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Fun Stuff => CLIKC => Topic started by: DavidGrohl on 15 Jan 2008, 15:30
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http://www.apple.com/macbookair/guidedtour/
Sooo . . what do you think?
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That's certainly pricey.
And ol' Steve can take his lack of a disc drive and shove it up his ass. He's certainly made it clear that he does not want my patronage.
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I agree . . although I don't use my DVD drive that much, it'd be annoying as hell to plug in a DVD drive just to watch a movie or install a program.
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Pretty sexy, but I got plenty of computers as it is.
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It's the program part that gets me. Steve probably isn't wrong when he says we'll soon have the ability to download movies and such with relative ease. But I'm primarily a gamer, and as a gamer, Apple can fuck right off (they always could, really). They were getting better, and now we've got to start using Direct2Drive or something. Blah.
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Eh, it's not like they don't have a ton of other options, even in the laptop market, for gamers. The Air is pretty obviously not meant to be a "gamer's" PC. It's meant to be super fancy-looking so you can impress everybody else at the coffee shop.
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That's certainly true. I just sort of resent Apple on principle these days (a rare and fantastic phenomenon, I know) I remember when Macs came with some pretty cool games, Spectre and the like. And I played Warlords from a floppy disc.
And if I really wanted to impress people, I'd show them my high school press pass, signed by Al Jourgensen. Oh yeah.
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Aside from the lack of an optical drive, it's pretty darn neat. The crazy trackpad is quite possibly the coolest thing I have ever seen in relation to computers.
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There should be a "Looks cool but I like games" option.
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If I can't view it without QuickTime, then screw it.
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Of course it's only in quicktime. It's on an apple website!
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Something tells me 98% of the posters in this particular subforum are waaaay outside the target market (and indeed the target market of any machine with integrated graphics) ;)
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Looks like it would make a nice paperwieght
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The problem is that the price range is outside of any market who will accept integrated graphics too.
Except for Mac whores.
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Well, mac whores have always been Apple's #1 customer base. I can see this appealing to more casual users with cash to burn though, much like the early iPod or iPhone- sure, it's expensive, but it's shiny and sleek and a Magic Box*.
"Magic Box" is basically Apple's main product line these days. You turn it on, it Just Works and you have no idea how (or ability to open it up and find out). Ipods, Iphone, iMacs, and now the Mac Air are all effectively Magic Boxes.
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jeph: eh, that's half true. One reason I like my macbook (non-air, of course) is that it's a lot easier to replace bits of than apple's previous laptops; the hard drive in particular.
The problem is that the price range is outside of any market who will accept integrated graphics too.
I have weird requirements of computers. The only resource intensive thing I do is compile and edit code, and I do a lot of that. Integrated graphics is a total nonissue for me (possibly an advantage, even, if it's more power efficient), but the 1.8" HDD is probably unusable. I can't wait for SSDs to come down in price.
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To me, you buy a mac to get a stable machine that's more intuitive and stable. That's how it's always been. This is more of the same- they're adding a bunch of the things from the iphone into a laptop. They're also charging enough that you could get a macbook and an iphone... so while mac's are a joy to use, they're still way too expensive to be worth it, and this only exacerbates the problem.
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Personally I cannot WAIT for the Mac Touch. Even though it'll be at least a year until we see it.
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To me, you buy a mac to get a stable machine that's more intuitive and stable. That's how it's always been. This is more of the same- they're adding a bunch of the things from the iphone into a laptop. They're also charging enough that you could get a macbook and an iphone... so while mac's are a joy to use, they're still way too expensive to be worth it, and this only exacerbates the problem.
See, I use a new iMac at work, and it's pretty much as unstable as the windows PC I run at home. Not that I want this to descend into some kind of Mac vs. PC thingy. Just sayin'.
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Macs vary a fair bit. I've had not a lick of trouble with my G5 or iBook or MacBooks, but my old 15" PowerBook G4 was hella issue-heavy.
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As with all computers, the faster it is -- the less problems it will have. Unless you drop it. Then it's your own fucking fault. :)
(I wonder if the Air could handle a 3.5 foot drop)
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As with all computers, the faster it is -- the less problems it will have. Unless you drop it. Then it's your own fucking fault. :)
(I wonder if the Air could handle a 3.5 foot drop)
It will float down to the ground like a feather. That's the rules.
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It would open up and fly.
Actually, for that price, it should do that anyways, and be able to pull a significant number of people airborne.
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also it should make me dinner.
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and get me laid.
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Oh, it can definitely do that last one.
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I picked the options "Mac's suck, yo!" just for the erroneous apostrophe.
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It certainly looks awesome, and it's pretty darn sexy, but personally, if I had that amount of money, I'd rather throw in a couple of hundred bucks extra and buy a MacBook Pro, or a MacBook (if a smaller screen size was an issue, and, ehm, I didn't already have one) and either save money or get an iPod touch/iPhone. It's just not worth it for me without an Ethernet-port (I know it can be bought externally), no optical drive (again, I know it can be bought externally), no FW-port etc, for that prize.
That being said; Awesome sleeve for the MacBook Air (http://www.manilamac.com/)
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Exactly. The reason I have no interest in it is I cannot just simply plug in all the other things I already use (like my external) that are not wirelessly accessible. The potential for being completely wireless is great, but if they want to really expand their market they need to make it more compatible with what is already there.
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I already have a MacBook. Sorry Apple. If I did get a new one, It'd be the Pro, anyway.
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So the only way other than a USB modem is to wirelessly connect to the interbutts which is about as bad as a USB modem for security. Nice. Obviously it is made for wireless offices and starbux but honestly there are better things to spend two grand on are there not? I only like stuff that is functional and I cannot see a use for this where nothing could do it better.
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What?
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I think he means that connecting to a router wirelessly is insecure for some reason. Not like Macs get many virii.
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The irony of the Mac commercials is that John Hodgeman is way hipper than the dude from Die Hard and whatever.
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The design is, in fact, a large portion of the mac functionality. Most people I've seen using macs (hipsters, that is) uses their laptops not necessarily because it's practical or better in terms of computer performance, but it conveys an image, and it does so very well - you're well off economically, you're a hip designer type person and the esthetical parts of what you buy is just as important to you as the function it's meant to carry out. It's a big part of what mac's been playing on all along - the mac/windows comparison commercials with the tie-guy and the hip guy display perfectly what they're is shooting for. I don't think any sane person would pick up an air if they were looking for a high performance computer, but for someone conscious about how they look while working (read: assholes) it's perfect.
Fuck me that is the best explanation of mac usage I have ever heard. I just couldn't comprehend wanting aesthetics > performance in computing. It makes no sense to me but what you just said makes PERFECT sense. As for wireless and usb modems it wasn't the point of viruses but more peopele accessing your junk one way or another which is easier to do with a pc connected wirelessly or by usb modem.
But yeah, hipsters going for looks over performance. Damn I feel silly now.
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It is possible to simply like/love the operating system as well - I can't really explain it in short right now, but I honestly do. Sure, it looks nice, but I wouldn't buy crap just 'cause it looks good. I "only" have a MacBook, but it's enough for my usage (some programming, a tiny bit of designing and lots of "regular" stuff) for now, and I love how the operating system and most of the programs seem a lot more...something. More integrated with each other? Better UIs? More..complete? I'm not quite sure how to explain it, but something like that. Sure, it has its flaws, but everything does.
Still doesn't mean I like the MacBook Air, though.
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you know who else used macs?
the NAZIS
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Oh shit. He's got us there.
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Hey, I'm not saying all mac users are assholes - my mother has a MacBook Pro, and I use it all the time when writing
Your mom is an asshole, though.
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Sorry, I just can't help myself.
http://www.techdip.com/mac-vs-pc-vs-linux-ads/ (http://www.techdip.com/mac-vs-pc-vs-linux-ads/)
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But... Mac is based on the Linux kernel!
And honestly, Ubuntu and such at least look indistinguishable to me versus Mac.
And it's free and not tied into a certain make or model of PC. If you want a Mac just get Linux instead.
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Honestly, I think I am the perfect example of why people buy macs.
Yesterday, I bought a laptop bag that I KNEW was too small for my laptop, because it looked nice.
I'll buy shoes that are two sizes too big if they're shiny enough.
I have a macbook pro. I'm constantly keeping an eye out for things that'll make it look a little less dull. As sleek and shiny as they are, I've always thought the recent macs are boring kinda. Remember the brightly coloured clamshell notebooks? Those were nice. I'm constantly changing it's appearance through stickers and faceplates.
This is the image conscious part of being a mac owner.
The second part stems from crippling self doubt and being incredibly accident prone.
See, I have broken countless PCs by deleting things I shouldn't have, installing programs from evil corporations, accidentally clicking ads on sendspace, so so many reasons.
I have TRIED to damage my mac in this way. It is completely impossible. That's fantastic. They're idiot proof. I couldn't break my macs software if I TRIED.
They're pretty tough too, and the magsafe power cable is a godsend, I have damaged countless electrical items because they didn't have that feature.
In short: Macs are for self conscious people who feel destined to fuck up everything they lay their hands on.
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But... Mac is based on the Linux kernel!
And honestly, Ubuntu and such at least look indistinguishable to me versus Mac.
And it's free and not tied into a certain make or model of PC. If you want a Mac just get Linux instead.
Every statement of fact in this post is incorrect except "free". Congratulations.
Specifically, OSX is based on a heavily modified mach micro-turned-monolithic kernel with bits of the userland stuff from FreeBSD, NetBSD, and others. The entire layer above that (and much of the kernel/*nix userland) is either Apple-created, proprietary, or both. Definitely no Linux code in there (it'd be in violation of the license, for one thing).
Also, driver issues have plagued Linux for quite a while, so it is definitely worth doing some research on the particular make & model of machine you buy for it.
As for the opinions in this thread, I'm pretty useless for discussion of those, as I'm about as far from the stereotypical Mac user as you can get; I'd beige box if I were interested in desktops, and I picked my system almost entirely on non-aesthetic things, such as:
APIs: This is honestly the biggest one for me. Cocoa isn't available for any other platform, and I am *so spoiled* by it. Same goes for WebKit. Only recently have the Qt and GTK+ ports of WebKit even begun to approach maturity.
Applications: No Adium? Bzzt. No Photoshop (without hacks like WINE)? Bzzt. Flex Builder delayed a ton? Bzzt, can't do my job effectively. No Shark or dtrace? Not a deal-breaker, but *ouch*
Usability: I'm unaware of any other system with OSX-style app bundles, or *working* pervasive drag & drop, or any of the thousands of other things (from big to almost unnoticeably small) that I've become accustomed to. Things like the magnetic cables and latches Spinless mentioned also fall in this category.
Community: I hack on Adium and WebKit, and they are the two most awesome open source communities I've ever found. I'll pass on the KDE vs Gnome battles, or Debian's idiotic IceWeasel stuff, or the Pidgin team's attempts to alienate anyone who ever speaks with them. There are exceptions to this, of course (hooray telepathy.freedesktop.org!), but in general I've found Linux OSS communities to have a lot more infighting, and a lot more concern about license purity and less about getting actual work done.
So ends one programmer's attempt to point out that there are actual reasons beyond "ooh shiny" :/
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Oh, and what attempt to restore sanity would be complete without a link to http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/A/All-hardware-sucks--all-software-sucks-.html ?
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Yeah, I take the drag and drop features of OSx for granted. If I want to open a file with a particular program? Drag and drop. Eject something? Drag and drop. Or push the all-purpose eject button. Installing a new application? Often as simple as drag and drop. It's ridiculously efficient.
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http://www.apple.com/macbookair/guidedtour/
Sooo . . what do you think?
Jim shaves his balls daily. I am willing to bet large sums of money on this assuming someone cares to drop by his "Apple retail shop" and find out . . . Watching him give his Macbook Air the shocker has been the most fulfilling moment of my life to date.
As for the product, prejudging a product pre-release is a chump's game. I'll be interested to see how this gets tested and reviewed, running on the assumption that the $100 optical drive is pretty much necessary (the remote drive feature strikes me as awkward and infeasible). I know a lot of geeks who get really excited when they hear "solid state" hard drive for obvious reasons, although in this day and age 64GB sounds like an ipod rather than a notebook . . . .
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Macs aren't JUST about the looks. PCWorld named the highest end MacBook Pro, the fastest Vista running machine. Shelling out the money for it is another matter, though. I'm with Jeph, I'm waiting on the iTouch, myself. <--- See what I did there?
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I like the phrase "asshole machine."
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but the Air is essentially an asshole machine.
Given that this subcompact notebook sells between $2000 and $4000, has one usb port and no DVD drive, it has about as much relevance to the vast majority of the people on this forum as, say, a fractional ownership in this private jet. (http://www.gulfstream.com/g550/) However, if you're curious, the Wall Street Journal says that it's beautiful, a little inconvenient on long haul economy flights because of the size of the screen, and a pain in the ass if you want to play DVDs on the plane or indeed do anything with a DVD outside of your hotel room.
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I would buy a Mac if they combined multitouch technology with this technology (http://www.virtual-laser-keyboard.com/) to effectively create a fully functional portable computer that's just a touch sensitive screen with a cover. Like some sort of unholy PDA/laptop hybrid.
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Hmm, one USB drive? I knew Macs tended to be simple, but 2 is generally considered minimum standard. 1 for the mouse and 1 for the ipod. Or the external drive and the ipod, if you're into the touchpad thing.
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One usb port seems odd, you couldn't even power and external laptop drive off that...
Given the poor storage space it seems a bit futile but as has been said repeatedly, this is for the ultramobile and the ultrahip with too much money.
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I'm just saying that if I had more money than brains I would definitely get one.
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You can buy a usb hub thing which would solve the problem.
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Also what is the cooling comprised of? I want to know this because if they can keep stuff cool in that I want them to make a desktop HSF with the same technology, I doubt they can beat my tuniq tower.
Also I just googled for some shots of open macs, it is modular, souless and the boards look like something I took out of an amstrad :(
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I would buy a Mac if they combined multitouch technology with this technology (http://www.virtual-laser-keyboard.com/) to effectively create a fully functional portable computer that's just a touch sensitive screen with a cover. Like some sort of unholy PDA/laptop hybrid.
Apple's been working on a tablet PC for the past couple years. I fully expect it to be mindblowing when they finally release it.
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Apple's been working on a tablet PC for the past couple years. I fully expect it to be really fucking expensive when they finally release it.
Fix'd.
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What's the point of getting a tiny laptop if all the other stuff you need for it adds up to the mass taken up by a regular laptop in the first place?
With something this portable, what do you really *need* for it anyway? The only thing I can possibly think of is the disc drive to play DVDs with, but who takes DVDs out with them, expecting to find the time to watch them on a tiny laptop screen?
True, I have an iPod. True, I download a lot of movies with the intention of watching them on the bus. But I can spend up to 4 hours on a bus whenever I take one, so this is understandable.
I like the Macbook Air. It has one port, which is all I need to doc my iPod should I ever need to. Anything else I would possibly need is something that I wouldn't have if I was the type of person to use this laptop anyway.
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this computer is built for wi-fi capability more so than any specific market of consumer, no matter how they try to market it. i think that its capabilities with wi-fi are great, and i can only hope they'll incorporate that into their other models in the future. however, i just don't see how the overall losses justify the cost.
You can buy a usb hub thing which would solve the problem.
imo, anything external more than a usb key on this device completely makes the purchase of this computer to be unjustifiable, considering how they are marketing it.
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really, considering that the macbook line has never been particularly bulky in the first place, the argument regarding the portability of this notebook is completely moot against mac notebooks. if you were to compare the macbook air to pc laptops, you might have a valid argument.
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You can buy a usb hub thing which would solve the problem.
Nah, it wouldn't. You still only get the same amount of power out of a hub as you do a single port so you couldn't power a portable drive off it, as far as I know anyway.
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I am fairly excited. I was just contacted about editing the school's video yearbook. Thusly, I get to spend one class period every day editing. And that's it, no other responsibilities but editing something the whole school will see.
The best part? The computer I'm editing on is a fresh out of the box Mac Pro. God damn is that thing spiffy.
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Man. I was in charge of video yearbook for my High School. We used a fucking tape editor. This makes me feel old.
Then again, I also helped work on another school's and we were able to at least use Avid for that one.
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I guess I haven't been around mac users enough to really understand the raging prejudice expressed towards them on the majority of the internet. I got a macbook pro for use at college, and I really enjoy it. No, I can't play many games on it. However, I can write all my papers, surf the web, and edit photos just fine. Plus, for some reason, my professors are completely enamored with iMovie presentations over powerpoint presentations; don't ask me why. It is, overall, a pretty solid piece of equipment.
Also, why is a concern for aesthetics something to be ashamed of? Unless I am compromising all parts of the computer that are worth having (which clearly I am not), then I don't see too much of a problem. I like the way that the macbooks look. Actually I like them enough that I endure the commentary of passersby. You guys and ladies would apparently be pretty surprised at the amount of comments that are "Oh, you have a macbook. Did you get it because it's shiny?" instead of, "Hey that's a nice looking laptop." Now, don't get me wrong, I didn't buy my laptop so that other people could enjoy the way it looks, I bought it for functionality. The fact that I find it visually pleasing is just a bonus. But generally (this word here is key) people who dislike macs are PC users, so the most common reaction that I receive, ironically, is that because I own a mac I must be a douche bag of epic proportions. Not that of a young wealthy hipster who is probably into design and maybe programming. Not that those two things are mutually exclusive. Maybe I just don't look like a wealthy hipster.
Now, as far as the macbook air is concerned, I can see it being extremely marketable to a very small demographic. For instance, my dad spends a lot of time on the road (or more likely in the sky, on a plane) for business trips. He has a small laptop (probably a dell but I could be wrong... Toshiba perhaps?) that he has removed the disc drive from and added an extra battery to. It is the smallest laptop that he could find. He got it because it is small. But my dad is also really into photography, and is constantly annoyed at the amount of time he spends editing his photos. (On a side note, this is probably partly because I consistently taunt him based on the speed I can edit photos on my Mac) I think the Macbook Air would be a pretty good fit for a man who does this much traveling. He literally uses his computer for making powerpoints and editing photos. That's it.
The amount of hate towards macs seems to me about as backwards as buying one to play games on. Although, I will definitely agree with the opinion that the Ads they have on TV unnecessarily point out the differences between macs and PCs while being completely biased, and often times making me want to hangout with the easygoing PC guy who doesn't care that he is being ripped on instead of the overly aggressive mac dude who secretly pisses me off even though I've seen a couple of his movies that I really enjoyed "Accepted" was one that had some funny parts I guess longest run-on ever.
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Like Catfish_Man stated earlier, Mac OS X was built off of the Mach kernel, and FreeBSD (not so much NetBSD, though there is traces). You can, even though there is laws against it, see some traces of linux coding in it as well. I imagine that the Mac OS X interface was influenced by XFCE and Compiz. Not saying that they actually stole from linux, just influenced by it.
The layer between the *nix based, and what we see to be OS X is actually Steve Job's old company's OS, NEXT Software. It is a modified version of it, but it is the base of Mac OS X.
As for uses of Macs, there are plenty. This is odd coming from me since I grew up a Mac hater, always using FreeBSD and Gentoo Linux. However, as of the release of OS X, I have become somewhat of a fan. It is a wonderful programming environment, and what I'd like to call a "stable *nix distro". As for gaming, if you use BootCamp with Windows, its one of the better gaming machines I've seen. Part because It's good hardware, and part because Apple actually took a decent amount of effort into makeing really stable Windows drivers.
Mac OS X, and just Apple machines in general are becoming very useful machines.
As for the MacBook Air, I'm not a big fan. Not enough power for gaming, and with its processor, wouldnt be able to compile in the time I want it to, nor run with the power I need. Nice for casual users though. (Yes, who have 1800 laying around.. (for the post below me))
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Casual users who have 1800 bucks just lying around.
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yea see the macs are good for video/photo editing and design stuff but i'm a gamer and i like my game support, so i stick with windows...
as far as the air goes...i would only get it, assuming i ever wanna spend that much on a computer, is for the extreme amount of sex appeal i would get from it....i would open the folder that it comes in and sex appeal would just pour out everywhere....
i'm sick of those mac vs pc commercials also, i would like to see one where all the versions of vista come and just beat the crap out of mac, it would be funny...don't get my wrong i don't have anything against macs, i'm just saying what goes around comes around...
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The air, frankly, is crap. You have to buy an optical drive for it. If for some ungodly reason you use more than one usb connection, you have to buy a hub. If you can't connect to a wireless network, you have to buy and external ethernet adaptor to plug into your hub that has your optical drive, 10 key and possibly mouse attached.
Apple should just tack on another $500 and give you all that "extra" necessities.
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Macs have a lot of cool features, particularly if you're into photography and recording music (both of which apply to me,) but I don't understand the hooplah about Apple in general. All the company does it take technology and dumb it down as far as possible, as if they think the general populace is too stupid to understand how to work things otherwise. It's always seemed kind of pretentious to me. It worked extremely well for the iPod, but I don't want to be treated like an incompetent with every product they come out with.
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I do.
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That's the thing though.
Macs don't 'dumb' down the product. All of the advanced features are still there for people who want them.
They aren't easier to use because of the pretentious degrading of technology, they're easier to use because they organize everything.
Macs can be compared to the little kid whose thrown away all of his childish toys and finally cleaned his room, and he keeps it that way. He knows where his shit is and can operate a lot better because of it. Windows can't even find his socks sometimes.
I'm not trying to say that Macs are better, because Windows kid can still find cool shit lying around, but Mac kid is more responsible. That's his appeal. Most mommies and daddies will applaud him.
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Haha, what would Linux be in this analogy? The kid that does whatever the hell he wants to his room?
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Linux is the kid with a massive fetish for buying Legos and K'Nex (remember those?) who throws away all of the instructions and builds shit until he learns how to weld.
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What turns me off on the Air is that while it's thin and light, it's still BIG. Anyways touched on this earlier; it's almost as big as a Macbook Pro when it comes to width and length, so the only thing you do is sacrifice stuff to make it really really thin. And it's cool, don't get me wrong; the consumer electronics whore in me loves it. But to me it's just not a practical 'ultraportable' laptop; you still have to put it in a bag.
Sooo, that brings me to my contender: my Asus EeePC. 26.5cm x 16.5cm x 3.5cm (at it's thickest) and 1.9 pounds. THAT is an ultraportable laptop. It's the size of a trade paperback book. And it specs out well enough for an admitted ultraportable: 7" 800x480 display, 4GB SSD, 900mhz (underclocked to 630mhz) Celeron ULV, 512mb (upgradeable to 2GB) RAM, 3x USB, 1x SDHC, 802.11b/g, ethernet, VGA-out, integrated webcam.
Oh yeah, and it costs $400. They have $300 (2GB SSD, smaller battery, no camera) and $500 (8GB SSD) variants, as well. Comes with a custom Linux flavor on it, but I nuked it and loaded a nLite-ed XP install off a thumbdrive and I have about 2.5GB of HD free for use, and I still have the SDHC slot empty. And I gotta tell you, the 22 seconds from 'push power butan' to 'windows desktop up and running' is pretty slick.
Anyway enough yammering and thread hijacking from me.
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Those of you wondering what the deal is with this machine, or those of you wondering with the deal is with the wonderers, might enjoy Mac developer Wil Shipley's rant (http://wilshipley.com/blog/2008/01/macbook-air-haters-suck-my-dick.html) (NSFW title).
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It's light and thin. There's nothing to hate about it except the price; which doesn't matter if you're shitting diamonds.
Like Apple always does, they will slowly upgrade it, lower the price, and laugh at the idiots who bought their product when it first came out.
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I've decided that I would give my left nut for an EEE PC....
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I went into the apple store the other day to buy a keyboard cover for my macbook and i saw the funniest thing:
if you plug a usb device into the Air, it's actually thicker than the Air, so the Air doesn't sit flat.
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I noticed that. You actually have to sit your laptop off the edge of whatever it's sitting on to plug in a usb or headset.
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My bestfriend has it, so I know this computer and I have to say that... It's the same.
There are still people to say "wouaaaaaaaaah it's a beautiful computer ! and easy to use !" etc.
And people to say "Bah. It's just a computer. It looks good but it's just a computer."
Most of the time I'm in the first category. Mac VS PC.. fight ! I'm tired about that at the end. Of course it's a very good machine but of course it's expensive, of course it's beautiful, of course it must be useless if you don't make a lot of things with a computer like programs, designs or something else... That's just my feeling ; everything has been already said and a new Mac doesn't change the game. It's not the Revolution I'm waiting for. :(
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Sooo, that brings me to my contender: my Asus EeePC.
Oh yeah, and it costs $400.
Agrees (edited a bit out so the post isn't huge.
I got my ePC just yesterday and I'm pretty much in love with it (and the fact that its pink is a plus).
Like the AIr it has no disk drive, but honestly almost every program I get is off the internet anyways, and its not like I can't use an external one if need be.
It can't store much (esp. pics/video) but I don't really need to take everything with me all the time, and the keyboard is not that hard to get used to. I'm also pumped about being able to take it to class with me to take notes for grad school in the fall, and not have it make that whirring noise all my other laptops did.
The simple desktop it comes with is annoying, I'll probably put Ubuntu on it this weekend.
Haha, what would Linux be in this analogy? The kid that does whatever the hell he wants to his room?
I knew I'd come up in this analogy eventually.
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The Eee PCs are tiny! It's ridiculous! I eat sandwiches larger than those things!
As a long time mac user, I certainly wish that I had an Eee PC in addition to my mac, as portability has always been an issue for me.
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but more peopele accessing your junk one way or another which is easier to do with a pc connected wirelessly or by usb modem.
I would love it if someone would wirelessly access my junk. :lol:
Sorry, it had to be done.
That said, I'm not a Mac fan, and this one, while pretty, doesn't do it for me.
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With something this portable, what do you really *need* for it anyway? The only thing I can possibly think of is the disc drive to play DVDs with, but who takes DVDs out with them, expecting to find the time to watch them on a tiny laptop screen?
I do this with my Vaio. But only sometimes, because I have, like, 20 full length films on my Archos 605.
I am less opposed to portable macs than I am to desktops, because any laptop is going to have a lot of the issues with being fucking difficult to upgrade or repair that your standard mac has. However, I do have issues with computers that I could accidentally inhale. I'm also guessing this thing breaks when you look at it. If I was rich, I would make a satirical thing, where I compare the performance of my laptop with this thing, then, if it wins, I just hit it with laptop, cackling insanely as the titanium case smashes its flimsy components. Then I would put my computer down next to the wreckage with 'HA HA' written on the screen.
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De-railing the thread for a moment.
That's certainly true. I just sort of resent Apple on principle these days (a rare and fantastic phenomenon, I know) I remember when Macs came with some pretty cool games, Spectre and the like. And I played Warlords from a floppy disc.
And if I really wanted to impress people, I'd show them my high school press pass, signed by Al Jourgensen. Oh yeah.
Remember Cro-Mag Rally?
and the dinosaur game?
and the bug game?
those were awesome. Whatever happened to those?
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To be honest I was hoping that Apple would do something like the Eee, but I was clearly setting myself up for disappointment there. I guess Apple's Eee is the iPhone.