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Title: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: KvP on 10 Dec 2007, 21:38
By the people who brought you Oliver Stone's Alexander (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117977386.html?categoryid=13&cs=1).

They can't leave well enough alone, can they?
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: KharBevNor on 11 Dec 2007, 04:30
I think the biggest salient question here is: what's the point? For a start, Metropolis' central themes are not exactly relevant to the modern world, and to rework them to be so  would leave you with a film that more resembles a remake of Blade Runner. This leads us on to a second point, which is that Metropolis' visuals have been re-imagined by hundreds of movies already.
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: Lines on 11 Dec 2007, 08:05
NO! What the hell?! This is one of those movies that people should not even think about remaking.
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: MusicScribbles on 11 Dec 2007, 19:17
A question. Is Metropolis worth watching?
Wait, forget I typed that. That's a sentence ready to create fighting words.
What is Metropolis and what would you recommend it with?
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: KvP on 11 Dec 2007, 19:57
It's a real silent Expressionist classic, way ahead of its time as far as its art-deco visual design and effects go. It's also recognized by the UN as part of Germany's cultural heritage.

In answer to your question, I haven't seen it, so I don't know if it's an enjoyable film, per se, but it's certainly an important film. I hear that the ending is sort of anticlimactic.
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: Lines on 12 Dec 2007, 08:14
If you are interested in older films, especially ones that are more artistic, then yes, it is worth watching. If old, silent, bw movies drive you crazy, then you should just look it up to see what it's about to get the gist of it.
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: mberan42 on 12 Dec 2007, 08:15
A girl I dated in college sent me a Metropolis postcard once. It was awesome.

Still haven't seen the movie, though.
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: KharBevNor on 12 Dec 2007, 14:57
I first saw Metropolis on a large screen, when I was 10. Probably the first silent film I ever saw. Unbelievable film.

This is what you're missing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvLPZKh3hXs)
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: Lines on 12 Dec 2007, 19:32
It really is a beautiful film.
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: camelpimp on 12 Dec 2007, 19:44
When I watched it with my family, they could not stop commenting on how gay it was. Admittedly, by modern standards it is unusual how close some of the male characters seem. I know "that's how it was back them" and all, but if you're really immature, you'd have a field day with Metropolis.
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: De_El on 12 Dec 2007, 20:17
The big trouble with trying to watch Metropolis, which I'm surprised no one's mentioned yet, is that there's like 5 different versions, and not judst a little bit, these are significantly different music, runtimes, play speed, and not everyone agrees what the definitive version really is. This is the main reason I still haven't gotten around to watching it; I don't know what the hell one I'm supposed to get. Also, wasn't it already remade, kinda sorta?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_%282001_film%29
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: Tom on 12 Dec 2007, 20:21
Yeah, its been restored countless times. It's got a few paragraphs devoted to it in the article you linked. i searched when Kid Van Pervert started the thread.
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: KharBevNor on 13 Dec 2007, 00:04
The 123 minute digitally restored version is the most complete, and has the original soundtrack. I would say it's maybe more for film students and fans though: missing scenes are replaced with action cards, which significantly slows the pace, though it does make the plot a lot clearer. That is the version the trailer I posted is for. The 90 minute original American VHS release (also available on DVD) is the one most often critically discussed, and is probably the easiest to get hold of, not to mention probably the easiest to watch for someone accustomed to more modern films. All versions that I know of play too fast: in the original US release in the 20's they cranked up the projector speeds by maybe as much as 10 frames a second as a cheap way to cut the films run-time down, and this seems to have been maintained to some extent in every subsequent version, probably because no one actually knows the speed at which the original was cranked. It's surprisingly hard to determine without a soundtrack. Not to mention that running the film at 16 or 18 fps would make it almost unbearable to most modern tastes.

I don't think that the 'closeness' of male characters has so much to do with changing social norms (though this is a future viewed through the lense of Weimar Germany) as it has to do with the exaggerated expressionistic acting style used throughout, similiar to Nosferatu or The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari. Every emotion is over-emoted; its an extension of stage acting techniques of the time, and also probably has something to do with the relatively low fidelity of cameras of the time for detail, combined with the heaviness of the make-up everyone is wearing.
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: dr.sangaygupta on 13 Dec 2007, 17:54
By the people who brought you Oliver Stone's Alexander (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117977386.html?categoryid=13&cs=1).

They can't leave well enough alone, can they?

NOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: Clobbersaurus on 15 Dec 2007, 21:21
a part of me says ARGLE BARGLE NO, but another part of me doesn't mind it so much....

but if i hear "Will Smith" in the credits, i'm going to kill... babies.... and puppies.... maybe some old ladies.
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: Ravenbomb on 18 Dec 2007, 00:43
The people who did AKIRA already re-made it. It was good.
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: KvP on 18 Dec 2007, 02:10
The anime and the film are completely unrelated.
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: Ravenbomb on 18 Dec 2007, 02:35
Except the name and the general plot. Sure, it's not a strictly faithful remake, but neither was the Dawn of the Dead remake.
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: Jackie Blue on 18 Dec 2007, 07:40
The anime and the film are completely unrelated.

Er, no?  The anime was inspired by the original and has the same general plot.  That's not "completely" unrelated.

Plus, it's a damn great anime.

I'll be honestly surprised if the "official" remake is much closer to the original.
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: öde on 18 Dec 2007, 09:25
Thanks for mentioning the anime - I'd forgotten whether it was any good or not. I guess I'll watch it again now.
Title: Re: "Metropolis" set to be remade
Post by: Ravenbomb on 18 Dec 2007, 10:22
The scene at the end with the Ray Charles song is one of my favorite pieces of animation.