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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Catacombs on 01 Feb 2008, 22:07
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So I'm looking into buying a few different pedals, and I realized i don't know ANYTHING about them. I sort of have an idea, but i figured i'd bring it here before i go shopping. The only pedal i have is the Boss DS-1, and my guitar is a Fender Strat. I want something chorus-y (Boss CE-1?) and some with good fuzz/crunch/maybe a tube screamer. Ideas?
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A Boss CE-1? I guess if you really want to throw that much money at a chorus pedal, go for it, but man... it's just chorus.
Or did you mean a Boss CH-1? That would be a much better idea.
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and some with good fuzz/crunch/maybe a tube screamer. Ideas?
I personally am a fan of the Blackstone Mosfet Overdrive (http://www.blackstoneappliances.com/). It emulates tube amp distortion pretty well.
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A Boss CE-1? I guess if you really want to throw that much money at a chorus pedal, go for it, but man... it's just chorus.
Or did you mean a Boss CH-1? That would be a much better idea.
I most likely meant CH-1
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My first-ever encounter with distortion pedals involved the use of a Boss DS-1. If I had any money right now (yes I am that broke) I'd invest in one. Right now I've got a DigiTech Hot Head and it's about as versatile as a shit in a bag.
One thing I like using is my Boss DD-20 GigaDelay. That thing is a -staple- for all of my stuff. It really fills in all the empty spaces, and it takes a bit of practice, but it can be done very tastefully. It's got 11 different delay options and you can control absolutely everything if you just take the time to read the manual.
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What kind of an amp are you using? If you're planning on recording or playing out it's generally a good idea to have a good amp before you spend all your money on pedals.
I recommend:
(http://www.the-soundfactory.com/images/tgs/fen-tweed.jpg)
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Is that a Fender Blues Deluxe?
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Yep. That thing gets crazy loud and sounds amazing.
Though if you're not going for "loud", I guess it's not that necessary.
I prefer audience-deafening performances personally.
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Most of my distortion comes from a Marshall GV-2. For everything else, I have a Digitech RP-50.
I need moar pedals.
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I currently have a behringer VT999, a tube overdrive with a noise gate and treble, mid and bass controls. It sounds alright, but the few reviews I've read for it mention swapping out the stock tube. Since the tube is inside the pedal enclosure, would I have to discharge the capacitor first before even touching the tube?
Before that, I used a Boss OS-2 Overdrive/Distortion. It worked well.
Also, I should probably get a new amp.
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You should just be able to pull the tube out and put in another (of the same kind, mind you, or the thing will most likely blow up due to biasing issues).
I too recommend buying a good amp before you even think about buying pedals.
If I ever play in a "real" band again I'ma get me one of those Line 6 delay modelers. Those things are really fun.
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ZVex. (http://zvex.com/effects.html) These are some of the craziest pedals I have ever seen. I wish someone sold them around here, 'cause I want a Fuzz Factory.
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Not much of a fan of pedals, myself, I gotta say. Too many guitarists hide behind an assload of distortion or effects to hide that they've mediocre guitarists (I'm looking at you, Brad Delson).
I'm much more a fan of making the weirdest possible sounds I can with just distortion and alternate tunings and drumsticks and bottlenecks and the like.
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What do you guys think of behringer pedals?
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If I ever play in a "real" band again I'ma get me one of those Line 6 delay modelers. Those things are really fun.
That's the primary pedal I use when I do solo shows. They are great and wondrous things in that they allow one person with a guitar to sound like an entire post-rock album (sans drums).
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What do you guys think of behringer pedals?
Two words:
A... VOID!!!!
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What exactly is so bad about them, then?
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ZVex. (http://zvex.com/effects.html) These are some of the craziest pedals I have ever seen. I wish someone sold them around here, 'cause I want a Fuzz Factory.
Dude those are some sexy looking pedals. I would get one just so I could look at it.
THREAD HIJACK: I am currently saving up for a good bass overdrive pedal so I can get even more GRRRRRRRRRRRRSLDKJFSDLKJF out of my bass. Anybody have any good suggestions for a pedal?
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What exactly is so bad about them, then?
Well, you get what you pay for, so for the price I guess they're okay.
That said, if you want good tone, avoid them. Even BOSS pedals sound better.
If you want pedals that don't swallow bundles of signal, avoid them.
If you want pedals that can actually withstand normal use without breaking like the plastic turds they are, avoid also.
And to add insult to injury, they buzz and hiss like crazy when you're not playing.
Moral is: DO NOT buy behringer pedals, ever.
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Damn, I was all for it until the plastic turd bit. Oh well.
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Thanks guys. That Fender amp is currently the one i use for shows at school, and i have a small 15 watt Crate amp i use to practice on at home. I won't be doing any recording/traveling with it as i'm just getting back with my electric ( i went on an acoustic kick for the past year and a half ). Those Zvex are seriously sexy, there's a store that sells them according to the website a few towns over from me. Anyone know anything about what they run for? Handmade/hand designed and all that they probably aren't too cheap.
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The ProCo Rat gets amazing distortion/feedback, it's quite loud though, and the feedback can overpower the sound.
Good for a slightly fuzzed out indie/noise rock sound though.
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Too many guitarists hide behind an assload of distortion or effects to hide that they've mediocre guitarists (I'm looking at you, Brad Delson).
Well, that may be true, but you have to admit that the sounds David Gilmour (Pink Floyd) can pull out of a strat are pretty fucking incredible, and his pedal rack is monsterous:
(http://home.comcast.net/~jroscoe/pilserig.jpg)
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This is true - Gilmour, who is a massive influence on me, does have a huge pedal rack. However, his influence on me has always been more about his playing (melodic, like the guitar is singing, like it's more than a guitar solo) than his sound. What I was referring to earlier (drumsticks, etc.) was more influenced by Syd's playing on live versions of something like 'Astronomy Domine.' He wasn't one to use effects because they didn't have pedal racks like that in the sixties!
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Tom fucking Morello.
Thread over.
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What do you guys think of behringer pedals?
Good for circuit bending! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxPdOKv_B7Y)
(Check out the more recent pedals he's built)
Those Zvex are seriously sexy, there's a store that sells them according to the website a few towns over from me. Anyone know anything about what they run for? Handmade/hand designed and all that they probably aren't too cheap.
A lot of money!
A good Fuzz Factory style pedal for real cheap is the discontinued Zoom Ultra Fuzz UF-01. Goes for about $50-80 on eBay.
Reviews (http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Zoom/UF-01+Ultra+Fuzz/10/1)
(http://www.instrumento.cz/img/recenze/540.gif)
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Good for circuit bending!
(Check out the more recent pedals he's built)
Well, great. I was actually going to experiment with some circuit bending sometime soon, so it looks like I will purchase these. I am not actually using them for guitars, btw...
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I'm looking for fuzz pedals on Ebay and I haven't found a single Zoom pedal, but I found a few vintage Gibson Maestro pedals and several Zvex Fuzz Factories. The latter all range from $100-$280.
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Anyone used a Boss RC-20XL Loop Station before? I'm contemplating buying one while our mighty Australian dollar is still within spitting distance of the US$.
Also, if anyone has any other suggestions for similar pedals to check out, let me know. It's not for guitar, but for looping vocals, harmonium, trumpet and various other instruments on the fly, so it'd be running from a mic most of the time.
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No, but this dude (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf-K50n7mLM) has.
I would like to get one despite the DeMarco endorsement, so I can pretend to be Ian Williams.
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According to Wikipedia, Ian Williams uses TWO Akai Headrush delay pedals.
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According to Wikipedia, Ian Williams uses TWO Akai Headrush delay pedals.
David Gilmour uses THREE Compression Sustainers :laugh:
But yeah, his guitar solos are amazing. They transcend excellence in a most excellent way!
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But apparently, he didn't record American Don with those pedals, instead opting to overdub those parts.
There was nothing "one take" about that record. It was meticulously worked over with hundreds of overdubs, edits, and punches. They labored every end of it.
By the time they had finished touring on it, the 3 of them could play every note live.
They worked out a lot of the details in the studio.
I saw a band called Silian Rail (http://www.myspace.com/silianrailmusic) at a house show in my hometown, San Jose. The guitarist had a RC-20, but instead of actually using it in time with her guitar playing, she had pre-loaded loops for the drummer to play to while she re-tuned their guitar. By the way, they were awesome. From what I remember, they sounded like a cross between Don Cab and Polvo.
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I'm looking for fuzz pedals on Ebay and I haven't found a single Zoom pedal, but I found a few vintage Gibson Maestro pedals and several Zvex Fuzz Factories. The latter all range from $100-$280.
No love for the Big Muff?
(For the love of god, as tempting as it is, we can do without jokes about loving muff)
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LOL YOU SAID MUFF
I have never actually used a Big Muff (LOL VIRGIN) so I don't know what it even sounds like. I would, however, like an Ibanez Tube Screamer at some point. Seriously? I would probably destroy all the circuitry in there from using it so much, but it would be worth it for another.
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According to Wikipedia, Ian Williams uses TWO Akai Headrush delay pedals.
Andrew Bird uses two DL-4s live for looping, one each for pizzicato and arco. How does he sync them? Just tap accurately! Sometimes they get out of time but nobody cares.
The Big Muff's tone has a tendency to get lost in the mix. This is known as the "Muff Dive" phenomenon.
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I tried a Big Muff at a Daddy's Junkie Music, with some kind of Stratocaster, going through a really old Fender silverface amp. It just sounded kind of boring. It was either normal distortion, or muddy fuzz. I wish I could get that kind of fuzz J Mascis uses in the song "Little Fury Things" or like this really fuzzy guitar bit from "You Were Right" by Built to Spill.
I have yet to find a pedal that does either. I was really unimpressed by the Big Muff to say the least.
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Dude, a little piece of J Mascis's soul is shipped inside every Big Muff. It's basically THE Dinosaur Jr. sound packaged in a small metal box.
I agree that it's not an extremely versatile pedal, but if you can't get that one band's tone out of it, you're doing it wrong.
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J Mascis's Big Muff collection:
(http://myspace-762.vo.llnwd.net/01254/26/76/1254206762_l.jpg)
They're the old ones, so they sound a bit different...
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Death By Audio (http://www.deathbyaudio.net/) has released a new pedal.
It sounds fucking awesome.
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My boss at the guitar shop I work at used to intern for Oliver Ackermann (founder of Death By Audio and frontman for A Place To Bury Strangers) and they're pretty good friends.
We carry their entire line and it's fucking beast.
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That Death By Audio pedal is pretty awesome. Now if only I had more money.
Dude, a little piece of J Mascis's soul is shipped inside every Big Muff. It's basically THE Dinosaur Jr. sound packaged in a small metal box.
I agree that it's not an extremely versatile pedal, but if you can't get that one band's tone out of it, you're doing it wrong.
I prefer to think of it in terms of Mudhoney, but hey, eithers good.
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you're doing it wrong.
More than likely.
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LOL YOU SAID MUFF
I have never actually used a Big Muff (LOL VIRGIN) so I don't know what it even sounds like. I would, however, like an Ibanez Tube Screamer at some point. Seriously? I would probably destroy all the circuitry in there from using it so much, but it would be worth it for another.
The Tube Screamer does nothing, tho, unless you have a valve amp. Feeding a TS 808 into a transistor amp sounds worse than a practice amp's distortion channel.
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Bashing solid-state will get you nowhere as it has already been pretty well established that the Marshall MG series is made for pure fucking heroism.
Seriously? I've played the same guitar through my mate's dad's vintage Deluxe Reverb and his vintage AC30, and my Marshall puts up some damn stiff competition.
[/jacking off over my Marshall]
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What about the Swollen Pickle?
(http://www.hothouse.net.au/hhpedals/swollenpickle.jpg)
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Tube elitists, go play a Tech 21 Trademark 60 or 120 and then get back to me.
(What I'm trying to say is, solid-state amps suck because usually they're the cheaper, lower-quality alternative and are not made as well for that reason. If you try and make a great solid-state amp, you very well can.)
Not to say that I don't love tube.
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Where can I find one of those Swollen Pickle pedals?
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The Way Huge Swollen Pickle has been out of production for years now, but apparently it's almost like one of the old Sovtek Big Muffs with a hell of a better sound. They go for about $2,000 whenever they kick up on ebay.
Anyway, you can build your own... it's what I'm planning on doing. You gotta get the Large Beaver kit from BYOC, plus the mod pack to pickle your beaver...
http://www.buildyourownclone.com/largebeaver.html
Also, sometimes prebuilt pickle clone pedals show up on ebay or things like that... but it's really a legendary tone.
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Okay with names like "Swollen Pickle," "Big Muff" and "Large Beaver," I REFUSE to believe that any of those names were coincidental, therefore losing half of their amusement value.
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Don't forget the Super Hard-On that Carrie Brownstein used to use.
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"Super Hard-On" and "Carrie Brownstein" were pretty much MADE to be used in the same sentence together.
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The Way Huge Swollen Pickle has been out of production for years now, but apparently it's almost like one of the old Sovtek Big Muffs with a hell of a better sound. They go for about $2,000 whenever they kick up on ebay.
Anyway, you can build your own... it's what I'm planning on doing. You gotta get the Large Beaver kit from BYOC, plus the mod pack to pickle your beaver...
http://www.buildyourownclone.com/largebeaver.html
Also, sometimes prebuilt pickle clone pedals show up on ebay or things like that... but it's really a legendary tone.
Well, that's shit. Which do you think would be more expensive/practical: Building my own fuzz pedal or putting a guitar through two Big Muffs? (Can you do that, or will it fuck your shit up?)
((What does it mean to "pickle" your pedal?))
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I've run through multiple distortions/fuzzboxes many times... it sounds pretty awesome. Although it can also sound really crappy and cut out your low end. I've never actually tried two big muffs, cus I've only got one!
Pickling the pedal means that it takes the custom built big muff and makes it sound like a swollen pickle. Either way, it's fun to build your own pedals.
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Sounds it. Thanks!
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I am currently saving up for a good bass overdrive pedal so I can get even more GRRRRRRRRRRRRSLDKJFSDLKJF out of my bass. Anybody have any good suggestions for a pedal?
Hi guys what up?
Seriously, if anybody has any suggestions to any pedals I could check out, I would be most very grateful.
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You could set yourself back more than 300 bucks and get a ZVex Woolly Mammoth.
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Yeah. Berhinger makes some bass distortion pedals, too. I think the ProCo Rat I/II works with bass. That could be a cheaper alternative.
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There's a Zvex going for $300 on my local Craigslist.
My guitar was cheaper than that.
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Fuck cheep, I want that Woolly Mammoth now. That thing sounds absolutely delicious.
Also after looking through all of their pedals, I also want their tremolo pedal and their low-fi loop pedal.
Especially the low-fi loop pedal. That thing wins in every possible way.
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Yeah lo-fi delay is FUCKING AMAZING and one of these days I -will- have myself one of these. (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Hiwatt-CTE-Custom-Tape-Echo?sku=152500).
That'd cost me more than my goddamn Gibson SG did, if only by $4.
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Well, that's shit. Which do you think would be more expensive/practical: Building my own fuzz pedal or putting a guitar through two Big Muffs? (Can you do that, or will it fuck your shit up?)
((What does it mean to "pickle" your pedal?))
Running your signal through more than one fuzz usually results in losing a lot of treble, cut, definition... basically it generally sounds like crap. Same with multiple heavy distortion stages, usually.
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Well, that was kind of the point. Basically, what I want my pedals to do at their most extreme, is to sound like a bunch of hissing and static.
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Effector 13 Truly Beautiful Disaster (http://www.analoguehaven.com/effector13/trulybeautifuldisaster/)
Feedback loop with photosensitive eye + oscillating fuzz. It's the craziest fucking pedal ever. Rivals DBA or Z.Vex.
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basically it generally sounds like crap.
Define "crap."
In the right context, some crushing atonal noise can be absolutely awesome.
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I agree with Johnny on this one..
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Agreed. Seriously, without vast chunks of atonal noise being manipulated and fucked around with and sent through like 80 reverb pedals, Sigur Rós would not exist as a band. TRUE STORY.
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I agree too. That is why I own one of these:
(http://www.frostwave.com/images/aleinator_detail.jpg)
Click! (http://www.frostwave.com/sonicalienator/)
But running too many distortion effects in series often gives a flat, muffled sound which gets buried in a mix, especially hard-clipped distortions.
Edit: I recall this is not so much a problem with lighter distortions; my Tubescreamer and DOD 250 clones run together sound pretty good. Big Muff run with my Danelectro French Toast, or either into the overdrive channel of my amp doesn't sound very good though.
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WHAT.
This shit is amazing. I especially like this one (http://www.frostwave.com/funkaduck/). Ever listen to 'The Porpoise and the Hand Grenade' by Pavement? THAT IS TOTALLY THE SAME PEDAL HOLY CRAP I WANTS IT.
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putting a guitar through two Big Muffs?
I'd think the Double Muff (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ElectroHarmonix-Double-Muff-Distortion-Pedal?sku=153327) would probably do it.
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When it comes to distortion I prefer to simply use the gain channel of a decent all tube amp. Digital distortion can't compare in my opinion. That being said, if you've got the cash there are a handful of pedals that run tubes to give them a more natural, warm tone. I used a Radial Tonebone Hot British for a while and it was good for a Marshall-esque high gain. My personal favoruite (if you can find one) is the Soldano Supercharger. That pedal is a beast, but sadly isn't in production anymore. If you're looking to simply get a bit more gain out of an amp you already like the tone of I'd recomend a Fulltone Full-Drive 2.
Something a lot of people don't realise with the mass produced pedals is that when they're turned off they run your signal through a buffer. So so more pedals you run your guitar through the weaker the original tone of your guitar will get. You won't notice it with just a handful of pedals, but you will once you get a serious pedal board going. You can get true bypass pedals, but they'll cost you a fair bit more.
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Dude, that Double Muff is cheaper than a straight-up Big Muff. Weird.
I think I might try my hand at making one of those BYOC pedals. My dad knows how to do that kind of stuff and can help me. I wonder if I could make one that sounds like a Double Muff...
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The Double Muff isn't actually two Big Muffs, it's two "Muff Fuzz" effects in series. Hence no Big Muff controls.
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I've got one of them Double Muffs and i really like it!
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I don't know if this has already been said, but I don't really care. I shall emphasize it.
Get a Big Muff Pi.
Edit: Holy Christ, I assumed someone had already brought it up, but I didn't expect it to be mentioned in every other post before mine. Sorry.
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Dogg reading the thread before you reply always helps.
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My ecstatic love of posting overwhelmed my common sense.
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An honest mistake. Now you know.
I have not yet mentioned my Vox wah pedal. It's kindof fun I guess but not anywhere near as versatile as I thought it would be when I bought it. Cool toy? Yes. Great investment of $100? Nooooooooo
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I'm going to add a Little Big Muff, a Morley Volume-Wah, and hopefully either another delay (a Ps-3 if I can get one at an affordable price). In the long run if I can create a True Bypass Loop, I want to use a Mini-Kaoss Pad. Seriously 50 dollars for a switch with a few wires? No thanks, I will build my own.
Signal Chain:
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m187/warmeverest/pedalboard.jpg)
Effects Loop Send > Digitech Bad Monkey > Boss Ps-5 with Yamaha FC-7 expression > (formerly before he died, 1970's original MXR Analog Delay) > Ibanez DE-7 > Digitech Digidelay > Boss Ph-2 > Akai e2 Headrush > Effects Loop Return
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m187/warmeverest/Photo4.jpg)
Picture of dead MXR
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An honest mistake. Now you know.
I have not yet mentioned my Vox wah pedal. It's kindof fun I guess but not anywhere near as versatile as I thought it would be when I bought it. Cool toy? Yes. Great investment of $100? Nooooooooo
I wanted one for a while 'till I realized just that. I think I'm gonna go for an auto-wah (looking at an EH Micro Q-Tron) instead; it's so much more versatile.
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Hey guys, I've got 5 bland steel pedals that need graphics. Anyone got any ideas?
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So i decided to check out an Ibanez Tubescreamer TS808 and electro harmonix small clone chorus. anyone use either?
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i have a small stone phaser, it's pretty versatile and analog sounding.
tubescreamer reissues suck.
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ZVex. (http://zvex.com/effects.html) These are some of the craziest pedals I have ever seen. I wish someone sold them around here, 'cause I want a Fuzz Factory.
Dude those are some sexy looking pedals. I would get one just so I could look at it.
THREAD HIJACK: I am currently saving up for a good bass overdrive pedal so I can get even more GRRRRRRRRRRRRSLDKJFSDLKJF out of my bass. Anybody have any good suggestions for a pedal?
If you can find an old school Death Metal Pedal from BOSS (I think) they are great for bass guitar, crank the high and low, and drop the mid EQ = pure growl, esp. if you play with a pick.
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I'm really considering going to a Line6 X3 Live (http://line6.com/podx3live/).
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I am currently saving up for a good bass overdrive pedal so I can get even more GRRRRRRRRRRRRSLDKJFSDLKJF out of my bass. Anybody have any good suggestions for a pedal?
Hi guys what up?
Seriously, if anybody has any suggestions to any pedals I could check out, I would be most very grateful.
IMO my Sonic Alienator sounsd great for bass, but it's really expensive. Other bass favourites are the Sansamp Bass Driver/DI and the z.vex Woolly Mammoth.
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tubescreamer reissues suck.
They pretty much do suck. You can get them modded with the old skool chip. But still meh. I have one and one of the pots has shorted something out so it doubly sucks. If you want a tube sound, get a tube. While my amp has a gajillion tubes in it I also employ an Akai Shred-o-matic which has a 12AX7 as well as some kooky diodes.
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You know that whole thing where tube amps are heavy and expensive? Yeah, I kindof have a bit of trouble with that, because I am weak, skinny, and poor.
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Get a small cheap one which sounds good.
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as regarding my other post on this topic:
Speaking of tube pedals/tube amps, does anyone have a favorite brand of 12ax7 or 12ax7 replacement (like a 5751) that they prefer? I can get a respectable crunch out of my Behringer VT999, but it doesn't seem enough.
Also, speaking of Akai pedals, has anyone ever tried an Akai G-Drive (http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM02/Content/Akai/PR/G-Drive.html)? They look rather awesome, but have been gone for some time now.
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Replacing the tube in that probably won't change anything much.
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However, turning it the fuck up might help.
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crank dat soulja tube
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Guys, would it really be worth the extra $7-8 to get a Little Big Muff over the Russian-made ones?
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Actually the Sovteks are kind of cool IMHO.
Depends how you want yours to look.
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Sovtek? Uh oh, looks like them commie sonsabitches is lookin' to make a comeback.
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So it's just on looks, then?
Fuck it, I'll get the Russian. I like the black.
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Pretty sure. My friend has a Sovtek Smallstone and it sounds exactly the same.
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I have to suggest GrooveTubes (http://www.groovetubes.com/tubes_list.cfm?ObjectGroup_ID=107) for all your tube needs.
Also I had a little old all tube Fender Champ that was neither heavy, or expensive. Of course it was only 6w...
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Pretty sure. My friend has a Sovtek Smallstone and it sounds exactly the same.
hell yeah it does, friend
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So it's just on looks, then?
Fuck it, I'll get the Russian. I like the black.
NO it's not just looks. All EH's Big Muff models sound different. I heard the LBM sounds pretty good, try them all out yourself.
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Actually, I'm looking to get a cheep but good delay pedal sometime in the future. Any suggestions?
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What do you want to do with it? There are two main types of delay tone... the warm, mushy, Analog sound which is great for texture or the clean repeats of Digital delay which is good if you want to make it sound like there is more than one of you.
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Dogg analog delay can be clean and precise as well.
I personally think analog-sounding digital delay is where it's at. Best of both worlds + decent price tag.
It's an inherently expensive effect. By that I mean, you're not going to find anything worth buying under $150.
Things to look at:
Tech 21 Boost D.L.A.
BOSS DD-3, DD-6, DD-20
Electro-Harmonix #1 Echo
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Hmm, thats what I was afraid of. Thanks for the suggestions, I'll definitely look into it further.
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A cool lo-fi digital delay is the old discontinued Boss PS-2. I have one, it's cheap, sounds warm and dirty, not in an analog way but in a crunchy digital way. There's a soft high pitched hum when the delay time knob is in certain positions though. I think this pedal was used by a few famous doods, maybe Slowdive. It also has a shitty out of tune pitch shifter built in.
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This is somewhat of a thread resurrection, but I needed to post this:
This is a bass DI box/pre-amp/pedal based on the pre-amp stage of a vintage Traynor TS-50B solid state bass amp. It was designed by some guys on Electrical Audio. Bob Weston, bassist for Shellac, uses a TS-50B head and you can hear it on the first couple Shellac albums. I think the bassist from The Jesus Lizard also used a TS-50B. Anyway, it sounds like it's great for crunchy, Shellac-y distorted bass, but also works for clean bass. I think this is cool because I'm probably going to buy a TS-50 guitar amp soon, which has the same pre-amp stage in it.
http://www.tronographic.com/home-work5.html
The thread on EA (http://electrical.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=24845&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=34a4e3c9157782ad0bdbac9bcf5ebe2d)
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Ah, some guy posted about those on the Offset Forum a few months ago. Look pretty cool, if the soundclips are as good as the people say they are I might pick one up.
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I've got one of these:
(http://files.muziq.be/pics/ibanez_ds10_001.jpg)
http://filters.muziq.be/model/ibanez/10/ds10 (http://filters.muziq.be/model/ibanez/10/ds10)
Ahh, my Ibanez DS10 Distortion Charger!
And it rocks, honestly it makes my guitar sound like pure joy coated in awesomeness with a hint of kickarse. Only problem is that its so old, the batter connector is covered with battery acid and actually just came off entirely! I need to go down to radio shack and get it fixed, it is just too awesome a pedal to let rust.
and...
(http://digitalstudioz.com/shop/images/CS-3.jpg)
The Boss CS-3 Compression Sustainer
My dad got me this for Christmas, and it is a weird pedal to use. If you tweak it enough you'll come across a really good setting, but if you change it you'll probably loose it forever. it's a good one though and I like to mes around with it.
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in response to the delay petal disscussion!
i highly recommend the line-6 echo park!!!!!!!!
i have both the DL-4 and this. the DL4 has alot more options and has looping capabilities, but i use the echo-park more consistently. when you put it on the "tape" setting, it sounds just fantastic, its a perfect vintage tape-loop modeller. PERFECT!
and you can switch it to digital AND analog settings. along with several delay times and settings, AND built in tap tempo that is easy to use! my favorite pedal in the price range.
another fantastic option that is always overlooked: Boss DD-5. i would reccomend this over the DD-3 AND DD-6. just buy a tempo tap seperately and it's soooooo much easier to use than the tap tempo features of the DD-6. its perfect to get that u2, tripplet sound.
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How versatile and usable is the Boss DS-1? Basically, should I shell out $40 to get one?
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How versatile and usable is the Boss DS-1? Basically, should I shell out $40 to get one?
I don't really have much to compare it to, but i quite like it, especially for the price. Depending on where your volume knob is on your guitar, you can go from a bit of fuzz to screeching crunch
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How versatile and usable is the Boss DS-1? Basically, should I shell out $40 to get one?
save up 50 more bucks and go for the ibanez tube screamer
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Honestly, yeah, the tubescreamer will last you a long time through whatever amps you're playing, whereas the BOSS will probably sound pretty bad on a decent tube amp.
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.. 'cept Tube Screamer reissues are shit.
Go for a ProCo RAT 2 (same $90).
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.. 'cept Tube Screamer reissues are shit.
Go for a ProCo RAT 2 (same $90).
second'd.
well, first'd in the page before this 'un.
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Seeing as we're on to the Rat, it was mentioned earlier that the distortion can be a little overwhelming at times, but that's actually fairly easy to fix using the Ruetz Rat (http://www.diyguitaramp.com/rat.html) mod, which makes the tone much warmer and more overdriven, rather than distorted.
Of course, that version of the mod is rather permanent and sometimes you want all the distortion because it is awesome, but it doesn't take much know-how to get around that. One of the best things about the Rat is that it is built like a fucking tank and is impossible to destroy, but also has plenty of extra space for modding things. This is how mine currently looks:
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q109/october1983/stuff/ratmod.jpg)
The switch on the front enables/disenables the Ruetz mod, and the extra knob on the side is a variable resistor run in the battery circuit which recreates the lovely crunchy noises you get when the battery starts dying. I'm pretty pleased with how it all sounds, and would recommend getting a Rat just to poke around inside, even if you only have a little bit of electronic knowledge like me.
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I would pay you to make me a pedal like that, if I bought a vanilla one.
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The ProCo Rat gets amazing distortion/feedback, it's quite loud though, and the feedback can overpower the sound.
Good for a slightly fuzzed out indie/noise rock sound though.
Also a very good pedal to run a drum machine through for a blown out sound
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(http://api.ning.com/files/qkIpQTA4wSIrf0XaUEKCo9YmjOq0Fdm7ql-BEOXvDCA_/PodX3live.jpg)
Just got it friday. A bit daunting at first but it is starting to work for me.
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Is that thing like, a pre-amp, too?
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It has preamp models as well, so yes.
I played both into my Peavey 5150 and direct into my Hard disk recorder and I was suprised how freaking good the dirty tube sound was (faked) direct. It has a mic input. It has an aux input as well. I dig it because I play a Parker and like to run my piezo sound separate from my DiMarazios.
http://line6.com/podx3live/
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You can get little adaptor things, but in my experience they don't always work for some reason. There's always the Boss LS-2, but they're not cheap (Musiciansfriend have them at like $80 right now) and probably do more than you really want. I've been thinking about trying to build my own, stripped down version of the LS-2. I'll give it a go this week.
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i has a question:
i recently bought a thingamagoop (synthesizer) and i need to run my bass and that through my amp at the same time. is there a box/pedal i could buy that takes two inputs and makes one output? i was shown a multiplexer, but i don't know if those are for instruments/inexpensive.
thanks!
Look for any A/B or A/B/Y box.
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Get one of these:
(http://www.mofline.com/images/morley/MMO-ABY-B.jpg)
Built like a tank. Will work as a splitter or a mixer. About $50 USD
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does anyone know what pedals and gear Ratatat uses to get that 70s disco lazer space rock sound
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As far as delay pedals go you can't beat the king:
(http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/images/e_16DD.gif)
[url][http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTdf_t0yc-8/url]
expensive-but will last forever.....consider the memor man for a small budget
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Does anyone know any powerful flangers and when I say powerful I mean I want to hear a flange through it when I'm not playing anything ( heh maybe not that powerful but you get the idea..) I have previously owned and sold a Danelectro Psychoflange and it definintally doesn't live up to its name.. neither did the turbo flange. suggestions anyone..?
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There was a link to this website, Build Your Own Clown, somewhere in this thread. They have some sweet custom pedals. In fact, I plan on acquiring myself a Mighty Mouse, the free compressor that comes with any pedal kit you get, and possibly a delay. I just need to find out where to buy the components, get some of the greenboards from them, and have my dad show me how to solder and borrow his soldering gun. They might have something that could get you that kind of sound.
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does anyone know what pedals and gear Ratatat uses to get that 70s disco lazer space rock sound
i would like to know also.
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A lot of what they do is e-bow based, not as pedal heavy as you'd expect
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A lot of what they do is e-bow based, not as pedal heavy as you'd expect
Here is Mike (stroud) talking about ratatat's sound in an interview:
AL: Do you have a lot of effects on the guitars?
Evan: There is very little effects on the record. A lot of people think that there is. But it is mostly distortion and reversed parts. That .s it. There are a lot of layers.
AL: There are no keyboards?
Mike: There are keyboards too. A lot of it is ten guitar tracks layered down together.
A favorite of Mast and Stroud's methods is to employ a backward guitar effect: They'll write a chord progression or melody, play it backward on guitar (if the progression is, for example, ABCD, they'll play it as DCBA) and then reverse the recording for the final effect.
“It sounds normal when you're playing it — usually it just sounds kind of like a really bad part — but then once it's reversed, it's the right notes, and it's just a weird sound,” Mast says. “It's like these notes that start quiet and then get bigger as they go.”
“We use guitar for almost everything,” adds Stroud, who plays a '65 Epiphone Wilshire. “There are some organs, but lots of the weird stuff you hear that you'd think are keyboards are really backward guitars. We just try to get the most interesting sound. We'll use a keyboard part, and we always end up thinking, ‘This would probably sound cooler on a backward guitar.’”
So I assume that sound is attainable for anyone with even a lo-fi recording set up capable of laying tracks and reversing them....
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There was a link to this website, Build Your Own Clown, somewhere in this thread. They have some sweet custom pedals. In fact, I plan on acquiring myself a Mighty Mouse, the free compressor that comes with any pedal kit you get, and possibly a delay. I just need to find out where to buy the components, get some of the greenboards from them, and have my dad show me how to solder and borrow his soldering gun. They might have something that could get you that kind of sound.
I've ordered many pedal kits from them, they sound great - if you're looking for a place to order components, small bear electronics is a good place: http://www.smallbearelec.com/
The compressor is awesome, and so is the delay.
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Yeah, I wanted a Mighty Mouse, but I decided I didn't really need the extra clipping modes, and all I really want is the RAT distortion sound. The ProCo TurboRAT is fifty bucks cheaper than if I were to buy a pre-assembled one, and cheaper than the kit itself. Although, would it be cheaper to purchase all the components and assemble it yourself? I suppose I could buy the delay and get the free compressor that comes with a purchase. It'd be cheaper than buying two separate pedals.
I bet there's got to be some sort of awesome satisfaction of knowing that you built your pedals yourself. Especially if no one in your area has the same tone or sound as you.
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It's pretty cool.
I do have the turbo rat, though. It is awesome.
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Did you post a picture of it? The one with the mods on it?
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/partyongarth/pedals.jpg)
These are my pedals.
The black one with no label is an Akai Intelliphase, just rehoused. It's only got two knobs, very straightforward. I'm not a big fan of the phaser sound, but this one sounds really nice if used minimally.
To the right of that is the BYOC compressor, I bought this when I first found BYOC and was unsure of how easy it actually was it build a pedal. Tonewise, this compressor is very nice, but it lacks the squish I'm looking for, and it's very dirty sounding. I sold my Boss CS-3; tonewise the two are complete opposites. If you like clean metallic compression, the CS-3 is the way to go, but this comp is natural and gritty sounding but doesn't change your guitar's natural tone at all like the boss pedal does.
The EHX Soul Preacher is actually the perfect compressor, it's got everything I wanted in a comp. After playing around with 4 or 5 different ones, I think this is a keeper.
The EHX Holy Grail is a great reverb, I initially bought it because my old amp had amazing reverb but was way too quiet. When I got the new amp, it has a really shallow reverb tank, but this pedal adds all the reverb I need. One knob, three reverb types. I only really stick with the spring reverb, honestly. The only downside to the Holy Grail is the higher you turn that dial, the quieter the output is. I may have to get a volume pedal to help with this...
The big monster on the far right is the standard Dunlop crybaby wah. I'm not a wah guy, I just use this as a filter sometimes. I've had it forever and it's never done me wrong.
The MXR Blue Box is the weirdest pedal I've ever dealt with, it adds a ridiculous amount of fuzz, and also a note two octaves below what you're playing. I bought this because it was cheap and broken, just a quick repair and I was off. If the dial is all the way up, it really captures that J. Mascis tone. If the dial is lower, you can get really funky 8-bit videogame sounds. I love and hate this pedal at the same time, but I don't think I'd ever get rid of it.
The Boss DS-1 distortion sucks. It was the first pedal I ever bought and I hardly ever use it. I guess it's cool if you want to sound like a 15 year old playing Nirvana songs, because that's what I used it for. I am keeping it because eventually I think I'm going to try modding it or putting something into the housing.
The Devi Ever/Effector13 Disaster Fuzz is another wonky pedal. It's an oscillating fuzz, so it really screams, but it also will play a note on its own without plugging anything into it. I really love this pedal for noise jams.
The ProCo TurboRAT is phenomenal. It's like a RAT but it gets much dirtier and grittier. I've had this thing for 5 or so years now and it's almost always in my pedal train somehow. I think this is the only distortion pedal I really need.
The three metal boxes that are taking the brunt of my camera's flash are three I built - a delay, a tremelo, and a fuzz pedal. I got the kits off BYOC. The delay is very analog, very clean and precise. It's a beautiful thing. There's a dampening knob too, so you can adjust the volume of the delayed notes to get a soft, warm delay - or an abrasive nightmarish mess. It took some getting used to but I'm really warming up to this pedal. The tremelo is pretty good, it does what you'd expect. The fuzz pedal is a clone of the MKII Tonebender. This thing is harsh, metallic and monstrous. It's a really heavy pedal when you need to REALLY crank out the feedback and fuzz.
The last pedal is the orange one with a racing stripe... I bought this off ebay and I'm really not sure what to call it. It's a dirt pedal, definately, but it's not heavy like my other distortions. I use this pedal all the time while fingerpicking - it captures Matt Sweeny's slight distortion on the Superwolf album perfectly. It's great for adding just that thin layer of crunch that I'm looking for on most of what I play.
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*Writes down names of pedals to get.*
Jesus, I wish I had a lineup of pedals like that. I only really want a compressor, delay and a fuzz/distortion.
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hey internet should i go get a boss dd-3 for 65usd today?
i'm thinking probably but
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Guys I have a practice amp now
I think I need some fun things
What should be My First Pedal
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Guys I have a practice amp now
I think I need some fun things
What should be My First Pedal
find a russian Small Stone
set phasers to Kill
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Why does everyone hate the TS-808 reishes?
I've got one and think it sounds fucking fantastic.
Are y'all looking for hella distortion or putting it in front of transistors or something?
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"The MXR Blue Box is the weirdest pedal I've ever dealt with, it adds a ridiculous amount of fuzz, and also a note two octaves below what you're playing. I bought this because it was cheap and broken, just a quick repair and I was off. If the dial is all the way up, it really captures that J. Mascis tone. If the dial is lower, you can get really funky 8-bit videogame sounds. I love and hate this pedal at the same time, but I don't think I'd ever get rid of it."
KIng Buzzo also raves about this pedal and it is used on just about every melvins song to date--love that pedal...MXR makes quality stuff for sure--BTW if you go looking for this pedal on like musicians friend you will never see it advertised you have to type in the exact name but its cheap (pedalwise) and loads of fun
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Guys I have a practice amp now
I think I need some fun things
What should be My First Pedal
big muff big muff big muff
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Guys I have a practice amp now
I think I need some fun things
What should be My First Pedal
A fuzz pedal is always a good start.
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Guys I have a practice amp now
I think I need some fun things
What should be My First Pedal
find a russian Small Stone
set phasers to Kill
Check.
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Depends on what kind of music you play.
The Big Muff does one sound. Hi-gain rokk. It does it extraordinarily well, but not much of anything else.
I'll repeat my ProCo RAT 2 suggestion if you're getting a distortion pedal.
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Really, what's everybody got against the Ibanez TS-808 Tubescreamer reissues?
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Think of J Mascis's voice. Gravelly, weak, and weasely.* The reissued TS-808 embodies it in a pedal.
*This isn't to say that I don't love Dinosaur Jr. His voice fits the music well, but does not fair well as an effects pedal.
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Think of J Mascis's voice. Gravelly, weak, and weasely.* The reissued TS-808 embodies it in a pedal.
*This isn't to say that I don't love Dinosaur Jr. His voice fits the music well, but does not fair well as an effects pedal.
Are you putting it in front of a transistor amp or are you expecting fuzz instead of overdrive or what?
And J.'s voice is the worst thing about Dino. Let Lou Sing!
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It is NOT STRONG. It is WEAK. We're not putting it in front of anything or EXPECTING anything instead of overdrive... OTHER OVERDRIVES WORK BETTER [/capslock]
And J.'s voice is the fucking bomb, man. Lou's voice could NOT stand in front of J.'s guitar. He had Sebadoh for that.
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It is NOT STRONG. It is WEAK. We're not putting it in front of anything or EXPECTING anything instead of overdrive... OTHER OVERDRIVES WORK BETTER [/capslock]
Obv it sounds like crap if you don't put it in front of an amp! It sounds like shit in front of my transistor amps but great in front of my valve amps.
And J.'s voice is the fucking bomb, man. Lou's voice could NOT stand in front of J.'s guitar. He had Sebadoh for that.
Does anyone seriously listen to Dinosaur Jr for the singing?
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Yeah, it's not for solid states. That's like using a BOSS pedal with your tube.
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Snapola!
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Yeah, it's not for solid states. That's like using a BOSS pedal with your tube.
I'm being serious. If you'd actually try it in front of a tube amp you'll notice quite a change in its tone, because it's an overdrive pedal that works by helping overdrive the amp at a lower volume. Good solid-state amps can hardly overdrive, so obv it sounds like crap in front of one.
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It'll help overdrive the overdrive circuit if you're running it into the dirty channel.
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An amp with a distortion channel is a very different thing than a tube amp starting to break up.
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One thing I've never been able to grasp is running a overdrive/distortion pedal through an already overdriven amp. I tried it with my overdrive pedal and my solid state amp, but all it really succeeded at doing was make the buzz from my pickups horrendously loud. Does it only work with tube amps, or what?
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*refrains from saying anything about the MG series at all ever*
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No, seriously, what am I doing wrong?
(Besides using a terrible amp.)
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(ok I just noticed that the thread has long passed this subject but what the hell)
In terms of delay...
First off there's two options, analog and digital. I believe the difference has been discussed already.
(analog warm, goopy echoes. digital more like clean cloned repeats)
Secondly, you have to decide what application your pedal is for.
If you're playing live you pretty much HAVE to have a tap tempo (this is a little switch you tap your foot on to sync the beats of the delay with the music),
so you're in time with the rest of the band.
You don't want to be frantically twisting that little tempo knob every five seconds.
If you're recording or jamming or whatever, a cheaper one without a tap can work just fine.
The Lord of Twisty Knob (non tap tempo) Delays is probably:
the boss digital delay. I'm sure some of you use it. It's a good pedal with pretty much exclusively digital sounds.
There are pretty much two contenders for live application pedals in my opinion, the Line 6 Echo Park or DL-4, and the Electro-Harmonix Memory Man with Hazarai series.
The Echo Park is the cheapest of the series (I think 150 USD), it's the size of a regular pedal with killer digital and some decent modeled analog sounds.
It's pretty awesome, but I find it to not have quite enough features, you can only get a few great sound out of it.
Other gripes include that the same stomping part of the pedal that turns it on and off is also the tap tempo, so when turning it on and off you have to really STOMP.
And that's bad cause the pedal is made of plastic. Durability issues? Yes.
The DL-4 is awesome. It's a digital delay with a mindblowingly large amount of models. In addition it has a 14 second looper so you can do harmonies with yourself and whatnot. It's been on two tours with me around the southwest, I've used it on many recordings as well. Sadly, it breaks. A lot. They are 250 USD a pop and I had to buy three during the two and half years they lived on my board. No, I did not throw it into the crowd every night, yes, I had a metal box filled with bubble wrap to protect it. No, I'm not the only one, everyone I know who has one attests that they don't last too long.
After extensive research, the reason they break is simple: they mount the footswitches on the motherboard. So every time you stomp (or gently tap in my case) a switch, you're bending the entire motherboard. Awful.
The great alternative to this pedal is the Electro Harmonix Memory Man with Hazarai. It's a fairly new model (released late 07 I think) and it's around 220 USD. It has a tap tempo (which older memory man stuff doesn't have), a looper, and a "hazarai" button which instantly loads presets, which I find to be a great feature. Knobs include your standards level, repeats, but also a comb style filter you can put on the sound. I'm just starting to explore the tones I can get with this one. I've done about 9 shows with it now and it's chugging along quite nicely. If you go to the electro-harmonix website there is a good (albeit slightly annoying) demo video.
To conclude it's not the same as the DL-4, but it's a lot more reliable so far and it does what I need it to do no questions asked. If Line 6 could make a more stable DL-4, I'd buy it in a heartbeat, but until then the Memory Man is the final word.
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One thing I've never been able to grasp is running a overdrive/distortion pedal through an already overdriven amp. I tried it with my overdrive pedal and my solid state amp, but all it really succeeded at doing was make the buzz from my pickups horrendously loud. Does it only work with tube amps, or what?
Yeah, overdrive is a tube thing pretty much. When you play through a tube amp, notice how at low volumes you get a nice clean sound and a nice distortion at high volumes. This is a natural effect from putting so much through the tubes. Between the clean sound and the distortion, there is a sweet spot where the signal just starts to break up. This is overdrive. An overdriven amp will add some sustain and a bit of growl, but you can still play nice chords and whatnot.
The problem is, since they're similar to the ear, some folks get overdrive and distortion confused. A distortion pedal (or a fuzz pedal) just takes the clean signal and makes it sound like a burning hot tube amp, basically. Different circuits do this in different ways and some sound better than others. It's an effect that sounds best when you run it into a clean amp so the signal doesn't get muddied up. An overdrive pedal, however, really only works with a tube amp. It makes the signal hotter to jump from clean into the overdrive sweet spot or from that sweet spot into distortion. It sounds very weak in front of any amp that is hard to overdrive (solid state or high watt tube). However, if you put a good overdrive in front of a tube amp and turn all the knobs just right, it gives you a sweet sound that is reminiscent of low-level distortion.
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The Lord of Twisty Knob (non tap tempo) Delays is probably:
the boss digital delay. I'm sure some of you use it. It's a good pedal with pretty much exclusively digital sounds.
If you're using the DD-20 like I am, it's got both knob-twisty AND tap tempo. Holy shit do I love that pedal. It's got a 23-second looper function, too. This looper function is fun for doing incredible shit with, such as reconstructing the post-solo guitar armada in Wilco's "Impossible Germany", which I have been spending hours on end soloing to.
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The Lord of Twisty Knob (non tap tempo) Delays is probably:
the boss digital delay. I'm sure some of you use it. It's a good pedal with pretty much exclusively digital sounds.
If you're using the DD-20 like I am, it's got both knob-twisty AND tap tempo. Holy shit do I love that pedal. It's got a 23-second looper function, too. This looper function is fun for doing incredible shit with, such as reconstructing the post-solo guitar armada in Wilco's "Impossible Germany", which I have been spending hours on end soloing to.
The dd-20 has tap tempo?!
I stand corrected.
awesome.
agreed on Impossible Germany. Excellent solo business to be found there.
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It does, but surprisingly enough I've never had to use it. There's four memory presets (more than I'll ever need...) and a bunch of different delay options, including stereo pan, analog modeling, tape modeling, modulation, and so on. The looper function (oh god SO FUN) allows overdubbing, hence the guitar armada mentioned.
And like any delay pedal worth buying, playing around with the delay time adjust knob (feedback to max!) is the damn Baskin Robbins of radical. It's like a kaleidoscope of sound, and is really great to fuck around with in the middle of a solo. And then of course there's amazing cascade effects like Tom Morello's riff in "Mic Check".
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http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,16326.msg636042.html#msg636042
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If you haven't already, check out the effects reviews section at Harmony Central:
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects (http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects)
I found it useful in justifying my purchase of a Little Big Muff Pi after I had done so :roll:
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ah, behringer pedals.
They are definitely your "value menu" pedals...they work well, but they are cheaply made.
Believe it or not, I have two on my pedalboard (as a working musician).
I have the DR100 stereo digital reverb and the VT911 tube overdrive.
They both have super low noise and exceeded my expectations.
The reverb pedal is more like what you are looking at, their standard pedal "shell" is all plastic (kinda flimsy). My reverb has lasted me two years but that's probably cause I never stomp it with my foot (I leave it on the whole show). One bad stomp could definitely end its career permanently. This probably goes for all their plastic pedals.
The digital reverb sounds are unbelievable for 20 bucks worth of pedal.
The primary overdrive unit on my board is actually the Behringer VT911, it's a neat overdrive pedal with an actual 12AX7 tube sitting in it. It's also solid steel and built like a tank (not plastic). Sounds great with my solid state amp, it really warms up the sound and can produce tones I can't get from any other source.
So yes, I will vouch for their products.
Of course, the more expensive stuff is better (sometimes not that much better actually) but for 20 bucks a pop, who's complaining?
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Besides, if you can get in there with a soldering iron and you aren't a complete jackass when it comes to working with electronics, you could probably replace the wiring so it doesn't shit out on you.
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I can vouch for the Behringer VT999 Tube Monster's alrightness. Right now, I use it as my main rhythm sound and use my Boss overdrive/distortion as a lead boost.
Thing is, though, their pots and switches are weird, in that that they're constructed differently. The footswitch is built on a fucking spring, and the knobs have plastic shafts that extend down to the circuit board. Well, then. At least once I get some good use out of it and/or change the tube, I might overhaul it to death (if, of course I had the electrical know how to do so without frying myself).
Or, I could probably stop acting a fool and replace both pedals with one of these. (http://www.tronographic.com/home-work5.html)
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At least once I get some good use out of it and/or change the tube, I might overhaul it to death (if, of course I had the electrical know how to do so without frying myself).
The nice thing about most pedals is that there is pretty much never enough voltage to be a danger to you. Amps, of course, are a different story.
So how about loopers, where do y'all put yrs in yr fx chains? My chain goes
Gtr -> Wahwah -> Small Stone -> Ring mod -> Looper (EH 2880, so no delay :/) -> Tubescreamer -> Amp
I like being able to record all the fx except the TS, which doesn't seem to be a big friend of going digital and back. I'm thinking about getting some kind of fuzz to put in the front for looping with. And an EQ for between the TS and the amp. And a regular digital delay. GAS ftw!
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Think of J Mascis's voice. Gravelly, weak, and weasely.* The reissued TS-808 embodies it in a pedal.
*This isn't to say that I don't love Dinosaur Jr. His voice fits the music well, but does not fair well as an effects pedal.
Dude, PLEASE stop posting in this thread. Everything you have said has been completely off base and wrong. You sound like you have never played 90% of the gear you are talking about and simply regurgitating hot button terms.
Transistor based amps aren't normally bad because they are cheaper than their vacuum tube counter parts. They are cheaper because transistors are WAY cheaper to acquire and MUCH easier to design around than vacuum tubes. The difference in sound is negligible until the tubes start to heat up, and as with all semi-conductor devices, the temperature alters their gain characteristics, which alters the sound of the amplifier. There are plenty of tube amps that sound just as assy as transistor amps.
Another key difference between solid state and tube amps though, is how they react to dirt pedals (ie fuzz, overdrive, distortion, etc.), vacuum tubes shift smoothly between modes where as transistors are more "on/off". This audible sensation this creates is responsible for ridiculous terms like "organic distortion".
The Sovtek and NYC EHX effects are different. In some cases (such as the big muff), they are a lot different. The main differences come from using transistors manufactured in different locations, and varying frequency responses between the designs.
The Swollen Pickle (along with the Fat Sandwich, and Pork Pie, a couple of other Way Huge classics) can be found on ebay for hella bux... or you can wait for the Dunlop re-issues that are coming out later this year. No clue on how these will sound, but given that Way Huge did very little aside from modding recent classics such as the Big Muff (he did like 10 variations of this one), Boss DM2, and TS808 (this is requisite for any boutique guy, must mod a Tube Screamer and a Fuzz Face before making anything original), the sound should not be that much different.
With that being said, the Swollen Pickle is arguably the most useless of all the big muffs, as it's primary feature is a huge boost of the mid-range frequencies. This results in a VERY sick fuzzed out sound... but it almost makes it nearly impossible to cut through anything (no treble = you will not be heard in a standard band line up).
There is nothing wrong with Boss or Behringer (unless, in the case of the latter, you don't dig on supporting a company whose products are not allowed in some countries due to blatant copyright infringement). Those of you bashing them sound like you have never played or handled anything by either of them.
Yes, some Boss pedals truly suck ass. Metalzone is horrendous, DS1 has a certain appeal but it's not for me. Their current delay line (outside of the DD20, which I think is EASILY the best multi-function delay for the price) is absurdly over priced. But they are responsible for several highly sought after classics (DM2, DM3, SG1, VB2, PS3... the list could go on and on and on). And honestly... I would be SHOCKED if your favorite band has never recorded a song with a DS1 (or a TS808 for that matter, as they are quite the hot shit on the indie scene and one of the most popular pedals of all time. Not that this means you should like it... just saying, if that many people dig it, it clearly does not suck too much balls).
Behringer quite literally makes clones of old Boss and EHX pedals that they are too snotty and dumb to re-issue. Point to point clones. You won't have problems with the plastic case unless you are a 250 pound dude who likes to jump off his 4x12 cab to turn on pedals. As long as you don't take "stomp box" literally, you will be fine.
There ARE a handful of nice delay options under $150. I mean, the Ibanez DE7 is one of the sweetest sounding mass produced delays and it clocks in at $70 new. If you want to dip into the used market, you can get a DOD fx90 (all analog, 500ms I think?) EASILY under $100 (if you are patient, under $50). Playing it side by side with my Boss DM3 (the follow up version of the analog delay most boutique analog delays are based on, the DM2. It's the same circuit, but it adds a dry out which allows you to put together some fun two amp set ups), I can hardly tell a difference (the only thing that is noticeable is that the regeneration of the FX90 is more pristine, which depending on your taste could be better for you than the dirty repeats of the DM series).
Analog delay cannot be as clean as digital. It is technically impossible. A digital pedal turns your signal into numbers, manipulates the numbers, and converts back to an audio signal. An analog delay records your signal, and in order to make multiple repeats, it samples the recording, when this happens the signal slowly (or quickly in some cases) degenerates, where as with a digital delay you get the exact same signal every time (although some do add filters to get rid of some of the rough edges created by this process). One is not objectively better than the other, they are just different.
@Guy with a practice amp that wants to know where to start: I recommend getting a cheap multi-fx box. They suck for the most part, but this is the cheapest way to see if this is something you could get into. Some people just think it is hell of awkward to stomp shit, others just don't like taking the time to twist knobs etc. An alternative to this would be going to a local music store (preferably not Guitar Center, as 90% of their employees are total idiots who will just try and push you into a sale) and play pedals with your guitar, through your amp. It is critical that you use your guitar and amp, as just about anything will sound lovely if you are using an American Telecaster through an old Fender Blackface Deluxe Reverb.
@guy that wants a bass distortion: I REALLY like using a big muff with bass. You don't need a dirt pedal that is "made for bass", all this means is that the frequency range (or "tone") is tweaked to fit the bass as opposed to a guitar. However, this does not prevent several "guitar" dirt pedals from getting fresh on bass. Again, solution is to go to a music store (or guitar playing friends house) and play your bass through various dirt pedals.
@Zvex: Very nice stuff, but with the exception of the Fuzz Factory (which the Ultra Fuzz was a very good suggestion on as a replacement. The Zoom Hyper Lead and Tri-Metal are pretty nice as well, but not FF substitutes) and some of the modulation pedals, it is WAY cheaper to just build them. You can find a schematic for pretty much any relatively popular pedal with a google search.
@running multiple distortions: Multiple big muffs sounds like absolute death, However, if you mix and match intelligently you can make some very tasty combos. One of my favorite things to do is put an octave pedal in front of a medium gain fuzz (such as a germanium fuzz face). This way you can have a tasty sound that won't turn chords into mud, and then turn on the octave, and you have a lead sound that will peel skin. Another fun mix is putting a tube screamer, or an EQ in front of a pretty much any fuzz/dirt, and using it to goose crazy gain out of a narrow frequency range.
@guys who just want noise: The Sonic Alienator is a GREAT suggestion here. A couple of other good ones are the Fender Blender, Ampeg Scrambler and (look up the schem, it is basically the same thing as the ZVEX Octane) Shin-Ei companion fuzz. Mosrite Fuzzrite is good for this too. Another fun one to play with is the EHX Tube Zipper, more of a modulation pedal than a dirt box... but you can get some SICK noise out of it. A good compliment to these type of pedals is a tremolo that has a decent square wave. The most budget friendly pedal I have found that fits this bill is the Danelectro Tuna Melt
@J Mascis: he uses tons of BMP's, but don't forget about the Univox Superfuzz!
Ok... sorry about the ranting. I was just reading some things that were making my eyes pop out of my skull.
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This is my first post, so hi everybody!
I just wanted to chime in to say that dollar for dollar, nothing helps your tone like a good EQ pedal. I use the MXR 10 band version to add some definition to my jazz tone. The 10 band might be a little overkill because the frequency response goes way above and below the range of a guitar, but I would definitely suggest that everybody try a 6 or 7 band.
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Rocktron Hush Noise Reduction Pedal
http://www.zzounds.com/item--RTRHUSH
DO NOT BUY. I have it. It's terrible. Doesn't do anything worthwhile unless killing guitar tone is considered a feature.
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*warning opinions ahead*
so far in my experimentation with various pedals and amps(mostly solid state), ive found a decent built in gain/distortion on the amp to be superior to most pedals.
the boss dist pedals(ive tried ds1's and own a ds2) to have a very limited range of sound. imo, better for rhythm but not very good for leads.
so my advice would be to find an amp with a distortion or overdrive that you like before looking at pedals. on the other hand, built in effects tend to be crappy, and at the very least hard to adjust right.
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Or you could like, find a ProCo RAT, or something to that effect.
I used one of these the other day:
(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/regular/4/1/8/239418.jpg)
And thought it was pretty sweet. The bypass switch felt flimsy, and I thought the tone knob left a little to be desired, but overall a sick pedal. I loved the gate feature. The tone knob gave you either a hushed, bassy sound or more or less a hissy treble sound. It was hard for me to really find a tone I liked, but I'm kind of picky about that thing.
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a long post
Wow, well done on typing all that up.
The Sonic Alienator isn't just for noise, it's a fantastic bass distortion/overdrive as well. That's what I use it for mainly. Some settings are pretty fat on the bottom end. I run it into a Moog MF-101 LPF for sweet synthish tones, in parallel with my dry signal for huuuuuge sound.
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I'm a beginner. The EHX HOG looks awesome to me. Versatile enough for its price tag even. What do you think?
And would it be best to upgrade from my Squier strat (which I like), before (or at the same time as) getting it?
Does it work well enough for me not to have to long for a 6/12 doubleneck anymore? What kind of tone differences are there between a real bass and its sub octave (and sub-sub octave)?
Am I asking too many questions? Shouldn't I make my own decisions?
Its probably all just a matter of opinion, unless it really sucks, and a beginner like me wouldn't know this until after gaining a little more experience.
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Pretty much the only thing I can tell you is try it for yourself and then write up a review for us!
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I'm a beginner. The EHX HOG looks awesome to me. Versatile enough for its price tag even. What do you think?
And would it be best to upgrade from my Squier strat (which I like), before (or at the same time as) getting it?
Does it work well enough for me not to have to long for a 6/12 doubleneck anymore? What kind of tone differences are there between a real bass and its sub octave (and sub-sub octave)?
Am I asking too many questions? Shouldn't I make my own decisions?
Its probably all just a matter of opinion, unless it really sucks, and a beginner like me wouldn't know this until after gaining a little more experience.
I am a huge EHX fan but their stuff is all overpriced. Watch eBay for a good deal. No effect will make a guitar sound like a bass since the string gauge and length produce a different tone, but, assuming you'd run thru a bass amplifier, you could probably cover the low end for a band.
And, honestly, wait on the doubleneck. You will want to know a lot more about just dealing with guitars before you commit to something that can be such a hassle sometimes (18 strings? How often will you want to change that?)
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Sleater-Kinney manage to pull it off somehow. I watched a video of them perform "Entertain" on the Henry Rollins show, and they just use two guitars, instead of guitar and bass. My assumption was a phase/pitch shifter or sorts.
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I am a huge EHX fan but their stuff is all overpriced. Watch eBay for a good deal. No effect will make a guitar sound like a bass since the string gauge and length produce a different tone, but, assuming you'd run thru a bass amplifier, you could probably cover the low end for a band.
And, honestly, wait on the doubleneck. You will want to know a lot more about just dealing with guitars before you commit to something that can be such a hassle sometimes (18 strings? How often will you want to change that?)
dear god imagine if it had a double locking tremolo(whammy system).
that would be brutal.
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Sleater-Kinney manage to pull it off somehow. I watched a video of them perform "Entertain" on the Henry Rollins show, and they just use two guitars, instead of guitar and bass. My assumption was a phase/pitch shifter or sorts.
Actually, they just tune to C#.
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Sleater-Kinney manage to pull it off somehow. I watched a video of them perform "Entertain" on the Henry Rollins show, and they just use two guitars, instead of guitar and bass. My assumption was a phase/pitch shifter or sorts.
They pull this off by, as mentioned above, tuning down, and also having higher voices than male singers tend to. The guitar actually is a baritone range instrument, and can cover the bottom end fine in standard tuning if the rest of the band is a piccolo and a fiddle or something.
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I am a huge EHX fan but their stuff is all overpriced. Watch eBay for a good deal.
Yeah, I recently got an EHX Little Big Muff Pi - something like AU$200 in shops here, but I got one brand new off E-bay for AU$110 including shipping. Not sure if they are usually that expensive in shops elsewhere around the world? Or maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places?
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Holy shit, dude, you still got jacked. American Big Muff Pi's go for 80USD at stores, and Russians 50-60. The Big Muff is like their one cheap thing.
Also, on that HOG replacing a 12 string, just get a good chorus pedal instead. That'd be better, because I imagine the HOG is nightmares with chords.
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ouch, most pedals around here go for about 150 new. good rule of thumb on used, is if it isnt half price by the time it gets to your door, you are getting ripped off.
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The POG is pretty good for chords, but I tried one out and wasn't impressed with the sound at all.
Yeah, Sleater-Kinney just downtune. Even then I usually find their sound quite lacking in the bass frequencies (exception: The Woods). They pull it off well though, I still love their music and all.
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It does, but surprisingly enough I've never had to use it. There's four memory presets (more than I'll ever need...) and a bunch of different delay options, including stereo pan, analog modeling, tape modeling, modulation, and so on. The looper function (oh god SO FUN) allows overdubbing, hence the guitar armada mentioned.
And like any delay pedal worth buying, playing around with the delay time adjust knob (feedback to max!) is the damn Baskin Robbins of radical. It's like a kaleidoscope of sound, and is really great to fuck around with in the middle of a solo. And then of course there's amazing cascade effects like Tom Morello's riff in "Mic Check".
Does this self oscillate? I'm considering getting it, because it's a hell of a lot cheaper and more versatile than the Ibanez AD9 I was looking at. Plus it has a looper, which I need.
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Self-oscillate? What do you mean?
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Self-oscillate? What do you mean?
He's asking if it's got an LFO, I think.
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Sleater-Kinney manage to pull it off somehow. I watched a video of them perform "Entertain" on the Henry Rollins show, and they just use two guitars, instead of guitar and bass. My assumption was a phase/pitch shifter or sorts.
They pull this off by, as mentioned above, tuning down, and also having higher voices than male singers tend to. The guitar actually is a baritone range instrument, and can cover the bottom end fine in standard tuning if the rest of the band is a piccolo and a fiddle or something.
I think at one point they used to use Dano baritones, actually.
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Self-oscillate? What do you mean?
Self oscillating delay. I don't really know how to describe it because I know nothing about pedals and such, but I think it was discussed earlier in the thread. From your description it seems like it can self oscillate. Like, you can change the pitch of the sound coming from the pedal by turning the delay time dial.
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Oh. Yeah, it does. It's why I want a real tape delay so badly (see: Hiwatt CTE).
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I bit the bullet and bought the H.O.G. I think its pretty awesome for someone who doesn't want to sound like anyone else and wants to dabble with bass while still owning only a squire strat (strange to think I've an effect more costly than my guitar. And the micro POG will let you dabble with bass too, of course, but doesn't have the extreme experimental versatility and you-now-sound-like-no-one-else-ness).
A couple tips. Its not really meant for someone who wants to think up harmonic combinations and then create them, expecting the perfect recreation of multiple, strangely ranged guitars. It's for those willing to experiment, and for those who are love just playing around with gadgets. It's got high warblies in the upper octaves (it goes up to 4 octaves above what you're playing), which is actually good for certain songs (Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds both sounds better and is easier to play, IMO. You don't have to play up above fret 12, cramming fingers, and the warblies are well suited to this particular song.)
After short, quick first time experimentation with it, one might think it is only capable of strange things. But subtlety is easy to tweak to my heart's content. You could get a unique tone perfectly suited to each song you play, or even to each riff within a song. I've found adding a little 3rd and 4th octave is a great way to strengthen the effect of the built in wah and filter (the low pass filter expression mode is like a sort of exagerated, stronger wah. I like it.) And I've found I get a really good "7 nation army" with the -1 octave, a 5th, the low pass filter frequency set between 1 and 2, and distortion. Plus, its a trip to be able to play power chords on a single string.
Ironically, my car broke down 2 days after I bought it and needs a new engine (theoretically, I could probably still return the H.O.G., but eh.) I had buyers guilt for the first couple days after I bought it because of the sheer cost. I've managed, mostly, to reassure myself that I am unique, and with a unique, versatile pedal, this early in my guitarings (I started playing only over a month ago), I'll stay that way. I just mustn't rely too heavily on it, for fear of not being able to play without it. It's good for experimentation, but can be distracting when I ought to be practicing technique.
So yeah. I'm a beginner, so I'm sure I haven't gotten out of it what I might. Overall, I think its pretty awesome. My car troubles haven't helped me alleviate my money anxieties.
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*Bump.*
Has anyone ever used any of the Danelectro FAB pedals? They go for pretty cheap, but I'm looking at user ratings and they seem to be pretty high. As far as I can tell, they sound pretty sweet for real cheap.
Also, what's a good tremolo pedal? I was looking at the Electro-Harmonix Wiggler, but that seems really pricey, but perhaps worth the money.
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I should totally know this, but what is the effect where it "stutters" the sound? Bring Back the Guns use it a lot.
It makes a sound reticent of an amp cutting out... only in evenly placed intervals. Any ideas?
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That's tremolo innit...?
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Yeah, I came across a used one on Daddys.com and it looks like it potentially could kick some ass. I think I'm going to buy all my pedals used. I don't know, I might try building one or two of those clones, but I think I am too lazy to do so.
I think it's funny that I used to want a huge rack of effects, but now I only really want a very small one.
This is the setup I want to get in the next few years:
Epiphone Dot > my TurboRAT > Voodoo Labs Tremolo > Boss Digital Delay (or some sort of analog delay would be cool) > my Hot Rod Deville.
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Guys, I just got the Akai Headrush E2 in the mail.
Tonight is going to be so awesome, so awesome.
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Gah! Fight you! Let me know how that is, 'cause that was another delay option I was considering. It'd be super-rad if I could find a used one.
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I got it mostly for the looping capability as I already have a delay pedal, but we'll see how it sounds. Perhaps it will be so good I won't even need the old delay pedal anymore and might sell it?
Don't worry I will talk all about it as soon as I get it plugged in.
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*Cough*I would purchase your delay pedal in which case, if that would be cool with you.*Cough*
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Akai Headrush E2
I just indefinitely loaned out my Akai Shred-o-matic.
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Of course we all know this (http://media1.zvex.com/tremoloprobe.mov) is the greatest tremolo pedal ever made.
Too bad you have to sell your kidney to afford it.
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I think the Seek Trem is cooler.
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Well, I've played it, and I'm not sure how I ever lived without it. It's got the best delay and the best tape echo I've ever used. Also, the looping is just sensational.
The only downside is you can't loop and use the delay or echo at the same time. Guys, I might need two....
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Of course we all know this (http://media1.zvex.com/tremoloprobe.mov) is the greatest tremolo pedal ever made.
Too bad you have to sell your kidney to afford it.
That is the coolest thing I have ever seen.
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If you think thats cool you should see the fuzz probe or whatever its called. That thing is insanity backed in a little metal box.
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Does anyone have any idea what kind of effects chain Braniac used? I would kill for that thick-as-molasses uber distortion.
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If you think thats cool you should see the fuzz probe or whatever its called. That thing is insanity backed in a little metal box.
Man, I have owned a fuzz probe for about two years now, and I'm still not really sure I get it.
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Time to record with Animal Collective!
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If you have the money, get a Red Witch Fuzz God II. I have one and it's amazing. Pure analog, true bypass, double gain and treble up switches, "Wrath" which varies from octave effects to crazy synth sounds depending on how far you turn the dial. If not, get yourself a Tubescreamer. Overyone uses it, so it has to be good. For Chorus, again, if you have the money, get a Red Witch, but if not get an Electro-Harmonix Small Clone. For added effect, combine it with a Small Stone, again from EHX. But make sure to look up Red Witch. Oh and one more thing, look up ZVex and Vexter. They're made buy this guy, Zach Vex, and the distortions and overdrives are amazing.
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Of course we all know this (http://media1.zvex.com/tremoloprobe.mov) is the greatest tremolo pedal ever made.
Too bad you have to sell your kidney to afford it.
How about this? The Stereo Panneur
(http://4mspedals.com/panneur/logo.jpg) (http://4mspedals.com/panneur.php?mode=desc)
A customisable stereo tremolo pedal with an insane amount of controls.
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holy hell!
that is just like, confusing.
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Yeah, it's insane. The mono normal tremolo version, the Tremulus Lune, is cool though- great value for money kit for the features you get. My friend just made one and likes it.
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Woooooooooow. (http://www.beavisaudio.com/bboard/index.htm) The things you find on Gearwire.
I can predict this little number splooging some serious pants.
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I like how it says one of the things you can do with it is "have a giant buttload of fun." It also looks really fascinating.
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Holy crap I would really like one of those.
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Holy crap I would really like one of those.
Wow. I'm in 10th grade again.
The bad news is it is 1980.
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So I got a Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai.
It cost me an arm and a leg.
I'm starting a Mogwai/The Album Leaf type band with a friend and we had our first jam today, and this thing is fucking spectacular. Totally worth it.
Patrick I win now.
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So, the second hand music shop near me has a Boss OC-2 (octaver) going cheap(ish), and I was considering getting it. I play bass, and there seem to be a fair few favorable reviews on HarmonyCentral from bass players using it - but then I discovered it does 1 and 2 octaves DOWN... does anyone know if there's anything in that sort of price range that can do 1 octave UP? I've done a bit of a search, but haven't come up with much.
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I just got a Vox Cooltron pedal. It's a pretty cool distortion pedal, adds a pretty massive amount of gain with both channels turned on but also seems to do some decent crunch tones too; not that I can really say I've ever wanted/needed a crunch tone.
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anybody else here make pedals?
I've made most of the pedals I use, a top range booster (trying to emulate the tones of Brian May's rangemaster), an MXR + disortion clone, and a DOD gonkulator clone.
Working on a delay but it never works, its carcass has been lying around for weeks...just bought one from Electro Harmonix finally. Experimental mosfet based distortion pedal is next!
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So, the second hand music shop near me has a Boss OC-2 (octaver) going cheap(ish), and I was considering getting it. I play bass, and there seem to be a fair few favorable reviews on HarmonyCentral from bass players using it - but then I discovered it does 1 and 2 octaves DOWN... does anyone know if there's anything in that sort of price range that can do 1 octave UP? I've done a bit of a search, but haven't come up with much.
The cheapest are the Digitech Whammy, which does pretty much any octave in any direction, but attacks your chords with a chainsaw-firing rocket launcher, and the Electro-Harmonix Micro POG does octave up and down, and you can mix and match the dry, octave up, and octave down signals with the three pots on it. Makes rad organ, 8- or 12-string bass sounds. POG stands for Polyphonic Octave Generator, so it's good with chords as well as single notes. Overall, if you just want octave up on single notes, get the Whammy. It does so much more with single notes than the POG. But, if you're into chords, get the POG.
I had to edit it because it puts + one as "I have nothing of value to add" when I meant octave up.
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W00t. Just upgraded the firmwarez on my X3LivePODThing-y. Kuh-razy.
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dont forget to get a tuner...
the standard boss tuner is really good...
the best ive ever tuned with...
also, for a good grinding sound, get a coffin case "blood drive"...
its practically orgasmic the tone quality it has....
try anything from boss....
most are good, but a few flangers, chorus and echo pedals from them kinda suck....
get the "H2O" echo chorus (?) pedal....
my rhythm guitarist plays with that and has amazing sound and tone
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Boss are okay, their lack of true bypass will fuck with your tone if you have too many, though.
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Boss make some really awesome stuff and some really meh stuff. Their Space Echo is fantastic at what it does. I haven't had much experience fiddling with it, but I got some really neat delay/reverb sounds out of it. Out of all the pedals I've tried by them, the delays are the only ones I fully stand behind.
I found a huge archive (http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=ProGuitarShopDemos&p=r) of demo videos for all these random effect pedals on you tube by Pro Guitar Shops. Basically, I hear all these other effect pedals and I suddenly want them, even though my TurboRAT does exactly what I want it to do perfectly.
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hmm...
ive found that certain cabels will help fix your true bipass problems...
namely these cables with gold plated tips...
forgot what theyre called, but they eliminate the pops and other crap that interupts with your sound
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Gentlemen, I present to you the Shoe Gazer.
(http://www.deviever.com/fx/shoegazer/shoegazer.jpg)
"The best of Crunch and Muff combined", they claim.
It sounds (http://www.deviever.com/fx/shoegazer/Shoe%20Gazer.mp3) pretty interesting, and at times incoherent. There's one setting that sounds a little bit like the gods of lightning are sitting on an exploding planet furiously masturbating into a black hole.
Then there's the Cherry Pop.
(http://www.deviever.com/fx/cherrypop/cherrypop.jpg)
I especially like how the description for this pedal (button?) on the official website is, "Listen to the sound clips (http://www.deviever.com/fx/cherrypop/cherrypop_deviever.mp3). It's fucking awesome."
And so I did, and so it is.
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Devi Ever/Effector 13 make some pretty weird shit.
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It's not a pedal, but I got an E-bow today and it's really good. So many awesome howling tones and whatnot!!
I now have a delay pedal, a distortion pedal and this E-bow. As soon as I buy a looping station and some cheap fuzz box my set up will be complete and world domination is assured.
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Fight you! I want an E-bow but those bitches are expensive. I keep thinking they're like $20 bucks 'cause they're fucking plastic, but they're $100.
Hooray, you can do kind of bootleg Ratatat now!
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Boss make some really awesome stuff and some really meh stuff. Their Space Echo is fantastic at what it does. I haven't had much experience fiddling with it, but I got some really neat delay/reverb sounds out of it. Out of all the pedals I've tried by them, the delays are the only ones I fully stand behind.
I have the space Echo and love it. Live I use it for reverb and space ship noises. I also use it for that extra wall of delay if I want to make a huge wall of noise and guitar.
I am going to start making some pedals soon. Everytime I think I am going to buy a kit I end up having to spend my money on other things, like food or bills.
I have a pedal addiction. I have been doing well, over a month since my last pedal purchase.
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I thought you used a Digital Delay with like, a separate tap-tempo thing?
I want to start building my own pedals, too. I got my first amp back from my friend, whom I lent it to for fixing, but it was beyond repair. It's a Fender Frontman 15G, and I'm thinkin' I'll strip it for parts (mostly the input jacks and the pots) and build some pedals out of it. I want the speaker too, because I would love to build a ripoff of a Vox for a practice amp. Do you guys think it'd be possible to do either of those things?
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Make sure the pot values are what you need for your project and that you know the difference between audio and linear taper pots. I'm not quite sure what the fuck they put in a Fender Frontman but all pots are not created equal.
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Fight you! I want an E-bow but those bitches are expensive. I keep thinking they're like $20 bucks 'cause they're fucking plastic, but they're $100.
Hooray, you can do kind of bootleg Ratatat now!
Try $300.
Also: I have no idea who Ratatat are, basically I intend on doing bootleg Angelic Process and Nadja.
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Try $300.
Also: I have no idea who Ratatat are, basically I intend on doing bootleg Angelic Process and Nadja.
Jesus, what planet do you live ok where Ebows are $300?
Fix this.
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Fixed (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/EBow-PlusEbow-Electronic-Bow-for-Guitar?sku=219005)
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I meant fix the part where Caspian doesn't know about Ratatat but I was posting from an iPhone which doesn't have a copy/paste feature so I couldn't split up the quote.
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So guys, I really want a pitch shifter. I played with boss's model the other day, and it was really fun but I have nothing to compare it to. Are there other options I should be looking at?
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(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/Foto184.jpg)
BUZZSAW
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I thought you used a Digital Delay with like, a separate tap-tempo thing?
I want to start building my own pedals, too. I got my first amp back from my friend, whom I lent it to for fixing, but it was beyond repair. It's a Fender Frontman 15G, and I'm thinkin' I'll strip it for parts (mostly the input jacks and the pots) and build some pedals out of it. I want the speaker too, because I would love to build a ripoff of a Vox for a practice amp. Do you guys think it'd be possible to do either of those things?
I have a DD-5 with the seperate tap tempo as well.
Building amps is where I am going to draw the line. I don't want to get electrocuted. With pedals at least I am only dealing with 9 volts.
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Yeah. Someone suggested I just turn it into an extension cabinet. I think I might do that.
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So guys, I really want a pitch shifter. I played with boss's model the other day, and it was really fun but I have nothing to compare it to. Are there other options I should be looking at?
I have a Boss PS-5 I enjoy it. You should also look at the digitech whammy pedal. Both are awesome for what they do. I kinda want both of them.
Imagine the sounds you could make if you shifted up an octave with the PS-5 and then back down with the Digitech. You would get this weird but awesome artifacting.
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Unh Unh I got everything sorted on my POD X3LiveABC123اΨά.
I have it set to EAT YOUR BABIES.
Expect your babies to be eaten.
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Unh Unh I got everything sorted on my POD X3LiveABC123اΨά.
I have it set to EAT YOUR BABIES.
Expect your babies to be eaten.
Cool, that's the one setting that is on the HM-2
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Bumping this ancient-ass thread for the Danelectro Tuna Melt. Just got one a few days ago 'cause I've been wanting a tremolo pedal, and I brought her home and rocked Ted Leo's "The Toro and the Toreador" for a good long while. I can't wait to get back home to my Marshall and play with this thing on a real amp instead of that blown-out little 30w toy of an Epiphone bass amp.
I also want to find a pedal that is capable of emulating a rotating speaker cabinet. I've recently had a fascination with the sound of those things. And I'd rather it be just one pedal instead of a chorus pedal and a flanger pedal. Anybody know anything about the BBE Soul Vibe?
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Dude get a Voodoo Labs Micro Vibe. I can't link cause I'm on an iPod Touch but it's a great pedal.
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Got the Moog MF-101 Low Pass Filter recently.
It's great to put it after my looper. Who needs a 303 when you can use a real bass for it? >__<
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Protip: put it in front of your looper so that if you later overdub a guitar part, it's not instantly bassified. That is, loop your bass track in advance rather than waste your looper's capabilities on just that.
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But then you can't tweak!
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Protip: put it in front of your looper so that if you later overdub a guitar part, it's not instantly bassified. That is, loop your bass track in advance rather than waste your looper's capabilities on just that.
I would do this, but I forgot to mention the son of a gun is stereo!
Also, I'm gonna patch my microKorg to send s&h noise to the cutoff and use an external LFO to the Resonance. And for shits and giggles I'll probably patch it thru my stereo delay and send the repeats thru my ring mod.
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I really want to get a 2x12 cabinet for my Marshall just so that I can actually use the stereo panning functions on some of my pedals.
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Yeah, coloring outside the lines is cool.
I have set up before to have my dry signal come from the left, then send my delays to the looper and have the looper come from the right, then send the loops (thru fx, obv) back to the left. Then I decided I wanted to plug something else in and moved the cables around.
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Remind me to invest in a good, high-capacity looper for those times where I will inevitably not be playing with another guitarist. The things my friend and I could accomplish back when it was just the two of us on guitar... I really miss having that dude around.
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I was just rereading this thread, and goddamn, I want a Devi Ever pedal. Either the Hyperion or the White Spider (Nels Cline approved!).
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I have a lot of Devi Ever pedals, and I think the Vintage Fuzz is my favorite... The Shoegazer is also great. Haven't tried the White Spider but I'd really like to.
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The Shoegazer definitely looks interesting, but I promised myself that my next pedal purchase would be a ZVex Fuzz Factory, and I'm sticking to that.
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Man, I suggest that you try a Fuzz Factory out in person before you buy it, if you haven't yet. They are really cool but also a pain in the ass to learn and operate (much harder than the demo video makes it look). The majority of the settings you can dial in produce obnoxious squeals or nothing at all.
That stereo low pass filter, do the instructions say anything about being able to use it mono? My EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai is, well you saw the title, but if you use either channel alone it works perfectly fine.
carrotosaurus, fight you so hard. Those shits are expensive and I want some!
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Were you talking about the Moog MF-101 LPF? It's monaural, but the EHX 2880 is a stereo looper, so I can record something, loop that thru the filter, and loop something else out of the other channel.
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Oh I'm sorry, I thought you meant the Moog pedal is stereo. Yeah, EHX pedals work both stereo and mono so it shouldn't really pose an issue?
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My friend got a T-Rex Mudhoney. It sounds really really good. Quite compressed, but really nice tone, without the boost function on it's a delicious overdrive pedal and with the boost on you get heavy gain somewhere between distortion and fuzz. Lots of crunch.
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T-Rex Mudhoney
(http://www.presentation-partners.co.uk/legend/Story/T.Rex%20at%20Wheeley.jpg)
(http://www.kindamuzik.net/gfx/mudhoney-grp1-0506.jpg)
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Oh I'm sorry, I thought you meant the Moog pedal is stereo. Yeah, EHX pedals work both stereo and mono so it shouldn't really pose an issue?
I guess not? It just depends on what you want to do, really.
Man, I really want to get that new Boss PS-5. I heard that it's got a bit of a delay before it plays, can anyone mention more about that? Also, can you apply CV to the expression pedal input or does it only respond to a pedal? TIA!
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Man who in their right mind would want their Jaguar to be black? The finish is just going to stay the same colour as it ages. Aged nitro finishes look gorgeous, but only if you can see the difference.
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About to post pics that will make you change your mind.
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(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l194/oranggoreng/jms.jpg)
Yum. The burst on the left is a beautifully aged sunburst, and it wasn't even a nitro finish.
(http://www.againstperfection.net/guitars/Lenka/body_in_case2.jpg)
(http://www.againstperfection.net/guitars/Lenka/body_on_case.jpg)
This is kinda cheating though.. That's a black refin without clearcoat, kinda matte.
(http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1832/blackjagblocksuy3.jpg)
And this is a poly finish.
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Meh. Even the gorgeous tortoiseshell pickguard doesn't make up for the lack of personality an all-black guitar has. That burst is stunning, though. Shame I don't have much taste for block inlays. If you took that body and swapped the neck with one from a pre-CBS Jazz, you'd have a winner.
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Man who in their right mind would want their Jaguar to be black? The finish is just going to stay the same colour as it ages. Aged nitro finishes look gorgeous, but only if you can see the difference.
Dude, I dunno. If I ever get a Jazzmaster, it's gonna be black.
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I think that the ultimate Jazzmaster color is Olympic white.
That or Purple Sparkle.
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greenMonkey is correct. Black does not look bad, though. Especially with the tortoise shell pickguard.
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I'm pretty sure a solid rosewood body buffed to hell would be the best wood. Now the only question is to go jm or tele?
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Yeah but the walnut version is prettier. :-D
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Walnut is indeed greater than the black. I've also read it's recommended you change all the pots. Opens up the guitar significantly.
P.S. - I finished building my BYOC Tonebender MKII fuzz clone tonight. It slays. I've got to clean it up a bit, though. The guts are hanging out and I need to wrap the wires so they don't keep bumping up against the in/out jack pins and shorting out the pedal.
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But then you can't tweak!
Also, yes. Exactly!
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Some more Jazzmaster porn, now Deluxe themed. These are both projects from people on offsetguitars.com and they're basically the same.
from user "the older brother"
(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/986/130tg8.jpg)
(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5091/131wy2.jpg)
from user "Jazzprod"
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/Jazzprod/Fender%20Jazzmaster%20DeLuxe%20Project/SL272363.jpg)
I thought there was a black one made but I couldn't find it. Hmm this discussion probably belongs more in the guitar thread than this one...
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I think that the ultimate Jazzmaster color is Olympic white.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/leadhindenburg/IMG_2765.jpg)
GOOD SIR, I DO BELIEVE YOU ARE CORRECT
Sorry it's not a Jazzmaster though. Will a Jag do?
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pictures
Jazzprod's guitar,
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PEDAL THREAD?!
And about a week ago you were talking about getting another cabinet, Patrick.
I heartily recommend Avatar. Also they will wire a 2x12 for stereo. So you could do it w/ one cab.
My experiments in sterererererereo have lead me to simplify, simplify, simplify my pedal/amp/guitar setup.
I started with a stereo guitar, stereo pedal and two amps. Too many things can go wrong/break down. Also live your sound gets a bit hoovered up. Still none of the panning, sweeping, leslie algorithms sound decent the way I am playing.
I'm down to summing my sounds at the guitar. Nitefly--->mogami---->POD--->mogami---->tiny terror----->Avatar212
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JAZZBLASTERS,
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What Matt said, HOLY FUCK.
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I wanna get a Jazzmaster or Jaguar so bad. Hell, even a Squier Jagmaster wouldn't be half-bad either...
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I wanna get a Jazzmaster or Jaguar so bad. Hell, even a Squier Jagmaster wouldn't be half-bad either...
http://www.warmoth.com
the only option for a southpaw
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Wrongo, Fender Japan make lefty Jaguars and Jazzmasters, I think maybe USA Custom Guitars also build left handed parts for these?
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I wanna get a Jazzmaster or Jaguar so bad. Hell, even a Squier Jagmaster wouldn't be half-bad either...
They're not bad, the Jagmasters. I almost bought one of the old 25.5" scale ones a couple of years back.
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If I did get one, I'd probably customize the fuck out of it. Like, throw in some Duncans, get an actuall Jazzmaser tremolo in it...
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Go check Offset. There's quite a few threads where people have filled in the trem cavity just to install a Jazzmaster bridge/trem. They all came out really nice.
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f370/prospect1/My%20Guitars/38b187b3.jpg)
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Wrongo, Fender Japan make lefty Jaguars and Jazzmasters, I think maybe USA Custom Guitars also build left handed parts for these?
Fender Japan makes them, but will no longer sell them to the US. I've looked at some of the Japanese sites, and it's pretty hard to find anybody actually selling one. :/
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Getting back to the subject of effects pedals, I have decided to invest in a Big Muff to go with the amp I just bought and the new guitar I will be buying/getting for Xmas in a few months. What's the best one? At first I thought I'd get the Little Big Muff because it will fit in the lining of my hardshell case, but then I read that Sonic Youth uses the Russian one. I looked at all three at my local guitar store; the Russian one is cheapest, but it is made of plastic. It is $20 cheaper than the LBM but they're all pretty cheap and it would be worth it to play the kind of stuff I play. And yes, I will probably playtest them first if I'm allowed, but three minutes of jamming won't make as much of an impact as people who use them everyday. What do you all think?
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Getting back to the subject of effects pedals, I have decided to invest in a Big Muff to go with the amp I just bought and the new guitar I will be buying/getting for Xmas in a few months. What's the best one? At first I thought I'd get the Little Big Muff because it will fit in the lining of my hardshell case, but then I read that Sonic Youth uses the Russian one. I looked at all three at my local guitar store; the Russian one is cheapest, but it is made of plastic. It is $20 cheaper than the LBM but they're all pretty cheap and it would be worth it to play the kind of stuff I play. And yes, I will probably playtest them first if I'm allowed, but three minutes of jamming won't make as much of an impact as people who use them everyday. What do you all think?
What on earth sort of Russian EHX clone is plastic? I'd kill for one, because every week I trip on my Small Stone and those sharp corners hurt!
The biggest difference is between the russian and the American, iirc, and the main difference between the american regular and the LBM is that the little one's a tad bassier. The American models have true bypass, and so will make a racket when you turn it on or off. The russian one won't.
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You make true bypass sound like a bad thing..
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What on earth sort of Russian EHX clone is plastic?[/quote]
Review on Musician's Friend: I'm not sure what the retail prices are in the US or wherever but I had to mark down the value because it costs about the same as an American Big Muff in NZ. Additionally the plastic on it is a bit shabby, but that's nothing a little modding can't fix.... (continues) Although now that I take a closer look at the specs on there it is described as a metal stomp box, so I lose for reading comprehension. The boxes were in a glass case so I couldn't see them too clearly. I hope I can test them first but I'm leaning toward the Russian based on Youtube clips.
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Whoever wrote that most likely meant the knobs, not the enclosure. This is a Sovtek Big Muff.
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0002CZVKA.01-AIMZUKBRH6H15._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
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The Little Big Muff is also a fuzz, I believe. I guess technically you could say they're all fuzzes, but the Big Muffs are sort of like a distortion/fuzz. Main difference in sound between the American and the Russian is the American is a bit crunchier and the Russian has a smoother, creamier tone. I would love to have a Big Muff, even though I already have a crazy distortion and a fuzz.
Also, Devi Ever, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS7KvTmV8LA) what the hell, man. Why you gots to be makin' crazy ass fuzzes like that?
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Also, Devi Ever, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS7KvTmV8LA) what the hell, man. Why you gots to be makin' crazy ass fuzzes like that?
Holy shit DO WANT!!
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It's pretty off the chain, man.
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Gee thanks, Devi Ever. You owe me new pants.
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JOYSTICK ON FUZZ PEDAL. WANT.
I've always wanted Death By Audio's Total Sonic Annihilation pedal.
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Getting back to the subject of effects pedals, I have decided to invest in a Big Muff to go with the amp I just bought and the new guitar I will be buying/getting for Xmas in a few months. What's the best one? At first I thought I'd get the Little Big Muff because it will fit in the lining of my hardshell case, but then I read that Sonic Youth uses the Russian one. I looked at all three at my local guitar store; the Russian one is cheapest, but it is made of plastic. It is $20 cheaper than the LBM but they're all pretty cheap and it would be worth it to play the kind of stuff I play. And yes, I will probably playtest them first if I'm allowed, but three minutes of jamming won't make as much of an impact as people who use them everyday. What do you all think?
What on earth sort of Russian EHX clone is plastic? I'd kill for one, because every week I trip on my Small Stone and those sharp corners hurt!
The biggest difference is between the russian and the American, iirc, and the main difference between the american regular and the LBM is that the little one's a tad bassier. The American models have true bypass, and so will make a racket when you turn it on or off. The russian one won't.
Actually the recent Russians have been true bypass as well. Mine is.
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Getting back to the subject of effects pedals, I have decided to invest in a Big Muff to go with the amp I just bought and the new guitar I will be buying/getting for Xmas in a few months. What's the best one? At first I thought I'd get the Little Big Muff because it will fit in the lining of my hardshell case, but then I read that Sonic Youth uses the Russian one. I looked at all three at my local guitar store; the Russian one is cheapest, but it is made of plastic. It is $20 cheaper than the LBM but they're all pretty cheap and it would be worth it to play the kind of stuff I play. And yes, I will probably playtest them first if I'm allowed, but three minutes of jamming won't make as much of an impact as people who use them everyday. What do you all think?
What on earth sort of Russian EHX clone is plastic? I'd kill for one, because every week I trip on my Small Stone and those sharp corners hurt!
The biggest difference is between the russian and the American, iirc, and the main difference between the american regular and the LBM is that the little one's a tad bassier. The American models have true bypass, and so will make a racket when you turn it on or off. The russian one won't.
Actually the recent Russians have been true bypass as well. Mine is.
Well I'll be dipped.
I might have to get one sometime to go with my small stone
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(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2203/totleytunnelgr0.jpg)
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Yeah.
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don't be dicks, three quotes hardly counts a tunnel.
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What's a hundred lawyers dead in a ditch? A GOOD START.
Same principle here.
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By that logic, so is one quote.
Which, in that case, I'm with Patrick, we really should start banning for quoting.
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Which, in that case, I'm with Patrick, we really should start banning for quoting.
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I'm Awesome
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Man so I make a joke about something and instantly the thread dies. I haven't felt this awkward since my uncle started talking very candidly about his dick at my grandmother's funeral last year.
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Man so I make a joke about something and instantly the thread dies. I haven't felt this awkward since my uncle started talking very candidly about his dick at my grandmother's funeral last year.
Oh, hush, Captain Beefheart!
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It seems I've gotten here just in time...
I get paid tomorrow, and after getting a Boss DD-7 and an EBow for my birthday (fwiw: The combination of the two is like a liquid sunrise in that it's f-f-fuuh- impossible to describe and comprehend) to get another pedal. I'm deciding to get a Muff (which is ironic, considering the recently-deceased conversation above) and an overdrive, thus formulating the conundrum.
Which is better, a Tube Screamer or a Blues Driver?
The Tube definitely has a hot, thick-yet-subtle sound (on humbuckers, I haven't heard single-coil yet), but the B.D has this thick, vibrating tone, and I think it could achieve the Tube sound and beyond, but I can't be certain until I've tried it. Plus, the latter is cheaper...
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I really don't think Boss distortions sound natural. They've very mechanical-sounding. The Tube Screamer sounds much more natural to me. However, I also find the Tube Screamer a very boring pedal, and if it were me in your boots, I would probably get an MXR Dist. +/DOD 250 or something similar.
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It is considered a distortion, yeah, but I've seen it described as having valve-like qualities. Also, another good overdrive alternative: Fulltone OCD.
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Radial Tonebone Classic (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigation?q=tonebone&st=). By far the best distortion pedal I've ever used. So warm and authentic sounding.
More expensive, even more versatile Radial Tonebone Classic Tri-Mode (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Radial-Tonebone-Classic-TriMode-Distortion-Pedal?sku=153925).
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So I play an Epiphone Dot Studio. I bought a Raven amp just before coming up to college, and haven't had much of a chance to use it yet. When I go back for winter break, I definitely plan on getting some pedals for it and jamming with friends. My problem is, I have 0 experience with pedals. Anyone mind giving me some suggestions to build my tone?
I'm looking for a cleaner tone, something along the lines of Tom Scholz's sound, maybe something closer to Eric Johnson's tone on Cliffs of Dover to add abit of a crunch. Another sound I like is from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4vLEZlnAyo&feature=related
Sorry if I'm sounding a bit vague, but if anyone can help, I'd definitely appreciate some suggestions. I'm a poor college student, so nothing too much, but I definitely want a better tone than what my Raven gives me. At least the tone's clean enough, with no built-in effects to interfere, that pedals should work well with it.
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Has anyone here used any Death By Audio pedals? The fuzz war looks ace but I don't know how versatile it is.
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Radial Tonebone Classic (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigation?q=tonebone&st=). By far the best distortion pedal I've ever used. So warm and authentic sounding.
More expensive, even more versatile Radial Tonebone Classic Tri-Mode (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Radial-Tonebone-Classic-TriMode-Distortion-Pedal?sku=153925).
Dude don't those things use actual tubes? If so, I will begin my lusting.
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At two hundred clams, I'm happy with my Rat2 for now. :|
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Radial Tonebone Classic (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigation?q=tonebone&st=). By far the best distortion pedal I've ever used. So warm and authentic sounding.
More expensive, even more versatile Radial Tonebone Classic Tri-Mode (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Radial-Tonebone-Classic-TriMode-Distortion-Pedal?sku=153925).
Dude don't those things use actual tubes? If so, I will begin my lusting.
Yep. There's a 12AX7 in this sucker.
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I thought so.
At two hundred clams, I'm happy with my Rat2 for now. :|
Haha, I have a vintage RAT all laid out on perfboard I am going to build sometime soon, but with slightly varying components. I tore down my old, broken Fender Frontman 15, and used spare parts from my fuzz build and I'm calling it the FRANKENRAT. It shares components with a Marshall Guv'nor/Blues Breaker.
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FRANKINRAT sounds like something I would sell my left soul for.
Jealousy is making me tell you that I hope it explodes and discourages you from ever attempting to do it ever again.
But the kid in me likes the frosted side.
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Dude don't those things use actual tubes? If so, I will begin my lusting.
Yep. There's a 12AX7 in this sucker.
Man if I didn't want to get Tara something nice for Christmas and her birthday in May, I would grab one of these -right fucking now-
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FRANKINRAT sounds like something I would sell my left soul for.
Jealousy is making me tell you that I hope it explodes and discourages you from ever attempting to do it ever again.
But the kid in me likes the frosted side.
It probably isn't going to sound anything like a RAT since most of the components that give the RAT is signature sound are different. I just used a RAT schematic because I really dislike Marshall pedals.
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Man if I didn't want to get Tara something nice for Christmas and her birthday in May, I would grab one of these -right fucking now-
inorite. I swear I'm about to sell my Stereo Memory Man for it.
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Hey Pat: go go go
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/msg/907210471.html
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man, i'm wonderin if it's worth six, seven hundred to get the Moog delay...
i know i'm a sucker even thinkin it, but damn, that's a sweet delay. and it's V C!
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Gene I can't do Craigslist, I am in Albania. I am not gonna trust anybody on the inter-blags with my credit information! I'll do eBay so I can use PayPal instead.
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Any word on the EHX Polychorus? Wondering about these guys lately.
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Wow I didn't know Boss made anything that interesting.
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Me either.
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Boss DF-2 Super Feedbacker Distortion.
Welcome to "the pedal Boris named an entire album after".
Guys, I'm having some problems with my Guv'Nor 2. It's fine when bypassed, but when on...
http://www.mediafire.com/?j2nyh0dm3w4
I can alter this tone with the tone and volume pots on my guitar, all the pedal controls (volume/deep/bass/mid/treble/gain), and my amp's EQ. What the hell?
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Dude don't those things use actual tubes? If so, I will begin my lusting.
Yep. There's a 12AX7 in this sucker.
Man if I didn't want to get Tara something nice for Christmas and her birthday in May, I would grab one of these -right fucking now-
the Tone Bone pedals are nice. I used a Hot British until I got my Marshall. if you're looking to a SICK tube driven distortion pedal try and find one of the old Soldano Superchargers. they blow away anything Radial has put out. downside is they were discontinued due to an increase in the price of metal a while back. they're built like tanks and i guess the amount of metal going into them was making them to expensive. anyway, they're by far the nicest distortion pedal i've had the pleasure of playing.
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That Supercharger looks like cool shit. What really sold me on the Tonebone Tri-Mode though is the EQ, output settings and multiple gain settings with dedicated footswitches. I'm looking to get an Orange Tiny Terror and that amp's main fault has to be it's simplicity. Volume, Tone, Gain knobs and nothing else. So for bedroom levels or times when I want a little more control over my tone (rather than the one wonderful setting the Terror has, "LOUD ROKK"), the extra stuff is nice. Only justified of course by the beautiful distortion they produce.
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Frantone Cream Puff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15CROjPbddA).
Ahublahshgghfghhhhhhh.
I really want that. Bonus points because it's pink.
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So I need a reverb pedal. Do I go with an RV3, a Holy Grail, or something completely different?
Tell me things guitar nerds! (Oh I don't know if this is worth noting but I play a warwick convertte through an ampeg. whee)
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Get the Fender Reverb Unit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSHGeOD8HGQ)! Not some silly IC reverb simulator!
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Dear fucking god, that is the most amazing thing I have ever seen. How much is that though?
Edit: I also don't know how useful that would be to me. I need reverb for bowing/gy!be style screwdrivering/other post rock shit, and wouldn't a hall style reverb a la the holy grail be better?
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Frantone Cream Puff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15CROjPbddA).
Ahublahshgghfghhhhhhh.
I really want that. Bonus points because it's pink.
Damn you. I was SOOO set on getting a Big Muff, and now I have to decide between Puff and Muff. I hate being indecisive.
EDIT: Holy butt. $219 for a Cream Puff. My pants have just zipped themselves back up.
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Dear fucking god, that is the most amazing thing I have ever seen. How much is that though?
Edit: I also don't know how useful that would be to me. I need reverb for bowing/gy!be style screwdrivering/other post rock shit, and wouldn't a hall style reverb a la the holy grail be better?
Perhaps, and I'll admit, the Holy Grail does sound pretty close to a valve-driven reverb. The Reverb unit is also roughly six hundred dollars. My guess is, that's a little more than you're willing to spend.
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I'm a huge fan of the Holy Grail, just make sure you only use the power supply it came with, don't expect to plug your onespot in and have it work. Otherwise it's ridiculously noisy.
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Yeah, I've heard it's very picky about its power supplies. It can't use nine volt batteries can it?
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Hahaha holy fuck Matt, that guy's hair.
The Holy Grail has spring, hall, and flurb (trippy, shoegazey reverb with modulation) and you can switch between them with the flick of a switch. I highly recommend it.
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That Supercharger looks like cool shit. What really sold me on the Tonebone Tri-Mode though is the EQ, output settings and multiple gain settings with dedicated footswitches. I'm looking to get an Orange Tiny Terror and that amp's main fault has to be it's simplicity. Volume, Tone, Gain knobs and nothing else. So for bedroom levels or times when I want a little more control over my tone (rather than the one wonderful setting the Terror has, "LOUD ROKK"), the extra stuff is nice. Only justified of course by the beautiful distortion they produce.
i used to have a tiny terror through a marshall cab as a "for shits" rig. since its only 7/15 watts it ran really well at bedroom levels. the lack of an equalizer does mean you can't tweek the tone of the amp, but i found i could get enough variation just by switching what guitar i used or what pick i used. the biggest problem i found with the terror was resisting the urge to just crank up all the knobs ;)
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Hahaha holy fuck Matt, that guy's hair.
Ahaha, I know!
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Only difference being that this is gonna be my primary/live rig. I could use the versatility.
Also my bedroom level is probably significantly below yours cause I live in a yuppie hole of a neighborhood in an apartment building full of lawyers and little kids. None of whom are cool enough to appreciate the rokk.
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That's lame. The house closest to me is about ten yards away from my window. Apparently, some people can hear me halfway up the street when I play in the garage in the summer and crank my Deville to get it to overdrive naturally. Which I figured out a about a week ago that the reason I thought it's natural overdrive was muddy and shitty was because I had too much bass.
On that note, something that has always interested me: I've always wondered what other people dial in their EQs at.
Before, I used to have mine set as Treble: 10 Mids: 5 Bass: 9. Then I figured out that my guitar sounded a whole lot better both distorted and clean with it set at: T: 10 M: 7 B: 8. I also have the Bright switch engaged because I like to roll back on my guitar's volume a bit to reduce some of the buzz from my pickups, since I use a distortion right into a fuzz and the amounts of gain are pretty ridiculous.
What about you guys?
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10 - 10 - 10
RAWK
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Man when we used to play at my old drummer's house (he lives on the third floor of a building with vaulted ceilings) we were once told that at band practice volume, we could be heard across the street in Riverside Park.
Mind you he lives on the western edge of Manhattan (the bustling metropolis section of New York you usually hear about) and the "street" in question empties out into a highway and is the divider between the end of the city grid and a sprawling park. So this is something like 50 feet down and 65 across.
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Man when we used to play at my old drummer's house (he lives on the third floor of a building with vaulted ceilings) we were once told that at band practice volume, we could be heard across the street in Riverside Park.
Mind you he lives on the western edge of Manhattan (the bustling metropolis section of New York you usually hear about) and the "street" in question empties out into a highway and is the divider between the end of the city grid and a sprawling park. So this is something like 50 feet down and 65 across.
That's some fucking loud Simon & Garfunkeling, man.
Seriously though, what do you play to merit that decibel level?
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Man when we used to play at my old drummer's house (he lives on the third floor of a building with vaulted ceilings) we were once told that at band practice volume, we could be heard across the street in Riverside Park.
Mind you he lives on the western edge of Manhattan (the bustling metropolis section of New York you usually hear about) and the "street" in question empties out into a highway and is the divider between the end of the city grid and a sprawling park. So this is something like 50 feet down and 65 across.
So about 82 feet in a straight line!
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Just rock 'n' roll. I've never been much interested in metal or any abrasive, dissonant music. I suppose its just the acoustics provided by the wide open expanse created by the lack of buildings at the edge of the city.
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i just found an early 90's sovtek big muff for $30 at a pawn shop last week.
just thought i would throw that out there.
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Did you buy it?
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Yeah, might have to buy it myself and beat you over the head with it if you didn't.
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Man I need to hang around pawn shops more often.
You have no idea how many stories I've heard about getting nice gear ultra cheap at pawn shops.
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yeah of course i bought it!
i kind of prefer it to an american one because the smoother distortion sounds nicer on a bluesy amp.
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Yeah, the Russian ones are hell of smooth compared to the Americans.
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A friend from the Parker forum is unloading a bunch of his pedals. Some are custom jobs. Worth checking out!
http://www.diyguitarist.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=760 (http://www.diyguitarist.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=760)
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All those overdrive and distortion units looked pretty rad until I listened to the sound samples. They're all rather muddy.
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Holy shit, you guys. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cdmqf0plnI&feature=related)
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Man that is cool but kind of pales in comparison to most Devi Ever and Z.Vex fuzz pedals. Also to the EHX MicroSynth.
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Yeah, it's kind of a fuzz, kind of a flanger, but it was still kind of cool.
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pales in comparison to most Devi Ever
You will someday be mine, Shoegazer. SOMEDAY.
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It isn't. You can only play one note at a time or it sounds really strange and amps generally can't handle it. Also it has an attack delay but no decay which means the notes just cut out awkwardly.
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I like it in spite of it, though I doubt I'd ever buy it. Maybe a POG or a HOG.
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POGs are pretty kickass, and they have two outputs so you can effectify one channel and use the other for decoration.
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This is fucking cool. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYb35FFnWPE)
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As posted in the Guitar Topic and the Blog Thread, I just got my final paycheck from work.
Gene, prepare to be made jealous, I'm getting that damn Tonebone Trimode as soon as I can deposit that fucker.
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I got myself a Holy Grail today. I haven't done much with it yet since I have a bunch of work to do but from what little I have done with it I can say oh my god yes
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This is fucking cool. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYb35FFnWPE)
WANT.
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That Clari(not) really is way too fucking cool.
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This is fucking cool. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYb35FFnWPE)
I didn't know God was a guitar pedal.
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Fight you Patrick!
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I have a ToneBoner
Fixed.
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I've got a couple questions:
First up, anyone else try the Boss OS-2 ? I don't have much to compare it with, but it seems to give some decent dirt at the cost of being really noisy when you aren't playing.
Second, I recently picked up a FM100H head; as a solid-state head, would a Tube Screamer sound horrible with it?
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From what I've heard, yes. At least, from real gearheads. I have a friend who runs a Tube Screamer infront of a Line 6 Spyder, I think, and he says it sounds good.
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It won't work like it does with a tube amp, where it just overdrives the amp more. Instead it will give the solid state amp a vaguely tubish sound and a little bit of a set overdrive sound. It won't sound like ass, but it won't be brilliant either.
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If you want nice crunch on a solid-state amp, go for something less organic sounding like a ProCo RAT. TS-808s are overdrives, they're not meant to distort so much as to overdrive your tubes, creating natural distortion.
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Besides, RATs are better than everything else, ever.
(Except for Big Muffs. I have a huge boner for RATs and Big Muffs. Why anyone would use anything else is beyond me.)
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You obviously missed all of my wankery about the Radial Tonebone Trimode.
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Ok, so I would like to get an overdrive or distortion pedal. My amp is an old solid-state Traynor TS-50. It is very nice clean, and has a luscious spring reverb tank in it, but the gain is very sterile and is only good for Shellac-esque screeching. I would like to get some very warm, relaxed, smoothly overdriven tones, as that would be better for the band that I am currently playing in. I play mostly rhythm. What pedal (under $100) would be best for what I want?
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You obviously missed all of my wankery about the Radial Tonebone Trimode.
It is quite possible I didn't find it all that impressive. I thought it was versatile and it sounded good, but I still love the gritty, brittle RAT tones. There is just something about it...
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(under $100)
This complicates things. I suppose your best bet is a ProCo RAT as well.
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With the Rat, if you're vaguely confident with a soldering iron there's a fairly simple mod you can do that gives you the option of a warmer, softer distortion that's a little more overdrive-y at lower gain levels. I posted about it earlier in the thread.
Here, this is the thing: http://www.diyguitaramp.com/rat.html (http://www.diyguitaramp.com/rat.html). Only I added a switch to it, rather than cutting the resistor permanently.
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Speaking of pedal mods, I just got my Boss DD-6 back from Analogman for a high-end cut mod (http://www.analogman.com/dd5.htm). Since the DD-6 is a digital delay (fail), the decays are super treble-y and pretty harsh to the ear. It sounds infinitely better than before. Every decay is pure and warmer than the previous. I will probably get a true analog delay at some point (probably a Memory Man) in the not-so-near future, but for now my modded DD-6 is awesome.
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With the Rat, if you're vaguely confident with a soldering iron there's a fairly simple mod you can do that gives you the option of a warmer, softer distortion that's a little more overdrive-y at lower gain levels. I posted about it earlier in the thread.
Here, this is the thing: http://www.diyguitaramp.com/rat.html (http://www.diyguitaramp.com/rat.html). Only I added a switch to it, rather than cutting the resistor permanently.
Oh, right. The Reutz mod. Why anyone would ever want to change the way a RAT sounds is something I just do not understand.
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There's a way to install a Ruetz RAT switch so that it's reversible.
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Yeah, I know.
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The reason I did it is versatility, mainly - I love the way the RAT sounds as stock, but the idea of being able to get some warmer, more gentle distortion out of it as well is pretty appealing. I really don't understand why anyone would do something as permanent as cutting the resistor, because the original sound is great, but with the switch installed I have sonic options.
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What is the general opinion on the Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive?
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I've heard good stuff about them. Here's a demo by World Music Supply. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmXVKWFBHRA)
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EHX Double Muff = LOVE IT. It's so rad. The single channel is really fat sounding overdrive, and the double channel throws in some serious fuzz. Plus it comes in a cool-looking box.
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/captain_applesauce/1225080838.jpg)
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hey, pedal noob here!
I was wondering how I could get the Phil Elverum/Microphones brand of Lo-Fi fuzz. What kind of pedals would I need?
Does he do it without pedals and just his amps overdrive?
Thanks.
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Everyone got me guitar center gift cards for christmas. Cash would have been so much better. Anyway, I'm thinking of picking up a delay pedal. I can't go over $250.
I was thinking about the AKAI E2 Headrush or the TC Electronics ND-1 Nova. Any suggestions?
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Boss RE-20 Space Echo. It's a pretty faithful recreation of the old Roland Space Echoes, and it's got a tap-tempo.
hey, pedal noob here!
I was wondering how I could get the Phil Elverum/Microphones brand of Lo-Fi fuzz. What kind of pedals would I need?
Does he do it without pedals and just his amps overdrive?
Thanks.
I think I read something somewhere that Jeff Mangum of Neutral Milk Hotel would get this kind of distortion by overloading the microphones in the studio, but a good germanium or silicon fuzz might get you in the ballpark. Maybe even a Big Muff Pi.
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Yep.
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hey, pedal noob here!
I was wondering how I could get the Phil Elverum/Microphones brand of Lo-Fi fuzz. What kind of pedals would I need?
Does he do it without pedals and just his amps overdrive?
Thanks.
Read http://e6townhall.com/showthread.php?t=12338 for some info.
"I'm pretty sure I've sussed it. That Early NMH/On Avery Island fuzz sound is an electro acoustic (i.e. one with an undersaddle pickup) run into the 4 track's mixer and yeah, you turn the input gain up like fuck and then pull it back with the fader (otherwise you go deaf). I approximated it on my cover of Snow Song Pt.1 (as I didn't have my 4 track at that point) by running the pickup into a very very cheap danelectro mini amp, with a tiny bit of gain on it. I then ran the headphone output of that into my 4 track.
EDIT: Oh yeah, pedals. As far as I can tell he only uses fuzz and I'm told that that's a Russian Big Muff. So there we are."
The Microphones sound is similar.
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Sweet, thanks everyone!
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That Boss RE-20 looks badass, but I'm kind of digging on this TC Electronics box simply because you can play a phrase and let the pedal figure out the BPM.
Maybe that's just a frivolous excess, though.
*edit: removed nonsense.
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So guys I'm selling my EHX Memory Man w/ Hazarai, Holy Grail, and RAT 2 (the latter in favor of a Radial Tonebone Tri-mode somewhere down the line) to get my iPhone back.
I was excited about all of these when I bought them but honestly, I've grown tired of them and I hardly ever use them. None of the pedals I own are practical besides the stage tuner and the wah, both of which I'm keeping.
I do want a nice tube distortion as mentioned above, a simpler delay pedal (seriously the MM is just confusing no matter how much you get used to it), a nice tremolo, and I'll be golden.
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So guys, guess who is the new owner of a Dunlop Original Crybaby reissue!
Me! I am!
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Yeah, I've got a 535Q that I love. Wah is the funnest effect.
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Imapiratearg, I took your advice and got the RE-20. I spent around 2 hours yesterday just making loud noises and freaking out my girlfriend's cats. I can't wait until I get my next commission check so that I can buy an expression pedal and actively control the TWIST function.
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(http://www.ehx.com/assets/blog/mogwai-big-muff-pi.jpg)
http://www.ehx.com/blog/mogwai-big-muff-pi
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That's brilliant.
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I think every pedal should have a "Rock" pot.
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Even better is that the pot right after that is called Action.
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For those keeping score at home..
(http://www.rockstar.it/img/mogwai_rock_action.jpg)
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Or http://www.rock-action.co.uk/
Both count!
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Oh shit, I think I need that! But I already have a double muff, so it's rather low on my priority list at the moment.
Speaking of which, I kind of want to buy a loop pedal, so, do you have any suggestions?
Also, where do I put a loop pedal in my setup? Currently it is like this:
guitar -> double muff -> aweseome vintage orange amp (yeah, i have to say it that way) -> effects loop out -> Electro Harmonix Holy Grail reverb -> effects loop in -> speaker. Sometimes there is a delay somwhere in between, but I honestly can't remember where that was, it's been a year since I used it, since I only use it for weird noises when we play gigs.
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A few posts back, someone was talking about the lo-fi fuzz on NMH albums - Robert describes what he did while recording that album in really great detail in the 33 1/3 book. There's also a couple posts kicking around the townhall he wrote about using the Radio Shack PZM mic for recording drums if I remember correctly... I've got a PZM and it does capture that over-gained maxxed out drum sound from The Glow, Pt. 2 (you know the one) but I honestly haven't recorded with it in a really long time. I think the PZM is no longer made.
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Okay so I need a volume pedal so I can do awesome low end bowed swells that are fucking awesome/actually have some control over my volume.
What do you guys recommend?
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Yeah the ernie ball jr is awesome.
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got a digitech reverb pedal. It's not the most subtle or warm thing ever but it does the whole "playing in a really massive cathedral" thing rather well, and with my space echo added in the FX chain it's pretty much the best sounding thing ever.
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Dear Guitar Pedal Thread,
I give you the Phaseur Fleur (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwbU6vgECWo) by 4MS pedals. You may note the crazy space sounds and crazy tremolo-esque awesomeness at the end of the demo.
I guess the overall gist of this post is: OMGWANTWANTWANTWANT
Love,
Matt
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So back in March or April or so, I bought a EHX H.O.G., but then developed car problems and had to return it. :-(
To think that if my engine hadn't spontaneously exploded (the mechanic told me he found piston bits in the underneath-pan-thingy), I'd still have it today. It was fun to mess around with.
In any case, last month I bought a Digitech RP-90 multi-effects pedal. Given that I've been playing for less than a year and know near nothing about guitar effects, this is probably best (experimentation and all that). For one thing, I've found that, as retarded as this may sound, I prefer the tone of a simulated acoustic to that of a real one. At least, I prefer my Squier Strat as a simulated acoustic to my Dad's particular Taylor acoustic. I dunno. It does seem likely I'm not getting all the subtlety I would with a real steel string, but I'm surprised at the subtlety I am getting.
Not that any of you guys care, or even should. This thread is rightly more about good guitar pedals. I guess what I'm saying is that, at my experience level, a multi-effects pedal is a good pedal. Or is this a more widely shared sentiment than I'm lead to believe?
Okay, two major downsides to the rp90: you can't change all the settings you'd be able to on a dedicated 'unipedal,' and none of the pitch shifting effects are polyphonic. Even if I like the tone I get, that's enough to motivate me to get better stuff.
I'm going to shut up now.
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I still have an RP100. My wife (bassist) uses it for the clickity-click built in drum thing to practice scales. When I first got it I found some cool tones for recording. But then I turned a knob and lost that forever. The tuner didn't work worth a f3ck after about the first week. The drum sounds speed up/slow down randomly. And when you find a bitchin' sound and then want to change to another patch you have about a second gap before the next patch sounds. That would be my biggest complaint. But if you are doing tracking sans amplifier it saves you some trouble with microphones, phasing etc...
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So I am now pretty much in love with this thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJPde-C28iU.
I played it at guitar center today. I must have it.
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I too has an RP100. Maybe I should actually use it for recording but I'm far too retarded/impatient with it to use it live.
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Has anyone had experience with a new Russian Big Muff? If so, what are your thoughts?
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i'm thinking of getting a fuzz factory. any word on the sound? also i mostly play the bass, but i would like a pedal that would work with the guitar and bass so that i could use the same pedal for both. from what i've seen, the fuzz factor is a sick choice for guitar, but i would like to know a pedal that was good for both instruments.
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The rp90 is much much nicer than the rp100 (they're part of different series, I think). It's extremely easy to use--elementary and intuitive. You just have to keep the manual or, even better, a printout of all the available options around. I need to make that printout, it is a little frustrating to have to shuffle through pages and pages.
Or you can give the manual a read-through and go with the different options by their sounds.
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i'm thinking of getting a fuzz factory. any word on the sound? also i mostly play the bass, but i would like a pedal that would work with the guitar and bass so that i could use the same pedal for both. from what i've seen, the fuzz factor is a sick choice for guitar, but i would like to know a pedal that was good for both instruments.
As far as ZVex Pedals go, the Woolly Mammoth (http://media.zvex.com/FLASH/MAMMOTH/) works for both guitar and bass and sounds pretty bad-ass, but they are not cheap.
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If anyone has experience in using distortion pedals with instruments other than guitars, I'd appreciate some recommendations.
Basically my set-up at the moment has a gameboy running nanoloop/LSDJ, trumpet, harmonium, vocals and dodgy synth keyboard going through a loop-station pedal into a mixer. I've then got an FX send from the mixer running through a mini kaoss pad. I'm thinking of getting a distortion pedal added into the FX loop. Can anyone recommend a pedal that'd work across a wide range of frequencies/timbres?
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I know that ProCo RATs will work on both keyboards and basses. I think Big Muffs do that kind of thing fairly well, too.
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but also check out the death by audio fuzz war or a big muff, as mentioned above.
I've been digging huge on the Danelectro French Toast lately. As it goes, the prexy of Dano used to work for Foxx, and the French Toast is a dead-on clone of the Foxx Tone Machine, but at $40 instead of $200. Plus it's got an octave up switch to go along with the fuzz.
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So, I'm not sure if it's come up in this thread before, but I'm wondering if anyone has ever used or even heard of the Boss Hr-2 Harmonist pedal? I've been reading up on it and it seems like a pretty interesting effect, intelligent 2 voice pitch shifting. It's supposed to "harmonize" with your playing, so you have to set the key your in and everything.
http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/1995/HR-2.html
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I once heard Cher uses that on her vocals.
Or someone like Cher.
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So, I'm not sure if it's come up in this thread before, but I'm wondering if anyone has ever used or even heard of the Boss Hr-2 Harmonist pedal? I've been reading up on it and it seems like a pretty interesting effect, intelligent 2 voice pitch shifting. It's supposed to "harmonize" with your playing, so you have to set the key your in and everything.
http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/1995/HR-2.html
I think Takeshi from Boris uses it live for vocals on "Statement". Sounds too machine-like, ehhh.
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I just discovered BYOC from lurking this forum at work a couple weeks ago, and I ordered the new Overdrive pedal with the confidence boost. The only thing I've ever soldered before is the battery wiring on my Parker. Am I in over my head here?
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Nope - they're easy as long as you have patience.
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As far as ZVex Pedals go, the Woolly Mammoth (http://media.zvex.com/FLASH/MAMMOTH/) works for both guitar and bass and sounds pretty bad-ass, but they are not cheap.
Yeah that sounds great and seems to have the versatility that i'm looking for, but may be out of my price range for a bit. Thanks for the tip and maybe i'll be able to hook myself up with one in the future and leave a post on how it is.
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on my Parker.
No idea about your question. But what model Parker? (me = '06 Nitefly M. the M is for "Mmmmmm")
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I think I'm gonna spring for a Russian Big Muff as soon as I find out how expensive my bicycle is going to be. I'm very excited: my distortion needs are currently filled by the gain knob on my vintage (solid state) Traynor TS-50 (gorgeous clean tone, luscious spring reverb tank built in, but absolute shite gain), and possibly the most disgusting distortion pedal I have ever heard: the Danelectro "Black Licorice" Beyond Metal pedal. This pedal is ridiculous. There is no gain or drive knob; the level of distortion stays the same all the time, and it's really crazy. There is a level knob, a bass knob, and an octave down switch, which is most definitely not polyphonic, and tends to cut in and out depending on what note you are playing. No matter where you stand in relation to you amp the pedal creates copious amounts of feedback which screech at ear-raping volumes. The one good quality is that it sounds awesome palm muted.
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Does it at least clean up well when you roll off you guitar's volume?
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on my Parker.
No idea about your question. But what model Parker? (me = '06 Nitefly M. the M is for "Mmmmmm")
Dark red Fly Classic. Not sure what year it is, I'm the third member of my family to own it, so its pretty old. I love it for clean sounds but for most other things I like my new Tele with lace sensors.
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http://www.parkerguitars.com/forum !
Good place for all knowledge Parker-ish. I'm on there as doombilly.
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I think I'm gonna spring for a Russian Big Muff as soon as I find out how expensive my bicycle is going to be.
I played one of these over the weekend, they're right about it being smoother than the American made ones. It was a little too smooth for my tastes. I'm going with a Little Big Muff if I ever get a Muff.
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So, I've been thinking that RATs aren't exactly good for the psychedelic pop kind of stuff I write (think The Apples in Stereo and such), and I really want a Big Muff. But I can't decide if I want a Russian or a USA muff.
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I can't imagine what the warm crunchiness of the Big Muff would do for an Apples in Stereo sound. You'd probably do best with a Sovtek, if it really is smoother.
Side note, I know that this forum is all for the Big Muff, but I haven't heard anyone talk about this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfd8h3OVq3o) yet. What do you guys make of it? I feel like I need it because it's the green equivalent of the Big Muff, but I'm not sure if that's just me yearning for the old Super Mario Bros. days or not.
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Link's broken, bro.
I did some research, and apparently, Robert Schneider uses a Big Muff and a Boss FZ-1 for boosts.
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Link's broken, bro.
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfd8h3OVq3o (http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfd8h3OVq3o)
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Oh that. It's pretty nifty. It appears EHX pay attention to the DIY community.
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Fixed the link on mine as well. That surprises me that he uses a Muff, but I still contend that you should get the Russian version.
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Woo! Just got a slightly used Boss Ce-5 on ebay for $40!
Firebird VII -> Compression Sustainer (Boss Cs-3) -> Chorus (Boss Ce-5) -> Fender Twin Reverb
Mmmmmm
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Ooofh. That sounds like a pretty setup.
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I don't know about pretty, the Chorus has this ink all over it. Looks like a pen exploded on it or something.
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Well, there that went.
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Wheee... just listened to Welcome to Sky Valley a couple of times, smoked up, and decided it would be a good idea to buy death by audio's fuzz war.
so I guess that's in the mail now.
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haha, no i got what he was saying. It's gonna sound damn pretty when the thing finally comes. I'm just saying, the chorus pedal looks like someone pissed ink all over it:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/a8e9_1.jpg)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/a8e9_1.jpg)
You have a pedal thal looks like Cookies N' Cream ice cream and you're complaining?
We called that 'character' back in 'Nam.
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Who said I'm complaining? Damned if that ugly sob doesn't look perfect.
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BLAR
How is that chorus pedal compared to, say, a Tsunami? I just got one and it gets the job done I guess.
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So, I'm not sure if it's come up in this thread before, but I'm wondering if anyone has ever used or even heard of the Boss Hr-2 Harmonist pedal? I've been reading up on it and it seems like a pretty interesting effect, intelligent 2 voice pitch shifting. It's supposed to "harmonize" with your playing, so you have to set the key your in and everything.
http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/1995/HR-2.html
I haven't used this model but I got the Boss SUPER Shifter PS-5 yesterday and
Haven't put it down. Well, I did, on the floor but I've been playing every spare minute.
It knows scales better than the other guitarist in the band so it's like, -Hey, I'm in Thin Lizzy now
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I have been meaning to post about this here for more than a month. Tooooooootally got a Tonebone Classic Distortion for Christmas. I have yet to make it sound bad, and believe me, I have tried. You can turn up the treble all the way and kill the bass and mids, and it just sounds like a '20s radio. Go the exact opposite way and you sound like a jazz box in a room filled with weed smoke. YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS THING SOUND BAD.
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Who forgot to thank the person who reminded you that you should buy one?
That is just impolite, Patrick.
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I didn't buy one, I asked for it for Christmas. Biiiiiiiiiiig difference.
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Pedant.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/a8e9_1.jpg)
You have a pedal thal looks like Cookies N' Cream ice cream and you're complaining?
We called that 'character' back in 'Nam.
I couldn't find any Boss pedals when I was in Viet Nam, only DOD's and 10 year old Ibanez Soundtanks.
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Guys, is there a such thing as a pedal that replicates the sound of an overdriven Tascam 424 preamp?
I can't imagine it being useful for anything except for awesome
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How exactly does that sound? Because you can sort of buy distortion or overdrive pedals that function like preamps.
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If anyone does it, it'd be Tech 21 (http://www.tech21nyc.com/products/sansamp/index.html). I don't know shit about this particular amp so I'm just linking you to their product catalog.
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I would guess Tech 21 probably wouldn't, though you might be able to close to what you want. I'm not a huge fan of modeling, but if I did buy a modeling pedal/amp, it would be a Tech 21. A close friend had their 2x12 combo, and it was pretty great.
Guys, I finally traded in my nasty ass Danelectro "Black Licorice Beyond Metal" pedal for a Boss Super Overdrive, and I'm pretty happy so far. The drive knob offers a lot of versatility, going from a simple tone boost when it's all the way off to some pretty serious crunch crunch chug-a-chug-WEE when it's all the way up. I haven't had the time to play with tone and level yet (I literally just got it), but so far it is meeting my needs.
Edit: to clarify the Tech 21 thing, they do modeling very very well, but it's aimed at (what they think are) the three classic styles of amps: British (Marshall), Tweed (Fender), and California (Mesa).
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Goddamnit you guys.
I want a TC Electronics Nova Delay and I want it now.
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I would guess Tech 21 probably wouldn't, though you might be able to close to what you want
That's pretty much what I intended.
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http://www.buildyourownclone.com/phaser.html
I'm buying this, and my best friend's boyfriend is going to assemble it for me. Wooo!
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The question is, which one of you guys gets the better deal from your best friend? ;)
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Man, I'm getting a fucking phaser.
Obviously she is.
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^I'll have to bookmark that site. That's a pretty good option, if you're any good at fine electronics soldering.
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Yeah, they have a deal where they send you a test-kit/linear booster for free if it's your first kit. I'm going to order one so I can learn to solder after he builders the phaser for me.
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No Shane I meant you or the boyfriend. Which one of you gets the better deal from the girl who is your best friend?
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Probably him.
But they are planning on moving up north and getting an apartment with me next winter. So I suppose it's a win-win situation.
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Anyone have experience with different tuning pedals? I have a decently crappy chromatic tuner that I bother so little with I almost always tune by ear. I wanted to get something in my pedal setup, probably a strobotuner. I know Peterson makes a 10th of a cent Strobostomp, but I've read of a few reliability issues from Harmony Central reviews. I understandably don't want to spend $200 on something that is going to fail during a show or a week after the warranty expires.
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do you tune to 440 or something else?
why not just get the boss if y're @ 440? i've seen that in more rigs than fucking instrument cables, which has gotta say something
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Yeah the BOSS TU-2 (http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-TU2-Chromatic-Stompbox-Tuner?sku=213012) is pretty standard fare. Reliable, from personal experience.
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The Fender tuner pedals are pretty good as well, but I think the Boss is true-bypass, whereas the Fenders aren't.
(I could be wrong about that, though. I don't remember)
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Boss use a buffered bypass, I think.
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Alls I know is that it's the ONLY pedal in my friend's setup. Telecaster, TU-2, and a JCM900 head set to loooooud.
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If you are really going to shit yourself about a non-true-bypass tuner get a Planet Waves (http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Planet-Waves-Chromatic-Pedal-Tuner?sku=210064) Chromatic Tuner. Pretty much the same thing as the BOSS only true-bypass and chromed out.
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I think my ears are getting better. Instead of hearing a big dark blur, I'm hearing a big light blur.
But seriously, I've just discovered how horribly just the bypass on my Digitech rp90 multieffects pedal mangles my tone. I'd begun to notice the cruminess of non-bypass-ness, but this just takes el cako.
I know this is all a matter of opinion, and I'm probably not going to do it (the pedal is still good for experimentation and performance in front of non-audiophiles), but if I were to sell the pedal, what single pedal (c. $100) would it be wisest to replace it with?
Eh, I'll answer that myself, so as not to commandeer the thread. Probably one single relatively versatile distortion. Except I've got a really good amp with really good distortion, it just needs a fuse and the cap that covers the fuse socket.
Maybe a Wah.
In reality, if I was going to sell it, I'd put the money toward a Megatar. That's what I'm trying to save up for for now. Then an EHX h.o.g., then an EHX voice box. Then a G&L s-500 guitar. Then a really good looper, like the ehx 2880.
I guess I need to check out other companies, see how their pedals compare to the particular EHX pedals I just listed.
Then maybe a smoke machine, though I'd only use it in my bedroom. How do people with smoke machines see their pedals?
Oh, no wait. After saving up for the G&L s-500, I'd maybe save up for one of those electronic drum kits, then I could record stuff by myself and give it away at lossless quality because I only do it for the music.
I'm going to stop rambling now.
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Megatar? Oh god why?
EHX H.O.G. - pretty cool but the least versatile pedal you will ever own
Electronic drum kit - always a bad choice
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Megatar? Oh god why?
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Za0c8SPj0Q), and, eventually, something like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K27EQ5qIZo8) (maybe), but with both melody and bass. And not maybe fake. This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJeD8ckihN8) is the whole thing, but imagine if the audience could actually see your fingers!
And I'd re-get the h.o.g. (had it for 2 weeks, I think I've mentioned, then returned it for the money because of car troubles) even if only to use it for its killer polyphonic octaverness.
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I'd like to play a megatar, but I wouldn't want anybody to see it. Thing is ugly.
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I think my ears are getting better. Instead of hearing a big dark blur, I'm hearing a big light blur.
But seriously, I've just discovered how horribly just the bypass on my Digitech rp90 multieffects pedal mangles my tone. I'd begun to notice the cruminess of non-bypass-ness, but this just takes el cako.
Ahahaha. If I bypass my RP50 and use my amp's distortion, it's just this mega-quiet ball of beyond-fuzz.
Though, speaking of Digitech, I hear nothing but greatness about that cheap little "Bad Monkey" OD pedal they have.
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Digitech's overdrive/distortion pedals are not half bad at all.
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I'm tempted to get one, but I've already got (and love) a Double Muff for OD.
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I want to build a clean boost like the Super Hard-On.
Can anyone point me to some schematics?
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http://analogguru.an.ohost.de/193/schematics/Zvex_SHO.gif
You could also try searching the BYOC forums if you want a layout. They've got a massive, collective boner for the SHO over there.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/peterherman/31a3_1.jpg)
edit: um FUCK YEAH I just bought a '79 MXR Distortion +.
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Shane I beseech you to point towards the Pacific when you jizz uncontrollably.
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I am jealous.
So very jealous.
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You too, Matt!
If it rains jizz tomorrow I'll know who to blame.
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Shane I beseech you to point towards the Pacific when you jizz uncontrollably.
HEY PATRICK, I HOPE YOU HAVE AN UMBRELLA FOR YOUR JAGUAR.
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DAMNIT SHANE MY LEAD II IS GONNA GET SOME OF THAT
Oh wait I'm not using it right now because its b-string is broken and I'm too lazy to change it, so I'm just using my friend's Squier Tele right now.
UHH GO AHEAD WHATEVER IT'S ONLY A SQUIER
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MAN WHAT DO YOU THINK I'M PUTTING IN FRONT OF THAT THING?
(hint: Squier Tele Custom)
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Ahhh, and now someone on OSG has a Super Feedbacker for $110 shipped. Dammit! I can't afford that right now.
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(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/makuserusukotto/100_3686.jpg)
Melxowtone is gone. FM4 is gone. Added a Holier Grail.
Will get some updated pictures soon.
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Uh...
Whats with the computer mouse?
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Yeah, what's in the mouse?
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Uh...
Whats with the computer mouse?
Maybe i want to surf the net and play guitar at the same time?
It's a psudo-expression pedal for the FM4. It switches between heel down and toe down positions on an expression pedal.
The muff has various tone-stack mods, the behringer phaser is TB'd and the slide switch for color was turned into a stomp, and the RC-2 has the footswitch mods done to it.
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What's in the stripey stockings?
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What's in the stripey stockings?
It's s Mellowtone Melxowtone. It's a fuzz.
Updated board.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/makuserusukotto/101_3710.jpg)
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Also dude, how is the carbon copy analog delay? I'm thinking about getting one so your thoughts would be nice.
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Also dude, how is the carbon copy analog delay? I'm thinking about getting one so your thoughts would be nice.
It's nice, modulation is kind of bland. The oscillation is way to strong also. But the delays are pretty nice.
I'd wait for the new Malekko delay that has mod, or the EHX Memory Boy if i were you though.
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Well folks, I've come to a decision. My next pedal purchase will be an MJM Brit Bender (three-knob version).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/kalnaar_khan/britbender.jpg)
From what I've listened to, it's one raunchy, fuzzy motherfucker. I'm hoping to order one from PGS within the next few weeks.
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Shane I beseech you to point towards the Pacific when you jizz uncontrollably.
HEY PATRICK, I HOPE YOU HAVE AN UMBRELLA FOR YOUR JAGUAR.
I am actually back in Albania already, but thank you for your warning.
Also if I were to live in southeast Alaska without an umbrella I'd be fucking stupid. Rains like 250" a year or some shit.
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I guess you should just let Chris borrow it, then.
I'm hoping the mailman has this bastard for me today. The guy mailed it out Priority early Saturday morning.
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Well folks, I've come to a decision. My next pedal purchase will be an MJM Brit Bender (three-knob version).
From what I've listened to, it's one raunchy, fuzzy motherfucker. I'm hoping to order one from PGS within the next few weeks.
Tonebenders are crazy. They've got this sweet vintage sound.
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Oh god, GAS attack. I might be getting a Devi Ever Hyperion fuzz, instead of the French Toast.
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Man, I just watched a demo of that on YouTube. It sounds nasty as hell. Like, seriously cool, crazy, sputtery fuzz sounds.
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It'll nail the Fu Manchu fuzz sound I love so much, without spending $130 on a Superfuzz.
And THEN some. Devi Ever builds some fucking serious fuzzboxes.
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For sure.
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I guess someone PMed the guy before I did. He's trying to sell me on a USA Big Muff for $10 less than retail, shipped. It's not a bad deal, I'm looking at taking it.
edito: Put a deposit on the Big Muff. Fuzzbox problem: solved
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Oh god, that Distortion + is GOOD.
(Do not worry guys, I pointed my ejaculation towards central Canada)
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Great, now Michael and Tania are gonna get the brunt of your jizz cannon.
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I was aiming for like..Manitoba. So I wouldn't hit them or Johnny.
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Watch out for Andy in Nova Scotia as well.
Then again I guess living in Nova Scotia is like getting jizzed on every day anyway.
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That's to the northeast of me. I went northwest, Gene.
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ITT: QC guitarslingers don't know which way is up.
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ITT: QC guitarslingers can't get it up.
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I never use pedals other than a tuner- but I'm thinking of scrapping all that on the basis of this one promo vid- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WcsV7hQ1V4
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haha, I think I have to have the Valnøtt on guitar, bass, vocal, and drum machine. Because I mean, if I went to the - and the bass didn't...welll. psh!
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lol just got a DS-1 for $5 off a kid at school.
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Lawl.
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I can just flip it if I don't dig it. The guy I bought it from was debating sending it to Keeley to get it modded. Anyone have experience with his stuff?
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I haven't personally, but I've heard nothing but great things about his stuff. Swap the clipping diodes and the chip and turn it into a RAT, man.
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I was aiming for like..Manitoba. So I wouldn't hit them or Johnny.
Dammit! My window is covered in something that looks like - OH FUCK YOU.
Anyway, to make this post relevant, I have a Zoom G1X that does whatever I tell it to do. Plus I had a giftcard so it only cost me fifteen bucks.
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My board. Look at that poor abused tremelo:
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk85/adamantiumbrains/music/gear/DSC00755.jpg)
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You got some fine pedals on there, my friend.
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You will now go fuck yourself twice for posession of two Devi Ever pedals (one of which is an Effector 13 model not being produced anymore).
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And a third for having a Swollen Pickle!
You jerk.
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Wouldn't that hurt if uh..
.. never mind I am an awful human being.
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Look at that poor abused tremelo
I love how it just says "trem" and has no other markings at all.
Also, it has Jag knobs.
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You will now go fuck yourself twice for posession of two Devi Ever pedals (one of which is an Effector 13 model not being produced anymore).
I have more, just not on the board.
Guys my board is a tangled mess. Suggestions?? I also need to pop a fuzz off it and get something different on there...
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I haven't personally, but I've heard nothing but great things about his stuff. Swap the clipping diodes and the chip and turn it into a RAT, man.
You know what? I actually like it stock. It kinda sounds like my Guv'Nor without the fucking 4 band EQ that sucks any hope you ever had of treble. I can get the punk tones I want out of it, and for that reason alone, I'm keeping it.
edit: Fuck you, give me that Shoegazer.
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They've definitely got a unique tone, but it's just too harsh for me.
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They just reissued the Swollen Pickle and I snatched it up.
/
:-D
Seriously though, I'm not a huge fan of the Shoegazer and might just go back to using the RAT. Wanna trade?
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All I have that I would trade right now is a Guv'Nor 2. =/ Maybe my DS-1.
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Today, I plugged in my DD-20 for the first time in months. Previously, my pedal lineup had just been amp FX send ->Tonebone -> Dano Tuna Melt (tremolo) -> FX return, and both of those pedals are true bypass. That DD-20 is digi-bypass.
I noticed the FUCK out of that tonal difference.
The good news: I have a buddy up in Alaska who wants a DD-20, so I'll probably sell it to him cheaper than they run nowadays, and I'll use the money to buy a true-bypass delay unit, preferably analog.
Any suggestions? Note: I want something so that I can twist the delay time knob and the fucker will start chirping at me. That is my favorite use of a delay pedal.
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The BYOC delay does that. Just build it yourself.
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They even have a link to a dude who pre-builds the fuckers for $50 extra.
Even if I sell the DD-20 at a loss, I will be able to finance most of that thing. You've made me a very happy little man.
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Hey thats the delay pedal i want! Does the dude who makes them for a bit more draw on them too? Cause that would be kind of lame.
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You could also look into the MXR Carbon Copy delay.
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I dunno about the carbon copy. It seems to oscillate really really fast. I need to spend some more time with that puppy.
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Woah woah who's trading a Shoegazer for a RAT?
HI PLEASURE TO MEET YOU.
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The bypass signal getting robbed of its tone could have something to do with what A/C connector you use on it. I hear Boss makes the power supply fucked up because they want you to buy their power adapters and only their power adapters, so if you use a OneSpot, that could be muddling it.
I know that probably isn't the case, since Boss makes some pretty shitty pedals and this could be no exception, but it could have something to do with it. I have a DD-7 and I love it, so I'd hate to see you give up a good pedal just because of a simple hardware issue.
edit: Wait, fuck it, get the clone, for the love of Jesus, get the clone.
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Hey thats the delay pedal i want! Does the dude who makes them for a bit more draw on them too? Cause that would be kind of lame.
He might, but I'm not sure. But since it is bare metal you could easily scrub it off.
The bypass signal getting robbed of its tone could have something to do with what A/C connector you use on it. I hear Boss makes the power supply fucked up because they want you to buy their power adapters and only their power adapters, so if you use a OneSpot, that could be muddling it.
My DD-20 came with a Boss power supply included, so it can't be that. I never really thought it mattered until I plugged that fucker in yesterday after months of solid hardwire-only equipment, and then I was just like "...oh god, that is definitely missing something." I'm a convert now.
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Woah woah who's trading a Shoegazer for a RAT?
HI PLEASURE TO MEET YOU.
I have a RAT already, I just meant swapping it on the board. HATE TO DISAPPOINT BUT STOP EYEING MY GEAR LIKE THAT
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Hey guys, I found a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVeWlJNUlTQ) for the BYOC Analog Delay!
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HUBUHBUBBBUUBBUBUBUUBUBUBUUUBUHBUBHGUHBUGHBOWUIJFkeoiemth
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Yeah that's the one. Totally great.
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Today, I plugged in my DD-20 for the first time in months. Previously, my pedal lineup had just been amp FX send ->Tonebone -> Dano Tuna Melt (tremolo) -> FX return, and both of those pedals are true bypass. That DD-20 is digi-bypass.
I noticed the FUCK out of that tonal difference.
The good news: I have a buddy up in Alaska who wants a DD-20, so I'll probably sell it to him cheaper than they run nowadays, and I'll use the money to buy a true-bypass delay unit, preferably analog.
Any suggestions? Note: I want something so that I can twist the delay time knob and the fucker will start chirping at me. That is my favorite use of a delay pedal.
why twist the knobs?
sell a kidney for the moog unit; it's voltage controllable!
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Has anyone here tried building their own effects pedals?
I'm thinking of building something simple like http://www.montagar.com/~PATJ/dodoverd.gif
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I built myself a Tonebender clone, and Carrotosaurus has apparently built a few himself.
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The best starting ground is BYOC (http://www.buildyourownclone.com/). It's cheap and easy, and doesn't require working with schematics only.
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hnnnnggggghhhhhohsweetjesus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gA6vy0gUhk&feature=related)
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2:08 = HNNNNNNGHNA:DFH:LJ:ENSN:KE:AJ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU8anRAMwpk&feature=related)
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Man buy me one of those prebuilt BYOC analog delays and I will trade it for my DD-20.
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Why didn't I see that BYOC does a MXR Distortion + clone before I bought vintage? I should get a kit just to have as a backup.
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Hey guys, I found a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVeWlJNUlTQ) for the BYOC Analog Delay!
Nitefly is a killer guitarist, a good dude too.
He makes killer pedals too.
http://www.myspace.com/montgomeryappliances Heres his company/site/thing.
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Speaking of bands and making pedals, the lead guitarist from Fu Manchu makes his own fuzz and overdrive pedals now. They're a bit on the boutiquey hyper-fuzzy expensive side, but I'd love to get one someday.
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Actually Bob doesn't make the pedals, their bass player Brad Davis makes them, though Bob uses them in his rig.
Creepy Fingers pedals link on myspace: http://www.myspace.com/creepyfingerseffects and just because Bob's a pretty cool guy I'll plug his site for him too: http://www.playthisriff.com
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Oh man. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_2EmtUzRu8) For fans of The Allman Brothers, Ratatat, Queen, or Avenged Sevenfold, I suppose.
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(http://photos-f.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v2069/15/9/57712993948/n57712993948_2010797_593.jpg)
I'll just leave this here.
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Well folks, today I learned the risk of ordering a pedal I've never played before online.
My MJM Brit Bender showed up in the mail today, and even though I was initially impressed, after playing it for an hour or two and comparing it A-B style with my Big Muff, I slowly began to realize its shortcomings. It's not necessarily a bad pedal, it's just really not the sound I was hoping for. Goes to show that youtube video demos can't always be trusted. Since Pro Guitar Shop has such a good return policy, I figure I'll just exchange it for something more my style; probably something with more of a Muff tone, since I realized today how much I truly like that sound.
I'm thinking of the MJM Foxey Fuzz (http://www.proguitarshop.com/product.php?ProductID=1595&CategoryID= (http://www.proguitarshop.com/product.php?ProductID=1595&CategoryID=)) at this point since it seems like it's more my style, but I still have to wait for the return to get processed. If there's one good thing to come out of this situation, it's that I realized how much I take my Big Muff Pi for granted. It's a much better pedal than I usually think of it as.
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DS-1 Mod instructions
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/04/modding_the_ds-1_distortion_for_ext.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890
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I'm a bassist who likes a ton of pedals.
I've been using a ProCo Vintage Rat to try and get the Mclusky/DFA 1979 kind of sound, since I am in a band without a guitar. Distortion almost all the way up, basically no filter and a fairly trebly sound from my amp. It's a 90s Rockit Amp that was once used by Cat Stevens' bassist. Rockit is a little company here in NZ, it has a fuse and it has a great sound, almost like Kim Deal's old Peavy.
I have a Crowther Hotcake as well (I didn't want the bass one, as I wanted the high tones emphasised more anyway), but I haven't yet used it much with the bass. I put my Casiotone through it and it makes it sound like it could end the world, which is pretty amazing. I am surprised more of you aren't using the Hotcake for that crazy dist/overdriven sound. Oasis even use it on their drums (even if you hate Oasis, I think this emphasises what a rad pedal it is). I replaced my DS-1 and OD-1 on guitar with the Hotcake and it makes me very happy. I am sure it is technically one or the other, but I find it is a great replacement with a slightly more unique sound than most.
I got the Crowther Prunes & Custard too, which I used a lot in my old band, I just couldn't put my finger on what exactly it did. It's a two channel pedal that creates some weird harmonic tones, which I could use for almost acoustic bass sounding FX, or something that sounded totally ridiculous and distorted, like ridiculous 70s bass. I am trying to find out what the Pavement bassist uses his for, might just be a subtle tone adjustment. If any of you have used this pedal, I'd be keen to hear what you do with it.
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I'm thinking about investing in a compressor. Anyone have any experience with the EHX black finger?
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I'd rather have an MXR Dyna Comp or an EHX Soul Preacher. Much of the same effect, but without the bulky tubes and half the price. The Barber Tone Press looks really nice, too. I have heard nothing but praise for Barber pedals.
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I looked into the Soul Preacher and I've heard good things, but I didn't know if all the bells and whistles on the Black Finger were worth the money. I play through a Deluxe Reverb and using tube compression with that has the potential to sound glorious.
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(http://i43.tinypic.com/doosj4.jpg)
Latest board.
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So what's that Shoegazer of yours up to? *waves a $20 bill and some spare distortion pedals*
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I think you're confusing him for me.
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Somebody. I'm more into the Cherry Pop right now, anyway.
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I looked into the Soul Preacher and I've heard good things, but I didn't know if all the bells and whistles on the Black Finger were worth the money. I play through a Deluxe Reverb and using tube compression with that has the potential to sound glorious.
Well, I was watching/listening to a couple demos of it, and it's just an optical compressor fed through a tube gain stage, I think.
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Truth: I do not actually know what a compressor sounds like because I have never used one.
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I don't use them either. The only interest I had in them is the sustain. I'd love to squeeze some extra sustain out of my Strat.
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So I went home and plugged that Hammer Slammer 4 string into my X3Live pedal, set it to a patch using the Seizmik Synth sound and tuned it DADG. I started playing it with the bottle neck slide and intermittently wah-wahing. Crikey, i felt like I was on drugs. In a good way. I punched up a stock rhythm on the MC808 started blasting some really fake sounding Prodigy type cheeze. But it was a lot of fun. I was using the XLRs out of the x3 into my PA. So it was pushing about 350w into each cabinet. heh.
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Well I posed this in the guitar thread but I'll ask here too. I recently played around with a guitar on a Boss RC-20XL Looping pedal. I like making drone-y/ambient music a lot. I don't have a guitar but I'm looking into fixing that. Anyway, I liked the Boss pedal. Is it a smart buy, though? What are one or two good, not very expensive pedals for effects and such if my aim is to make drone-y sounding things?
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Delay pedals like that Boss DD-20 that Patrick hates are good, but I must emphasize the word "like" here, because he doesn't like it that much and he has the damn thing. I've got a DD-7, but I'm looking into trying out an MXR Carbon Copy.
I highly reccommend buying both the DD-7 and the Carbon Copy because of a few reasons. One, the analog delay on the CC has a different feel to the DD-7, and a lot of people prefer it because of that, but I don't think you'll care too much. The DD-7 has a couple different delay types like Reverse and Modulate (as well as an Analog channel, go figure), and can be delayed for about 14 seconds. It's got two inputs, two outputs, and an optional footpedal interface so you can fuck around with the delay speeds on the go, as demonstrated in one of the videos above.
Also, the DD-7 has a Loop mode, which is basically the pedal you'd tried out inside of a delay pedal. You can't use any delay if you're in Loop mode, though, so that's why you should get the Carbon Copy too.
Also, somebody is bound to recommend a Big Muff fuzz pedal, which is on Makuseru's board in the picture above.
Speaking of which, good God in heaven. One, you have a Digitech Whammy, so right there, fight you. Two, you also have a POG? What does that combination sound like?
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If not for the fact that it is digital-bypass, I'd love the thing. Unless I've got the power supply plugged in, I'm sucking down 6 AA batteries in 4 hours. And it is a pain in the ass to have to unplug the cable from the input to turn the thing off every time I stop playing for more than 5 minutes.
I mean, as long as you don't mind that, and as long as you can work with that digital bypass sucking the soul out of your tone, I've got one I'm trying to rid myself of. PM me if you are interested. I just wouldn't recommend that specific pedal. You can dick around with it in nearly endless ways, but I just don't think it's worth the hassle.
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So I'm looking for that Hendrix-style late 60's Fuzz sound in a pedal. There's a BOSS Fuzz at my local shop, but they want $120 for it, can anyone recommend one of their favorites that may be (a little) cheaper?
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Dunlop's got two Fuzz Faces that might interest you. One's supposedly a dead-on clone of what Hendrix played.
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Hendrix apparently played a Russian Big Muff Pi, too. I think the ones they're coming out with today are pretty weak, though. You'd be better off going with a USA Big Muff. The Dunlop pedals are a good idea, too, but they're about twenty bucks more expensive than the Boss pedal. That is, however, if you want the Jimi Hendrix fuzzes (the Octavia and the Fuzz Face). 'Cause you can get an MXR Classic 108 Fuzz which is essentially a silicon Fuzz Face in a different box.
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Yeah, the MXR 108 is some pretty awesome fuzz.
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Hendrix apparently played a Russian Big Muff Pi, too. I think the ones they're coming out with today are pretty weak, though. You'd be better off going with a USA Big Muff. The Dunlop pedals are a good idea, too, but they're about twenty bucks more expensive than the Boss pedal. That is, however, if you want the Jimi Hendrix fuzzes (the Octavia and the Fuzz Face). 'Cause you can get an MXR Classic 108 Fuzz which is essentially a silicon Fuzz Face in a different box.
I don't know where you heard that, but Hendrix never played Muff's, especially a Sovtek, seeing as it was made years after his death.
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Guess who just scored a soul preacher for 42 bucks off ebay. Woot!
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I don't know where you heard that, but Hendrix never played Muff's, especially a Sovtek, seeing as it was made years after his death.
He is supposed to have used early models before his death - he was heavily involved in the creation of the big muff.
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I just watched videos on all those pedals you guys recommended. Early Pedals sure were funny lookin'
But the Fuzz Face shown looks familiar, there might be one at the local shop. Hooray, now I have an excuse to go spend a Saturday ogling guitar-related things. (not that I needed one)
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Has anyone used a Devi Ever Shoegazer? I am thinking of buying one. Maybe a loop pedal too?
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More fuzz questions:
I'm getting a little 5 watt tuber this summer, and want to get some serious fuzz to go with it. Something where I can get some nice classic rock tones, but at the same time, get some devastating stoner rock/drone fuzz out of it.
Devi Ever Hyperion, z.vex Fuzz Factory, Fulltone '70? Opinions on any of them?
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Well, I think the Fulltone '70 and surely the Fuzz Factory are Fuzz Face clones with some extra knobs. I don't know about the Hyperion, though. So...
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I know it's not as psychotic as the Cherry Pop or the Shoegazer, but I want some range instead of completely over-the-top.
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I want a vibrato pedal or something to get me that awesome "underwater" type of sound. It just sounds so cool.
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That makes me really really want a Leslie rotary cab. Really fucking bad. I know it is not a pedal but holy bejeezus I want one.
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So guys, quick query incoming.
I am in possession of a Dunlop Arbiter Fuzz Face from the nineties, and a Tycobrahe replica made by a couple friends at pedalshop.
I currently don't use neither, and I am not sure how to. Should I sell them, and perhaps buy a Voodoo Labs Proctavia (which sounds a lot better than my replica)?
Or should I keep the Fuzzface, just because it's a Fuzzface, and I might eventually learn how to use it, and like it? I'm just a light drive kinda guy, I don't like the heavy distorted stuff, nor do I use it in any of my projects. I like to use it with the guitar volume backed down, but I'm not so sure if I like it that much.
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You should sell me the Fuzz Face.
Eh? :-D
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Bastard beat me to it :-(
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I'm selling it dirt cheap too. Oh well.
I might just keep it. INTENSIVE TESTING WILL BE MADE.
I just really freaking want a Proctavia instead of the lousy replica I seem to have got.
Gnurrhl.
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You can get some sweet vintage-type drive tones with the Fuzz Face just by backing off your guitar's volume, I think.
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Guys you don't need all these fancy pedals, all you need to knowi is how to make your guitar go BAH, DUH DUH DUH DAH, DUH DUH DUH DAH, WAK WAK WAK, WAK WAK WAK.
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I want a vibrato pedal or something to get me that awesome "underwater" type of sound. It just sounds so cool.
holy grail dogg. set it to the flerb setting and start feedbacking. it sounds like you are in an ocean.
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I've been thinking about getting a Holy Grail or other such reverb pedal for the huge hall sounds. I don't think it'd be the the fluttery warble I'm lookin' for, though.
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Holy Grails have numerous reverb settings.
Spring, hall, and "flerb" which is a smooth, thick, shoegazey sort of delay reverb thingamabob.
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EHX just redid the Holy Grail, actually. Same electronics, but they switched it to the nano-sized enclosure.
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well you should just get a holy grail anyway. the things are wonderful.
and shit that tiny holy grail would be so much easier to carry around, even though it looks less cool.
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JESUS SHIT PEOPLE!
For the show I played last night I needed a delay pedal. One of my friends had this (http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/DigiTech/PDS-1002/10/1) and let me use it.
I think I'm in love. I must get one.
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http://www.fuzzhugger.com/pedal-ab-synth.html
y helo thar.
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Been having fun with my Boss RC-2. I am still thinking of getting a Devi Ever Shoegazer. Is this a good idea? Has anyone used one? Sorry to repeat myself.
Also I got a new power supply and pedal board, managed to blow up my ProCo Vintage Rat, which they don't make anymore (unless you get the Deucetone version). Getting it re-wired and hope it comes back to life tomorrow.
Current board lay-out (I am a bassist, this is so wrong):
- Horrible Zoom Pedal that I use as a tuner
- Crowther Prunes & Custard
- Crowther Hotcake
- ProCo Vintage Rat (Dead)
- Boss RC-2
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I am a bassist
Devi Ever Shoegazer
(this is so right)
FYP.
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Seriously.
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I hope you like mid-range tones!!!
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Shoe Gazer, yes. You can't say "should I get" and "a Shoe Gazer" in the same sentence if you full-well know about the awesome stored in that pedal. Never thought of it being used on a bass, though. Would probably sound good on a balalaika, it doesn't matter.
For the bass distortion, I recommend this (http://www.pennypedals.com/index.php?page=DS-1-Bass-Mod). It's an extensively modded Boss DS-1 that has a ton of low-end, and it sounds pretty good on a regular guitar, too. Not Boss' usual Happy Meal standards at all.
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Shoe Gazer, yes. You can't say "should I get" and "a Shoe Gazer" in the same sentence if you full-well know about the awesome stored in that pedal. Never thought of it being used on a bass, though. Would probably sound good on a balalaika, it doesn't matter.
For the bass distortion, I recommend this (http://www.pennypedals.com/index.php?page=DS-1-Bass-Mod). It's an extensively modded Boss DS-1 that has a ton of low-end, and it sounds pretty good on a regular guitar, too. Not Boss' usual Happy Meal standards at all.
Rad, everyone says to get Shoe Gazer. I will get Shoe Gazer. I'm going to use it for high octave kindof stuff combined with the loop pedal and get some rad layers of Kevin Shields over the whole song. The modded DS-1 sounds awesome, it reminds me of kindof a more full bodied version of what I get going with the Vintage Rat, if I turn down the rat in conjunction with high distortion on my prunes & custard it sounds a bit like that.
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So, I was at the guitar shop today messing with a Digitech display pedal board and particularly the Digiverb, the Multi-Voiced Chorus and the Digital Delay. I got some hella cool shoegazer sounds goin' on. I've made a note to buy a pedal of each kind now.
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I haven't had a chance to try one out yet, but I've heard hell of good things about the Digiverb. I'm thinking about picking up some sort of reverb (probably that or a Holy Grail) if I end up getting one of those single-channel 5 watt tube amps.
Of course, Epiphone's got a new Valve Junior head on the way that HAS reverb..
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psh who cares if it has reverb get a holy grail anyway.
i mean you play done it won't hurt.
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OK GUYS I NEED ANSWERS
For the 24 hour album I plan on using all my pedal that I haven't used for a long while. What I need now is advice on how to align them in the effect chain, of whatever you call it.
I have:
- an Electro Harmonix double Muff
- an Electro Harmonix Holy Grail reverb pedal (that one is usually in the effect loop of my amp)
- a Wah-wah pedal
- a phaser
- a digital delay pedal
So how should I place them for maximum stoner rock action?
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Step 1: Forgo all pedals
Step 2:
(http://www.lynoure.com/gallery/IMG_1448_black_cloak_hood_deep_mid.JPG)
Step 4: Ignore the fact that there is a pretty blonde girl inside the cloak (pretty blonde girls can rock the fuck out too)
Step 5:
(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q70/lizmar666/volume11.jpg)
Step 6: Rokk
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What is step 3?
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Step three could take days to search for.
And mine goes up to 12.
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OK GUYS I NEED ANSWERS
For the 24 hour album I plan on using all my pedal that I haven't used for a long while. What I need now is advice on how to align them in the effect chain, of whatever you call it.
http://www.masht.com/guitars/order_of_effects.htm
I usually put my distortions first, then modulation effects, and then my wah.
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For me, it's Wah > Compressor > Distortion > Phaser > Reverb > Trem > Delay/Looping
I really need to get a volume pedal though.
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Well, thanks for your information! If all goes well you can all hear the results in two weeks.
[Steps]
Usually I follow those steps, except that I use my Double Muff, because my amp only has one channel. For thios thing I want to use at least Wah, though. Probably more.
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The thing about wahs is it really depends on what kind of wah sound you're going for. Before your distortions will make a more dramatic effect and vice a versa. I think. I can't remember exactly.
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Yeah I think I have never even used it with this amp, and with my old amp, I never used a distortion pedal. I guess I'll have to try that out.
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I'm having a bastard of a time trying to figure out what the effect used on the second guitar on "Here Comes the Sun" by The Beatles is. I really love the watery sound. I've narrowed it down to some kind of chorus or a vibrato pedal.
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I think it was played through a leslie speaker, so I guess you could use a chorus pedal, although it's a bit different.
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Distorted bass guitars = the sex.
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I still need good bass distortion, especially since I'm gonna have to take some of the heavy rhythm parts in my 3 man post rock band. It's rather anoying that most bass distortions are actually just fuzz.
Fuck it Big Mufffffffffffffff
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this is a course of action i should probably take.
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I'm having a bastard of a time trying to figure out what the effect used on the second guitar on "Here Comes the Sun" by The Beatles is. I really love the watery sound. I've narrowed it down to some kind of chorus or a vibrato pedal.
Is it even a guitar? It sounds to me like synth.
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Since I've grown accustomed to the pedals I own and what they can do, now I'm in that faze where I just want to make the pedals sound as far from their intended sound as possible.
The results are usually bad, I'll admit. And not the "whales screeching in an ocean made out of nebulae" kind of bad, but the "whales vomiting up bigger whales" kind of bad.
However, I have found out that a Big Muff run through a mediocre/beginner's amps drive channel sounds pretty cool. The fuzziness seems smoother, but the attack of the pick is really loud and crackly. It's bitchin' for solos, but strumming more than one string usually takes whatever sound you were trying to make and turns it into a crackly stampede of crackles.
Who else has a weird pedal arrangement technique?
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Speaking of fuzzy bass, our bassist has taken to running through the Marshall half-stack lately and it sounds amazing.
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Of course it does. Anything Lemmy does sounds awesome.
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I'm pretty sure Lou Barlow does that too, except he runs his bass into an Ampeg bass stack at the same time, too.
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Of course it does. Anything Lemmy does sounds awesome.
yeah 'cept play
ICE BURNNNNNNNNNN
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So, I saw a old Dunlop crybaby Wah pedal at my local pawnshop for $40. I am seriously considering picking that thing up.
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Do it.
Used pawnshop Crybabies just sound better, somehow. I love the shit out of my Crybaby 535Q but it just doesn't sound as good as the beat to shit original that I played at Main Drag once.
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Yeah when I bought my crybaby it was a beat up piece of crap, but I still love it. It's still a beat up piece of crap and I still love it.
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haven't been on the pedal market for some years now and i was wondering whats a good cheap fuzz pedal (used is no problemo) to get some nice light overdrives and some harsh rhythm with a delay a la my bloody valentine and radio dept?
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Erm...A Fuzz Face?
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haven't been on the pedal market for some years now and i was wondering whats a good cheap fuzz pedal (used is no problemo) to get some nice light overdrives and some harsh rhythm with a delay a la my bloody valentine and radio dept?
Erm...A Fuzz Face?
One of your best bets.
Also, the Little Big Muff is not half bad at all.
I have to say, though, you might not be able to do anything like My Bloody Valentine justice with those three pedals alone. Even with a good delay pedal, the signature My Bloody Valentine roar is a bit beyond your capabilities, I imagine. Look into chorus and octave pedals, compression pedals, and some powerful reverb pedals. Then mix up their order on your board and enjoy the geysers of noise created afterwards.
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This is Kevin Shield's pedalboard:
(http://images.drownedinsound.com/images/47616.jpeg)
!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is Kevin Shield's pedalboard:
(gloriousness)
!!!!!!!!!!!!
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y14/grottoboy/homer_simpson_drool.jpg)
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Guys!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhWT5faY1XU&feature=player_embedded
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i think if i was onstage and i looked down and saw sheild's board id probably faint. i wouldnt even know where to start. i love that he labels some by song.
i saw them. SO LOUD.
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I want this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs3pyg019mw&NR=1
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That's not really a guitar pedal, though, as fucking cool as it is...
And I love how Kevin Shields needs two separate footswitches. Not to mention four equalizers and three Voodoo Vibes.
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Also, that's only one part of the rack. There are even more underneath.
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heres another shots (mbv/kevin shields)
(http://www.ideologic.org/news/images/1857-2.jpg)
they have the most colorful equipment....
(http://guitarplayer.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/kevin-shields-pedals.jpg)
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That's not really a guitar pedal, though, as fucking cool as it is...
It has a guitar input!
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Oh my God, purple with tort Jaguar <3333
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some powerful reverb pedals.
I've been hearing a lot of MBV sound comparisons about the "reverse" mode on that Digitech Hardwire reverb. I still really have no clue what it does, and I don't really like MBV at all, but it sounds like it could be cool. Plus, I'll need a reverb pedal if I ever take a trip to Tiny Amp Town.
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Just throwing this out there, the Boss Super Overdrive is a completely rad pedal if you put it in front of a tube amp. I've been playing my Dano U-1 through it into a Fender Champ 600, and it is a great boost/tone shaper pedal. Through the Low Gain input on the Champ 600, with the drive on the Super Overdrive turned to about 9 o'clock and the Tone knob at 12 o'clock, it is pure bluesy sex. Plug it into the High Gain, and crank the drive all the way up, then set the tone anywhere between 1 and 3 o'clock, and you get serious crunch and roar.
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Would you recommend that amp? It keeps popping up as something I might buy, someday.
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If you need something small, it's great. However, it's (rather obviously) not very versatile, and seems to lose warmth and body if it's not turned up enough (although this may be the low output of the lipstick tube on my Dano, I'm not sure; I've heard my friend's Jazzmaster w/ Lollar P-90's through it and it didn't seem to have that problem). But, like I said, put an overdrive or distortion pedal in front of it and it breaks up really nicely, great for blues and rock. It's probably the best 'practice amp' I've played, and it records very well.
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Guys!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhWT5faY1XU&feature=player_embedded
Seriously, I don't even know how to sing properly, but I'm so going to buy one of those.
I just love harmonies, but I'd probably use that for the vocoder only. I rather have real people doing harmonies y'know.
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Danelectro Bacon & Eggs is on the way.
Here's why. Wife bought an acoustic bass. We have to play somewhere and they won't let us plug in even a mic. Our thinking is she can put it in an inside pocket or some kind of hippy handbag and they won't notice it. Otherwise the thing is too quiet to be heard above my acoustic gtr/big mouth. I'm hoping it is not too distorty. She only needs enough volume to hear herself.
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they won't let us plug in even a mic.
hippy handbag and they won't notice it.
...what kind of show are we talking here?
EDIT:
HO HO HOOOLY shit. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plnjVxJ1evY)
It came out really recently (a few days ago), so this is basically the only hands-on review I could find.
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B===D~~~~
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Hey guys, I guess I need a distortion pedal! And I mean a Distortion Pedal. Something really mean and evil. Recommendations?
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...what kind of show are we talking here?
nm, it seems like the whole thing is a bust.
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Hey guys, I guess I need a distortion pedal! And I mean a Distortion Pedal. Something really mean and evil. Recommendations?
PRO CO RAT2 DISTORTION PEDAL. (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pro-Co-RAT2-Distortion-Pedal?sku=151501#new)
I mean, shit, man.
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+1 on the Rat.
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well, the guy who's playing guitar in the band of which the rhythm section recently formed another band in whcih i am playing guitar (and which is the reson i need more distortion) owns that thing. i will try it out, but what i heard on youtube just now, i like!
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Jesus, I haven't been on in a while.
Anyways, my Whammy stopped working on me. I unplugged it's power supply while it was on (dumb move I know) when I was trying to figure out why it didn't work with a pedalboard power supply I bought. Anyways, it worked after that, but the expression pedal (Not sure if that's the right term, but I dunno what else to call it) is fucked. I can rock it all the way forward, but the sound from the pedal won't go up all the way, so it won't go the full 2 octaves or whatever setting it's at. It'll go to some random tone in between. Any idea what's up with it.
Also, rig. I don't run through the Whammy (obviously) or the wah anymore, a Seymour Duncan Pickup Booster's been added, and the pedals aren't on that board anymore.
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6281/1003053o.jpg)
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You know any good mods for that Crybaby besides swapping the inductor?
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You know any good mods for that Crybaby besides swapping the inductor?
Nope, I don't mod. I need to learn how.
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Jesus, I haven't been on in a while.
Anyways, my Whammy stopped working on me. I unplugged it's power supply while it was on (dumb move I know) when I was trying to figure out why it didn't work with a pedalboard power supply I bought. Anyways, it worked after that, but the expression pedal (Not sure if that's the right term, but I dunno what else to call it) is fucked. I can rock it all the way forward, but the sound from the pedal won't go up all the way, so it won't go the full 2 octaves or whatever setting it's at. It'll go to some random tone in between. Any idea what's up with it.
Also, rig. I don't run through the Whammy (obviously) or the wah anymore, a Seymour Duncan Pickup Booster's been added, and the pedals aren't on that board anymore.
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6281/1003053o.jpg)
You just need to calibrate the whammy. There is nothing wrong with it.
Unplug it from the power. Press and hold the footswitch, then plug the power in. Keep holding the footswitch until the status light stops blinking. Then rock the treadle (thats what the expression part is called) back and forth. This sets the range on it.
Do that and you should be ready to go.
Also, I have a VP-1. Great clone, but the bypass was almost as bad as the whammy's bypass. But after I TB'd it it was much better.
RC2 is great too, but having a footswitch thats bigger than the real pedal is is ridiculous.
You should do the footswitch mod to it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU8daIYOTeY .
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needs more gristle.
http://www.smashingguitarsasheville.com/products/gristleizer-stompbox
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You just need to calibrate the whammy. There is nothing wrong with it.
Unplug it from the power. Press and hold the footswitch, then plug the power in. Keep holding the footswitch until the status light stops blinking. Then rock the treadle (thats what the expression part is called) back and forth. This sets the range on it.
Do that and you should be ready to go.
Tried that, and something weird is happening. Everytime I do, rocking the treadle (thanks for giving me the proper name lol i'm a pedal n00b) does what the knob does: lights up the lights for the modes. I'm doing it wrong, aren't I.
Also, I have a VP-1. Great clone, but the bypass was almost as bad as the whammy's bypass. But after I TB'd it it was much better.
It's pretty good, but the bad thing is I turned down an old Boss CE-2 for it. I was 13 and was like "COOL THIS THING MAKES WHOOSHY NOISES HOW MUCH." I've seen a CE-2 at another place though (one that sells Z.Vex too w00t), could replace my CE-5...
RC2 is great too, but having a footswitch thats bigger than the real pedal is is ridiculous.
You should do the footswitch mod to it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU8daIYOTeY .
I agree with that, mod looks neat.
Looked up a video of the Gristleizer, holy shit (even if I'm not a big TG fan), that's awesome. Also, I decided to put my wah before the Muff today, and I'm keeping it on my board for sure now. I got some neat sounds out of it. Also, sorry for tl;dr post.
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Can anyone recommend a good analog delay pedal? I've got my eye on a Tech 21 Boost D.L.A. on ebay and a couple of Carbon Copies, but I was wondering if anyone knew of something better in the same price range.
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I've heard good things about the BBE Two Timer
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I think BBE are like, the sleeper effects company. They have some of the best effects out there, but you don't see them all that much. Except, maybe, for their Sonic Maximizer.
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I think BBE are like, the sleeper effects company. They have some of the best effects out there, but you don't see them all that much. Except, maybe, for their Sonic Maximizer.
Weird, I've seen a whole bunch at some places in town :?
If I wasn't saving up for an 8-track, I'd so get a Fuzz Factory. I tried one out, and shit, it might be better than my Muff (of course, the Muff is a bit more normal...).
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Huh. I've never seen them anywhere besides the internet.
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Huh. I've never seen them anywhere besides the internet.
I just scored a two timer for 90 bucks because it had been used as a display model in some guitar shop. Ebay is a wonderful thing.
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Huh. I've never seen them anywhere besides the internet.
I just scored a two timer for 90 bucks because it had been used as a display model in some guitar shop. Ebay is a wonderful thing.
Any good? Anyways, imapiratearg, which area are you in? That could have something to do with the lack of BBEs.
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Vermont. Location could certainly be a factor.
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Vermont. Location could certainly be a factor.
Yeah, that's what I'm guessing. I'm in Alberta, and we have all sorts of effects here. One place even has Z.Vex :laugh:
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Huh. I've never seen them anywhere besides the internet.
I just scored a two timer for 90 bucks because it had been used as a display model in some guitar shop. Ebay is a wonderful thing.
Any good?
I'll let you know in 6 to 10 business days
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You just need to calibrate the whammy. There is nothing wrong with it.
Unplug it from the power. Press and hold the footswitch, then plug the power in. Keep holding the footswitch until the status light stops blinking. Then rock the treadle (thats what the expression part is called) back and forth. This sets the range on it.
Do that and you should be ready to go.
Tried that, and something weird is happening. Everytime I do, rocking the treadle (thanks for giving me the proper name lol i'm a pedal n00b) does what the knob does: lights up the lights for the modes. I'm doing it wrong, aren't I.
No, that's exactly what should be happening.
As it goes though the modes you're setting the sweep of the treadle.
1. step on the switch while plugging the unit in
2. release switch when led blinks
3. press pedal all the way forward then all the way back
4. press switch again to exit calibration
If you do that and it is still acting weird, PM me.
Also, I have a VP-1. Great clone, but the bypass was almost as bad as the whammy's bypass. But after I TB'd it it was much better.
It's pretty good, but the bad thing is I turned down an old Boss CE-2 for it. I was 13 and was like "COOL THIS THING MAKES WHOOSHY NOISES HOW MUCH." I've seen a CE-2 at another place though (one that sells Z.Vex too w00t), could replace my CE-5...
RC2 is great too, but having a footswitch thats bigger than the real pedal is is ridiculous.
You should do the footswitch mod to it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU8daIYOTeY .
I agree with that, mod looks neat.
Looked up a video of the Gristleizer, holy shit (even if I'm not a big TG fan), that's awesome. Also, I decided to put my wah before the Muff today, and I'm keeping it on my board for sure now. I got some neat sounds out of it. Also, sorry for tl;dr post.
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I have a CE-2. It's an amazing pedal. Also, it seems to be worth loads now!
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I have a CE-2. It's an amazing pedal. Also, it seems to be worth loads now!
The one near me is about $150. Not bad for vintage.
Also, my Whammy is fixed now. Thanks Makuseru.
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Can anyone recommend a good analog delay pedal? I've got my eye on a Tech 21 Boost D.L.A. on ebay and a couple of Carbon Copies, but I was wondering if anyone knew of something better in the same price range.
if you can find a bank to give you a mortgage, the Moog Analog Delay is fucking incredible, 1 second of delay time, has an fx loop, and can be voltage controlled
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Can anyone recommend a good analog delay pedal? I've got my eye on a Tech 21 Boost D.L.A. on ebay and a couple of Carbon Copies, but I was wondering if anyone knew of something better in the same price range.
if you can find a bank to give you a mortgage, the Moog Analog Delay is fucking incredible, 1 second of delay time, has an fx loop, and can be voltage controlled
I've heard a demo of it, and it does sound abso-fucking-lutely incredible. I wouldn't spend $800 or so on a pedal though.
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If you don't mind waiting, the EHX Memory Boy looks promising.
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Already scored a Two-timer for cheap. I looked at the Moog just for shits and giggles, but If I was going to drop $600-$800 dollars on new gear I'd just buy a new guitar. The Memory Boy, however, looks like something I would buy in the future. I'm a huge EHX fanboy, but the Memory Man's size was a big turnoff for me considering I already have a Headrush, a big muff, and a whammy on my board.
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Guys I saw an Ibanez analog delay pedal at a pawn shop for like sixty bucks. It was in its original box. Would this be a good purchase? I didn't even know they made pedals. I don't think it has a true bypass.
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I Googled up a noise-gate mod for the Muff. Does anybody know if this would work?
Noise gate mod: This mod will quieten the Muff while not playing, thus a noise gate. To do this, add a 100k trimpot (wired as a variable resistor) parallel to the 100k to ground of the second gain stage (R14). The trimpot can be adjusted to taste to get the max noise gate effect.
Also, if you look at this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjPfewXwJXs), you can catch a glimpse of the Memory Boy. Can't wait to see a pic of the finished thing.
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Guys I saw an Ibanez analog delay pedal at a pawn shop for like sixty bucks. It was in its original box. Would this be a good purchase? I didn't even know they made pedals. I don't think it has a true bypass.
I'd say that'd be a good purchase, especially knowing the price of current AD-9 reissues.
EDIT of an EDIT: sorry for that DP. Also, I just got a GE-7, ran it after my Muff, put the EQ for full bass, no mids, full treble, and DAMN. Sounds almost like a Cherry Pop!
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NEW EHX PEDALS :-D
(http://www.ehx.com/assets/jpg640h/memory-boy.jpg)
(http://www.ehx.com/assets/jpg640h/memory-toy.jpg)
(http://www.ehx.com/assets/jpg640h/v256.jpg)
(I know this isn't a pedal per se, but hey, the Voice Box was brought up here, so why not...)
(http://www.ehx.com/assets/jpg640h/cathedral.jpg)
sorry for the triple post, but this just HAD to be posted
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oh dear god the cathederal.
how does that thing sound? also those delay pedals look tite.
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oh dear god the cathederal.
how does that thing sound? also those delay pedals look tite.
No clue yet. They just released those pics as a sneak peek, no other info. But the Cathedral looks like it'll be great, I agree.
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Can anyone recommend a good analog delay pedal? I've got my eye on a Tech 21 Boost D.L.A. on ebay and a couple of Carbon Copies, but I was wondering if anyone knew of something better in the same price range.
if you can find a bank to give you a mortgage, the Moog Analog Delay is fucking incredible, 1 second of delay time, has an fx loop, and can be voltage controlled
I've heard a demo of it, and it does sound abso-fucking-lutely incredible. I wouldn't spend $800 or so on a pedal though.
Yeah, you'd be paying a hundred too much. It's not just a pedal, though; all the moogerfoogers are voltage controllable so they're actually miniature synth modules in floor friendly form. If you wouldn't be sending any CV to it, it's going to be a lot more than you need.
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Boss DD-7. I hate most Boss pedals, but this is one I don't expect to ever replace. The thing can go from almost subliminally light reverb/snapback to around seven seconds of delay, it has two inputs and two outputs for any stereo jumping jacks you want it to do, it has a loop channel, and it even has an analog channel, almost just to mock the Carbon Copy. It can also oscillate if you turn the "F.BACK" knob past three-o-clock. I've yet to see a YouTube video-demo that demonstrates every aspect of it.
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UPS is holding my Two Timer hostage because the seller requires a signature and no one is home at my house from 8 AM to 4:00.
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^^^
That sucks.
The Memory Boy looks amazing. Expression pedal controllable rate = (http://planetsmilies.net/obscene-smiley-992.gif)
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Vermont. Location could certainly be a factor.
Yeah, that's what I'm guessing. I'm in Alberta, and we have all sorts of effects here. One place even has Z.Vex :laugh:
My old job (http://www.ludlowguitars.com/) stocked Z.Vex's full catalog (as well as Eastwood Guitars' full catalog) and I don't remember but I think they have some BBE's as well.
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Vermont. Location could certainly be a factor.
Yeah, that's what I'm guessing. I'm in Alberta, and we have all sorts of effects here. One place even has Z.Vex :laugh:
My old job (http://www.ludlowguitars.com/) stocked Z.Vex's full catalog (as well as Eastwood Guitars' full catalog) and I don't remember but I think they have some BBE's as well.
Didn't you mention you had every Death By Audio pedal at another place? That I am jealous of. Also, the place in my area has some Eastwoods. They're nice, I'd so get one.
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Yep, the manager of that store used to intern for Oliver Ackermann building the original DBA pedals and they're still good friends. So we stocked all their shit.
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I was on that site, and I saw Devi Ever there too. That place just might be the coolest music store ever.
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They didn't have those when I worked there! They kept talking about how they will soon. Bastards.
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Well, at least it was on the list of pedal brands, I didn't click it or anything...
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Bladdowwww! (http://www.musictoyz.com/blog/new-products/electro-harmonix-22-caliber-power-amp-and-more/)
Electro Harmonix 22 Caliber Amp and POG2 ! - Electro Harmonix has sent us the latest batch of their new gear. Many classics such as the Worm and Frequency Analyzer have been modified to fit smaller enclosures. And new products such as the Screaming Bird and the POG2 have hit the shelves. The 22 Caliber is a versatile 22-watt guitar head that fits in the palm of your hand. Just plug it into any 4-, 8- or 16-ohm speaker, and you’ll get a big, sweet musical sound. Crank the 22 Caliber’s volume, and it’ll go into overdrive — like a vintage amp with a single volume control. Flip on the Bright switch to add some bite and definition. It’s not just a guitar head; it’s a shrunken head, with all good voodoo.
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The 22 Caliber seems neat. They should make a stereo one.
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I just got my two-timer in the mail and it's fantastic. The repeats are a lot muddier than I expected them to be, but I kind of like it that way. You can't squeeze a whole lot of delay time out of it but I've got a digital pedal for that.
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^^^
Niiiiice.
Also, want. (http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=1021&ParentId=255)
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Why are people still developing new reverb pedals? Are we missing something? How many hundred-dollar reverb pedals is it going to take before we finally perfect that art?
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Why are people still developing new reverb pedals? Are we missing something? How many hundred-dollar reverb pedals is it going to take before we finally perfect that art?
i actually think you are missing something if that's what you feel...
i'm so stoked on all of the new ehx releases. even the recent mole and screaming bird were great releases, but i really am so stoked on the cathedral and the new delays. i rock a holy stain on my pedal board through a fender deville and both the room and hall reverbs on it are so lush and rich, got i'm almost cumming in my pants thinking about what the cathedral can offer. haha.
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Niiiiice.
Also, want. (http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=1021&ParentId=255)
If COSM reverb is as bad as COSM distortion that thing isn't worth the money.
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In my experience, the only thing COSM does well is suck. It sucks like that's what it was programmed to do. A machine built only to suck.
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If I'm gonna get a reverb, what would I be better off getting? Hardwire?
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Get a holy grail or eBay an old RV3.
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If you want that spring reverb sound, I hear good things about the Malekko spring chicken. Or you could get an amp with real spring reverb like my Fender '64 reissue. :-D
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Yeah, seriously, I just sold my old Traynor amp which had an absolutely gorgeous old spring reverb tank in it. It was so lush. I miss it.
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If you want that spring reverb sound, I hear good things about the Malekko spring chicken. Or you could get an amp with real spring reverb like my Fender '64 reissue. :-D
Yeah, Pro Guitar Shop did a review of that thing, it sounds great.
My Peavey Valve King has a spring reverb, but it's pretty weak. Even when you crank the knob, it's very subtle. You know that over-the-top reverb you hear on songs like, say, "Hallucinations" by The Raveonettes? That's the kind of reverb I want.
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You could also invest in a spring reverb tank. I mean, if thats what you really want it's probably worth it.
If yr looking for more diversity than just spring (hall, plate, whatever) I still recommend an RV3 or just a Holy Grail.
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You could also invest in a spring reverb tank. I mean, if thats what you really want it's probably worth it.
If yr looking for more diversity than just spring (hall, plate, whatever) I still recommend an RV3 or just a Holy Grail.
I would invest in a tank, but I think it would take up too much room. Not to mention, I run a two-amp system, so it would be kinda have to be in my pedalboard (or at least the chain), which would be kinda awkward.
A Holy Grail would probably be best for me.
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You couldn't rest it on one of your amps and run it out of its effects loop? Or do you have your pedal chain run through the FX loop? I just run mine straight into the instrument input, and I guess I assume everyone does that.
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You couldn't rest it on one of your amps and run it out of its effects loop? Or do you have your pedal chain run through the FX loop? I just run mine straight into the instrument input, and I guess I assume everyone does that.
Yeah I could do rest it on the amp, but I'd much rather get a pedal.
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imapirate.. you said you're from vermont? any chance you know where the hotspots are to play on tour over there? indie rockish bands, but we dig the hippy scene so it's all cool. any help, i can gladly return the favor.
as for a reverb pedals, if you're going to go the pedal route.. i swear by the ehx holy stain. i just love what you can make the pedal do in general... and you can't go wrong with room and hall reverb, pitch shifter, tremelo, overdrive, and fuzz sounds all in an ehx box for 99 bucks. go buy it. haha. but seriously, i feel like that pedal itself is a little quieter than the holy grail as i own both. i was never able to successfully get the holy grail to sound good, whether it was in the loop or not. this wasn't because the reverb sound was bad, but because of the excess noise that the pedal made. i don't know.. some ehx pedals are like that.
has anyone played that danelectro spring reverb pedal with the pad on it to kick and make vintage spring reverb sounds? it's in the oversized enclosure like their "reel echo" pedal... which i own and really dig. in fact, i dig it so much, i still squeeze it on my pedalboard, even though theres already plenty of other delays on there. haha. anyway, if you can find one of those it might be worth checking out.
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Bladdowwww! (http://www.musictoyz.com/blog/new-products/electro-harmonix-22-caliber-power-amp-and-more/)
Electro Harmonix 22 Caliber Amp and POG2 ! - Electro Harmonix has sent us the latest batch of their new gear. Many classics such as the Worm and Frequency Analyzer have been modified to fit smaller enclosures. And new products such as the Screaming Bird and the POG2 have hit the shelves. The 22 Caliber is a versatile 22-watt guitar head that fits in the palm of your hand. Just plug it into any 4-, 8- or 16-ohm speaker, and you’ll get a big, sweet musical sound. Crank the 22 Caliber’s volume, and it’ll go into overdrive — like a vintage amp with a single volume control. Flip on the Bright switch to add some bite and definition. It’s not just a guitar head; it’s a shrunken head, with all good voodoo.
....I want this 22 Caliber. Now.
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yeah that blog has a lot of cool gear.
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has anyone played that danelectro spring reverb pedal with the pad on it to kick and make vintage spring reverb sounds? it's in the oversized enclosure like their "reel echo" pedal... which i own and really dig. in fact, i dig it so much, i still squeeze it on my pedalboard, even though theres already plenty of other delays on there. haha. anyway, if you can find one of those it might be worth checking out.
Haven't tried it, but yeah, the Spring King looks neat.
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imapirate.. you said you're from vermont? any chance you know where the hotspots are to play on tour over there? indie rockish bands, but we dig the hippy scene so it's all cool. any help, i can gladly return the favor.
Uh, I feel strangely obligated to say Montpelier because there is a pretty good scene down there (but mostly for weird folk groups and more ethnic musics), and it's a real short distance away. Burlington is about the only place really worth going, though that leaps to mind immediately. I haven't been to much of the bigger town centers besides B-ton, Rutland and a couple others because they're basically all the same. Burlington is probably your best bet. Most of the state's best clubs are there. Come to Montpelier only if you want to play in a cafe or a bar.
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So, I saw a used Line 6 Space Chorus for $75, and I'm kinda dissapointed in my Boss CE-5 (too subtle). Should I get the Space Chorus?
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Dude, yes. Yes.
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(http://www.portcityamps.com/images/boost2.jpg) (http://www.portcityamps.com/boost.html)
It seems like there are millions of pedals out there. Along with those pedals there is just as much hype. Let’s cut to the chase. This pedal does one thing and one thing only. If you have a mid to high gain amp and you want more distortion - this is your pedal. The tone produced is not the boxy, stale distortion many pedals generate. The distortion that the Sahana Boost pedal delivers blooms and adds a new layer to your current tone. The Sahana Boost pedal was specifically designed for the new Sahana amp however it works great with any mid to high gain amp. This is not your average boost or overdrive pedal!
List Price: $165
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Boutique pedals make me smile. They're usually around 200 dollars and their companies still want you to buy some other pedals or amps that they were designed to 'compliment'. Then I'm reminded that Jimmy Page uses a Boss DS-1 and I rest easy.
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What's so great about the pedal above?
I'm considering the Hot Cake, does anyone have any experience with it?
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What's so great about the pedal above?
I'm considering the Hot Cake, does anyone have any experience with it?
No idea but Port City makes fine amps I am told.
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(http://images.hugi.is/hljodfaeri/153592.jpg)
My pedal setup
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Pickup Booster FTW
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It was a fun suprise that it was so cheap, it does a better job than many boutique boost pedal I have tried.
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I have recently learned that crappy quality reverb, delay and mod effects I am getting from my X3Live is due to DOINGITRONG. Since I rock the Orange TT and there's no effects loop 'pparently I would be best served preamping the signal a bit. Sometimes it works with the particular models I use but it is somewhat akin to alchemy.
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you could just put in an fx loop :-p
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DEAR GOD, YES (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A7VFxIBj84)
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I'm on the market for a new overdrive pedal. Should I get a BBE Green Screamer or a Bad Monkey?
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Does anyone have any experience with the ZVex Wah Probe? (or their Probe line in general) It seems like it could be either really awesome and useful, or specific and gimmicky. The closest physical distributor is probably Eugene or Portland from where I am (Boise) so I would have to order it online. For >$350 I want to do as much research on it as possible or just settle on the Fulltone Clyde.
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I'm on the market for a new overdrive pedal. Should I get a BBE Green Screamer or a Bad Monkey?
As far as overdrive goes, I love my Electro-Harmonix Double Muff.
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By the way, I did buy that ProCo RAT. With my modded Jaguar and Orange head it sounds awesome. I have yet to try it with my drone/doom guitar.
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any of you cats happen to rock a mxr micro amp on your boards? i'd like to add 2 of them to my board, to use as volume boosts in both positions.. 1 at the beginning of the chain, and 1 at the end of my chain. it's a hard pedal to try out in a store, because really i'm more concerned with how its going to react going through my line of delays, reverbs, etc. anyway, whos got one? do you run it direct to the amps input or the fx loop? for a $70 pedal, this post is stupid and i should just buy go buy one, but whatever. haha.
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I picked this up the other day:
(http://www.tonetronix.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/fran-glacier.jpg)
Frantone Glacier
Not sure what you guys think of ring modulators, but I am pretty much in love. It has an alternate input so you can hook up a mic and modulate the frequency with your voice or another guitar or a synth or whatever. Plus, if you dial it in high, you get a great vintage trem. Perfect when paired with my Space Echo.
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Start working on your Young Marble Giants covers!
Also: DIY Pedals-
http://digital.premierguitar.com/premierguitar/200911_1/#pg147
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Hey guys, instead of getting a bunch of pedals for my amp, I was thinking of upgrading amps altogether and buying a Vox Valvetronix VT15 or VT30 with the 5 button footswitch. Do you think this is acceptable?
It's got tons of effects and dedicated reverb.. just no wah :(.
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(http://www.re-fx.net/boss/dist/BOSS_HM-2.JPG)
Motherfuckers.
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haha, it should just have two knobs, Metal, and More Fucking Metal.
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Hey guys, instead of getting a bunch of pedals for my amp, I was thinking of upgrading amps altogether and buying a Vox Valvetronix VT15 or VT30 with the 5 button footswitch. Do you think this is acceptable?
It's got tons of effects and dedicated reverb.. just no wah :(.
My friend has the VX15. Decent little amp!
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The Boss Metal Zone only has two settings- "screech" and "unbearable"
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I'm thinking about buying a looping pedal for my kid for Christmas. Budget ~$300. I could be talked into spending more if there is a compelling reason, though I'd prefer not to if I don't have to.
Anyone got a recommendation or a horror story?
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I'm thinking about buying a looping pedal for my kid for Christmas. Budget ~$300. I could be talked into spending more if there is a compelling reason, though I'd prefer not to if I don't have to.
Anyone got a recommendation or a horror story?
RC-2 and a footswitch.
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Akai Headrush is awesome.
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Akai Headrush is awesome.
Yes.
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So I bought a loop pedal and I'm entirely unsure where it belongs in my effects chain. Are there important things that I have to keep in mind when using it? Distortion and the like?
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So I bought a loop pedal and I'm entirely unsure where it belongs in my effects chain. Are there important things that I have to keep in mind when using it? Distortion and the like?
Put it last or near last. I run my two delays after my looper.
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Yeah I was thinking the same, thanks. I would have just tried it, but all my gear is in the practice room so I only have an amp to try it out with. First impression: this thing opens up a whole new world of awesomeness! Now I can finally play my songs the way they're meant to be played.
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So I think imma buy a Barber Dirty Bomb when I get a job and start making bank. I was so stoked when I found out the guitar shop in town sells Barber gear.
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Latest board.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/34nmcuq.jpg)
Sorry for the cell-phone pic.
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Glad this thread got resurrected, so I can tell everyone that I bought one of these
(http://newsensor.com/images/DMemBoy_web.jpg)
Will let you know how ridiculous it is when it comes in the mail.
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I think Jon (Cernunnos) just got one of those, too.
Right now I'm kinda lusting after the new Malekko Chicklet reverb. About the same price as a Holy Grail.
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haha, it should just have two knobs, Metal, and More Fucking Metal.
Yeah, but as it is it just has two settings: "Dismember" and "Off".
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I think Jon (Cernunnos) just got one of those, too.
The one i got was a bit simpler than that(not the deluxe), but very awesome. It sounds good as a straight up delay and also makes some very strange noises.
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I want a Geiger Counter but it costs as much as my guitar : |