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No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood are leading with 8 noms each.
http://www.oscar.com/nominees/
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Wow, I'm really happy with all of the best picture nominations. I've only seen two of them so far, but I've heard great things about the other three and plan on seeing them before they leave the theaters.
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2 + 2 = 5? (Let the record show that Linds edited out her mistake)
I still need to get around to seeing Atonement. Ian McEwan is one of my favourite authors, and hopefully the strength of the story will save the movie from Keira Knightly.
I'm kind of surprised that The Diving Bell and the Butterfly wasn't up for best foreign language film. Great movie, that. Deserving of the best director nomination, which I am happy to see it got though.
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I still need to get around to the job of seeing There Will Be Blood. ALSO: Michael Clayton does not deserve nomination for best picture over 3:10 To Yuma.
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I still need to get around to seeing Atonement. Ian McEwan is one of my favourite authors, and hopefully the strength of the story will save the movie from Keira Knightly.
It is fantastic. I'm not a huge fan of Keira Knightly either, but she does a better job than normal and the other actors more than make up for her. Also the film is ridiculously faithful to the book aside from one or two small changes, but they didn't mess with anything important. You will not be disappointed.
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ALSO: Michael Clayton does not deserve nomination for best picture over 3:10 To Yuma.
I saw 3:10 to Yuma because it was a western and I am a fan of the genre. I actually thought it was really standard. Not Academy material aside from the chap that played Charlie Prince (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Foster_%28actor%29). He was the only person that got me through an otherwise predictable and ridiculous film.
They overlooked David Fincher's Zodiac though. That is a shame. For a populist-leaning film, that was very ambitious.
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If they were going to give a nomination to an actress from Atonement, it really should have been to Romola Garai. Her performance was superb in that movie.
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I still need to get around to the job of seeing There Will Be Blood. ALSO: Michael Clayton does not deserve nomination for best picture over 3:10 To Yuma.
I honestly thought both of those movies were a little overrated. But if they were to be nominated for something, I'd agree with you, 3:10 was better.
Agreed with Tommy re:Zodiac as well. Robert Downey Jr. deserves Hal Holbrook's spot. Holbrook, while good, was in the movie for no longer than William Hurt was in A History of Violence.
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Yes, but there always has to be at least one old codger in the Oscar nominations. If he was actually good in the film he's nominated for, that's just a bonus.
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Not Academy material aside from the chap that played Charlie Prince (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Foster_%28actor%29).
If there were ever an actor who deserved a big break, it's Ben Foster.
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I'm mildly peeved about the Animated Feature category - you're telling me Surf's Up beat out The Simpsons Movie and Beowulf for that third spot? Seems a little janky.
And Animated Short - I was pulling for Lifted, the new one from Pixar...
And yes, Ben Foster was brilliant in 3:10.
All in all, not a bad batch.
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I like that No Country For Old Men and There Will Be Blood are nominated for almost all the of same categories.
They should just have a gang war between movie crews.
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Guys guys am I the only one that finds it amazing and awesome that Juno got nominated for best picture?
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I'm mildly peeved about the Animated Feature category - you're telling me Surf's Up beat out The Simpsons Movie and Beowulf for that third spot?
Either way, Persepolis should win.
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I'm honestly a little upset Ratatouille didn't get a best picture nomination. Call me crazy but it's easily one of the best animated films ever made and I didn't enjoy a whole lot of movies more than I did that one this year. I also think There Will Be Blood will beat No Country in many of those categories even though I think I might like the latter more. Also, what's up with Tommy Lee Jones not getting nominated for No Country? He was incredible. Overall, however, I'm pretty happy with all these nominations.
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I'm mildly peeved about the Animated Feature category - you're telling me Surf's Up beat out The Simpsons Movie and Beowulf for that third spot?
Either way, Persepolis should win.
I grant you that - though I haven't seen it, I hear Persepolis is brilliant.
However, it would be a stupendous upset if it did win. Let's be honest, Ratatouille is a bit of a lock.
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It really did have brilliant animation, but the plot, characters, and voice acting were pretty so-so. For Pixar, at least.
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Though Ratatouille is amazing, Persepolis has a chance of beating it. I don't remember what the third one is, but I pretty much don't see that one winning.
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Guys guys am I the only one that finds it amazing and awesome that Juno got nominated for best picture?
No, just bewildering.
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It was an excellent film, and not just for a comedy. It's visually interesting and emotionally engaging on a high level. That's award material.
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It would be really nice for a comedy to win the award for a change though wouldn't it? I mean, its few and far between that anyone recognizes good comedies for what they are damnit.
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You could call There Will Be Blood a black comedy. It would be a stretch, but it wouldn't be completely unwarranted. There are parts of that movie that are absolutely hilarious.
My main problem with Juno is that it doesn't really get any good until about halfway through, where it finds its heart. The beginning is full of superficial hipness, cringe-worthy dialogue ("Honest to blog!" "This is one doodle that can't be undid, homeskillet!"*), unnecessary--even amateurish--touches (the diagram of the cheerleader girl becoming a "weird girl" was entirely out of place and unneeded), and contrived plot points (fetuses have fingernails?!).** By the end, though, it manages to be happy and sweet without being overly saccharine, but the myriad problems in the first half are enough to hold it back from Oscar status. I just don't think it's on the same level as No Country for Old Men or There Will Be Blood.
*Spouts Rainn Wilson, his comic talents being entirely wasted.
**To be completely honest, the entire beginning isn't bad. Michael Cera's "I've wanted this for a long time" is one of the most subtly funny things in the entire movie. Actually, Michael Cera's character is the most consistently good part of the film.
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Just like Little Miss Sunshine last year, Juno has absolutely no chance at all of winning best picture. I guess it's cool to see different genres getting more recognition though. We need more high quality comedies so I say it's a good thing for them to get nominated even if they'll never win.
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I'm kind of surprised that The Diving Bell and the Butterfly wasn't up for best foreign language film. Great movie, that. Deserving of the best director nomination, which I am happy to see it got though.
Schnabel, the director, is an American and there is speculation that this is the reason the French did not make this movie their nomination. Because for some reason each country can only put one film up for consideration.
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Man the "homeskillet" part isn't cringeworthy, I don't know what you people are on about. It's supposed to be this gawky adult imitating what he thinks "kid speech" is. Basically it's Dwight.
I am just sick of everyone basically saying a chunk of a movie is bad based on one line that happens before the credits.
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As a slight revision to what I said, No Country will definitely win for sound. The sound mixing and editing in that movie was pretty much perfect. I can't imagine it losing in those categories.
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I saw 3:10 to Yuma because it was a western and I am a fan of the genre.
A little off topic, but did you also see Seraphim Falls? I'm just curious, since I don't know a single other person who has and wondered if I just liked it because of my love for Liam Neeson. ^_^
Back on topic: I hadn't realized how behind on movies I fell this past year. I need to step it up a little (it doesn't help that the only theater within walking distance of my college is closed for renovations or something. *sigh*). Ratatouille was adorable. I could have been that I watched it on a bus and sleep deprived, but I liked it.
Also, I don't want Norbit to win anything. Ever.
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I'm pulling for No Country to get away with Best Picture. The only movie that came close to it for me this year was ....Blood, but as amazing as that movie is, it's really just an extended character study. DDL had better win for Best Actor, in any case.
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DDL had better win for Best Actor, in any case.
God knows he deserves it. He's one of the best actors I've had the pleasure to watch.
I'm really pulling for Ellen Page on Best Actress. Her performance in Juno was amazing.
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It was most certainly amazing and apart from anything else it was a magnificent demonstration of the craft of acting, however I don't think it was an Oscar-winning performance. By which I mean the Oscars tend to reward not the best performances, but the most showy or the most obvious ones. Sometimes they do recognise more subtle performances, but generally a year or two down the track by giving the award ostensibly for a different performance: see, for example, Russell Crowe winning for a fairly middling performance in Gladiator when he was widely perceived (at least here in Australia!) as having been unfortunate to lose the year before for the Insider.
EDIT: and as far as this year's nominees go, I'd really liked to have seen a nomination for Brian Dierker, for his performance as Rainey in Into the Wild. However I suspect among other things the Screen Actor's Guild might kick up a bit of a fuss about nominating a non-professional actor . . . I dunno, am I too cynical about the Oscars??
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On further viewings and consideration I think that, far from being the best film of the year, Atonement will win best picture with DDL taking best actor, Bardem taking best supporting actor, Linney winning best actress, Blanchett taking supporting actress and the Coens taking best director. No Country will also win the awards for sound (I'm almost certain). I'm thinking it will also win adapted screenplay and I'm pulling for Ratatouille to win best original screenplay since it was absurdly ignored for a best picture nomination (it's far better than Juno and deserves its spot). Editing and cinematography will either be TWBB or NCFOM. Those are my predictions anyway.
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We can only hope for it to be that well-rounded. As for your Best Picture prediction, I would be surprised if the Academy picked a weighty period piece. It'd really break tradition.
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I think we can effectively rule out There Will be Blood, Juno and Michael Clayton for best picture. The middle of the three has no chance and the first is simply not a Best Picture kind of film. Michael Clayton wasn't on par with TWBB and NCFOM but I guess it may stand a chance. It's a politicalish thriller which the academy does seem to like. To me though, I really think it will be between NCFOM and Atonement and somehow I feel like the latter will take the prize. None of these films feel like typical Best Picture choices really so I would be not at all surprised if it won.
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Atonement seems like the best choice to spite all the Blood and Old Men fans. Michael Clayton, I wasn't mad at when I saw, but if it wins it'll be another Crash.
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So I've seen all the Best Picture nominees aside from Michael Clayton, which I was never really interested in seeing. That being said I think Atonement will probably win, judging by past winners, but if I got to choose I would give it to There Will Be Blood. My favorite movie last year was actually Into the Wild, but it got pretty much snubbed, aside from Film Editing and Supporting Actor, the former it may have a chance at.
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My favorite movie last year was actually Into the Wild, but it got pretty much snubbed, aside from Film Editing and Supporting Actor, the former it may have a chance at.
You think? I though Bardem was a shoe-in for that one.
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the former =
the first of two things mentioned
Example: We visited America and Australia, staying longer in the former than in the latter.
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Woah, my mistake. Don't know what I was reading there. I really do know the difference. I promise.
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You had better, you used "latter" two posts ago.
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No Country is gonna win cause it's just won the Directors guild award and they just about always go on to win the Oscar. Also, it's the best film, ever. Period.
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I don't know, I guess I'd have to sit down and watch them all again, but hyperbole aside this is a damn fine film. I do think it's there most focused and masterfully made film. That's a deffinite, and it certainly crushes any competition for the Oscar.
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It fits into the noir spirit of the Coens' best films. But yes, I think it's better than Miller's Crossing (which was exhausting at times, although the attempt on the Irish kingpin's life is my favorite Coen scene) and The Man Who Wasn't There. Not as good as Fargo, and I wouldn't compare it to Lebowski, though if I had to I'd say it wasn't as good.
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Is it really better than Fargo, The Man Who Wasn't There, Barton Fink, Miller's Crossing, O Brother Where Art Thou and The Big Lebowski?
In order: as good as, better, as good as, better, as good as, as good as.
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Marion Cotillard was AMAZING in La Vien Rose.
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Poor Paul Thomas Anderson :(
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Why? Everyone who won for TWBB seemed to be completely in love with him. I don't think anyone thought his movie was going to win the picture or director nod. It just isn't Oscar material and, frankly, I'm sure he knows he made a masterpiece and doesn't need a very small, shiny bald man to remind him of it.
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For those that don't know who won what, I SOLVE-A YOUR DILEMMA (http://www.oscars.org/80academyawards/nominees/index.html).
I'm appalled The Golden Compass got nominated for anything, let alone taking home a win. That was easily the worst movie I've seen in years. Everyone I know who liked it went "DID YOU SEE THE BEAR KNOCK OFF THE OTHER BEAR'S JAW?" and when I ask them to name a single other part of the movie that was worthwhile, they usually stare at me slackjawed and respond, yet again, with "DID YOU SEE THE BEAR KNOCK OFF THE OTHER BEAR'S JAW?"
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Congrats to the Coens. Disappointed with the actress wins though. Was really especially hoping Cate Blanchett would take home the supporting actress Oscar.
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It's awesome how apparent it is that Daniel Day Lewis is the son of a Poet Laureate of England.
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Did anyone else notice that The Bourne Ultimatum won the second highest number of Oscars this year?
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Yeah, in all the dump categories. I kind of figured No Country would get one of the sound awards, though.
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I was positive No Country would win the sound awards. Sound editing at the very least. It was incredibly well done. TBU had lots of people getting punched and some good car crashes and, to be honest, the sound was rather well done as was, admittedly, the general editing. It's kinda hard to deny that it was a worthy contender for all the awards it won. Still, the sound in No Country was pretty phenomenal and often a lot more subtle in its art than the Bourne style car wrecks.
Was anyone else annoyed to no end by Juno's win for screenplay? I gotta admit this was a fairly weak line-up this year but I thought Michael Clayton and, more so the wonderfully funny and charming Ratatouille were far better scripts. I didn't see the other two movies so I can't comment but as far as I can tell at least two of the five were a lot more interesting than the fairly cliched, quirky teen indie flick dialog of Juno.
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I liked Juno...
And I dont see how Tilda Swinton won over Cate Blanchett. I saw Michael Clayton and I wasn't impressed with her acting in it.
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Crack.
That is what you are smoking if you think that Cate Blanchett is in the same league as Tilda Swinton.
You know, I donis 't know much about Tilda Swinton and I didn't see Michael Clayton, but I have a hard time believing that anyone can outshine Cate Blanchett as much as you say. She is one of the most briliant actresses working today, or ever, no doubt. I saw her in Hedda Gabler about two years ago and she just blew me away.
Anyway, it's a shame that No Country For Old Men beat There Will Be Blood. I saw both this past weekend, and I have to say, I was not too impressed with NCFOM. It was fine, but I don't really get why it's so brilliant. TWBB, however, is a masterpiece.
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I haven't seen The Golden Age and I heard she and it sucked, but have you seen Elizabeth? I don't understand how anyone can think that performance is just her standing there in wardrobe. It is one of the most amazing pieces of acting captured on film.
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Have you seen I'm Not There yet, Tommy? Because I didn't really care about Cate Blanchett up until that film. And in that film, she blew me away, even more so the second time I saw it.
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I thought she really came into her own as the pitbull in No Country For Old Men.
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The only thing I have to say is see Elizabeth, and if you have already seen it or you don't like it, well, you're missing out. :)
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Did anyone else notice that The Bourne Ultimatum won the second highest number of Oscars this year?
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Both in editing catagories, which it got deservedly so. It's a very well-done movie, despite being a fairly predictable action movie.
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Oh, I'm not saying the awards weren't deserved, I just find that factoid funny.
And I wasn't too suprised by Tilda Swinton's win. There was so much hype about Cate Blanchett that it was bound to bottom out eventually. I thought Swinton gave a beautifully nuanced performance, though as a whole I thought Michael Clayton was... underwhelming.
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Though I like Cate Blanchett as an actress, Elizabeth the Golden Age wasn't very good outside of the costuming, I didn't see the Bob Dylan thing, because I thought it looked weird, and Tilda Swinton was pretty good in Michael Clayton. I was actually hoping Saoirse Ronan would get it, but I'm okay with Swinton getting it.
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I think this film was maybe the worst idea/execution of anything I can remember right now. I would go into this at length but I would have to be relatively obscene and I don't particularly want to upset people.
I can understand this thinking pretty well, and see where you're coming from. The first time I watched the film, I certainly thought it was a mess outside of a few scenes. It was the second time that let me get a good deal more out of it.
Also, you haven't thought of Across The Universe then.
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Not really. I haven't seen the film but I think it's pretty cool that she won an Oscar for her first screenplay. Especially since she rose from a humble blogger stripper.
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I thought she really came into her own as the pitbull in No Country For Old Men.
I LOL'd when they showed that. Don't know why.
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Probably because it was the only good joke of the evening.
Apparently 11 days is not enough time to bring the funny...
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I thought the ironic montages were pretty LOL-worthy, too.