heard Face of Mankind is really good. I've never played it though.
I'll think of more, eventually.
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My favorite MMORPG is the QC forums, where I play a level 20 Smartass.
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Guys, Eve online is pretty awesome. I played it for a week and then quit because I was horrifying of how much time it would consume. It's a space based, and you basically can do whatever you want in the game as long as it doesn't involve hacking game code.
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I play eve, but I'm kinda bummed out at it right now. I haven't checked the most recent patch notes but the way the game is headed is a little meh. Maybe after my exams when I get back into it after exams but it's pretty much just softening up right now.
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I just downloaded and signed up for the free 14 day trial of eve, I was kind of bummed they didn't have a Linux client but I downloaded the .exe and it installed and ran fine through WINE, really smooth and no noticeable bugs, which was a pleasant and quite welcome experience.
So far I've sat through the tutorial, which was fucking long but I think I've got the jist of it now, my characters name is Norwood Franskly and I'm a Minimatar (sp?) Engineer type character. I've just been introduced to an agent so I'll probably be doing mission for him for a while.
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Is there conversation in the newbie corp chat? If not, re-roll. The game is kinda shitboring on your own.
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yeah everyone seems pretty friendly in the chats, at the moment I'm mining trying to make some money so I can buy a frigate when I get the skills for it.
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Yeah, EVE is a great game although starting out with Minmatar is going to be a bit tough, given that their ships need more SPs if you want to fly them decently than the rest. But in return, you get to fly the Vagabond eventually without crosstraining.
And find a decent corp fast, the game gets boring real fast if you just fly on your own. A decent corp will make things a lot easier for you. They should provide you with basic ships and equipment, skills and maybe a couple million as well. And most importantly: Help from other, more experienced players.
Also, prepare for lots of drama-faggotry and please, please don't join Band of Brothers or a related corp.
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My favorite MMORPG is the QC forums, where I play a level 20 Smartass.
Oh really? I'm a lvl 35 Forum Junkie!
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City of Heroes (http://coh.com) is a decent alternative to fantasy and medieval stuff.
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Honestly, about the closest thing to an MMO that I tend to play would be Kingdom of Loathing. Free, EXTREMELY low system specs required, and some of the best humor you'll find on the web. Or, you could always MUDD. That's still popular, right?
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Guys, A Tale In the Desert. Seriously. If you haven't already played it, do so. Download the 24 hour (gameplay time) trial. It's the most fun I've had on an MMORPG that involved no combat whatsoever. It's all community and job based and stuff. The amount of things you can do is practically limitless.
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Honestly, about the closest thing to an MMO that I tend to play would be Kingdom of Loathing. Free, EXTREMELY low system specs required, and some of the best humor you'll find on the web. Or, you could always MUDD. That's still popular, right?
While I've not played it myself, I've heard nothing but good things about this one.
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It's amusing. But seriously: A Tale In the Desert.
I tried EVE today. It's fucking complicated. I started a Gallente Industrialist, went through the tutorial and started on my first mission. I like the idea of being able to do whatever I want, but there's just so much to the game that it's hard to figure how to do shit. Travel seems to take forever, with almost nothing to get side tracked (like I do on Morrowind, another game that travel takes notoriously long) by.
I like the character appearance creator thing. I made my chick doing this playful smirk with her head cocked slightly. I chuckled when I made it.
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Calling EVE fucking complicated would be an understatement, I think. I've only been playing for like 2 months and people who have been playing for way over a year tell me they constantly discover and learn new things.
But it becomes manageable rather fast, after about two weeks or so, depending on the corp you're in and how much they help you.
Traveling is boring, yes. If you're in empire space, set an auto-pilot and go watch a movie or something.
Other than that, though, it's an awesome game. And the character creator is tons of fun indeed.
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I'm really enjoying EVE actually. Just finished training Destroyers, I'm pulling in a decent amount of cash pretty easily and I've joined a pretty good corp I think. I've decided I'll keep playing after the trial runs out.
I've found the Agent missions are pretty good I make a lot of money doing those so of them are pretty boring (fly from A to B) type things, but the combat ones net you a decent amount of cash.
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Guys, what's the new patch like? Did it further beat small independent pvp corps into the ground? Where there more silly buff tanking changes? Is the passive tanked Myrmidon still fucking rediculous?
Should I reactivate?
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EVE is the ultimate badassery if you can find a corp to roll with and get involved in a war. Moreso because an established corp probably has people who can loan you a few isk towards that next upgrade, and help you figure out the difference between the seven million different rocket launchers you can fit on your space wagon.
Cruising around with 30 bigger, meaner ships and some fellow newbs looking to pick a fight with any pirates or wardecced enemies unlucky enough to stray through a gate into your system = awesome. Not to mention the nerdy but enthralling politics/meta-game/spies/etc surrounding the big corp fights.
I could never start EVE 'from scratch' mining crappy rocks for shiny pennies in 1.0 space after playing zero-sec for a month, it just seems pointless.
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McT, small independant pvp corps will always play a role. Some join major alliances, others go roaming about in empire wardeccing unsuspecting corpses and beeing all evil (aka, Privateers)
Currently, im flying with the Interstellar Alcohol Coglonomerate, after having spent a yearandahalf in empire. Its a total different game! :D
*note, I already got my firs battleship blown up, yesterday I joined a gang to blow up a carrier (altough i was to late, and it was already poof) and I have gotten some awesome loots from the belt rats.
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Guys, what's the new patch like? Did it further beat small independent pvp corps into the ground? Where there more silly buff tanking changes? Is the passive tanked Myrmidon still fucking rediculous?
Should I reactivate?
I'm not Gallente, but as far as I know, the passive tank hasn't been changed that much (there was a small nerf to shield regen if I recall correctly, but nothing major). I know the Drakes are still pretty ridiculous.
The major changes were to large-scale gang warfare and a huge nerf to Titans (BoB already lost one to RA and Goonfleet, the first one lost in a real fight). They also introduced bombing, though I haven't tried that so I can't really tell you much about it. And CCP sped things up a bit, so there's less lag.
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They also introduced something with heat and thermodynamics I think, though that could be something old I'm just a 7 day old empire space n00b after all :) lowest I've been in is 0.6 :(
I got my Destroyer now a nice Thrasher, I love it, all decked out with mass 200mm autocannons, people are always telling me autocannons suck go artillery and missiles but hell I love charging point blank (using afterburner to get massive top speed) and *bam* unleashing hell on the pirates. Rockets are pretty nice as well... Blowing em away from a distance is so boring...
I also love the way the ecconomy/market works, reminds me a lot of the game Privateer. I have a nice ship done out for mining and I love that if your patient and study the market screens you can make a lot more money by selling where the demand is, sure the travel time sucks but it's worth it when you triple your return for a minimum of effort I've basically taken on the industrial role in the corp, people give me blueprints and I build shit for em, works out pretty well, though I've hit the point now where skills are taking longer and longer to raIse...
Yeah I'm getting pretty addicted to this game :)
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Damn, I really want to play EVE again now.
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Reading the patch notes has made me think 'eh'. I like the way bcs don't have cruiser shield recharge anymore. I like the eanm nerf. I like the pulse laser boost. I'll like heat if it means I can overload the rack of arties on my thrasher and reliably pop ceptors and afs in one volley again (or if my 'cane can now reliably pop cruisers). I'll like the level 5 missions if it draws the pirates away from where I run level threes. Unfortunately now I might have to trade in my drake for a ship I'm half skilled in to run them (the drake was so, so broken) but that's not bad. I've forgotten the rest of the patch notes but. I think I'll reactivate, at very least it'll let me get another two months training in.
Incidently, scrapheap challenge seems to have gone to hell; anyone know what the new good forum is?
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I haven't been able to play much, but I just bought meself a new frigate, and equipped it with a mining laser. I had just accepted a mission when I got kicked off my brother's computer. I don't really know what to do in the game. There's a lot to it, and I'm used to playing simple MMOs, so I'm a little bit overwhelmed by EVE. So you guys got any tips for a noob?
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Uhm, well, first of all, find a corp. Its both needed for amusement, and learning things (either production, pvp, mining, whatever you want). Try a smaller one, and sorta do various things, to figure out what you like most to do.
Also, appearantly, today, we blew up another carrier, and just now a gang was forming up to go shoot at another one! Unfortunately, again, I cant be there! This is the 3rd carrierkilling im missing in 2 days! SCANDALICIOUS!
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I havn't played in forever, although if someone wanted to make a QC corp, I can say that I would be interested.
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A QC corp would probably not be a good idea as I doubt that we have players able to pilot a carrier or anything bigger. I don't think we could manage to create a corp that could survive on its own in 0.0 space. I would simply ask for a QC forum poster to sponsor you.
If you're interested, I'm fairly sure I could sponsor you, for example. I am in pretty chill corp, too. No mandatory ops and we reside in 0.0 space, so there's lots of rats and good missions from level 1 to level 5. And we help out newbies too, with ISK, ships and skillbooks. But it's a fairly small corp.
Verergoca is in IAC, so if you're interested in a bigger corp which also takes part in some alliance warfare, ask him.
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What's the name of the corp you're in? I may or may not join it. Most likely I'll use it as a last resort, if I can't decide on anywhere else.
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A QC corp would probably not be a good idea as I doubt that we have players able to pilot a carrier or anything bigger.
Damn you. I was inches from reactivating but then I realised this and remembered how much I fucking hate capitals.
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So, guys...I was recently accepted into the Tabula Rasa beta. Problem is, I can't fucking play it. Even worse, I have no location to report the bug to without breaking the NDA. Which I just did anyways. So I can't recommend it to you.
If any of the devs happen to read this, my video card (a Chaintech SA 6800) will not play fullscreen Bink Videos. My card will jack up to 999 fps and overheat, artifact, crash, and reboot. Pressing Alt+Enter as soon as the intros load usually fixes this. In this case, it wuuld artifact, black out, come back and play a little more of the intro, repeat several times, until it stopped playing the intro and simply blacked out and back on again every 10 seconds or so. The task manager listed it as still running, but there was no obvious progress, so I killed it, restarted, and uninstalled. Thanks for nearly breaking my computer, NCSoft.
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Heh when I logged in today it had a news report about some corp that had there titan destroyed, that would have been so cool to blow up. I'm still training a lot of my skills and doing agent missions.
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Have you tried emailing them? Emailing someone else in the beta?
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What's the name of the corp you're in? I may or may not join it. Most likely I'll use it as a last resort, if I can't decide on anywhere else.
The Greater Goon (http://greatergoon.net/index.php). We live in Syndicate (yes, I know) and are part of The OSS. It's an SA corp, so if you have an account there, you're all set. If not, you could just reference me and you're good to go as well.
It's sort of like Goonfleet without the drama and the buttsex.
Scytale: Here's a video of the attack. (http://files.filefront.com/TitanKill+621avi/;7851751;;/fileinfo.html) It's pretty much a Powerpoint slideshow of the attack because of lag, but Teamspeak is fucking comedy gold.
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Layman's terms on all that stuff plz?
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Is QUOTSA still pretending not to be playing the territory game up in synd?
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Have you tried emailing them? Emailing someone else in the beta?
I couldn't find contact information on the playtr website, and I don't know anyone else involved in the beta, since they're supposed to be under NDA.
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The Greater Goon (http://greatergoon.net/index.php). We live in Syndicate (yes, I know) and are part of The OSS. It's an SA corp, so if you have an account there, you're all set. If not, you could just reference me and you're good to go as well.
It's sort of like Goonfleet without the drama and the buttsex.
Scytale: Here's a video of the attack. (http://files.filefront.com/TitanKill+621avi/;7851751;;/fileinfo.html) It's pretty much a Powerpoint slideshow of the attack because of lag, but Teamspeak is fucking comedy gold.
Didn't know you guys took over Syndicate after we left, what's the weather like up there these days?
I played in regular Goonfleet for a month or so before I cancelled due to internet issues, but might get back into it soon. Fleet battles are awesome, unless they're so massive that you just lag out for 5 minutes and wake up dead. Although I did once partake in a shuttle operation with 40 other newbs in starter ships with names like LAG WARRIOR and USS LAG to suicidally charge and distract a fleet camping our station while the real ships blew the fuck out of them ;) fear my level 1 mining laser, motherbitches!
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Didn't know you guys took over Syndicate after we left, what's the weather like up there these days?
We had some issues with The OSS, but I think they were sorted out. I bet there's some new shit on the horizon though. There always is. But I've only been a member for a bit more than a month, so I'm not that well-informed. And we didn't really take over Synd as a whole, we mostly hang out in Y9G and now A-Z, I think.
I've never met QUOTSA in Synd, right now we're mostly fighting Free Traders and BRUCE.
Layman's terms on all that stuff plz?
Syndicate is a region with a 0.0 security rating right next to Gallente empire space. and The OSS is simply the name of the alliance our corp is in. SA means SomethingAwful.com, the corp was started for members of the forum, but other people can join too, if they're sponsored.
The drama and buttsex ... well, it just means drama and buttsex, really.
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Sounds pretty cool, do GROON see a lot of PVP action round those parts? I quite want to get back into EVE at some point but I'm not sure I have the attention span for FULL SCALE WAR against BOB, plus I probably won't play long enough to train very big ships so I'm pretty useless in cap ship battles. Might come chill with you guys in Synd if there's pew pew to be had.
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There has been comparatively little pew pew lately, I must say. We had some organizational issues when half a couple of experienced guys left so we were sort of in limbo for a while when it came to ops. But in the last weeks, we've had a couple of ops again and I think the number should rise now.
Plus OSS almost always has a pvp op running, and I suppose they would be happy to see a few Groons participating as well. If you want pew pew, I suppose you can get it. And usually, the biggest ships you see around here are the size of a Domi and large scale fleet battles are rather rare. The biggest op I've participated in was about 40 ships against about 40 ships.
From what I gathered, some are also organizing PvE pew pew in the form of gang missions, but I can't take part in those because the best thing I can fly right now is a fucking Moa.
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I've totally forgotten what the hell a Moa is. I seem to remember that right as my account expired, I could fly the class of ships one bigger than frigates - destroyers or something. Loads of guns on a frigate-scale hull? That shit, anyway.
I want to get into inties and maybe force recon if I have the patience to spend a year levelling up. Small ships with shitloads of pew pew are way cooler than hulking behemoths.
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Honestly, about the closest thing to an MMO that I tend to play would be Kingdom of Loathing. Free, EXTREMELY low system specs required, and some of the best humor you'll find on the web. Or, you could always MUDD. That's still popular, right?
While I've not played it myself, I've heard nothing but good things about this one.
I put a call out on these fine QC forums a while ago trying to gauge interest in a QC clan in KoL, but not enough people responded for me to consider it worth bothering. I wonder if I should necro my old thread.
NS13 has taken up almost my entire day today. Whee!
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Well, I did some missions for the first agent i got, besides the tutorial guy. I put a particle laser on my frigate, as well as an afterburner. I don't know what it's for or when to use it though. I applied to a corp. I also got some blueprints and a bunch of ISK. I'm stuck though on some damn mission in which I have to build this "Perpetual Motion Unit". It's ridiculous.
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I'll reactivate for a QC Corp. 8-)
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Sounds like your getting owned by the dreaded villard wheel :)
Did a misison with my corp last night, must have been about 10 or 15 of us (which is pretty small for a fleet in eve I think) it was so sweet I love the way theres so much tactics in every battle. You really need to listen to the fleet commander so you make sure your targeting whatever he paints for you. You've got to watch for enemy frigates comming in and keep them away from the large ships. Need to make sure your all formed up before warping in, so many subtle things. I love the way each ship has it's own role in the battlefield. The large ships pound the hell out of the capitals, support ships start distributing out the shield chargers, salavagers hang back to grab the wrecks, Destroyers train in on the enemy frigates, seems so organized, when your flying with a fleet it's like your in a crack millitary unit or something.
first week or so I thought combat was just close to range and bring as many guns to bear as you were equiped with but it much more subtle then that, I'm still trying to figure it all out, definately glad I joined the corp, they really give you a leg up. Got 21 hours till I can fly a mining barge, should be raking in the ISK then...
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I am! And that sounds awesome.
Fucking wheel thing...Every time I try the Invention screen, it gives me no installations.
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Goddamnit. I told myself I wouldn't get lost in another MMORPG, but I want frigates all over my boh-dee!
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I got my Jaguar assault ship yesterday. Boo yaa! . . . :mrgreen:
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I'd have to recommend GuildWars, mainly because it's free and easy to pick up and play. Definately the best PC game i've ever played, Plus, you can add me and i can walk you through the early parts of the game and anything you have difficulty with. (if anyone else uses GW you should totally PM me :-P).
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Wait, It's free? Where can I download it? Or do I have to actually buy a copy of the disk?
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You have to buy the actual disk, but there's no monthly fee. That's what he meant by 'free to play'. Better than shelling out 15 dollars a month for WoW.
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I might look into it. My computer is kind of shitty.
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If you're seeking a free MMO then Runescape is a good bet.
I played that for a whole 2 years and don't regret it now
As long as you have some tolerance to idiocy then you'll be absolutly fine!
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I got Guild Wars the other night. My friend gave me the disk and his account and everything. I played for about an hour. I don't see anything terribly wrong thus far.
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Ok I've finished exams now I've got a load of time\money to burn and am looking for a good online RPG to play. The Last one I played was Ultima Online and that was years ago (from '99-02). I know what a major time vacuum these things can be but I'm pretty prepared to waste my vacation (and possibly beyond). Anyway I'm after some recommendations.
I'm not really interested in World of Warcraft, I've seen people playing it doesn't really look like my thing. I think I'd prefer a Sci-Fi based game rather then fantasy (but if you know a decent fantasy based MMORPG, you can recommend that too).
Two games I've been thinking about are either Anarchy online or Eve online, I think theres some people on these forums who play Eve, does anyone want to share there experiences of either of these with me, what are the good / bad things about them etc.
I'm pretty amazed that no one has mentioned world of warcraft yet...
this game is just freaking *FUN*!
There is tons of variety of play- lots of options for race, professions and classes; and the best part is that leveling is a lot easier and more fun than in other games. In fact you can level completely by yourself (if you choose) as any class in the game! I dunno if you are looking to play a MMO you gotta at least *think* about playing WOW :)
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He did think about it. He also said he's not interested in it.
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I was in the WoW beta for a while, got to level 10, decided I wanted nothing to do with it ever again. It really is a boring piece of shit. I'm just hoping Age of Conan turns out to be substantially better (and it is, from what I've heard so far), because if I'm going to finally cave and buy an MMO, I want it to be worth the money I put into it.
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World of Warcraft may get old fast, but it sure is addicting as fuck.
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Note about Guild Wars: you don't actually have to buy a physical disc: you're paying for a license to use it, in the form of a product key. You can download the client (http://guildwars.com/support/downloadclient/), enter a trial key if you have one, or buy one online.
As for SF MMORPGs: I've heard of City of Heroes (http://cityofheroes.com/) and its sequel City of Villains, though I've never tried either.
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Started an Eve account, running around newbie ville, if anyone knows a good corp let me know. In game name is Edgar Loran.
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I've had friend excited about Age of Conan for what feels like years now. I still haven't heard much else about it, but I hope for their sake it turns out. Could be awesome. Same goes for WHO, I hope, anyway.
I played WoW for two years, but my reasoning for MMORPing was chat and having fun more than seeing pretty content and getting uber phat l00tz. So, when people started sucking (as they are wont to do), I quit having fun. I don't see myself prescribing to another MMO anytime soon.
City of Villains/Heroes (Villoes?) was fun, but you get the biggest kick out of it in character creation. That's fun and all, but it's really just a novelty. I'd love EQ and SW:G if Sony's UI's didn't make my brain hurt right here.
Eve, as witnessed throughout the rest of this thread, seemed way to friggin' complicated. I am bitter and jaded! Grawr!
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I'd have to agree with the WoW bashers out there. Unless you plan to invest many long hours 4-5 nights a week to a serious raiding guild there is no point to getting into the game at this point. It's only been about 6 months since the release of the much anticipated "Burning Crusade" expansion pack and Blizzard has already said on the forums that there will only be 1-2 major content patches until the next expansion, if the game survives that long, and no new armor sets. Non-raid dungeons are repetitive and really not much of a challenge and Player vs Player Battlegrounds are rediculously one sided unless you're rolling with a group of well geared friends. I've been playing since pretty much since launch and sadly the game hasn't kept up with the times, not to mention buggy content and bad in game support make the $13-$15 a month fee (after the $20 game and $35 expansion) just not worth it.
P.S. anyone who's already playing, Phelaira lvl 70 Warlock on Alliance side, Eredar server
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Somehow I have my doubts WoW will die anytime soon. You know, with 8 million subscribers or whatever it is now.
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It's not the wrong group to cater for, just the group you're not in. What they should really do is release content for all of the customers if they want to keep everyone happy.
Who would have thunk it that WoW would end up being all for the hardcore types and EVE going more and more for the casual gamer?
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It's the wrong group to cater to from a business standpoint, because I highly doubt the majority of the 8 million players are in 25-mans and above. Most of them are probably people who log in to PvP a little, do some questing, then go to bed at a healthy hour because they aren't obsessed with the game... yet. The old Azeroth needs some updating, but they really couldn't care less.
And I want to be able to be a bird in Azeroth, where I learned the gorramn spell, thanks.
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People are still playing the original Everquest, so I'm pretty sure WoW, which has become more popular than any other MMO in history, will still be open in 2015 at the very least.
And it seems like the next MMOs that everyone is really excited about are Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, and whatever the hell the BioWare MMO ends up being. The thing is, with the breakout success of WoW and the incredibly lucrative nature of MMOs, there are now like 5 million MMOs in development, because everyone wants to capture all the WoW players when the fanbase eventually tapers off.
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Gah, hasn't anyone ever heard of a little game called Darkfall?!
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City of Heroes is pretty good, though having to solo at level 30 is annoying
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I'm currently playing WoW... Suffice to say, it sucks.
I've been playing off and on for a while... I started my rogue back in late '04 early '05(ish). I got to 58 in about 3 months time(didn't play too much, and sadly, these were the golden days of WoWing) and then took a long break until BC was released. Some of my friends who I was playing with a lot before the break came back too, so that was cool... The new content was kinda neat, but it only kept my attention for the better part of a week(I had exams, which didn't help either =0). When I quit back in February I was lv63 with a couple of my closest in-game friends around the same level. So, as winter slowly faded to spring, and spring to summer, I decided I might as well pick up WoW again... It's still the same old shit, only with nobody around.
My biggest WoW pet-peeve is the fucking tedious ass quests. I'd rather go on a slaughter fest instead of doing this bullshit for these people. There's no god-damned short prologue to get you interested in the task that they're making you do, but it's just as well, because each of these quests of epic proportions that you're sent on take about 10minutes max! It's just "Hey man, I lost my book atop the Ogre Mound south of here. Go get it for me and I'll give you a sensual award *wink* *wink*" You're retarded if you decide you'd like to explore the place yourself and find it, because you can do it in half the time if you use thottbot to tell you exactly what to do. It's bullshit, less MMO and more RPG people! These bullshit quests you do to no avail daily just feel like chores to get exp! Quest grinding is like 1000000 times worse than monster grinding! Basically, I'm fighting to even play the game, I'm that bored with it. Isn't it supposed to be vice versa with MMORPGs?
Seriously guys, the first MMORPG that actually has a cool story will be phenomenal. FFXI was pretty awesome, but the grinding was horrendous since parties were mandatory.
Anyway, if anyone plays Server: Drak'thul Name:Elverkonge Faction:Alliance Class: level 66 Rogue
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I've played a few....here are my opinions...
Guild Wars - if you don't want to pay a monthly fee, go with Guild Wars; frequent expansions, Nice graphics....it's a pretty good game. However, it -is- free for a reason, and I don't feel it has the same long term appeal as some of the other subscription games. In all...it's a poor man's lineage. Guild Wars is pretty, but when it comes down to it, I want a little more than ‘pretty’….but that’s no reason to turn away; Guild Wars looks good, seems to release new content and expansions faster than you can buy them, and is well worth a look if you’re not wanting to pay a subscription fee….if you are willing to pay to play, then have a look at an upgrade…
Lineage 2 - For a long time, Lineage 2 was my favorite game....why did I stop playing? Because of the free pvp. Never buy a game that has free pvp....why? Because sooner or later you'll end up in that 'low level, high level' crossover zone, and some high level wazzock will find it funny to go out of his way to one-hit you, laugh, and run off....no reason, just to be a smeghead. Death in Lineage was far too expensive (massive exp loss, and potential drop of gear, up to and including your currently equipped weapon/amour) for this to be justified....PKers killed Lineage for me, and I don't intend to go back. It was a good game in its day though…it’s probably the prettiest MMORPG on the market, with a massive selection on nice looking armor, weapons, raid bosses, and so on….but honestly, the world is pretty small by MMORPG standards, and the odds of you making it through the low levels without being ganked are next to 0. You’ll lose gear, levels, and time far too often, and just be driven to frustration.
City of Heroes/Villains - Fun, but a little dated. Extensive character customization though...far in excess of any other MMORPG on the market (that I know of). Soloing can be a little difficult at times, but it’s still a fun little enterprise. While I don’t believe that CoH/V is the –best- on the market, it still is a very good game, that I don’t really find any fault with it. My only real turn off was the absolute lack of RP that went on. If all you want to do is fight, fight, fight, then CoH/V is worth a look (P.S. City of Villains kicks City of Heroes in the marbles).
Lord of the Rings Online – Bought it, played it, wasn’t impressed. However, it’s far too early to be writing it off. The Game is still young, and there’s still a lot of content to be added…but, thus far, it was the least enjoyable MMORPG I’ve played. I’m keeping my account with it though, just to give it a sporting chance later when there’s some new content added.
World of Warcraft – There are three types of people in the world….those who love WoW, those who hate WoW, and those who have yet to play it. For people who have been introduced to the game, there simply aren’t any neutral stances…I happen to be in the majority camp that believe it is, by far and away, the best MMORPG on the market, and will likely continue to be so. While there are some things I find at fault with WoW, the fact is that the game has provided me with a great deal of fun and enjoyment that far outweighs whatever personal gripes I may have.
The game world is absolutely vast (larger still since the Burning Crusade came out, and with the likely addition of a new continent in the next expansion), there are many playable races with their own distinct character and flavor, many different classes that can be specialized to do very different things (a Holy Paladin and Retribution paladin, although the same class, will fight in a very different manner, for example), two distinct factions with their own storylines, cities and characters, optional pvp (on non-pvp servers) so you won’t be endlessly ganked by high level wazzocks….WoW simply offers more than anything else that I’ve yet encountered.
Obviously, nobody is going to be completely happy with it…but I can honestly say that I have yet to hear an argument from the ‘anti’ camp that I really agreed with, or that I felt was strong enough to make the game either not worthwhile, or not fun to play. WoW is what it is: the market leader, and I believe it is worthy of its reputation as being the best in the field.
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I know it's not an MMO, but for someone who is griping about there being less RPing in MMOs, you can pick up The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, or Oblivion. The former of which is incredibly dated and shoddy looking compared to most RPGs/MMOs today, but you cannot find a richer world than Morrowind. Literally endless things to do. I spent an entire summer playing it, beating the three main quests, as well as two guild quests, and a Great House quest. I think I logged over one hundred hours on it in three weeks time. Strictly for the fact that it is such a wonderful, deep environment, Morrowind is probably one of my favorite games ever, if not my favorite.
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If you are looking for a game that has quest grinding, and the quests are actually interesting and entertaining then LOTRO is the way to go. WoW's quests at times can make me chuckle but for the most part they are boring, tedious and monotonous. I am not saying that the quests in LOTRO won't be monotonous at times, but the main difference is that they have crafted it in such a way that almost every quest seems to have a purpose.
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City of Heroes/Villains ... My only real turn off was the absolute lack of RP that went on.
There are actually certain servers that are known for their RP. I believe the most popular RP server is Virtue.
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Instead of doing an in detail comparison of all the MMOs I've played (and I'll include GW since its not really a MMO but still):
FFXI > Planetside > Guild Wars > Lineage 2 > WoW > Earth & Beyond
I'm currently playing Middle Earth Online trying it out (aka Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar). I don't honestly know where to put it, I'm level 25 so not highest level yet, but I've walked all the way to Rivendell and to the opposite side, as well as made it to a good portion of Angmar on foot at my level alone. To me that bodes bad for the game - that and the fact that they are very very strict to the Tolkien lore which is a nice thing, but means there is absolutely no magic in the game, no fights with Balrogs in end game dungeons, hell even the giant spider you can't fight. They'll be in the game, but you can't fight them. Which makes your character the single most powerful/glorified BOAR killer in the game. That is a bit drabby...
Edit: I forgot to mention I heard Age of Conan was looking good, but the appeal of the game to me isn't sticking so far. I think I need to go read more up on it for it to really grab me. Eve Online definitely tempted(s) me, but I'm worried about the long travel times which were rampant in Earth & Beyond and the fact if you're not in a Corp the game is boring. I don't mind being in a group/linkshell/guild/corp/whatever, but also at times I like playing the game solo.
And the one MMO that has me twitching to play *pun intended* is Huxley - but god knows when the game will be released. Its had more delays than even Middle Earth online did, but the videos of gameplay and the game itself are just gorgeous and tantalizing to me.
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I've been enjoying Vanguard for awhile, but there are still problems with the UI crashing, and there is no high-end raid content. Also, membership is seriously declining. Which is a shame, because Vanguard is an absolutely gorgeous game, with well balanced classes, and a HUGE world to play in.
However, as much fun as Vanguard has been for a casual MMO-er like myself, I'll probably end up switching to Age of Conan when that comes out. It'll give me an excuse to install my copy of Vista Ultimate that has been sitting around since March. It's a Mature-rated MMO, with advertised features like graphic violence, nudity, prostitution, and drug use. Can I get a hell yeah?
http://community.ageofconan.com/
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Well obviously as it's rated M for Mature, it's intended for an adult audience. I'm interested to see how tasteful it will be in regards to the story and world in general, as opposed to just having it there for the sake of having it there. Hopefully the rating will keep out the afterschool kids screaming "OMG FUCK YOU NOOB" (in pre-adolescent soprano) into their headsets. That's one of the reasons I didn't stay with WoW after my trial ran out.
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In regards to the M-rated nature of Conan, the content there has more to do with a desire to stay faithful to the Robert E. Howard source material than any sort of marketing ploy to get people with "hey look, blood and boobs!" I mean sure, it'll get those people too, but I admire the developers for taking such care in staying true to Howard's original creation, while jazzing it up a bit for the kids. This is most definitely not the Conan seen in the movies.
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Well I dropped LoTR:O, the game just wasn't doing it. Perhaps down the line with patches they'll add more interesting stuff, but that game didn't do it. I'm now looking at whats there to look at and do at this point. From what I'm seeing of Conan I'm not too terribly thrilled. I don't mind swords and all that, but this barbarian/medieval/dark age crap style of aesthetics isn't doing it for me (one of the reasons I pulled away from LoTR:O). Before all of you smack me for liking appealing graphics, its just my opinion and why those games won't hold interest. Hell, Guild Wars held me longer than it should have because of the beauty, but that can't keep me going.
Eve looks beautiful but it also looks more time consuming than even FFXI was for me. Not to mention I played a space mmo before (Earth & Beyond, EA blunder) and it has some comparable things that worry me.
It would be nice to find a good MMO with decent ability to party and/or solo for exp, an established healthy economy, PKing and PvP aren't rampant, has good balance (the devs just don't nerf the hell out of stuff), good crafting system, can be played hardcore or casual (time-wise), and has some nice graphics and a good look to it. I guess its just asking for too much.
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I just thought I'd point out that the world of Conan is very different from the world of LotRO, and I am sick as hell of LotR stuff, even things not based directly off the films. Although I can see what you're getting at with a lack of desire for more swords and sorcery. Still worth keeping in mind that the Conan backstory is much darker than LotRO, and the barbarian they are depicting is a much more cerebral fighter than Ahnuld ever was.
If you're looking for something different, it's worth giving Grenado Espada: Sword of the New World a try. It's a typical Korean grindfest, but so far the novelty of controlling 3 characters (think typical MMO+RTS) is keeping me interested. Best part, it's free to play up to level 20, so there's no risk in giving it a test drive. I'll probably get bored of grinding eventually, but for now the gameplay and art style are enough. Linky here: http://www.swordofthenewworld.com/ (http://www.swordofthenewworld.com/)
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If anyone's interested in the idea of a MMO RPG/FPS, check out Tabula Rasa (http://www.playtr.com/index.html) from PlayNC (same company that puts out City of Heroes and Guild Wars, etc)
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The only reason I don't care about Tabula is because of Huxley. That and the last PlayNC MMO (Lineage 2) I played didn't hold well with me although thats just opinion. The other game with the 3 people at one time thing has some nice looking graphics, but I don't think I could get into gameplay that much controlling 3 chars RTS or FFXII gambit style (whichever its closest to).
Someone tell me what MMO would be closest to this:
- Armors that are as stunning as Lineage 2 (Guild Wars weren't bad either)
- Gameplay allowing Solo or Party play (with a nicely setup LFG/LFM system)
- An auction house system (I couldn't believe L2 didn't have an AH, the bazaar crap for the entire system doesn't work too nicely)
- Good content at low, medium, and end game
- Customizability (At the end game everybody doesn't look EXACTLY like each other or necessarily have all the same setup of skills)
- A good crafting system (where every single synth isn't in the negative and the exp gained from each recipe isn't significantly nuked down past a level)
Also one thing about Eve that troubles me is the travel times. I get home from work, grade papers, setup lesson plans, blah blah blah. If it takes me 30-45 minutes or even longer to just travel somewhere all the time. That's not going to let me get very far in the game at all with current time so...
Ones so far I've played:
The Good:
FFXI
Planetside
The Ok:
WoW
Guild Wars
The Meh:
LoTR:O
Lineage 2
Ones I'm curious about:
Age of Conan
Huxley
Eve (Maybe)
Any others I haven't checked out or mentioned?
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Actually, for Eve, as long as you are carebearing, you can travel while doing work!
I typed up most of my reports n such while the autopilot was taking me places! Ofcourse, if you head into low sec/0.0 you reallly dont want to do that, due to scary people wanting to blow up your ship. But still yey!
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so i'm guessing UO shards are basically dead now?
i didn't start playing until summer of 06 but, my shard was a lot of fun and i got addicted quickly. i've been trying to find a shard but i can't find any that have races and good rp that are still active.
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I'm currently playing Ryzom. It's pretty cool, actually. Well, from the little bit I've played. The magic looks pretty!
That is SO not the reason I play it. I play it because, like I said, from what I've seen this is. the game seems to not make you pick a class. You can choose to do absolutely anything class wise (Fight, Magic, Forage, or craft are the things the game allows, hence "anything"). I've heard it's slightly addicting. It actually is.
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I reactivated my old FFXI account from 2 years ago to find all my characters still there and most of my gear. I'm just really bumming along seeing whats changed, not sure if I'm going to even seriously play it. The new city from the ToAU expansion sucks...and the economy has seriously been deflated. What once cost 10 million now cost 300k. Hmm...
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I'm really into 9 Dragons lately.
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I might get everquest 2, I played the trial/demo and I digged being a fae named after Connor Oberst (from Bright Eyes).
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City of Heroes/Villains is a lot of fun if you're in any way into superheroes/comics. Creating endless numbers of superhumans is really fun and the team aspect of it makes you feel important in your group as long as your into the social team experience in MMOs. If you like soloing, this game can get old pretty fast in my opinion. But then again I feel that way about most MMOs.
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Yeah, I wouldn't pay $15 a month for a Massively Multiplayer game, just to play by myself.
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Forget about WoW, Its not fun anymore. Noone roleplays AT ALL on the roleplaying server (you know, the one were you're supposed to roleplay ) That and the game is full of stupid pubie teenagers. Im in one of those groups, but Im not as annoying as all the other ones. I liked WoW when it had a large supply of the older crowd, because believe it or not, the older crowd is the cooler crowd. My guild broke up, so I didnt really have a reason to play the game anymore.
Hopefully Everquest 2 would have the people I'm looking for, but I'm not sure if I should get that seeing how bad Vangaurd Saga Of Heroes was. That game was EXTREMELY hardcore.
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I would so use a Jackson Warrior in place of a battle axe.
(Is it just me or does that game look strikingly similar to WoW? At first glance I thought it was.)
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I must get this game!
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Forget about WoW, Its not fun anymore. Noone roleplays AT ALL on the roleplaying server (you know, the one were you're supposed to roleplay ) That and the game is full of stupid pubie teenagers. Im in one of those groups, but Im not as annoying as all the other ones.
Name: thatwittygeek
Posts: 73 (24.333 per day)
*cough*
Anyway, Dungeon Runners is the game you'll want to play. Screenshot says it all.
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Auravis/Untitled-1.jpg)
it went down though! :'(
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Planeshift is a fun little MMO.
It's still in its pre-alpha stage, and still is absolutely free, but if you want to try your hand at it, go for it.
It's Mac friendly too. :mrgreen:
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everquest! check the thread >.>
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I still play Dark Age of Camelot quite a bit. It's got the best PvP system out of all of them, but it's very dated at this point.
Eve Online is awesome, but I can't play it - addiction sets in and I don't do anything else.
Most of my days are spent clicking away in Kingdom of Loathing. It's hilarious.
I played the original Asheron's Call through the entire beta test right up until 2 years ago. I might consider getting back into it out of sheer nostalgia's sake...
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One of my friends laments the closing down of Asheron's Call servers. It was one of his favorite games ever.
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Kingdom of loathing was a meh game.
Any other good browser based MMOs BESIDES runescape?
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I got Dungeon Runners. If anyone would like to play with me, my character's name is Menona, and I play on World 3 generally.
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I am currently playing WoW...Cause my roomates play and it wastes time.
I'm waiting on the COMPLETELY free "Mythos" to come out of testing...(been waiting forever)....see it at www.mythos.com .
Also waiting on Hellgate: London to drop. Everything I've seen, read, and heared about this game leads me to believe it's gonna kick serious ass.
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Mythos is just Diablo that looks like WoW.
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Hellgate: London looks absolutely bitchin'. I can't wait. I do, however, have a dilemma. My computer sucks too much to play it. Therefore I have to spend an assload of money to upgrade it.
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Said Everquest fanboi. Man, EQ totally ripped off the WoW looks.
Okay Bizzaro Anyways...
Wait, bizzaro anyways= Noways
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It does - it's sort of a Guild Wars/WoW mix, with a lot of sarcasm and taking the piss on WoW in particular
Am I to assume it has a Leeroy Jenkins reference in it then?
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i'm an old Kingdom of Loathing player, though i got bored with it a while back and discovered...
Secret Society Wars. This game is still in alpha testing stages, but is already pretty great. The active playerbase is still relatively small and close, and new players are very much welcomed! it's for ages 18 and over only, and the administrators are shiny and magical and always know if someone is not really 18.
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Forget about WoW, Its not fun anymore. Noone roleplays AT ALL on the roleplaying server (you know, the one were you're supposed to roleplay ) That and the game is full of stupid pubie teenagers. Im in one of those groups, but Im not as annoying as all the other ones.
Name: thatwittygeek
Posts: 73 (24.333 per day)
*cough*
I know of these pubie teens. I got to school with them and they spend their whole time discussing their "wicked awesomeness". they've made me wish i never bought it and i'm thoroughly glad that I did not spend any money on subscription.
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Eternal Lands is great! Free open-source MMORPG. You cannot get slicker or geekier than EL.
www.eternal-lands.com