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I searched for a thread on this and didn't find one, so here goes. Alton Brown is a god amongst mortals, and is easily my favorite celebrity chef/food network person. As a poor college student I can't to afford the DVDs, but I've got all the episodes on my computer, although I did buy one of his books. Also due to my aforementioned impoverished state, I have been unable to try out as many of his recipes as I would like to, but the ones I have tried have worked out really well. I had especially good results with the beef jerky, which was some of the best jerky I've ever had.
Anyone else a fan of the show? If so, share your experiences with recipes of his that you've made yourself!
Also, this guy (http://youtube.com/user/LikeTheHat) has added the first 8 seasons or so on youtube.
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If high school chemistry teachers taught like Alton Brown, I might have passed that class the first time around.
I generally appreciate what he does. He's by no means an amazing chef, but he's carved out a niche for himself and his genuine, home-grown approach to cooking makes him unique amongst a celebrity line-up of glamorized knife-wielding demi-gods. I'm more prone to try and recreate a dish by his instructions than by anyone else's, simply because he eliminates a lot of the useless, outdated methods that the dinosaurs of the culinary world swear by. He makes good food in the most efficient way possible and he's interesting to listen to.
In terms of television quality, this is accomplishing quite a lot.
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I like Alton Brown, I like Alton Brown a lot. Him and Achewood are responsible for getting me interested in cooking.
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I love Alton Brown and Good Eats. Since I started watching Good Eats, I have found myself questioning the usefulness of kitchen gadgets that catch my eye. "Is this a multitasker or not?"
Also, fried macaroni and cheese.
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Just started watching it. Really dig that he gets into the science aspect of everything.
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I used to totally -hate- watching Good Eats, but then once I got past some of the quirky camera angles and weird costumes, I really like the show! He knows what he's talking about and makes cooking simple and -fun-.
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I love Alton Brown! I find the whole concept of scientific cooking fascinating. It makes me want to actually make things. I don't, but he makes me WANT to.
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Is there anyone who DOESN'T like Alton Brown?
Except for my roommate, who gets irate when I mention that he's cooking something wrong according to Alton Brown.
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Professional chefs don't like Alton Brown. Granted, professional chefs don't like much of anyone on the Food Network.
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He also does a terrific job commentating for Iron Chef America.
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As another poor person, I've learned that watching Good Eats (or almost any cooking show) can be less torture than one thinks, because it inspires me to do more than just throw stuff on a soft tortilla shell, sprinkle cheese over it, nuke, and then eat.
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I don't really blame the pro chefs for not liking much of what's on food network, but I think that's simply just an inevitable consequence of gearing shows towards people who aren't self-described foodies and the limitatins of a half hour to an hour format. Sandra Lee hardly cooks at all and Rachael Ray in particular is rather notorious for her simple dishes that often times skip easy but somewhat time consuming steps that could really improve the meal just to meet the self-imposed time constraints on her show. I rather like Alton Brown, but a big part of that is because his show doesn't aspire to be anything more than it is. He's far from the greatest cook out there and he readily admits that on the show, in interviews and in his books. But there's an awful lot of stuff out there that cook books and cooking shows never bother to explain the reasoning behind. Any show can tell you how to cook something, but only Alton is happy to assume (correctly) that my dumb ass doesn't have a chance in hell of applying that information to anything without him spelling out WHY I should do what he tells me to.
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Alton Brown is one of the top five people I would love to sit down with to pick his brain. I don't really know who the other four are, but I know he'd be in the top five. I've been heavily considering going to some kind of night culinary school for a while now and Alton just inspires me to do that so much more. I'm afraid to get a DVR simply because I know it would get filled up with Good Eats and Iron Chef and whatever else he does and I wouldn't have room for anything else... and that seems to defeat the purpose of having a DVR.
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Not really. The purpose of a DVR is to fill it up with things you want to watch instead of having to sit through things you don't want to watch if they're on during your TV watching hours.
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I enjoy watching Good Eats on occasion, and I think he does a wonderful job on Iron Chef, but I'm not entirely impressed with him overall. Usually he does very well, but there are moments in everything he does that seem extraordinarily strange or awkward to me, and it hurts my opinion of him.
I won't turn him off if he's on, but I won't eagerly seek him out, either.
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Professional chefs don't like Alton Brown. Granted, professional chefs don't like much of anyone on the Food Network.
I enjoy nothing more than Anthony Bourdain ripping on Rachel Ray.
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I enjoy nothing more than *anyone* ripping on Rachel Ray.
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Ironically, Bourdain had a Food Network show (called A Cook's Tour) that never took off before No Reservations based on the same premise.
Not to say he's not one of my favorite chefs and his book is fucking A.
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Haha, yeah. They've started replaying it Tuesday nights at 10.
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Yeah I've watched the last two episodes. Pretty good, but there's an unnatural lack of his swearing. Silly PG Food Network.
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I'm pretty sure if there was a show that was him just sitting there drinking and smoking for an hour, I'd watch it.
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Isn't that what No Reservations is more or less? That man is my hero.
I love Alton Brown, and even got my sister (who used to hate him) to buy his cookbook (I have both) and now she loves him too. Great Story, right?
Me and my friends used to have a joke about how Rachael Ray was a goddess and how we lamented that she was getting married. Her food isn't any better than I can make and she's the corniest person on Earth. and 40dollars a day? Are you fucking kidding me? When travelling I spend like 10 bucks a day on food, the budget is only there to try and take away from the fact that its like all of the other stupid fucking food tour shows out there, and she could take a lesson from the fact that people like Bourdain actually bring character to the show and make it unique.
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Don't forget that it looks like she's a shitty tipper. :-D
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ha
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Guys, last night I turned on Food Network and Dinner: Impossible was on and so i decided to watch it until I went to bed because I enjoy it even though Robert Irvine is a dick. But as soon as it ended there was an episode of Good Eats, so I kept watching. Then more Good Eats. Then more fucking Good Eats. It was crazy late before I could sleep.
Fucking Food Network.
The end.
Moral of the story is that Food Network is one of the best channels ever.
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Ugh I really dislike Robert Irvine.
OK fuckers, fess up, how many of you dearly love Paula Deen and wish she would adopt you as a grandson?
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OHMIGOD! Paula Dean is like my friggin' IDOL! I LOVE THE WAY SHE COOKS! My friend and I were watching her make a salmon dish with honey and strawberries and all kinds of stuff. I kid you not: She grabs a regular spoon and says, "You'll need about two tablespoons of honey" AND OVER LOADS IT with honey, so she ended up with more like 5 tablespoons in there. THe woman is not afraid of food.
My favorite recipie was, I think, her Grilled cheese with mayo instead of butter to grill it. It was crazy. She cares absolutely nothing about wether her food is healthy or not, just so long as it is friggin' delicious...and it -always- looks good. Even the dishes with ingredients I don't like (like fish) always look good enough to at least sample.
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I dunno, I think she puts too much butter and mayo on to a lot of things; I'm pretty big at having a good balance in my meals and there's a lot of "comfort foods" out there I don't particularly care for. I've become absolutely convinced by the way that mayo is just a white person thing.
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Someone's been watching a little too much Undercover Brother..
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Mayo is a delicious addition to many dishes and sandwiches
And if I only think that 'cause I'm white, well so be it.
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Someone's been watching a little too much Undercover Brother..
Never seen it. My mother's mexican; we just never really ate mayo growing up. We stuck to avocado and the rare bit of sour cream. Mayonesa is OK, I guess, but I'm not really fond of that either. It takes more than lime to give that stuff any flavor as far as I'm concerned.
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Paula Deen is firmly on my "cannot stand" list with Emeril and Rachael Ray.
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Yeah, what Ozy said.
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Paula Deen is firmly on my "cannot stand" list with Emeril and Rachael Ray.
Aw man. I <3 Emeril. I think watching Emeril Live was what got me into the whole "hey, cooking can be fun!" thing.
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I think have one of his dvd sets I forget which one it is, but when I get the chance I always watch his show.
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a salmon dish with honey and strawberries
WHAT THE FUCK, AMERICA.
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I really enjoy The Essense of Emeril, but I hate Emeril Live. I don't want to be wow'd and bam'd and have some band play while I watch some dude cook. I just want to learn how to cook the dish without any showmanship.
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Good Eats perfectly combines humor, food, and knowledge. It is a trifecta of awesomeness.
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Okay, had Alton Brown's version of sauerbraten for dinner tonight. You marinate this shit for four days, then you cook the meat in the oven for four hours and a ground up gingersnap cookies to the marinade to create the -=best=- gravy I have ever tasted in my life. ITS BEEF AND COOKIE GRAVY. I think I could put it on anything, of which I did in fact put in on all of the vegetables that went with the sauerbraten. I think it would even taste good topped on ice cream. There are no words to decribe how much I loved this gravy. Oh man.
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I've seen that episode, but I had never really heard of sauerbraten before so the whole dish sounded kinda weird to me, but I might have to try it now. I do really want to try the grilled romaine stuff he made in that same episode, it looks really tasty.
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ITS BEEF AND COOKIE GRAVY.
WHAT THE FUCK, AMERICA.
The more I think about it, the more I realise that the terrifying food is the main reason why I'm kind of reluctant to go to America any time soon.
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Beef and cookie gravy sounds weird, but if Alton Brown says it is good, I am faithful that it is.
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I <3 food network - probably because it's one of the only channels out there that my entire extended family is content to watch.
Alton Brown is about the best thing on the station, though he does have a habit of making me feel guilty for not griding my own spices and actually enjoying processed cheese.
I also am not one of the people who has the foresight to prepare a Thanksgiving turkey by soaking it in brine for a week and a half, or what have you. I therefore don't typically use his recipes. I do enjoy the oven camera, though. I also want all his kitchen gadgets, though, as established, I would get very little use out of them.
Beef and cookie gravy is just odd enough to be one of those life-altering foods (or condiments, I suppose). I must try it. Now.
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ITS BEEF AND COOKIE GRAVY.
WHAT THE FUCK, AMERICA.
To be fair, they're gingersnaps. I can see how beef, sugar, molasses and ginger would be good in conjunction - possibly a bit rich but still tasty. And I don't see a problem with salmon, honey and strawberries any more than I see a problem with pork and applesauce.
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it's true. The gravy isn't ultra sweet, and really it isn't like there are just chunks of cookie in it. The flour from the cookies act like a thickener and since gingersnaps aren't ultra-sweet anyway it doesn't give it an overpoweringly sweet flavor. It's really all about bringing out all of the other flavors. It's really just like a brown gravy with ginger and molasses, extremely good.
It was pretty damn rich though, but its not as if it was chocolate chip cookie dough gravy or something truly wierd.
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I love Alton Brown. He is kind of like the Bill Nye of the food world. I really enjoy his show, if only for the fact that he genuinely enjoys food and is actually educational about the particular food item he is working with. I appreciate that he has an amazing storage of food knowledge. I aspire to be so knowledgeable.
On the other hand I hate Paula Dean. She is obnoxious...almost as much so as Rachel Ray. Both of them are like watching train wrecks--it is really awful but you keep watching just to see if it is possible it could get any worse. It always does.
And mayonnaise = the nastiest thing on the planet. Have you ever made mayonnaise. It is not pleasant. I will acknowledge that there are a few things that work with mayonnaise, but I think that, particularly in paula's cooking, it is used entirely too much.
I also believe someone mentioned No Reservations. Please, please, please discard that movie and see the German film that they ripped off, Mostly Martha. It is significantly less awful.
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Oh, don't worry; people meant the cable program hosted by Anthony Bourdain, an infinitely entertaining man who actually comes across as shockingly humble in some of his interviews, which tends to surprise his critics, since he's hardly afraid to take people to task for caring more about schtick than cooking.
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Yeah, we meant the dude that pretty much gets paid to travel and drink himself silly.
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Oh...well then I am fine with that. In fact, I want that job.
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Alton has definitely inspired me to cook, I've done a few of his recipies and tweaked a few, like his cheesecake recipe I changed a little. I really want to try making my own mayonaise, when he made it it looked so much better than the stuff at the stores.
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We watched this in cooking class today..
I want him to be my father.
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I have no idea how often people swing back into this forum, but WTH...
I AM a professional chef and I love Alton Brown. If ya wanna learn how to cook, you need space in your brain for techniques, not space on your shelves for recipes. Alton, (Who, btw, will be the first person to describe himself as a cook, not a chef) and the other real chefs- Mario, Flay (when he's not mugging for the camera), Emeril (Essence of, NOT Live), and to a slightly lesser extent, recipe slaves like Dean and the Barefoot Contessa- were really trying to invigorate the passion for cooking, not the fad of following recipes.
Most of the programming on the network is not about cooking so much as personalities.
I wanna be Alton Brown when I grow up
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Alton Brown is just pretty dang cool. My dad's a bigger fan than I am- for Christmas, he got a salt cellar, an AB cookbook, and an apron that read "Death to the Uni-taskers!" :-)
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Alton Brown is my favorite Food Network chef. I've learned how to make countless dishes by watching the episode, sans recipe, just because the way he talks about it makes so much sense. I owe my cooking expertise to him.
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I actually did make the Thanksgiving turkey, and it was totally worth the effort!
Also, the city ham is delightful. As is the duck.
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Go to the Food Network website and look for Alton's recipe for french toast. Honestly, he made me like french toast. It is holy yum.
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You mean you didn't like french toast before?
Heathen!
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No, no I did not. I thought it tasted like egg-soaked bread. Custard-soaked bread is more my thing :D
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I actually did make the Thanksgiving turkey, and it was totally worth the effort!
Also, the city ham is delightful. As is the duck.
Oh, yesh. Me and my brother made that turkey for.... Christmas. And yes, totally worth the effort. Good enough to make up for me stepping in a big puddle of the brine on the kitchen floor.. and then falling.. and then having to clean it up. Oh, but the turkey.. mmm.
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He gave my family the best recipe for standing rib roast ever. It's a Christmas Eve staple at our house now.
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Alton Brown is just pretty dang cool.
Eddie Izzard paraphrase FTW! :-)
Like almost everyone else in this thread, I love watching Alton Brown's shows. He's brilliantly entertaining and educational... love it! They used to show repeats every weeknight at 11pm - I wish they still did...
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Feasting On Asphalt - that show is just all kinds of amazing! Even aside from all the amazing travels and diners they visit, watching Alton and his crew interact with each other is just awesome.
I just REALLY, REALLY wish he hadn't gotten involved with Iron Chef America. There is absolutely nothing good about that show - not one damn thing. There is almost nothing in the entire world that could make me watch an entire episode of Iron Chef America. I mean, the guy playing the Chairman is the bad guy from Cradle 2 The Grave, for Pete's sake! Ugh.
My hatred for Iron Chef America basically comes from the fact my whorish love of the original Iron Chef. I love that show SO much - it just has a style and grace that Iron Chef America will never have. The look, the style, the interaction of the commentators, Kaga's rambling introductions... everything was interesting and imminently watchable about that show. Even the competition itself was just more engaging. Often times American television will co-opt something interesting from abroad, bastardize it, and air it - this is just another example.
Also, Bobby Flay. Any show that features Bobby Flay need to be drenched in kerosene and burned. Then, burned again, then smashed, then destroyed.
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Today's secret ingredient is ....
SOYLENT GREEEEENUUUU!!!!
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I like Iron Chef America. In the beginning, it was really dumb, but it's grown into its own thing like the American Office vs the British Office.
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I mean, the guy playing the Chairman is the bad guy from Cradle 2 The Grave, for Pete's sake! Ugh.
yeah, but he also played the good guy in Brotherhood of the Wolf. And that movie is great. Honestly, I really enjoy Iron Chef America. The chairman's over-the-top attitude is funny, and the commentary is great. I can't imagine anyone else doing the commentary with the same effectiveness as AB. The floor reporter dude whose name I can't remember, however, never seemed to serve a distinct purpose besides giving Alton less work, as he's not all that entertaining.
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I think the quality of any Iron Chef America episode depends greatly on the particular iron chef. Not even Alton Brown can make me watch something with Bobby Flay in it for more than 30 seconds, but Morimoto is as good as he was on the original, and Batali is always entertaining. Aside from being kinda hot, Cat Cora doesn't really hold my attention.
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Good Eats is a fun show; I like that format better than 'typical' cooking shows like "Rachel Ray Babbles for a Solid Half Hour".
Alton Brown is to cooking what Bill Nye is to science.
(Or however similes are supposed to be written.)
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Alton Brown teaches you how to cook.
Rachel Ray teaches you how to warm up precooked meals.
Alton Brown is awesome.
Rachel Ray should be dragged out back and shot.
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Can we please stop talking about the devil's firstborn?
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Can we please stop talking about the devil's firstborn?
I agree. Let's stop mentioning Bobby Flay.
The only good thing about him is that his last name is exactly what I wish someone would do to him.
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I'm not quite sure what there is to hate about Bobby Flay.
Rachel Ray, on the other hand, is one of the most annoying human beings I've ever had the displeasure of listening to for half an hour.
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I wish she'd stop doing Dunks commercials. She's ruining a New England fast-food landmark!
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Bobby Flay is a pretentious cocksucker. I seriously want to punch him in the face.
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I wish she'd stop doing Dunks commercials. She's ruining a New England fast-food landmark!
It could be worse... Papa Gino's could hire her and she'd ruin two New England fast food landmarks! :-(
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Ehh. They could say they used toxins and I'd still eat their cheese breadsticks.
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As another poor person, I've learned that watching Good Eats (or almost any cooking show) can be less torture than one thinks, because it inspires me to do more than just throw stuff on a soft tortilla shell, sprinkle cheese over it, nuke, and then eat.
I was going to respond in this thread and then I realized costacide said what I was thinking for me.
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I've never really seen Bobby Flay as pretentious. He mostly just hits me as some vaguely annoying guy who barbecues a lot. Some good sauce suggestions here and there though.
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The thing about Bobby Flay is, as pretentious or annoying as you may find him, he at least is an actual chef and knows what the hell he's doing. He could very easily go into a restaurant and run a kitchen. Same goes for Emeril and Mario. Though I like them.
But these other "celeberty chefs" like Rachel Ray...fuck them. Though I have to give Ray the benifit of the doubt that she is the first to admit that she is not a professional chef. Still...fuck her.
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A friend of mine has an image of Rachel Ray being fired into the sun, Dr. Strangelove style, except she's forcably strapped onto the rocket.
It's pretty glorious.
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http://blog.ruhlman.com/ruhlmancom/2007/02/guest_blogging_.html
the part on Sandra Lee is the best. Pure evil.
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Still...fuck [Rachael Ray].
Hmmmm... given the chance? There was a time when I definitely would...but now I don't know.
I might still hit that.
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I also work in the restaurant industry (casual middle class dining wooooo...) so I can get behind the Food Network like nothing else. I actually only watch Lost on thursdays otherwise my tv is set to the food channel. Iron Chef america is watchable just because I love to see what they come up with, but Battali annoys me "Alright judges this is a roasted porrtabellloooo with somea parrrmisianooo rrrregianooo! I hope you enjoy it very much" I mean, I get it, you're Italian, but it's annoying. Flay is a putz, Cat Cora shouldn't even be there. They're all capable chefs, who create wonderful food, but like most chefs, have abrasive personalities. Alton Brown also annoys the living fuck out of me on that show, where as otherwise he seems to know whats goin on when it comes to makin food.
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I'm definetely an Anthony Bourdain gal, but I do love Good Eats. My mom was never really into cooking, and as a result I never really learned how to cook. He covers all of the stupid little stuff, which is really useful. I tried the french toast recipe also, and I can attest to it's glory.
Has anyone ever seen "Barefoot Contessa"? I always get this vibe that Ina Garten has no friends, it always makes me feel bad for her/obligated to watch the show. I think it has something to do with the horribly stilted conversations she has with her "friends" on the show.
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The guy has a stand mixer with flames airbrushed onto the sides.
I kindof want to have sex with him.
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I actually like Rachael Ray. She's never mean, and doesn't ever say anything really negative about a restaurants food, just critiques it a little. She never calls herself a chef, just a person who grew up in the kitchen of a big family. Sure she's a bit corny, but she's just trying to make people laugh. In real life, shes probably a real swell person.
On the other hand, I hate Sandra Lee. The heinous alcoholic bitch buys pre-made food, mixes it, and claims she made it. She makes cocktails as soon as possible, and is snokered by the end of the show.
Bobby Flay, is a narcissistic arrogant asshole, and probably beats off to furry porn.
Paula Dean, is also a big headed fuck. When her and Rachael Ray did a show together, she was a total bitch, and made fun of her the whole time, while Rachael was nothing but nice to her.
And I love Alton Brown for all reasons mentioned.
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Bobby Flay, is a narcissistic arrogant asshole, and probably beats off to furry porn.
I saw him battle one of the Japanese-series Iron Chefs once. Flay won, but instead of going over to shake his hand and be a gentleman and a sportsman about the whole deal, he just jumps up on the fucking counter in Kitchen Stadium and starts whooping and hollering like an asshole, and all the while the other guy (I think it was Sakai) was just like, "...all I wanted to do was shake his hand and congratulate him, and he shows not only disrespect for me, but for Kitchen Stadium."
tl;dr yeah Bobby Flay is a douchebag. If I'm ever rich and famous, I will ask to meet him just so I can deflate his ego.
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Bobby Flay, is a narcissistic arrogant asshole, and probably beats off to furry porn.
I saw him battle one of the Japanese-series Iron Chefs once. Flay won, but instead of going over to shake his hand and be a gentleman and a sportsman about the whole deal, he just jumps up on the fucking counter in Kitchen Stadium and starts whooping and hollering like an asshole, and all the while the other guy (I think it was Sakai) was just like, "...all I wanted to do was shake his hand and congratulate him, and he shows not only disrespect for me, but for Kitchen Stadium."
tl;dr yeah Bobby Flay is a douchebag. If I'm ever rich and famous, I will ask to meet him just so I can deflate his ego stab him.
I agree.
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Much love for Alton Brown. I really enjoy the cheesiness of his shows - I think it's what keeps it from a "know it all" voice. I've learned tons and even like the antics. Yeast sock puppets ftw. He really seems to love Iron Chef, too. I missed tonight's ICA episode and I'm sad. I really wanted to see Pim, since she was judging. (She has an awesome blog at http://chezpim.typepad.com/ )
Yeah, Bobby Flay's stunts were pretty disrespectful (the jumping up on the cutting board) and were all over the news in Japan. It was a match against Morimoto I think. He's married to an actor from Law and Order. I guess being a celebrity chef is hot?!? I just have no patience for him. I'd rather watch Rachel Ray than Bobby Flay. :-P
The Golden Clogs were pretty funny, re: Anthony Bourdain and the "Alton" award. http://sf.eater.com/archives/2008/02/22/sobewire_liveblogging_the_2008.php
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I really like how Alton Brown teaches some of the basics and how he improves on other methods. I have learned to cut up a chicken and create stock out of the leftovers, make ice cream and some dessert. The only other chef on the Food Network I like is Jamie Oliver, although he is a bit strange. I would like to see more shows like his.
Some hosts I have only come to respect after I have seen their biographies. Even though I still would not want to watch her show, I respect Sandra Lee. Both she and Rachel Ray really know how to capitalize on their success.
I do disdain Bobby Flay, especially after I saw his special. His battle against Morimoto was supposedly so intense that at the end, he was lifted onto his cutting board. This was seen as disrespectful, since some things are considered sacred in Japanese culture. I also dislike Guy Fieri and hate Emeril and the Feasty Boys (from the Travel Channel) with a passion.
Although I like Mario Batali, he wears Crocs. CROCS.
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I have no idea how often people swing back into this forum, but WTH...
I AM a professional chef and I love Alton Brown. If ya wanna learn how to cook, you need space in your brain for techniques, not space on your shelves for recipes. Alton, (Who, btw, will be the first person to describe himself as a cook, not a chef) and the other real chefs- Mario, Flay (when he's not mugging for the camera), Emeril (Essence of, NOT Live), and to a slightly lesser extent, recipe slaves like Dean and the Barefoot Contessa- were really trying to invigorate the passion for cooking, not the fad of following recipes.
Most of the programming on the network is not about cooking so much as personalities.
I wanna be Alton Brown when I grow up
I pretty much agree with everything you said. Agreeing so completely with someone rarely happens for me. I...I kind of feel like I should marry you now or something. ;)
P.S.
I wish I could like Flay more. But he is kind of makes an arse out of himself.
I wish she'd stop doing Dunks commercials. She's ruining a New England fast-food landmark!
Srsly. I hate going to Stop and Shop and seeing big ass Dunkies posters with her plastered on it. It was bad enough on the telly, but now I have to be reminded of her existence every time I need to run to the market.