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Title: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Ttam1210 on 08 Nov 2007, 16:41
sorry to be over nostalgic but I hate "nu-ravers" going around thinking that their favourite band is so unique and experimental when in the 1990's the whole scene was done and at a so much better level

Take bands such as "Enter Shikari" who, even though they try to be post-hardcore, nuvo-ironic hybrids of electronic, emo and indy are, essentially, "nu-rave".
They are recycling what so many bands before them have done though they get treated as gods among musicians.

"Nu-rave" is fastly becoming the new emo... not because of the content of the scene but purely for the generalisation of the term.

Although, bands like new young pony club and SHITDISCO are good in their own way

they are nothing compared to Prodigy, Rozalla, Praga Khan, Hallucinogen, Astral Projection, Andy C, Goldie, Dieselboy, Happy Hardcore, Gabba/Gabber, Cosmic Gate, DJ Scot Project, Technoboy, Blutonium Boy, Donkey Rollers, DJ Coone, Q-IC, DJ Greg, Dark Raver, Aphex twin and The Shamen

anyway i am being slightly hipster and i would like to finish with

BRING BACK THE NINETIES I FEEL TOO OLD!!!!
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: a pack of wolves on 08 Nov 2007, 16:56
Enter Shikari don't really have much in common with any of the bands you've listed. Not that I'm a fan of them but it's rather an unfair comparison, and I don't see how the nu-rave tag fits them at all, aside from how they dress and the fact that they use a little electronics. They've got more in common with your average myspace metal or extremo band.

I quite like nu-rave myself. It's fun, and I don't think it really has much to do with the rave scene you're missing in terms of sound or ethos, the name refers more to fashion and a general dance approach. Why not enjoy both?
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: jeph on 08 Nov 2007, 17:08
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Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: supersheep on 08 Nov 2007, 17:22
Nu-rave has nothing to do with rave music. It's a convenient label tagged onto a particular genre of music by the press. Alos, happy hardcore? To each their own I guess...

THING I LEARNED TODAY: Richard D James is from Limerick.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: MusicScribbles on 08 Nov 2007, 18:18
So at clubs that play nu-rave, I guess they don't hand out pacifiers.
Would they hand out jumbo marshmallows instead, or latex gloves?
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: est on 08 Nov 2007, 18:28
Nu-Rave?

Moar liek Nu-Gayve, amirite?
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: est on 08 Nov 2007, 18:30
see, it's funny because a lot of the Nu-Rave guys are actually gay.  Geddit?
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: est on 08 Nov 2007, 18:30
also: Ttam1210 your taste in music sucks, and you suck.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 08 Nov 2007, 18:35
we were all thinkin' it

he just said it for us
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: MusicScribbles on 08 Nov 2007, 19:21
You see, this is why we always get yelled at by each other. Why does music have to suck? What about feelings?
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Johnny C on 08 Nov 2007, 19:45
FEELINGS ARE BORING

KISSING IS AWESOME
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: MusicScribbles on 08 Nov 2007, 19:54
(http://www.kiddierekordking.com/images/I%20Saw%20Mommy%20Kissing%20Santa%20Claus,%20COLUMBIA%20MJV-152_%20Jimmy%20Boyd.JPG)
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: jeph on 08 Nov 2007, 23:00
you know what i hate

is pears
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: E. Spaceman on 08 Nov 2007, 23:18
Man, as much as i dislike NME genre mongering and even though nu rave is one of the stupidest of their made up genres (I hear CSS are nu rave now?), rave was basically the nadir of the milennium.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Storm Rider on 08 Nov 2007, 23:23
I dunno man. Call me crazy, but I think the bubonic plague might beat it out.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: jeph on 09 Nov 2007, 00:28
Both the bubonic plage and rave music pale in comparison to HITLER
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: debaser on 09 Nov 2007, 01:05
Ultimate anti-Nazi crime fighting force:

Indiana Jones
Winston Churchill
Articuno
Chewbacca
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Storm Rider on 09 Nov 2007, 01:44
Both the bubonic plage and rave music pale in comparison to HITLER

LOL GODWIN'D!
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Ttam1210 on 09 Nov 2007, 02:08
Ultimate anti-Nazi crime fighting force:

Indiana Jones
Winston Churchill
Articuno
Chewbacca


haha that would be awesome!!!

bring in Steven Segal and you have your ultimate ULTIMATE fighting quintet
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Ttam1210 on 09 Nov 2007, 02:13
btw i dont like rave

im just sick of 14 year old kids thinking that they're the original ravers!

and i hate enter shikari

I'm more into everything else!!
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Phaedra on 09 Nov 2007, 02:39
Quote from: Ttam1210
proper rave was the best
Quote from: Ttam1210
btw i dont like rave

Lol backpedal?
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: John Curtin on 09 Nov 2007, 02:40
This is now the best thread ever.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Inlander on 09 Nov 2007, 03:31
Quote from: Ttam1210
proper rave was the best
Quote from: Ttam1210
btw i dont like rave

Lol backpedal?

You're confusing a statement of relative merit with an endorsement. It's like if I was to say "Being hit in the head by a computer mouse is the best kind of being hit in the head", that does not mean that I am inviting you to hit me in the head with a computer mouse.

Also, Jeph, everyone knows that Hitler was a failed Austrian rave-organiser.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: KharBevNor on 09 Nov 2007, 04:51
I remember reading an article once where someone called Hitler the first DJ and Nuremberg the first rave whilst I was researching some topics around industrial. I have a strange suspicion it might have been Genesis P Orridge. That's the kind of thing he pops out of. Speaking P Orridge, the OP is fail for mentioning a slew of shitty artists, and not Psychic TV. Or the KLF for that matter.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Thrillho on 09 Nov 2007, 04:59
Uh, nu-rave isn't real. Nu-rave was a fake genre - I believe invented by Klaxons - to point out how shamelessly magazines like NME latch onto any 'trend' and act like it's the hottest shit ever. So I'm not sure if it's possible for nu-rave to be worse than old rave when nu-rave doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: KharBevNor on 09 Nov 2007, 05:06
I'm pretty sure Nu-Rave was made up by NME, or maybe the dynamics you suggest are closer to the truth, and the NME just latched on to a phrase of others.  I do know, however, that the NME has a bit of a history making up genres and trying to claim credit for them.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: NothingIncorporated on 09 Nov 2007, 05:59
Back in the day where there woudl ALWAYS be some sort of piano riff half way through a rave track, and people would go to clubs wearing UV clothing and dungarees


YES!
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Ttam1210 on 09 Nov 2007, 06:02
lol ye the title wasn't meant to be like that!!
it just mean that its better than nu-rave

oh god im a fool!!

lolz
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Thrillho on 09 Nov 2007, 07:02
That is the implication, yes.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: SeanBateman on 09 Nov 2007, 07:18
A bunch of my friends were going to go to a rave the other day, but it was like $40, so they didn't.

Ecstasy is a pretty dumb drug, huh.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: kid_militia on 09 Nov 2007, 11:28
bring in Steven Segal and you have your ultimate ULTIMATE fighting quintet

Unfortunately for that equation, Seagal is already in the Triarchy of Doom with Van Damme and Norris. Now, the three of them shatter civilizations.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Kai on 09 Nov 2007, 13:43
the OP is fail for mentioning a slew of shitty artists, and not Psychic TV.

Hey, I liked Psychic TV Shut up I hate you
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Joseph on 09 Nov 2007, 14:53
Kai, I think you misread what Khar wrote.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: KharBevNor on 09 Nov 2007, 15:40
Mis-reading as in, understanding exactly the opposite of what I was saying.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Kai on 10 Nov 2007, 06:40
I thought you were saying Psychic TV belonged with the slew of shitty artists, not instead of the shitty artists


duly noted
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: KharBevNor on 10 Nov 2007, 10:16
Now seriously man, what that you know about me would induce you to think such a thing?

I mean srsly.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Edible on 10 Nov 2007, 15:33
Both the bubonic plage and rave music pale in comparison to HITLER

LOL GODWIN'D!

It has been called, can someone close this please.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Luke C on 11 Nov 2007, 05:21
Rave music, whether 'nu' or otherwise sucks.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: David_Dovey on 11 Nov 2007, 05:24
I considered bumping this thread as well, but decided better of it.

Jus' sayin'
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Thunderpants121 on 11 Nov 2007, 10:08
you know what i hate

is pears

How can you hate pears? They're delicious! Nazis I understand, but pears?

I just thought of something that could give the Nazi Fighting Quartet a good run for its money:  Nazis and the Galactic Empire entering an alliance, with zombies, werewolves, vampires, al Quaida, Soviets, Redcoats, Mordor, and the New York Yankees as additional members. They build the ultimate super weapon: A Death Star discoball that replaces the big laser with a speaker that blasts out Trance, emo-core, pop-punk, and hip hop all at the same time, preceded and followed by the Soviet National Anthem.

Confronted with that force, the Quartet would need to recruit CHUCK NORRIS to help them win.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Ttam1210 on 11 Nov 2007, 10:24
you know what i hate

is pears

How can you hate pears? They're delicious! Nazis I understand, but pears?

I just thought of something that could give the Nazi Fighting Quartet a good run for its money:  Nazis and the Galactic Empire entering an alliance, with zombies, werewolves, vampires, al Quaida, Soviets, Redcoats, Mordor, and the New York Yankees as additional members. They build the ultimate super weapon: A Death Star discoball that replaces the big laser with a speaker that blasts out Trance, emo-core, pop-punk, and hip hop all at the same time, preceded and followed by the Soviet National Anthem.

Confronted with that force, the Quartet would need to recruit Anal Prolapse to help them win.

oh purlease C Norris could take them all on with one finger and both eyes shut

nah i think (without norris) we would need the force of yoda, obi wan, picard, Q, Kirk and spock
as well as Han Solo
while Faye blasts out sarcastic jibes in regards to all the enemy's personal life, attire and general appearence
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: KharBevNor on 11 Nov 2007, 11:18
What use would Kirk be? Seriously, you cannot beat ultimate evil by grinning at it, wrestling with it, getting Spock to nerve pinch it, then sleeping with its green-skinned girlfriend.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: mediumrare on 11 Nov 2007, 11:39
Right. I'm no reglar nor nothin but, as a member of the human race, I think I have a right to know:

What the fuck happened in this thread?

Actually?
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Ttam1210 on 11 Nov 2007, 14:35
Right. I'm no reglar nor nothin but, as a member of the human race, I think I have a right to know:

What the fuck happened in this thread?

Actually?

lol NAZI BASHING IS FUN

join us if you will!!
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Thunderpants121 on 11 Nov 2007, 14:58
Right. I'm no reglar nor nothin but, as a member of the human race, I think I have a right to know:

What the fuck happened in this thread?

Actually?

Nazi invasion. Messy stuff.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Skibas_clavicle on 11 Nov 2007, 19:38
Seriously, what the fuck is "nu-rave"?
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Inlander on 11 Nov 2007, 21:40
Rave with a fat white guy shouting angrily over the top?
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: MusicScribbles on 11 Nov 2007, 21:42
Some would call it the bastardisation of a people. Others would call it a new incarnation of the past. I call it teh suck.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Storm Rider on 11 Nov 2007, 21:50
Rave with a fat white guy shouting angrily over the top?

I thought we as a culture had decreed that nu-metal never happened. You are treading on shaky ground, Harry.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: jeph on 12 Nov 2007, 00:29
Rave with a fat white guy shouting angrily over the top?

I thought we as a culture had decreed that nu-metal never happened. You are treading on shaky ground, Harry.

You guys Les Savy Fav and Vitalic would be the best supergroup of all times
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Inlander on 12 Nov 2007, 03:24
I thought we as a culture had decreed that nu-metal never happened.

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

Repeat it with beats and glowsticks.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: amok on 12 Nov 2007, 10:05
Repeat it with beats and glowsticks.

now that's the kind of history I can get behind

imagine how much better hitler would be with beats and glowsticks (since this is already godwined)
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: E. Spaceman on 12 Nov 2007, 23:22
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b1/Letitbe_album_cover.jpg)

?
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Robototron on 21 Nov 2007, 21:29
You know, this time last year I figured all these New Rave bands would've broken up at this point and everyone would've pretended like they never existed. Is this still big in the UK?
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Thrillho on 22 Nov 2007, 12:24
You know, this time last year I figured all these New Rave bands would've broken up at this point and everyone would've pretended like they never existed. Is this still big in the UK?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH.

Does the editor of NME actually masturbate into your mouth when you're hungry?
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: Chymes on 22 Nov 2007, 15:41
Can someone list a few examples of what the hell Nu-Rave is? I don't really check the music press, just listen to recommendations from my peers to be honest. I fail to see how Enter Shikari, in any way, could be connected to Rave, to be honest. The only new bands I like listening to whilst high that I can think of from recent times are 65 Days of Static and Pendulum (hold your colour).

LSD - Love, Sensuality & Devotion :P
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: a pack of wolves on 22 Nov 2007, 15:45
Klaxons, New Young Pony Club, that kind of think. It's not all bad, both those bands have the odd song I really like.
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: KharBevNor on 22 Nov 2007, 17:16
LSD - Love, Sensuality & Devotion :P

LSD - Loves Secret Domain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ent8yoUMsEc)

(http://media.brainwashed.com/common/images/covers/torso181.jpg)
Title: Re: Nu-rave = shite... proper rave was the best
Post by: october1983 on 22 Nov 2007, 17:22
Southeast London is nu-rave-tastic. Shoredich, too. The people just love neon.