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Title: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Joseph on 09 Oct 2007, 13:47
Here are a bunch of fantastic albums made by women.  You don't need balls to create something wonderful, or to rock out.

Bikini Kill - Pussy Whipped
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http://www.mediafire.com/?9uzy2xgm4im
Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out
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http://www.mediafire.com/?2oyvhf1dc4m
Bratmobile - Pottymouth
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http://www.mediafire.com/?fqqhbmem1gy
Le Tigre - Le Tigre
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http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?022ouqxc20g
PJ Harvey - Rid Of Me
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http://www.mediafire.com/?fdcnuzras2b
All Girl Summer Fun Band - All Girl Summer Fun Band
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http://www.mediafire.com/?cvwbrdggnnv
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Johnny C on 09 Oct 2007, 14:06
"Ovaries" would have worked better. Since this is Be Realistic About Your Body Image Month for me, any music I release is technically music with breasts.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Joseph on 09 Oct 2007, 14:08
"Breasts" starts with 'b' though, so it was slightly reminiscent of "balls."  That was my logic anyhow.  On reflection, you're probably right.  Too late now.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: imapiratearg on 09 Oct 2007, 14:22
I applaud you.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: jeph on 09 Oct 2007, 14:32
(http://www.questionablecontent.net/musicboob.png)?
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: jeph on 09 Oct 2007, 14:38
imagine a bjork video with that drawing as its basic premise
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 09 Oct 2007, 15:04
On the subject of music with breasts may i suggest the following:

Dresden Dolls
The Sugars
Shocking Blue
Arch Enemy
Amy Winehouse

This is a short list off the top of my head without much thought given to it. I may add more later.
Also, I may upload some of this later but i might not so if someone else is feeling motivated go right ahead.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: *Sights* on 09 Oct 2007, 15:41
What about music lacking both balls AND breasts?
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: imapiratearg on 09 Oct 2007, 16:07
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/Take_This_To_Your_Grave.jpg)
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: KharBevNor on 09 Oct 2007, 16:17
What do you call a riot grrl when you rape her?

WHOREWHOREW WHROE
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Kai on 09 Oct 2007, 16:30
Erase Errata - Nightlife
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Electralane - Rock It To The Moon
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http://www.mediafire.com/?9j2syvjzb2c
Patti Smith - Horses
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http://www.mediafire.com/?459yzgpweri
The Raincoats - Odyshape
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http://www.mediafire.com/?1129mic1yy9
Scissor Girls - We People Space With  Phantoms
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http://www.mediafire.com/?ee5plpjp2vr
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: bryanthelion on 09 Oct 2007, 16:34
Isnt this a parody thread?
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: ThinWhiteDuke09 on 09 Oct 2007, 16:36
Uhh is nobody going to mention Peaches?  Though I imagine she has balls the size of grapefruits too.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Johnny C on 09 Oct 2007, 16:57
What about music lacking both balls AND breasts?

What about Throbbing Gristle?
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Post by: CamusCanDo on 09 Oct 2007, 17:26
Northern State - Can I Keep This Pen?
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While these Long Island girls have rudimentary skills on the mics, Beastie Boys disciples Northern State illustrate that they know how to have fun in the studio on their third CD as they bounce around from genre to genre, intersecting indie rock, electro, and hip-hop with ease. If you could mesh Luscious Jackson's Fever in Fever Out with the Beastie Boys Licensed to Ill this album would be the result. It's a balancing act between alt-rock grooves with sweet harmonies and booty bouncing bass with old-school raps. In similar Beasties fashion, the girls drop simple, intersecting rhymes, and never take themselves too seriously. Their lack of pretension is a huge redeeming factor, making up for the fact that they ultimately don't have much to say. Hesta Prynn, Spero, and Sprout blab repetitively about dancing, cooking, dumb boys, organizing the fridge, and random mundane blither. But it doesn't matter. They're just having fun and it shows. The production is top-notch, especially when Ad-Rock dusts off his SP-12 (which was presumably in storage since the release of the Beastie's instrumental The Mix Up) and lays the hammer down on a beat reminiscent of Biggie's "Hypnotize." When the pendulum swings over to a more musical side, the results are the best songs that Jill Cunniff never wrote: "Better Already" and the brilliantly swooning, acoustic guitar and Rhodes-based "Run Off the Road." During times like these, when it feels fresh and quirky, the results are entertaining and fun, but unfortunately when the songs fail, they can be downright embarrassing, like a Saturday Night Live skit gone sour. That's not all that surprising when a band is based on a gimmick, like, "Hey, wouldn't it be funny of the three of us suburban white girls formed a rap group?" When the whole concept of the band is jokey, in the same sense as the "Lazy Sunday" rap performed by Chris Parnell and Andy Samberg in the aforementioned show, inevitably the comedy routine will get tiresome. The confusing part is that their raps are rarely clever, and at times can be downright lame (like in "Sucka Mofo"), while the songs that they sing on are actually quite good, not unlike the Tom Tom Club or the Blow. It's tempting to recommend that Northern State start making some serious pop songs, but then again, who could ask a group having this much fun to start taking themselves seriously? Their spunk is entertaining, and in the ipod generation where attentions run short, their multiple personalities will keep people guessing. Scatterbrained as Can I Keep This Pen? is, it would have fit perfectly in the catalog of the deceased Grand Royal, but somehow seems appropriate landing in Ipecac's strange and wonderfully eclectic lap.


I downloaded this album an hour ago, just saw this thread now and thought it might fit.

Also, one of my favourite albums of this year:

M.I.A. - Kala
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Kala and Arular are similar in that they are both wildly vigorous and wholly enjoyable albums, generous with blunt-force beats, flurries of percussion, riotous vocals (with largely inconsequential lyrics), and fearless stylistic syntheses that seem to view music from half of the planet's countries as potential source material. But Kala nearly makes Arular seem tame in comparison, magnifying most of its predecessor's qualities as it remains bracingly adventurous. While it certainly sounds like a second M.I.A. album, nothing about it is stagnant. Made in piecemeal fashion while located in several countries, Kala involves a few co-producers: U.K. "dirty house" producer Switch is the primary collaborator, while Baltimore club don Blaqstarr, Diplo, and Timbaland assist M.I.A. on one or a couple tracks each. Further variety is added vocally, not only through M.I.A.'s numerous modes, but also through feature spots from Nigerian MC Afrikan Boy and a crew of young Aborigine rappers. Roughly half the album -- including the opening three-track sequence, which incorporates Jonathan Richman's "Roadrunner," samples from two Tamil-language film soundtracks, squawking chickens, (what sounds like) yelping children, and clustered rhythmic devices that boom, stab, clap, rattle, twitter, and sometimes even prance -- is more intense than anything on Arular. The tracks are so full of chaos and jagged noise that it is disarming to reach the relatively relaxed material, especially the two tracks that resemble actual songs. "Jimmy" is a rather faithful cover, willfully chintzy strings and all, of a flirtatiously lovelorn neo-disco number from the '80s Bollywood film Disco Dancer. "Paper Planes" has a sing-songy float to it, aided by the Clash's "Straight to Hell," though it also appropriates Wreckx-N-Effect's "Rump Shaker" while replacing "zoom-a-zoom-zoom-zoom" and "boom-boom" with sounds from shotguns and cash registers. Like the remainder of the album's best moments, it recalls the late Lizzy Mercier Descloux, another artist who made thrilling music by mixing cultures with respectful irreverence. Perhaps some of Arular's detractors knew M.I.A. was capable of this all along.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Joseph on 09 Oct 2007, 17:58
Isnt this a parody thread?

No.  Women have actually made amazing music.  It's a fact.  No parody.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Caspian on 09 Oct 2007, 18:54
Here are a bunch of fantastic albums made by women.  You don't need balls to create something wonderful, or to rock out.

A good thread, and I was kinda hoping that someone would start this in response to mine. More rocking out music= good times.

Can I recommend Thorr's Hammer for this thread? It's basically really heavy doom with an excellent female vocalist. Unlike, say, Nightwish and Arch Enemy, the vocalist isn't just for gimmick value- Runhild Gammelsaeter (the singer) is quite a beauty, but also has a really devastating death growl and a great singing voice, and it fits the music perfectly.

(http://static.metal-archives.com/images/6/5/0/650_photo.jpg)
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: WriterofAllWrongs on 09 Oct 2007, 18:58
Tegan and Sara?

(http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1691/thcnoa9.png)

Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Joseph on 09 Oct 2007, 19:02
Can I recommend Thorr's Hammer for this thread? It's basically really heavy doom with an excellent female vocalist. Unlike, say, Nightwish and Arch Enemy, the vocalist isn't just for gimmick value- Runhild Gammelsaeter (the singer) is quite a beauty, but also has a really devastating death growl and a great singing voice, and it fits the music perfectly.

All female bands and female solo artists would be preferable, but then, the the PJ Harvey album I uploaded is when it was a trio, not Polly Jean solo, and the other members of the band were male, so go ahead.  But generally, let's go for all woman.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: analogthought on 09 Oct 2007, 19:30
The Delta 5, Liliput, and The Red Aunts were all pretty great.
If I weren't at work, I'd post up some links... maybe when I get home. When I was an angsty teenager I liked L7, the Lunachicks and Babes in Toyland. Along with Bikini Kill and Huggy Bear. There seems to be a void in this genre as of late. What's up with that.

Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: SusurrusIgnoramus on 09 Oct 2007, 19:31
What about music lacking both balls AND breasts?

what about music WITH balls and breasts?
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Hat on 09 Oct 2007, 20:42
Why does nobody ever think of Buck Angel when they make these horrible joke threads.
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Post by: pat101 on 09 Oct 2007, 20:59
this thread doesn't contain nearly enough sleater-kinney, and because i'm going to bed I can't do anything about it
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: michaelicious on 09 Oct 2007, 21:00
How about some Mirah?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jesusvsthepolice/advisorycommittee.jpg)
Advisory Committee (http://www.mediafire.com/?1eezczmy3ux)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jesusvsthepolice/cmonmiracle.jpg)
C'mon Miracle (http://www.mediafire.com/?d326exe9ks6)
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Dimmukane on 09 Oct 2007, 21:13
Why does nobody ever think of Buck Angel when they make these horrible joke threads.

I wouldn't expect many of the forumites to actually know who that is. 
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: bryanthelion on 10 Oct 2007, 05:37
Isnt this a parody of the "music with balls" thread? -thats what I meant-


How about some Jenny Lewis? (not rilo kiley, they've grown a little... squishy with their new release)
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Joseph on 10 Oct 2007, 07:01
Enough silliness about this being a joke thread.  The Slits aren't a joke.

The Slits - Cut
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Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: carrotosaurus on 10 Oct 2007, 07:14
Isnt this a parody of the "music with balls" thread?

This is a serious thread. The "music with balls" thread was a parody of this thread.


Also, get out there and listen to The Shaggs' "My Pal Foot-Foot".
lo-fi + no musical skills whatsoever = delicious.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: a pack of wolves on 10 Oct 2007, 08:18
All female bands and female solo artists would be preferable, but then, the the PJ Harvey album I uploaded is when it was a trio, not Polly Jean solo, and the other members of the band were male, so go ahead.  But generally, let's go for all woman.

I've always disliked that position, it seems to devalue the work of women who happen to perform in bands with men. It also generally unfairly goes against women who play in bands that have a male vocalist. For example, Thorr's Hammer will get mentioned but Black Flag overlooked. Just look at any ladyfest line-up and you can see the way this excludes a lot of damn good artists just because they choose not to sing and to not care about the gender of the people they're working with.

After writing that I really wish I had some Fuck On The Beach I could upload but I can't rip from vinyl. This thread's not nearly rocking enough (Tegan And Sara? I quite like them myself, but really, Tegan And Sara?), it needs more fast.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: WriterofAllWrongs on 10 Oct 2007, 08:34
Tegan and Sara have breasts.  They make music.  That music tends to reflect the amount of breast they have.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Johnny C on 10 Oct 2007, 08:50
Guys, we have to include woman-fronted bands with men in them. Precedent's been set:

Patti Smith - Horses
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Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: a pack of wolves on 10 Oct 2007, 09:03
Tegan and Sara have breasts.  They make music.  That music tends to reflect the amount of breast they have.

Good point. I guess I was kind of thinking of this thread as an equivalent to the music with balls thread, and therefore about rocking.

I'm going to try and find some time to rip and upload some Kill The Man Who Questions, Jawbox, Robot Has Werewolf Hand, Melt-Banana and Origami later.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: oblivion on 10 Oct 2007, 09:18
What do you call a riot grrl when you rape her?

Really, is that the kind of board this is - no one calls this kind of shit out?  Or are we all quietly ignoring it hoping it goes away?  Is it too P.C. to be offended by rape 'humor?' :?

To get back on-topic, I'll echo the Dresden Dolls/Amanda Palmer vote. Search YouTube for "Dresden Dolls War Pigs."
 
Not so much a hard rocker, I've always admired Michelle Shocked.  She ballsy at times.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: a pack of wolves on 10 Oct 2007, 09:26
Personally I felt tommy called him on it with the Mia Zapata comment and that there wasn't anything else to be added.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Johnny C on 10 Oct 2007, 09:27
Besides, Khar is metal. That's his shtick.

It's kind of like Marylin Manson!
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: analogthought on 10 Oct 2007, 09:59
Dude, that riot grrrl joke was a joke dude. Dude, it was funny, dude. Dude if we were all 13 we'd all be laughing at it, dude... so dude, lighten up, dude. okay, dude?

and for those over the age of 13...
I uploaded Lydia Lunch's first solo album, released in 1979.
Teenage Jesus is GREAT... and this is weirdo, eclectic-ness... but atomic bongos is a pretty fun song. I still prefer teenage jesus though...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/analogthought/7251793509a016ff6ded1110_AA240_L.jpg)
<a href='http://www.sendspace.com/file/cvqljs'>http://www.sendspace.com/file/cvqljs[/url]

Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: michaelicious on 10 Oct 2007, 10:12
Also, get out there and listen to The Shaggs' "My Pal Foot-Foot".
lo-fi + no musical skills whatsoever = delicious.

Hell, listen to the whole album!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jesusvsthepolice/shaggs.jpg)
The Shaggs - Philosophy of the World (http://www.mediafire.com/?6xj0gfj2m5m)

And in honour of bands with both dudes and ladies:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/jesusvsthepolice/b-52s.jpg)
The B-52's - Self-titled (http://www.mediafire.com/?8bktjtuyhcd)
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: analogthought on 10 Oct 2007, 11:13
for the longest time, i was convinced the shaggs were 3 japanese girls.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: camelpimp on 10 Oct 2007, 12:00
I much prefer this thread. Thank you.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: supertankguy on 10 Oct 2007, 13:21
Both of these threads have made me wonder if I'm the only one listening to music with ears.  My next thought was Peaches - Fuck the Pain Away, and now, I'm going to listen to that song.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: alect0 on 10 Oct 2007, 13:42
I heard about Robots in Disguise after I watched The Mighty Boosh. You should give them a try.
(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drg300/g389/g38923odbe4.jpg)
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Johnny C on 10 Oct 2007, 14:04
for the longest time, i was convinced the shaggs were 3 japanese girls.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9a/712.jpg)?
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Mnementh on 10 Oct 2007, 17:22
Why does nobody ever think of Buck Angel when they make these horrible joke threads.

I wouldn't expect many of the forumites to actually know who that is. 

Besides, he still has a vag.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Hat on 10 Oct 2007, 18:31
Thats my point! Where's the thread with music for Buck Angel?

Nowhere.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: LordNagash on 10 Oct 2007, 18:47

Can I recommend Thorr's Hammer for this thread? It's basically really heavy doom with an excellent female vocalist. Unlike, say, Nightwish and Arch Enemy, the vocalist isn't just for gimmick value- Runhild Gammelsaeter (the singer) is quite a beauty, but also has a really devastating death growl and a great singing voice, and it fits the music perfectly.

Why do you say they are gimmicks?
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: analogthought on 10 Oct 2007, 20:14
Ha... 712 is and always will be my favorite shonen knife album.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Caspian on 10 Oct 2007, 20:36

Can I recommend Thorr's Hammer for this thread? It's basically really heavy doom with an excellent female vocalist. Unlike, say, Nightwish and Arch Enemy, the vocalist isn't just for gimmick value- Runhild Gammelsaeter (the singer) is quite a beauty, but also has a really devastating death growl and a great singing voice, and it fits the music perfectly.

Why do you say they are gimmicks?

Because the singer for Arch Enemy's voice isn't that good, and if she wasn't a) hot and b) female then no one would listen to that band. The old singer for Nightwish (haven't heard the new singer yet, heard it's better) also had a a terrible voice, but again, people were willing to listen to their brand of cliched power metal because the singer was hot and female. Would anyone have paid attention to either of these bands if it wasn't for the singers? I doubt it.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Caspian on 10 Oct 2007, 21:02
Hey, there's this rather awesome band called Gallhammer that totally deserves a place in this thread. 3 japanese chicks doing some really awesome, really heavy black/doom/crust stuff. A great band, and the sheer rocking out-ness of this band should be enough to counter the Tegan and Sara post a bit back. This album I'm uploading is a bit of a compilation, some demos, some rehearsals etc, may be best only for fans but it's good stuff anyway.

Link (not my upload, sorry if there's a virus or something!) : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0RXSMGJO
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: KharBevNor on 10 Oct 2007, 22:37
It wasn't rape humour*. I was drunk, and wanted to see people over react, since I was reasonably sure I'd picked the most offensive thing to say for someone who agrees with riot grrrls gender politics. I was half expecting to derail the thread. You're not exactly going to be able to 'call me on it', especially as that was a bottle of vodka and some port doing the talking.

@ Caspian: Your assertion that no one would listen to Arch Enemy without Angela Gossow and that she is a 'gimmick' sucks for two main reasons. One, Arch Enemy's music is written by, and pretty much built around Michael Amott's guitar work. It's his band. The second is that Angela is a really good DM vocalist: not only does she manage to avoid the standard gothenburg cookie monster sound (possibly making her the best vocalist in MDM besides Dan Swanö), and she manages to imbue her vocals on her best tracks with a really sick, diseased, organic edge that vies with the best.  A third subsequent reason is that she's a much better vocalist than Johan Livas, as anyone but the most blinded chauvanist (Unfortunately this describes a fair chunk of the metal scene) would agree. The only thing that elevates Burning Bridges over the newer stuff is that the guitar work is better (or rather, more audacious), as Amott was in that inevitable 'three duelling solos a song' phase that happens whenever a guitarist gets a band to himself. That said, you could probably dismiss her as a gimmick (Although that's insanely sexist: male singers are never gimmicks), along the lines of the 'all MDM bands must have gimmicks' phase of the early noughties, were there were so many identical MDM bands that you'd only bother listening to a new one if they had a violinist, or wore makeup, or were from Japan.

With the Nightwish thing, I'm not even sure what you mean by a 'gimmick'. Yeah, Tarja was more hired than anything else, but then again, Nightwish's music was concieved with the Beauty and the Beast aesthetic in mind (in fact, Nightwish's music is based around Tarja's voice to a greater extent than most people realise, they were originally going to be a folk band.) Consider the band was formed a year after Theatre of Tragedy released their self-titled. I could maybe agree with you on the count that no one would listen to Nightwish without Tarja (Tuomas cannot sing for shit, though in a way that makes his contributions kind of endearing) though in what universe you consider Tarja's singing to be shit I cannot imagine. Honestly, thats about the only sensible criticism that CAN'T be labelled at Nightwish: their lyrics are half-baked scanglish, their songwriting is pedestrian, their instrumental work generally unremarkable, their album covers, videos etc. are mired in horrendous cliches and their whole formula had been done much, much better by other bands before they ever existed (Lacrimosa and ToT being the examples that instantly spring to mind). Not to mention the clones. Yet to attack Nightwish on the basis that Tarja can't sing seems to me basically insane: as far as I'm concerned her voice is pretty much the only reason you WOULD listen to Nightwish (or if, like me, you have to beat down a boner when a song directly references David Eddings then starts dropping Tolkien samples).

I'm rather confused about what, if anything to suggest. I assumed that this thread would basically just be for posting, for want of a better descriptor, overtly feminist music, but some recommendations appear not to cleave to this (unless I misunderstand the intention behind or content of the suggestions, a distinct possibility). Also, from a purely biological standpoint, this thread should probably be called 'So, you want to listen to music with ovaries?' Since it's not, I feel no badness about recommending every Sopor Aeternus & The Ensemble of Shadows album from 'The Inexperienced Spiral Traveller' up. Anna-Varney is not technically a girl, but she really wants to be! Numerous half-shrieked German darkwave songs about cutting off your genitals are for yay (actually, they're the reason I'm not recommending any earlier albums). Sopor Aeternus is absolutely brilliant music, and though the vocals are...idiosyncratic, to say the least, people here seem to fawn over bands like Deerhoof, so there shouldn't be much of a problem. I mention Sopor Aeternus basically because I was scrolling through my last.fm profile and, though I listen to plenty of female artists, or bands with female members, I couldn't really see any that discussed femininity as a core image, except maybe Inkubus Sukkubus, and their discussion of sexuality is really more to do with fucking vampires than fighting male oppression. Plus I feel kinda awkward recommending Inkubus Sukkubus because I can't actually personally work out why I love them so much myself, and fear they may be some sort of trap. Before I started typing loads of stuff (and maybe if I hadn't had that drunken post earlier) I might have tried some subversion, on the idea that people seem to be having no trouble posting bands with only one female member (whilst I'm sure not a single band with a girl in got mentioned in the music with balls thread) by upping and reccing Bolt Throwers Realm of Chaos:

(http://www.xs4all.nl/~kmachine/btfaq/pics/realm.jpg)

This based on the fact that, despite being very aggressive and masculine, not to mention basically being about Warhammer 40k, Bolt Thrower do have one of the longest serving permanent female members in any metal band, and also one of the most invisible: Jo, the bassist. The point being, that the result is about as essentially feminine as most female-fronted metal.



*Basically, to qualify as rape humour, I would have to have made it funny. To make it funny, I would probably have to have not been drunk, in which case I probably wouldn't have been such a git. Vicious circle!
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Joseph on 10 Oct 2007, 23:08
This thread definitely is meant to be about more visible female musicians, and preferably musical content which reflects them.  Johnny beat you to the ovaries comment, Khar, and, in retrospect, I agree.  I just chose breasts because it started with a 'b' and bore more similarity to "balls" in that way.  And keeping the thread to more overtly feminist music was more in line with the threads original intention, but then, I did throw up All Girl Summer Fun Band as well.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Storm Rider on 10 Oct 2007, 23:09
I was actually going to suggest Bolt Thrower a little while ago when somebody suggested that submissions should have an emphasis on rocking out, as per the original thread.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Joseph on 10 Oct 2007, 23:10
The original thread was plagued with problems.  Let's try and save this one.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Caspian on 10 Oct 2007, 23:10
I could maybe agree with you on the count that no one would listen to Nightwish without Tarja (Tuomas cannot sing for shit, though in a way that makes his contributions kind of endearing) though in what universe you consider Tarja's singing to be shit I cannot imagine. Honestly, thats about the only sensible criticism that CAN'T be labelled at Nightwish: their lyrics are half-baked scanglish, their songwriting is pedestrian, their instrumental work generally unremarkable, their album covers, videos etc. are mired in horrendous cliches and their whole formula had been done much, much better by other bands before they ever existed (Lacrimosa and ToT being the examples that instantly spring to mind). Not to mention the clones. Yet to attack Nightwish on the basis that Tarja can't sing seems to me basically insane: as far as I'm concerned her voice is pretty much the only reason you WOULD listen to Nightwish (or if, like me, you have to beat down a boner when a song directly references David Eddings then starts dropping Tolkien samples).

Admittedly, I've only heard two Nightwish albums. Tarja didn't sound all that bad in Oceanborn, admittedly, but she sounded really, really terrible in Century Child. I haven't heard Oceanborn for ages, but from what I remember in Century Child she had basically no range- she's singing in the same key the whole time, has basically no emotion in her voice whatsoever, doesn't really have a good deal of pitch control (perhaps I was being picky but she definitely goes out of tune on the longer notes), and she can't do anything at all but wail all operatically in the same key and same pitches, song after song. She has absolutely no versatility (as the abomination that's Slaying the Dreamer shows). I'll leave it to a random Metal-Archives review to express my feelings:

Quote
And it's not just that she sounds so shrill that when you listen to it, all dogs within a kilometer's radius start to wail and all glasses nearby begin to collapse, it's that she is so damned untalented too. I mean, her voice sounds so static and amelodic, I've heard more complexly arranged melodic vocal performances from Cannibal Corpse. What is this? A soprano trying to imitate Tom Araya? So, it's not just awful, it's bad too. But hey, to give Tarja a little credit, the awful far outweighs the bad. She manages to make her voice so painfully unlistenable that most of the time you don't even quite notice how untalented she is. Good job there, got to give her some credit.

Also: With Arch Enemy, I'd agree with you that it's Amott's band, and Gossow is nowhere near as annoying as Tarja. To me, I just don't think her death metal vocals are all that great/interesting, better then perhaps In Flames' vocalist perhaps but that's about it (but then again, my 10 year old bro can probably do better growls then Anders). Perhaps I'm being sexist, but I bet Amott already knew a couple of growlers prior to finding Gossow (I don't know how they met up, I could be totally wrong about this) so I just get the feeling that he might've heard her and went "Well, she's not terrible, might as well do it to be unique". But having said that, I don't know how Gossow got in the band, so my ignorance may well show me up.

Anyway, one band that needs a mention is THe Gathering. Anneke was a great vocalist and it's a real shame she quit. I might upload Nightime Birds and Mandylion a bit later.


Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Storm Rider on 10 Oct 2007, 23:13
Speaking of Anneke, she was on an Ayreon album, and Ayreon albums in general have pretty fantastic female performances. The Human Equation is the most obvious one, but that's because it's basically totally amazing and I have no idea how Arjen will ever manage to top it.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: KharBevNor on 10 Oct 2007, 23:18
That's kinda interesting actually Caspian, because the exact how of how Angela got into Arch Enemy is usually used as one of the criteria for dismissing her. She's Amott's girlfriend/partner.

Also, I wouldn't really want Metal Archives to be expressing my opinions on classically trained vocalists. Ever. Anyone complaining about pitching probably shouldn't be listening to metal anyway: I'd like to see anyone get away with making the same kind of criticisms against, say, King Diamond.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Caspian on 10 Oct 2007, 23:30
Also, I wouldn't really want Metal Archives to be expressing my opinions on classically trained vocalists. Ever. Anyone complaining about pitching probably shouldn't be listening to metal anyway: I'd like to see anyone get away with making the same kind of criticisms against, say, King Diamond.

Oh, I'm not saying that I'm using Metal Archives to prove my point, I just like the way that guy expresses his point. Having said that, i'm a big fan of MA myself, I'm in the top 10 reviewers there.  :police: I think the reviews are of a pretty high quality, a bit elitist perhaps but that doesn't really bother me, and the standards are generally quite high (at least, I can't think of anywhere else with better metal reviews on the net).

The difference between Tarja and Diamond is that diamond doesn't rely *totally* on his falsetto, he's a lot more versatile then Tarja, so I guess that counts for something? ..And I never said I liked his vocals anyway  :-D
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: glwtta on 11 Oct 2007, 01:00
Someone, somewhere is going to masturbate to that drawing.

I just know it.

Done and done.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Inlander on 11 Oct 2007, 01:03
Eww. That was neither a challenge nor a suggestion, nor is it something that you should feel obliged to tell anybody else about, ever.

We're going to have to hose down the whole forum now, everyone.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: KharBevNor on 11 Oct 2007, 15:09
diamond doesn't rely *totally* on his falsetto

...lol.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: The extra letter on 16 Oct 2007, 08:10
I came into this thread to recommend Lydia Lunch's Queen of Siam, but I was beaten to it. While I kinda miss being all smug and recommendy, it's good to see someone else digs her stuff.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: öde on 16 Oct 2007, 11:40
especially as that was a bottle of vodka and some port doing the talking.

That is a shit excuse and if anyone ever uses it again I will get very drunk and shit on them.

Standby for every Sleater Kinney album ever (except Dig Me Out, since it's at the start of the thread and The Woods because it is shit except for Jumpers).
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Dinky on 16 Oct 2007, 12:00
Lunachicks
L7
CSS
New Young Pony Club
Janis Joplin
The Distillers
Tori Amos

Just a few from the top of my head
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Johnny C on 16 Oct 2007, 12:05
The Woods because it is shit except for Jumpers

That is a bullshit goddamn lie.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: KharBevNor on 16 Oct 2007, 12:57
That is a shit excuse and if anyone ever uses it again I will get very drunk and shit on them.

Macho? In the breasts thread?

For shame sir. For shame.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: mfpole on 16 Oct 2007, 18:15
ESG!

EDIT: yaaaaay http://www.mediafire.com/?1q2bttfwh0t

EDIT SQUARED: I uploaded The Woods to the Sendspace Thread a while back. That guy is being weird, this cd is awesome. http://www.mediafire.com/?2zutlfuw0vu
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: camelpimp on 16 Oct 2007, 18:45
The Woods because it is shit except for Jumpers

That is a bullshit goddamn lie.

Seconded. YOU LOSE AT THE INTERNETS.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: WriterofAllWrongs on 16 Oct 2007, 22:18
Eww, someone suggested Tori Amos.  I gotta go wash my hands now.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Clobbersaurus on 17 Oct 2007, 01:17
Joni Mitchell
-Blue
(http://www.cbc.ca/arts/images/arts_joni-blue2.jpg)
-hissing of summer lawns
-for the roses

The Barry Sisters
-Their Greatest Yiddish hits (you cannot not like this)

Skunk Anansie
- Paranoid and Sunburnt

Mu
-Afro Finger and Gel
-Manchester's Revenge
(http://assets3.pitchforkmedia.com/images/image/14382.afro-finger-and-gel.gif?)

Roisin Murphy
-Ruby Blue
(http://www.popboks.com/img/albumi/roisinmurphy.jpg)
got this a few weeks ago, and you can't go wrong with roisin and herbert in the same room.

Santogold
(http://fiftyonefiftyone.com/uploaded_images/Santogold-708009.jpg)

Bjork
(everything, duh).
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4416/bjorkishgiacobbe03bi5.jpg)
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: bryanthelion on 17 Oct 2007, 03:46
Yeah, Bjork probably is one of the best musicians of this generation. She mixes and mingles with so many different styles (well so many out there styles).


Lolz, how about Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohanzorz
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: camelpimp on 18 Oct 2007, 19:25
Quote from: that article
It is now very hard for me to thing of breast implants as just decorative. If a woman has something implanted permanently, it might as well do something useful."

I lol'ed. Oh I lol'ed.

It's about damn time my tits did something useful for me!
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Clobbersaurus on 19 Oct 2007, 01:27
You could argue she is one of the best song-writers but I think as a musician she wouldn't rank in the top million or so.

She works with very good people on every album but I do not think her actual musical talents are particularly amazing. I am not sure if she can actually play any instruments though I am convinced she dabbles. If you look at the credits for her albums, every album uses a host of session musicians. Not a criticism of her, just an important distinction.
she is most definetly a musician (i'll go ahead and mention that she was a drummer, can play a few wind instruments--including the flute, and plays piano) as well as a composer (understands the language of music to the nth degree--and isn't that what makes a musician a musician anyway?).
see seeks out "virtuosos" to play her work and allows them to add whatever they see fit.
it's her work, and its part of her philosophy to collaborate, and not try and control every aspect of her work, but to nurture it. It's a true mother-child relationship to working that is, needless to say, quite feminine. (i believe being more of a control freak is rather male).

i also dont see the distinction between using a piano or your vocal chords as an instrument. her voice has always been her primary instrument.

now i'm just gonna ride another wave.. just cuz :)

what i deem as feminine is dependent on perspective, not exclusively riot grrl or any one of the dozens of feminist philosophies out there. women are still in the process of defining what is feminine, and perhaps in its lack of having a clear, distinctive definition is probably what makes it 'feminine', since it's rather male to slap categories and rigid guidelines to everything in the name of consistancy (and that's all well and good). i'm personally fascinated by this hunt to find a pure, feminine perspective, and i feel that i have only been able to find it with little doubt in bjork herself and in bjork's work (not claiming that she's the ONLY personification out there of this notion, just happy to note that she's certainly one of the few that predominantly sticks out).




@KharBevNor: there's no excuse for drunken douche-baggery. you must submit to the laws of weaboo.
*paddle*

When I saw this thread title, I instantly thought of this. (http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1570835.html)
and omg that is the most awesomest thing ever hahahahahaha

Apparently people are getting fed up with double-posts. Remember kids, the edit button is your friend! - Inlander.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: öde on 19 Oct 2007, 09:42
Standby for every Sleater Kinney album ever (except Dig Me Out, since it's at the start of the thread and The Woods because it is shit except for Jumpers).

Sendspace thread, go go go!
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: go make stuff on 24 Oct 2007, 06:18
Man, I love how this thread started - why is it degenerating so fast?!?
I wanna put some amazing stuff up here by the end of the week.
Dark Flame- do you have Bratmobile's The Real Janelle? Been looking for it everywhere....
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Renalia on 25 Oct 2007, 06:02
Imogen Heap - Speak For Yourself
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/52/Speakforyourself.jpg)

There's something about this album that I just like. Don't ask me why, I just think it's fun to listen to.


Veruca Salt - Eight Arms to Hold You
(http://cache.umusic.com/images/local/250/678abbe5-5c65-45cb-903d-1eea66187038.jpg)

These chicks (and a couple dudes) know how to rock it out. :P
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: corwinzor on 01 Nov 2007, 20:45
Rasputina. I think Cabin Fever is their best album.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Clobbersaurus on 12 Nov 2007, 13:07
i respect rasputina with all my pee pee, but i have never really been able to get into them.
i dont know why. i really thought i'd adore them when a friend recommended them to me...
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Wayfaring Stranger on 14 Nov 2007, 11:26
Stars is definitely a band with mostly fellows in it, but I like Amy Millan's contributions, so they can has honorable mention?
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Johnny C on 14 Nov 2007, 21:57
Torquil from that band is notoriously a douchebag of the highest order.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Wayfaring Stranger on 15 Nov 2007, 15:46
It's a pity, too.  I think their music is pretty good nonetheless.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Clobbersaurus on 19 Nov 2007, 02:59
You could argue she is one of the best song-writers but I think as a musician she wouldn't rank in the top million or so.

She works with very good people on every album but I do not think her actual musical talents are particularly amazing. I am not sure if she can actually play any instruments though I am convinced she dabbles. If you look at the credits for her albums, every album uses a host of session musicians. Not a criticism of her, just an important distinction.
she is most definetly a musician (i'll go ahead and mention that she was a drummer, can play a few wind instruments--including the flute, and plays piano) as well as a composer (understands the language of music to the nth degree--and isn't that what makes a musician a musician anyway?).

Right, so what I said is accurate. She still wouldn't be considered "one of the best musicians of this generation". No doubt she plays a few instruments to a reasonable standard but we don't have to kid ourselves into believing she is a virtuoso with every instrument. She's a very good songwriter, arranger and vocalist without piling unnecessary tributes upon her.
are you saying that playing a multitude of instruments at a virtuoso level constitutes as the only attribute of a great musician?
that seems a little too left-brained, if so, and i can't say i'd agree with that completely.

i've always been opposed to the idea that a musician isn't a musician if they don't have, say, an acoustic guitar wrapped around their neck.
If someone makes music, they're a musician. songwriter, arranger, and vocalist all fall under the "musician" umbrella, not beside, above, or set apart from it.

now i imagine someone saying "so do birds and whales make music?" and then there would be this whole mind-fuck over the defining and overlapping features of communication and music and babies would cry.

i think.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Inlander on 19 Nov 2007, 04:23
i respect rasputina with all my pee pee

That doesn't sound like you respect them very much at all . . .
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: David_Dovey on 19 Nov 2007, 04:46
She still wouldn't be considered "one of the best musicians of this generation". No doubt she plays a few instruments to a reasonable standard but we don't have to kid ourselves into believing she is a virtuoso with every instrument.

Since when did you consider musical virtuosity the primary factor in these things?
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: tommydski on 19 Nov 2007, 04:58
I'm going to go ahead and say that it's not unfair to expect someone vaunted as the "one of the best musicians of her our generation" to be something of a virtuoso. We have other words we can use for her genuine talents, it's lazy to pour accolades on her that she...wait I've explained this already, just go back and read it again.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: JimmyJazz on 19 Nov 2007, 10:42
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/52/NicoChelseaGirl.jpg)

I can't believe this record hasn't been mentioned yet.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Johnny C on 19 Nov 2007, 11:57
I'm going to go ahead and say that it's not unfair to expect someone vaunted as the "one of the best musicians of her our generation" to be something of a virtuoso. We have other words we can use for her genuine talents, it's lazy to pour accolades on her that she...wait I've explained this already, just go back and read it again.

By this token is it fair to consider Joanna Newsom one of the best musicians of our generation?
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: carrotosaurus on 19 Nov 2007, 20:14
Joanna Newsom surely is one of the best drowning cats of our generation.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: tommydski on 19 Nov 2007, 21:44
By this token is it fair to consider Joanna Newsom one of the best musicians of our generation?

If one made this argument, it would be still be better than the Bjork one.

The point stands, if you're going to be known as "one of the best musicians of our generation" you'd probably have to play at least one instrument to an excellent standard and a few others to a novice standard. Otherwise, there will be people out there who are better. Why isn't it sufficient to call someone a great songwriter? It is, we just like to pour unnecessary plaudits on people we like to make them seem more important.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: KharBevNor on 20 Nov 2007, 00:14
Tommy thinks you must play an instrument to be a musician!

ROCKIST.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Storm Rider on 20 Nov 2007, 00:25
Oh god, can we please not talk about how idiotic the whole rockism vs. popism bullshit is?
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: KharBevNor on 20 Nov 2007, 00:26
Storm Rider thinks popism is bullshit!

ROCKIST.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Storm Rider on 20 Nov 2007, 00:32
I got about halfway through typing a response and then I was like goddammit the motherfucker got me right where he wanted me
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: KharBevNor on 20 Nov 2007, 00:57
Go listen to your rock, you filthy rockist.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Storm Rider on 20 Nov 2007, 01:02
Maybe I will, because I live in a parallel universe where people are actually allowed to enjoy music

Dammit I feel like I am overusing the italics-for-emphasis+no punctuation thing. Khar you ruin everything.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: KharBevNor on 20 Nov 2007, 01:03
Storm. I'm going to ask you a serious question here.

Do you think I'm being serious? When I say the word rockist? Me?
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Storm Rider on 20 Nov 2007, 01:05
Of course not. Duh.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: FireAarro on 20 Nov 2007, 01:13
The Woods because it is shit except for Jumpers

That is a bullshit goddamn lie.

Seconded. YOU LOSE AT THE INTERNETS.

Thirded. The Woods = AMAZING tones from every instrument on all tracks. I hardly ever hear music that sounds this huge. The Fox is bonecrushing. The lyrics in Jumpers are kinda shitty anyway.

I second the notion that anyone who plays music is a musician.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: tommydski on 20 Nov 2007, 03:35
However, in order to be "one of the best musicians of our generation" I think in order to make a credible claim you'd probably have to play an instrument.

A kid can draw a hippo in chubby crayons but we don't need to call him one of the best artists of our generation.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: Inlander on 20 Nov 2007, 03:43
I would consider somebody who plays an instrument to be an instrumentalist, and somebody who creates music to be a musician.

I mean, you can type at 100 words a minute, but that won't make you a writer, just a typist.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: FireAarro on 20 Nov 2007, 03:52
I'd call a singer a musician, as well as people creating/programming electronic music on laptops, and some DJs too.
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: tommydski on 20 Nov 2007, 04:02
(http://www.poster.net/durst-fred/durst-fred-photo-xl-fred-durst-6209268.jpg)
Title: Re: So, you want to listen to music with breasts?
Post by: öde on 20 Nov 2007, 04:40
ARGUING POINTLESSLY ON THE INTERNET.