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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Merkwürdigliebe on 30 Oct 2007, 19:12
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I have these things I call "Shames": songs/bands I haven't heard that "everyone should have heard", movies that "everyone should see", and books "everyone should read". In short, basically a list of "classics/greats" that I haven't actually gotten too yet. I blame the music "Shames" on not listening to the radio; the book shames on a lack of money and the presence of a shitty public library; and the movie shames on a lack of money.
Anyway, I wanted to hear people's music shames. Now, I'm expecting to hear a lot of Indie stuff I guess--maybe you guys are so into music that it would be like "well, I haven't heard the unreleased bootleg demo track by Beck, which was the first thing he ever did" or whatever. If that's true, then you guys really have no music shames unless you hang out with elitists or something. ^_^
Anyway, here are some of mine:
1. Up until the Sunday before last, I had never heard "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction."
2. Counting that song, I have heard probably 2 or 3 songs by the Rolling Stones
3. I have never heard anything by The Who (except "My Generation")
4. I have heard maybe 4 songs by the Eagles--until about a week ago, I had heard zero.
5. Never heard anything by U2.
6. Never heard anything by Bob Dylan except covers of two of his songs
There are way more, but I'm too tired to think of them now.
What are some of yours (if any?)
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You're doing pretty well on the U2 and Eagles front. My advice is to stick with that.
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In terms of not hearing U2 or the Eagles, that is nothing to be ashamed about.
That would be something to be enormously grateful for.
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Slow to the post Tommy. You must be getting old.
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I have yet to actually delve into the artistic output of the following bands that I know I will almost certainly enjoy once I do ...
Modest Mouse
Iron Maiden
Radiohead
Skyclad
St. Vitus
MF Doom
Neurosis
Melvins
Dinosaur Jr.
I'll think of more later.
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As of monday i had never ever listened to Radiohead before.
I still haven't watched Donnie Darko, Shaun of the Dead and Night of the Living Dead.
I haven't yet listened to Rush or Bob Dylan
My torrent keeps screwing around and so I still don't have that early Beck Demo.
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Modest Mouse
Recommended albums: If you like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBdUocDd1Xw) start with This Is A Long Drive For Someone With Nothing To Think About and The Lonesome Crowded West. If you prefer this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLkC8l3nJro) start with Good News For People Who Love Bad News and The Moon And Antarctica.
There are plenty of 'classics' or 'required -' that I haven't looked into. This is because I am lazy and don't particularly care.
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I feel I should listen to more of the following bands. They are bands that I like and have heard some things by but due to a lack of money and a lack of interest in buying cds it is hard to work up the momentum to go into a record store and come out with something.
- Emperor; I only have Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk and I need to hear more.
- Nightwish; I'm going to their concert in February and while I know that they don't sound like they used to, I would like to hear more of their older stuff which I like infinitely more than their new stuff.
- Nine Inch Nails; I have a couple of the newer albums and a few of the older ones but as yet I do not have a complete copy of The Downward Spiral or Further Down the Spiral
These are things I feel very strongly about.
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I didn't know who John Zorn was until today.
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I have yet to actually delve into the artistic output of the following bands that I know I will almost certainly enjoy once I do ...
Modest Mouse
Ignorance is bliss, buddy.
Although if you have serial insomnia it might just be worth downloading a worst-of of their least offensive songs. Most of them are too irritating to bore you into unconsciousness though.
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Ah, more that I have remembered:
Only heard, let's see... three AC/DC songs, I think. And even then not in entirety.
Never heard any Van Halen, Johnny Cash (nothing complete anyway), Van Morrison, The Doors, The Grateful Dead.
(And I only included U2 and the Eagles because I knew that I had worse, but couldn't think of any.)
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Most of those are toss but get the first 2 or 3 Doors albums.
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Most of those are toss but get the first 2 or 3 Doors albums.
Yeah, but I just keep getting the reaction of like
"You've never heard them before?!"
And then me going "No..."
This usually happens with my girlfriend. She then immediately hits me afterward. I have learned to step out of range whenever she asks these kinds of questions.
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Just get a random filler track from each band so you can say 'yeah, I heard (awful song) and was put off them for life'. It's the indie-cred-preserving way of saying 'I cannot be fucked to listen to this terrible band purely because the masses have decided over the past 30 years that they should be considered awesome'.
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Just get a random filler track from each band so you can say 'yeah, I heard (awful song) and was put off them for life'. It's the indie-cred-preserving way of saying 'I cannot be fucked to listen to this terrible band purely because the masses have decided over the past 30 years that they should be considered awesome'.
Haha. Yeah, I think I'm going to do that.
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Most of those are toss but get the first 2 or 3 Doors albums.
This involves missing out on L.A. Woman, which over time I've come to consider to be their best.
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Well shit, I had that mentally filed amongst said 2-3. Definitely get the first 4 albums then. Good call ^
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Van Morrison
Some stuff he does is really good. A concert that he did in San Fransisco is worth checking out if you're kinda into Blues/Jazz/Funk stuff.
I mean, this is the guy who brought us songs like "Have I Told You Lately" but in the presence of songs like covering "Good Morning Little Schoolgirl" it can probably be forgiven. That said, I think that I prefer him when he's doing the more up-tempo bluesy Jazz/rock to the pure blues stuff he sometimes does. I wouldn't recommend most other albums to people who aren't fond of slow, very introspective music since eventually most albums particularly ones from a period during the 80s and 90s delve into songs with a very formulaic easy listening style, starting out with a cymbal splash, moving into a simple piano riff of sorts, and then eventually going into him devolving into muttering almost incoherently while he tries to play the same notes he sings on the guitar. Not very interesting overall. That said, there are some good things hidden away even on these albums, though not everyones' cup of tea and a lot does feel like overly santized jazz stuff. The concert doesn't have that feel, thank goodness.
Also, I have two albums by U2, an 18 Singles CD and Rattle and Hum. A fair amount of what can be said about Van Morrison applies to U2, and this attempt at having a more "Black-Americana" sound is fine by me, just like with the Van Morrison CD. I wouldn't recommend it to people that can't stand hearing even a short snippet of a random U2 song though anyone else might get some enjoyment out of it partly because it's not your average U2.
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Well shit, I had that mentally filed amongst said 2-3. Definitely get the first 4 albums then. Good call ^
You'd still be missing L.A. Woman. It was the sixth one. Probably my favourite Doors album as well.
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I hate Bob Dylan.
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Most of those are toss but get the first 2 or 3 Doors albums.
(http://www.chrisdellavedova.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/astral-weeks.jpg)
Come on. Astral Weeks, man.
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I bought Angel Dust on Sunday, around 2 years after I bought King For A Day... Fool For A Life Time.
Get me and my backwards examination of Faith No More.
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I hate Bob Dylan.
That's a fair call.
I own no records by Alice Cooper, Negative Approach or Neurosis and I've never actually heard the Necros. I feel really quite embarrassed by that last one.
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I honestly hate almost all classic rock. Give me a long list of bands from the 60's and 70's, and I will only be able to pick out maybe a small handful of bands that I like.
Actually, that's not really a shame...I don't care too much at all.
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Just get a random filler track from each band so you can say 'yeah, I heard (awful song) and was put off them for life'. It's the indie-cred-preserving way of saying 'I cannot be fucked to listen to this terrible band purely because the masses have decided over the past 30 years that they should be considered awesome'.
For The Doors, I recommend "The End." Listen to it once and you will never want to listen to anything by The Doors again.
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...The End is a really good song.
I like the Doors.
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Oh no, I wasn't including The Doors in that. That was for all the other crappy 'old therefore cool' acts like Van Halen. Doors barely have a bad song on their first... well, 6 apparently, albums (I totally lose track of which CDs go where in the discog).
The End is a stunning song.
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I hate Bob Dylan.
As a songwriter or as a performer? 'Cause some of his biggest successes have come from other people covering his songs.
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The Doors -> Strange Days -> Waiting For The Sun -> The Soft Parade -> Morrison Hotel -> L.A. Woman
Ranked: L.A. Woman > The Doors > Morrison Hotel > Strange Days > Waiting For The Sun > The Soft Parade
I was a gigantic Doors fan for a long while though. Most people could probably just make do with L.A. Woman and The Doors. Those are the two I'd say are pretty well essential.
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Fuck that, Morrison hotel has Roadhouse Blues! So the two you mentioned and that one fo sho.
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You're doing pretty well on the U2 and Eagles front. My advice is to stick with that.
Have I mentioned lately how much I love these forums? I thought I was doomed to walk the Earth alone in my hatred for U2, the Eagles, the Rolling Stones and the Beatles.
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Fuck that, Morrison hotel has Roadhouse Blues! So the two you mentioned and that one fo sho.
It actually has a fair number of my favourite Doors songs. "Indian Summer," "Roadhouse Blues," "You Make Me Real," "The Spy." Definitely their most underrated album. I'd say The Doors is only marginally better.
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I do not yet love Bob Dylan but eventually I will beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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Only heard, let's see... three AC/DC songs, I think. And even then not in entirety.
Wait, what? AC/DC have three songs?
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You're doing pretty well on the U2 and Eagles front. My advice is to stick with that.
Have I mentioned lately how much I love these forums? I thought I was doomed to walk the Earth alone in my hatred for U2, the Eagles, the Rolling Stones and the Beatles.
Well, I'm not very fond of the Rolling Stones or the Greatful Dead most of the time. And I know a couple bands with members the age of the Rolling Stones guys who could totally kick their asses in terms of the Super Bowl Halftime Show.
Beatles I like SOME stuff of. I like the whole rock sound type of thing that they did (OH HOW COULD I DANCE WITH ANOTHER
WHOA
WHEN I SAW HER STANDING THERE) enough, but I didn't like some of their acid-trip experimental stuff. And John Lennon's idealism kinda' grates on me.
But my major music shame is that I have heard music from ABBA.
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I also found Lennon's idealism less grating, because his opinion of the threatened late-sixties revolutions was 'there's no fucking point revolting if you're just going to replace it with shagging and LSD. Something new has to replace the old system.'
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I can't be alone in thinking that Morrison Hotel is a pretty unremarkable album? It's not really Doorsy enough; there's not much of a weird/dark underbelly. I mean I rate it above The Soft Parade, but hey at least they tried something a bit different on that one.
Strange Days, LA Woman and The Doors are where it is at. Strange Days is probably the best. Except for "Horse Latitudes". More like "Skip Skipitudes" amiritelol. Even American Prayer, in its entirety, is less laughable and more listenable than that track. But it is totally made up for by every single other song on the album.
BUT, I would say it's probably just best to listen to every doors album ever because they all tend to have quite a few very good songs, which seems to be more than enough these days for an album to be 'wicked cool', as the 'kids' are 'wont' to say these 'days'.
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I can't stand listening to Bob Dylan. Fantastic song writer, but I don't want to hear him play them.
About three years ago, I had only heard two Led Zeppelin songs and didn't care for either. Soon after, I heard When the Levee Breaks and loved it, so got more and I like them quite a bit now.
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Robert Plant is a slimy fuck
John Bonham man, he really sucked
Those greedy fuckers, those phoney shits
They made their money off idiots
I hate Led Zeppelin
12 dollar concerts were all the rage
They bought cocaine for Jimmy Page
"Stairway to Heaven" makes me see red
Bonzo's buried, only three more left
I hate Led Zeppelin
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That song still has the power to piss people off. Case in point, just search for it on the iTunes Music Store and you'll find at least one user-created playlist made specifically in protest to it.
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I really dislike the Beatles, and with the exception of some Hendrix and possibly some of the cage/la monte young/terry riley pieces I can honestly say that all the music made from, say, 1910-1980 annoys me intensely. (there's some rather excellent romantic era music out there)
I have never heard any Mozart (or at least not deliberately) and can safely say that I find Bach really boring. I don't mind some baroque but I really don't like any music from the classical era. Does that make me a bad person?
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I have not heard Miles Davis. I am also ignorant of hardcore, by and large.
Also, haven't heard anything from Radiohead pre-Kid A. I hear it's more rock oriented, and I happen to like the electronic bent of the later stuff, so I don't know if I'll like it.
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But my major music shame is that I have heard music from ABBA.
WHAT
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I really dislike the Beatles,
My mum's side of my family and I would probably kill you for such blasphemy.
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I have never heard any Mozart (or at least not deliberately) and can safely say that I find Bach really boring. I don't mind some baroque but I really don't like any music from the classical era. Does that make me a bad person?
Not really. It just means you are unbalanced. Although I'm not sure that you should dismiss all classical music, having never heard Mozart. Also, how can you like late Romantic music until Mahler (essentially) but think Shostakovich (for example) is intensely annoying? Then again, I am of the opinion that Terry Riley and La Monte Young are terribly annoying and dull so there you are. Still, their kind of "minimalism" suffers from a lot of the faults of classical music, and is kind of 10 times less interesting.
Recommendations to begin maybe?:
Bach:
- Violin Concerto in a minor;
- Violin and Oboe concerto;
- All the Brandenburg concertos in case you don't know them (no 3 esp)
- The Well-Tempered clavier was probably the greatest achievement in western music until Beethoven's 9th. Still I suspect you won't like it all that much. Doesn't mean you are a bad person, just a Bad-Tempered one.
I sometimes think that the quality of Bach is inversely proportional to the number of woodwind instruments involved. Orchestral-style blending wasn't really something anyone worried about back then (there was no such thing as an orchestra as we know it) so he wasn't very good at it.
Mozart:
- Requiem (especially the Lacrimosa; it's hackneyed but for a reason)
- Ave verum corpus
- Piano Concerto No 24
- Violin Concerto in G
- Sinfonia Concertante in E flat
- Flute and Harp concerto[/i]
Also check out some of the operas; they are a bit more dramatic as you'd expect and he's really the only Germanic composer who's nailed opera in my opinion (say no to Wagner). The Italians invented it, they knew how to do it, and Mozart just pretty much did what they did, just a lot better. Don Giovanni and Die Zauberflöte are the best.
Sorry if this seems a bit forward or you're just uninterested but hey it's more fun for me than studying.
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but hey it's more fun for me than studying.
P-R-O-C-R-A-S-T-I-N-A-T-O-R
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Not telling us anything we didn't know.
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Those greedy fuckers, those phoney shits
They made their money off idiots
OH THE IRONING
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(say no to Wagner)
EH-UUUUUUUH
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Those greedy fuckers, those phoney shits
They made their money off idiots
OH THE IRONING
see it's funny cause it's Screeching Weasel!
who also made money off idiots! (like myself!)
they just can't play their guitars, either.
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I listened to Jimi Hendrix for basically the first time today. It was ok, I ended up listening to Funkadelic instead.
Im embarrassed to have never heard London Calling, especially because I listen to the Clash alot.
Real shame? I've never heard Trapped in the Closet
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my music shame is that I never listen or heard about most of the bands, indie bands that has been mention on this message board.
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that's why I love this board, it's gotten me into a fair few bands who're now staples of the collection. 'tis no shame, gotta start somewhere.
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Those greedy fuckers, those phoney shits
They made their money off idiots
OH THE IRONING
see it's funny cause it's Screeching Weasel!
who also made money off idiots! (like myself!)
they just can't play their guitars, either.
I was more making a point about the fact that by using the word 'idiots,' they didn't actually make a rhyme there. Meaning they are idiots. Lolz. Or something.
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both are applicable but mine antagonizes Ben Weasel more
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Then ever'bodeh's happeh.
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Some of my friends always get on my case because I have yet to listen to Deerhoof, Sigur Rós and Explosions In the Sky.
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Abba is da motherfucking bomb
Period
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Abba is da motherfucking bomb
Period
This is about shames, not truths.
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Some of my friends always get on my case because I have yet to listen to Deerhoof, Sigur Rós and Explosions In the Sky.
One of those is excellent, another is quite good and the third is rubbish. But since your avatar is Miles Davis I wouldn't feel too ashamed about any of those if I were you.
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Godspeed You! Black Emporer did not live up to the hype you all placed upon them. Also, Jimi Hendrix sucks, and you guys should give U2 a break; The Joshua Tree is a good album.....after that it just goes downhill, though.
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thank fuck for that post I thought I was the only person on here who thought GY!!!!!B!B!!E were annoying noise. and joshua tree is good.
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oh man, we must have heard different albums because annoying noise would have been more tolerable than the NOTHING that they use on whichever album i heard.
....F#A# infinity or somesuch nonsensical shit, i think it was.
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man, I was just having this conversation, except about movies, with my roommate. He got seriously angry at me for saying I hadn't seen the Princess Bride.
Anyways, I haven't ever listened to Velvet Underground, despite lots of recommendations from my friends. Ditto with the Eels, and deerhoof. And I don't think I can name a single Clash song besides London Calling that I've ever listened to, along with anything by the Ramones. And I'm sure there's way more.
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Ah, Velvet Underground, that's a good one. I fucking hate Nico, and cannot fathom why anyone would voluntarily listen to any of her stuff. Lou Reed and John Cale couldn't sing, but they had some otherworldly charisma about them. Nico has only ever sounded to me like someone who thinks she's more important than she is. And yet she also has solo material. Who listens to this stuff????
...and what's the deal with French Fries?
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I used to really hate Nico's voice but now it is pretty much my favorite thing on VU&Nico that is not John Cale going "WUSHA WUSHA CREAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKK".
It's funny how these things change.
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I write for a website named after a Nico song.
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My Shames are that iv never listened to any Pink flyod and I hate the one song i have the "wall"
Never really liked any "real" punk"
I have never read Huck Finn, Tom Sawer or cacher in the Rye or To catch a Mocking Bird
and maybe my bigest shame iv only been to seven concerts in my 8 in my life and one was Poison In the Well :x
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It's funny how these things change.
Indeed. I used to HATE Tom Waits then a couple years later I gave him another chance and loved it. Who knows why.
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Only a couple of months ago was the first time I listened to Iron Maiden properly for the first time.
But it's ok, because as soon as I did hear them properly I went and got two of their cds and such, and now it turns out I'm going to go and see them live early next year :-D
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And yet she also has solo material. Who listens to this stuff????
dude the marble index is actually stunning
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My Shames are that iv never listened to any Pink flyod and I hate the one song i have the "wall"
Never really liked any "real" punk"
I have never read Huck Finn, Tom Sawer or cacher in the Rye or To catch a Mocking Bird
and maybe my bigest shame iv only been to seven concerts in my 8 in my life and one was Poison In the Well :x
Welcome to the forum. Clearing up your typing a tad would be advised to get by on here - plus people tend to be majorly pedantic about correct titles. If I wasn't at work and so having to go back to doing water maps in about two minutes, I'd have come up with roughly five hundred jokes on how Pink Floyd have no song called 'Wall' and there is no such book as 'To Catch A Mockingbird.'
And what's wrong with Poison The Well? I've always liked the whole two-guitars-fuck-bass setup.