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Title: Space Rock?
Post by: StaedlerMars on 17 Nov 2007, 06:39
So, I was looking at the Flaming Lips on Wikipedia, and noticed they were classified as space rock (great definition for a genre by the way). Early Pink Floyd is apparently also a part of this genre, which leaves me the question:

Do any of you have any space rock suggestions?

I've just heard two Hawkwind songs, and I'm loving it.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: KharBevNor on 17 Nov 2007, 07:22
Get more Hawkwind.

You also want to acquire this:

(https://www.insideoutshop.de/images/1469_large.jpg)

Get the two disc version, there's a Hawkwind medley with Dave Brock on vocals on the second disk.

Basically, what we're talking about is Hawkwind, and lots of it.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Chad K. on 17 Nov 2007, 08:13
Failure -  "Fantastic Planet"
Hum - "You'd Prefer an Astronaut" and "Downward is Heavenward"
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Der Turm, der Leute frass on 17 Nov 2007, 08:18
Stare One are cool..but they're not space rock
i mean, the lyrics are all about space, fantasy, universe and stuff, but the Music has IMO very few in common with Space Rock

my favourite bands in that genre are the Ozric Tentacles (early Pink floyd are totally awesome too, of course)
and of course early Porcupine tree (Up The Downstair, Voyage 34 and The Sky moves sideways are some of the most beautiful pieces of music ever)

there's also a lot of very good bands sounding very similar to the ozric tentacles, including Quantum Fantay, Südstern 44, Hydiria Spacefolk and more
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Kai on 17 Nov 2007, 08:25
(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1595/ladiesandgentlemenwearefloatinginspacecdtj1.jpg)
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Misereatur on 17 Nov 2007, 09:00
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2/ffgtthttghyujjfdss/Mothershipconnection.jpg)
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: E. Spaceman on 17 Nov 2007, 09:11
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/85/Spacemenlg.jpg)
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: JimmyJazz on 17 Nov 2007, 10:08
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2/ffgtthttghyujjfdss/Mothershipconnection.jpg)

/thread.

Also, I would say Pink Floyd's first two albums are pretty space rock-ish.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Rawrbiquesauce on 17 Nov 2007, 11:35
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n2KZjUYC9GQ

best space rock there is
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Post by: Storm Rider on 17 Nov 2007, 12:30
Seconding Hawkwind and early Porcupine Tree.

Star One isn't really 'space rock', but it's awesome so you should listen to it anyway.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: KharBevNor on 17 Nov 2007, 12:40
No of course Star One isn't space rock. Unless metal is not rock now.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Thrillho on 17 Nov 2007, 14:25
Hawkwind and Parliament win the thread. But you might also check out some SikTh. But then they have elements of everything, it's just the easiest way to describe them is basically 'Space Metal.'
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Ishotdanieljohnston on 17 Nov 2007, 15:31
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2/ffgtthttghyujjfdss/Mothershipconnection.jpg)

Oh god yes.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Godlol on 17 Nov 2007, 15:38
go out and buy a book called dave gormans googlewhack adventure.  theres a chapter all about someone who obsessed over the stuff and it mentions a load of supposedly good bands (never listened to it so idk) and i would tell you what they are, but i wanna spread the magic of dave gorman, so yeah.

if you have a group of people called gorman, they are gormen
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Tehz on 17 Nov 2007, 17:32
I second Hum, they're excellent.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Ballard on 17 Nov 2007, 17:56
Spacemen 3 - The Perfect Prescription

Also, get Sound Of Confusion by the same band. They are both amazing records.

I know someone will bitch me out because they are too derivative of The Jesus and Mary Chain but check out Black Rebel Motorcycle Club. They're garage-infused space rock. Great shit.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Dimmukane on 17 Nov 2007, 19:36
Captain Beyond?

And to a lesser extent, some of the psychedelic/drone/stoner-rock stuff like Mammatus is probably up your alley.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: anditsdiscontents on 18 Nov 2007, 04:57
guys, THE CHURCH.
i always thought they were classic space rock.
under the milky way, metropolis, etc.

i mean, don't get me wrong, but i'm pretty sure having space on your album cover or in your band name or album/song title does not automatically make your band space rock. i thought it had to do with delay pedals and theremin and stuff.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Kai on 18 Nov 2007, 07:52
Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space, while having Space in the title, is pretty much definitely a space rock album. It is excellent Italian space-rocking.


Same goes for Spacemen 3 which is pretty much the same band anyway but not really
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: KharBevNor on 18 Nov 2007, 08:02
Being space rock has nothing to do with theremins and delay pedals, and everything to do with being Hawkwind.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Ballard on 18 Nov 2007, 10:59
Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space, while having Space in the title, is pretty much definitely a space rock album. It is excellent Italian space-rocking.

Italian? Aren't they all British?
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Kai on 18 Nov 2007, 13:11
I sort of took that Shellac album (Excellent Italian Greyhound) and just apply it to various things in day to day life because I am totally a loser/awesome like that.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Ballard on 18 Nov 2007, 14:43
Oh man, that is so win.

I can't believe I didn't get the reference.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: a pack of wolves on 18 Nov 2007, 15:38
Hawkwind and Parliament win the thread. But you might also check out some SikTh. But then they have elements of everything, it's just the easiest way to describe them is basically 'Space Metal.'

No, not a good idea. I'm going to refrain from going into detail on exactly how bad a band they are, but regardless of that Sikth are definitely not anywhere close to space rock.  Spacemen 3 and Hawkwind are definitely where to start, it's amazing how fresh and undated Hawkwind still sound.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: KharBevNor on 18 Nov 2007, 15:45
Yeah I'm really struggling to see how SikTh are space rock.

The way they don't have any songs about space, for instance.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: a pack of wolves on 18 Nov 2007, 16:06
I don't think that's a necessity to be a space rock band, I've always thought of it as a sonic thing rather than to do with lyrical preoccupation. But they don't really sound much like Hawkwind, to put it mildly.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: KharBevNor on 18 Nov 2007, 17:11
Well, what Space Rock bands would you name that have never, in lyrics, artwork, album titles or otherwise, made any reference to outer space?
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Johnny C on 18 Nov 2007, 17:31
I guess if you count the word "Druganaut" then Black Mountain are disqualified but other than that they pretty much fit the bill.

Khar, I don't like how my last three posts have been contrarian to yours. STOP HAVING OPINIONS
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Storm Rider on 18 Nov 2007, 17:51
Can we derail this thread into a discussion of how the new Ayreon album is out in two months and how I am totally stoked about that?
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: onewheelwizzard on 18 Nov 2007, 21:58
How has this thread gone on for this long without any mention of Acid Mothers Temple?  They're the best you can find.  And they've put out at least as many records as Hawkwind, so between the two you should be good for quite a long time.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Der Turm, der Leute frass on 19 Nov 2007, 01:51
How has this thread gone on for this long without any mention of Acid Mothers Temple?  They're the best you can find.  And they've put out at least as many records as Hawkwind, so between the two you should be good for quite a long time.

the problem about amt is that it's impossible to get an overview about their huge and totally messy discography, containing about 500 albums (tons of sideprojects included)

I still think of the Ozrics as the best space rock band
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: SusurrusIgnoramus on 19 Nov 2007, 06:34
i know they're not really space rock, but some times i can imagine Muse playing a concert on some intergalactic cruise ship or something.

it's probably just me being crazy though.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: StaedlerMars on 19 Nov 2007, 09:49
i know they're not really space rock, but some times i can imagine Muse playing a concert on some intergalactic cruise ship or something.

That's because they have a crazy light show.

Well, what Space Rock bands would you name that have never, in lyrics, artwork, album titles or otherwise, made any reference to outer space?

Yes, but there are plenty of bands that do have outer space references in their titles and aren't space rock, so classifying them by that doesn't really seem appropriate? (I'm trying to think of an example, but can't really come up with one).

I've gotten some Porcupine Tree(Tarquin's Seaweed Farm), and the album has been playing on repeat. It's amazing. Does sound a lot like the old Pink Floyd here and there.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Thrillho on 19 Nov 2007, 13:12
Hawkwind and Parliament win the thread. But you might also check out some SikTh. But then they have elements of everything, it's just the easiest way to describe them is basically 'Space Metal.'

No, not a good idea. I'm going to refrain from going into detail on exactly how bad a band they are, but regardless of that Sikth are definitely not anywhere close to space rock.  Spacemen 3 and Hawkwind are definitely where to start, it's amazing how fresh and undated Hawkwind still sound.

They probably are a terrible recommendation for this poster, yes - I just recommend them anyway because they entertain me. I'm going to choose to pass over your 'how bad a band they are' comment, but they have elements of space rock. They have spacey middle sections, the improvisational passages (although I think they have them mostly nailed down by the time they record) the prog, the druggy haze.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: pentaen on 19 Nov 2007, 16:59
Jefferson Starship Hur Hur....... :cry:
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Post by: carrotosaurus on 19 Nov 2007, 20:07
Cyann and Ben = Fantastic space rock.
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Post by: Joseph on 19 Nov 2007, 21:17
I guess if you count the word "Druganaut" then Black Mountain are disqualified but other than that they pretty much fit the bill.

I was fortunate enough to catch them at one of their rare live shows a month back, and it was incredible to say the least.  Great stage presence, completely captivating, and heavy, rocking music.  The concert can be streamed on the CBC Radio 3 website. (http://radio3.cbc.ca/)  Definitely a band of this genre well worth looking into.

Really excited for their new album as well.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: kivenkantaja on 20 Nov 2007, 01:01
Get more Hawkwind.

You also want to acquire this:

(https://www.insideoutshop.de/images/1469_large.jpg)

Get the two disc version, there's a Hawkwind medley with Dave Brock on vocals on the second disk.

Basically, what we're talking about is Hawkwind, and lots of it.

Aww damnit, I was going to use that one.

I have the inside scoop on that album, from the mouth of Arjwen Anthony Lucasson himself.

The entire album is about various sci-fi movies Arjwen enjoys.

EG, The Eye of Ra is about Stargate (confirmed by Arjwen), and upon my own listenings, Perfect Survivor is about Alien, Master of Darkness is about Star Wars.

The rest I havn't figured out yet/I forget which is which.  Point is.. it's nifty.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: KharBevNor on 20 Nov 2007, 01:07
    * High Moon - Outland
    * Songs of the Ocean - Star Trek IV
    * Master of Darkness - Star Wars, but more specifically Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
    * The Eye of Ra - Stargate
    * Sandrider - Dune
    * Perfect Survivor - Alien
    * Intergalactic Space Crusaders - Blake's 7
    * Starchild - 2001: A Space Odyssey, and 2010: The Year We Make Contact


On CD 2:

    * Spaced Out - Dark Star
    * Inseparable Enemies - Enemy Mine



It's all there in the Wikipedia article. That I wrote.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: kivenkantaja on 20 Nov 2007, 01:11
Nifty. I must check out them movies I didn't know...... and then listen to the songs.

Point is.. good album.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: StaedlerMars on 20 Nov 2007, 09:00

    * Starchild - 2001: A Space Odyssey, and 2010: The Year We Make Contact


Not really on topic, but I thought that movie was vastly overrated.

But I might give the songs a proper listen now.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: just-another-andy on 26 Nov 2007, 02:12
Muse are often refered to as sci-fi rock.

Listen to Space Dementia off their Origin of Symmetry album and you'll understand why.

It rocks  :-)
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: SilentJ on 26 Nov 2007, 05:15
He's not really rock by any stretch of the imagination, but every time I bring up John McLaughlin around my mom she calls to him a "space guitarist" and it's started to rub off on me.  I definitely dig it.
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Post by: Jackie Blue on 27 Nov 2007, 14:25
Speaking of Hawkwind:

It's really hard to get a hold of, but if you can, Nik Turner's live 1995 re-imagining of Space Ritual, featuring Genesis P-Orridge on one track, is insanely good.
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Post by: The Viz on 27 Nov 2007, 22:24
Rush's album 2112 is a really good space rock album, blends in quite  a bit of progressive rock in there as well.  If you haven't listened to it yet, you should.  Early Pink Floyd is cool too (though I far prefer their material from 71-79), their songs "Interstellar Overdrive" and "Astronomy Domine" are pretty much the best examples of space rock there are.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: onewheelwizzard on 27 Nov 2007, 22:25
Guys, 35007.  Also, Pharaoh Overlord.

For real.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Jumpman on 28 Nov 2007, 03:09
guys, THE CHURCH.
i always thought they were classic space rock.
under the milky way, metropolis, etc.

They were always influenced by space rock, but I wouldn't say those two songs were good examples of that influence.
Their 2004 album Forget Yourself however, is basically space rock.
Also, The Church are my favourite band by far.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: KharBevNor on 28 Nov 2007, 16:53
Guys, yun cannotm be fucking space rock unless you arew wirting songs about space. If you think a bands is space rock and they are not wrtiting songs about spavce then chances are they have just been taking ttooooo many fucking drugs. Yeah sure somethjijmes when you taken a drug youy  may feel like myou nare m,aybe journeying through the cosmos or viewing the structure of the ether or something but ewhat the fuck ever that is nhot space rock that is just nbeing a hippy 30 fucking ears too late
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Johnny C on 28 Nov 2007, 17:35
Defining a genre by lyrical content is almost inevitably ridiculous.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: onewheelwizzard on 28 Nov 2007, 17:43
Can purely instrumental rock be space rock?
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Post by: Dimmukane on 28 Nov 2007, 17:55
30 fucking ears too late
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: KharBevNor on 28 Nov 2007, 18:05
except johnny my dear sir we arw not debating in terms of lyrical content wea re debating in terms of the author/text/reader debate. Basically, what you are saying is that as a reader you can define space rock. Well you know explosions in the sky might sound pretty spacey to me. I mean, who can seperate the sky from space? Scientits?They have no dress sense and are orobably mostly furries. Hey I think Burzum are spoacey. BUT THEY ARE NOT SPACE ROCK. Basiccally you arte a fuck person.
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Post by: MusicScribbles on 28 Nov 2007, 18:21
Something tells me this isn't a drunk post, yet I feel like it should be.
Also, when did we get dinosaurs?  :-D
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Johnny C on 28 Nov 2007, 18:29
Basiccally you arte a fuck person.

hello sigquote
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Post by: Jackie Blue on 29 Nov 2007, 14:10
Well you know explosions in the sky might sound pretty spacey to me. I mean, who can seperate the sky from space? Scientits?They have no dress sense and are orobably mostly furries. Hey I think Burzum are spoacey. BUT THEY ARE NOT SPACE ROCK. Basiccally you arte a fuck person.

Khar for president.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Der Turm, der Leute frass on 29 Nov 2007, 14:17
Guys, yun cannotm be fucking space rock unless you arew wirting songs about space. If you think a bands is space rock and they are not wrtiting songs about spavce then chances are they have just been taking ttooooo many fucking drugs. Yeah sure somethjijmes when you taken a drug youy  may feel like myou nare m,aybe journeying through the cosmos or viewing the structure of the ether or something but ewhat the fuck ever that is nhot space rock that is just nbeing a hippy 30 fucking ears too late
noooooooooooooooooo


space rock needs no lyrics

so you can't classify a band as space-rock just because of their lyrics

THE OZRICS HAVE NO LYRICS
and they're the spaciest space-rock band ever

space is not supposed to have lyrics, it should be a druggy weird bubbly ether-ish weedy bunch of spacey tunes, with lots of colours


and this is in fact the definiton of space-rock
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Starless on 30 Nov 2007, 17:46
Yawning Man, Nebula, and Hawkwind are the only space rock bands I know off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Space Rock?
Post by: Jackie Blue on 30 Nov 2007, 18:05
I'd call Spacemen 3 "drone rock" more than "space rock", but if you like them, you should check out The Telescopes.