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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Brotheridge on 26 Oct 2007, 12:32
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It is almost impossible to get tortoiseshell plectrums these days (at least where I am). I understand why this is and think that to kill a tortoise to make a plectrum would be obscene.
I have, however, been told that tortoiseshell is the finest material to make picks from.
Suppose someone has a sister whose tortoise just died of natural causes. Further suppose that the aforementioned someone had kindly offered to bury the pet to save his sibling more unnecessary heartbreak. Would it be completely immoral for that person to attempt to fashion his own tortoiseshell picks and pretend to bury the animal? The sister would still have a place to pay her respects to her lost friend and the guitarist would have some sweet new gear.
Plus, Elizabeth would never know.
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How old is said sister? Maybe you should ask her if she's okay with it. I think if it were me, I'd like knowing that he's still kinda living on through your music. Whatever you do though, make sure you dispose of the rest of the animal respectfully.
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She is 25
The age of this person's sister doesn't seem too important to me as she would never know. If this person were to undertake this macabre project would it be wrong of them to post progress pics in the arts and crafts section?
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It is almost impossible to get human bone plectrums these days (at least where I am). I understand why this is and think that to kill somone's mom to make a plectrum would be obscene.
I have, however, been told that human bone is the finest material to make picks from.
Suppose someone has a sister whose mom just died of natural causes. Further suppose that the aforementioned someone had kindly offered to bury the mom to save his sibling more unnecessary heartbreak. Would it be completely immoral for that person to attempt to fashion his own human bone picks and pretend to bury the mom? The sister would still have a place to pay her respects to her lost mom and the guitarist would have some sweet new gear.
Plus, Elizabeth would never know.
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My job would actually make your idea just as easy for me to achieve, Pilsner...
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shudders
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kill 'em all and let the norse gods sort 'em out.
in other words; i say go for it. does a dead turtle needs its shell for anything? not that i know of. as long as she can pay her respects to the thing and either; A) never finds out or B) doesn't care, then i think it is okay.
hell, if i was me (and i am) i'd be disapointed if someone turned down an opportunity to make something useful out of my otherwise useless corpse. bodies take up too much space in the landscape; onward, to efficiency, people!
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I'd be concerned that she would find out. Unlikely, maybe, but its a possibility and if she did find out after the fact, that could really effect your relationship.
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You think like a girl.
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Well if you didn't think about stuff like that, then you wouldn't be asking for advice.
Personally, if it was my tortoise I'd say no, because it's just cruel to mess with an animal after it's dead. But if it was my sister's tortoise, I'd do it and then bury it without her knowing, and tell her i bought the picks on the internet.
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The devil on my shoulder always seems to win
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because it's just cruel to mess with an animal after it's dead.
What? Why? He'd be fashioning something useful out of the body, not doing something disrespectful like playing football with it.
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I suppose the title of this thread is misleading. I should have called it "listen to the awesome thing I'm gonna do! Aren't I interesting?!"
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Oh my god, whatever happened to just settling with Tortex/nylon picks, one of the many tortoiseshell substitutes, or buying existing tortoiseshell picks? That said, experimenting with your sister's dead turtle's remains might be admissible if you didn't attempt to be so clandestine about it- that implies that what you're doing is morally objectionable. If you clearly explain to her what good will come from utilizing the turtle's shell, by all means, proceed. If not, I'd hope you have the decency to abstain from diggin' up graves. I wouldn't suggest getting your own turtle, because we all know what you'd be tempted to do. :-o
There's an international ban on tortoiseshell picks for a reason, ya know. There's no need to be slaughtering endangered animals. (Please note: I am not insinuating that this is what you are doing; it's quite obvious that the turtle is already deceased).
Scandanavian War Machine: If he were following the principle of true conservation and efficiency, he would've baked the rest of the turtle into cupcakes. Then served said cupcakes at the turtle's vigil. There's a difference between scattering someone's ashes and ingesting them, ya know.
To Brotheridge: Is that along the lines of thinking like "a girl"? PS: Please don't post pics in the arts and crafts thread, because unless you have the proper equipment and research, I'd hate to see someone take a hacksaw to ANYONE'S former family pet.
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You should definitely tell her what you've done. Afterwards, when she's holding one of the plectrums.
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And a cupcake...?
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She's probably going to find this thread, anyway. If he's asking the INTERNET for advice, he's already decided. There's really no "dilemma", here.
When you're done, you should create some memorabilia to commemorate the process. Like, make T-shirts or something.
PS: You kind of remind me of the crazy lune in Frankenhooker.
PPS: Seems as if Brotheridge has sobered up a bit, so I apologize for the unnecessary jokes.
Also, a pack of wolves, THAT IS NOT SCHOLARSHIP!!
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I must confess that when I first got the idea I couldn't really see a reason not to do it. The more I think about it the more problems I see. I do not really want to show any disrespect to something that brought joy to someone I love and I can't think of a way to efficiently remove the tortoise from it's shell without doing just that. I may have to accept that this isn't going to happen.
Or enroll in a tortoise dissection class.
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Scholars agree the only way to effectively learn tortoise dissection is by trial and error. It's more of an art than a science.
At this point I want a detailed photographic record of the entire process in '70s photo story style. And yes, definitely with a cupcake too.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SUjXRkiRb0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SUjXRkiRb0)
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There's a difference between scattering someone's ashes and ingesting them, ya know.
Yes. It is the difference between *snooze* and FUCK YEAAAAAAAAH.
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What? Why? He'd be fashioning something useful out of the body, not doing something disrespectful like playing football with it.
I know, and that's fair enough, it's just personally I get really attached to my pets and if someone was to take my cat after she'd died, and do something "useful" with her body I would have cried and then beaten the crap out of them.
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it's just cruel to mess with an animal after it's dead.
And raising and killing them for the purposes of enjoying their taste, absorbing their nutrients, or making money is . . . ?
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...delicious.
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Question: Do you have any idea how the hell to fashion raw tortoiseshell into a pick? Why is tortoiseshell so great? Why does it even matter?
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Just play Tortex picks like everyone else does, you dick.
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What? Why? He'd be fashioning something useful out of the body, not doing something disrespectful like playing football with it.
I know, and that's fair enough, it's just personally I get really attached to my pets and if someone was to take my cat after she'd died, and do something "useful" with her body I would have cried and then beaten the crap out of them.
Not a fan of Shamisen music, are you? (sorry)
There's a difference between scattering someone's ashes and ingesting them, ya know.
Yes. It is the difference between *snooze* and FUCK YEAAAAAAAAH.
Should I be concerned that this reminds me of Sexy Losers?
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You should definitely make a keychain out of the tortoise's head. I hear they're good luck.
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Question: Do you have any idea how the hell to fashion raw tortoiseshell into a pick?
This is the crucial aspect that renders this whole thread ridiculous.
I mean seriously, you ever worked in tortoiseshell? I've fooled around a bit with horn, which must be somewhat similiar, and you DO need special tools. Not to mention the fact that if you create a crappily shaped pick, it's going to remove all the advantages of using tortoiseshell in the first place.
Not to mention that even using tortex marks you out as a wanker. Just use fucking normal plastic and learn to play well.
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I hear rhino horn makes a good aphrodisiac.
But first you have to be able to have sex.