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Title: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: StaedlerMars on 19 Feb 2008, 05:52
 The World's Greatest Music Collection  (http://www.thegreatestmusiccollection.com/)

Guys if we all pitched in about 300 bucks we could do this.



Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: sean on 19 Feb 2008, 05:56
Hmmmm, I wonder what this (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/board,2.0.html) is for...
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Patrick on 19 Feb 2008, 07:41
GOD I FUCKING WANT IT
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: StaedlerMars on 19 Feb 2008, 10:47
Hmmmm, I wonder what this (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/board,2.0.html) is for...


Or you could have provided some useful insight?

GOD I FUCKING WANT IT

I know right? I actually want to know what he has. Can you imagine hearing all of these?

3 million records...

The museum that gets a hold of this library will house a very valuable and informative part of modern human society.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Slick on 19 Feb 2008, 10:53
While music can be used for the purposes of art and culture, far too often in the past has it been used for diabolical ends and for the spreading of secretive, counter-revolutionary messages. As such, in the interests of our forum and it's glorious revolution under it's new supreme ruler, all music shall be banned and this thread is declared locked for future posting, until such time as the land is safe again for loyal citizens to enjoy artistic, non-threatening works of music.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: valley_parade on 19 Feb 2008, 11:11
Why don't you just ban art and chocolate while you're at it?
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Slick on 19 Feb 2008, 11:15
For snide remarks in regards to your exalted bringer of light and leader for the futures to be, Valley_Parade is hereby declared unwelcome on these forums and should make his departure promptly lest he feel the full force of an angry nation, brought to bear upon his heretical self.

In unrelated news, cocoa, that most insidious of foods, is banned for consumption by any loyal forum goers, as it encourages restless, dissentfull tendencies amongst otherwise loyal citizens.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: valley_parade on 19 Feb 2008, 11:17
You used to be so cool, Slick. You made me a mixtape.

WHERE'D WE GO WRONG, MAN?
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Slick on 19 Feb 2008, 11:19
We did not go wrong, Shane, you did. While the forum was crumbling and society was falling apart all around us, I chose to make the world a better place and you chose to scavenge her corpse.
You have brought everything upon yourself, and now your day has come at last.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 19 Feb 2008, 12:14
Music, Art and literature must be held to policies of blacklisting and redaction. Only state supported and approved images, music and television will be allowed. Keep in mind that this is for your Protection.

England Prevails!
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Valrus on 19 Feb 2008, 12:38
I, for one, welcome our new oh fuck it HOW COULD YOU BAN COCOA
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Doug S. Machina on 19 Feb 2008, 13:07
I, for one, welcome our new oh fuck it HOW COULD YOU BAN COCOA

For your own good, citizen. BE VIGILANT.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Patrick on 19 Feb 2008, 14:45
REMEMBER REMEMBER THE FIFTH OF NOVEMBER
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Post by: Liz on 19 Feb 2008, 15:15
THE GUNPOWDER TREASON AND PLOT.

(Yay music collection!)
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Blue Kitty on 19 Feb 2008, 15:16
I KNOW OF NO REASON WHY THE GUN POWDER TREASON SHOULD EVER BE FORGOT

(that is a lot of music, how long would it take to listen to?)
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: öde on 19 Feb 2008, 15:25
REMEMBER REMEMBER TO STAY ON TOPIC GODDAMNIT
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: bbqrocks on 19 Feb 2008, 15:29
I bet I have some music that dude doesn't have.

Carry on with your revolution.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Liz on 19 Feb 2008, 15:32
REMEMBER REMEMBER TO STAY ON TOPIC GODDAMNIT

I edited my last post for you, I hope you're happy.

Also I think this is pretty cool, but as a person that will admit to not really being a fan of older music in general, I doubt I would ever pay any sort of money for it.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: BobJoeJim on 19 Feb 2008, 15:35
REMEMBER REMEMBER TO STAY ON TOPIC GODDAMNIT
Topic?  We ain't got no topic.  We don't need no topic.  I don't have to stay on any stinking topic.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Doug S. Machina on 19 Feb 2008, 15:46
REMEMBER REMEMBER TO STAY ON TOPIC GODDAMNIT
Topic?  We ain't got no topic.  We don't need no topic.  I don't have to stay on any stinking topic.

Topic? Where we're going, we don't need topic.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Patrick on 19 Feb 2008, 15:47
New topic: DICK IN YOUR NOSE
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Post by: Elizzybeth on 19 Feb 2008, 17:29
(that is a lot of music, how long would it take to listen to?)

The site says 57 years.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Hunter on 19 Feb 2008, 17:39
New topic: DICK IN YOUR NOSE

HOW DID THAT GET THERE?
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Chrasstor on 19 Feb 2008, 19:57
I'm going to transmit my cold to your dick like an STD.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: RedLion on 19 Feb 2008, 20:47
So you would be sneezing into the dick, then, or just in close enough proximity to it that your germs would pass onto it?

These are important distinctions.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: hannahrochelle on 19 Feb 2008, 21:11
Well, if the dick is in his nose, sneezing would definitely cause the germs to get in there.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Verergoca on 19 Feb 2008, 22:11
Maybe the dicker is wearing a condom?

I know i find diseases-of-the-genitalia a generally bad idea, so it would make sense?

Right?
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Patrick on 20 Feb 2008, 01:01
Sticking your dick somewhere without putting a condom on is always a terrible idea.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: The extra letter on 20 Feb 2008, 01:23
How much of the collection would be horrid pop and the like, though? That, my friends, is the question.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: KharBevNor on 20 Feb 2008, 04:44
Maybe the dicker is wearing a condom?

Maybe a sneeze is forceful enough to rupture a condom?
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: calenlass on 20 Feb 2008, 05:40
It happens in lots of it. I know for a fact there is orifice-oriented bukkake out there.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Patrick on 20 Feb 2008, 05:43
/r/ rapidshit
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: clockworkjames on 20 Feb 2008, 14:15
230ish years worth of music by my count.

57 seems so short, 4 mins a song, 10 songs an album 3 million albums...

I can't see where I went wrong :(
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Alex C on 20 Feb 2008, 14:21
Damn. I don't even have to read the posts now to know if it's been derailed or not. I just hit the End key, look to see if Kim Jong and Peyronie The Bear are hanging out together and I know.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: bbqrocks on 20 Feb 2008, 14:36
230ish years worth of music by my count.

57 seems so short, 4 mins a song, 10 songs an album 3 million albums...

I can't see where I went wrong :(

Yep, I got the same. But there are probably lots of EPs, or something... :|
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Joseph on 20 Feb 2008, 17:49
I would imagine loads and loads and loads of singles.  I wouldn't be surprised at all if half to two-thirds of it were singles.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Faker on 20 Feb 2008, 18:01
Well the site itself says:

3 Million Records
300,000 Compact Discs
More Than 6 Million Song Titles

So assuming an average of 4 minutes per track that would bring you closer to the 45-50 year mark.

I'm guessing the 6 million song titles must be 6million "unique" titles, i.e. excluding cover versions or perhaps the same song appearing on a number of different albums, best of compliations, soundtracks etc..

Though I think we can all agree that is an imperial fuck-ton of music!
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: KharBevNor on 20 Feb 2008, 18:45
Also note that he admits there are some duplicates in there.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: DonInKansas on 21 Feb 2008, 02:47
REMEMBER REMEMBER THE FIFTH OF NOVEMBER

Is that kinda like "Beware the Ides of March?"

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Doug S. Machina on 21 Feb 2008, 03:01
"Remember, Remember, the fifth of November, gunpowder, treason and plot.
 I see no reason why gunpowder treason should ever be forgot."

 The Gunpowder Plot attempted to blow up the Houses of Parliament (with barrels of gunpowder in the cellar.) Its failure is commemorated in the UK with bonfires and fireworks on Guy Fawkes Night, though these days the bonfires and fireworks are pretty much an end in themselves.

These people (http://www.gunpowder-plot.org/) know far more about it.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Patrick on 21 Feb 2008, 03:12
While I am aware of the history behind Guy Fawkes Day, I was totally just referencing V for Vendetta.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: bbqrocks on 21 Feb 2008, 12:02
Unless all the albums are grindcore...So each song is really like, 30-60 seconds.

That is, the grindcore with 30-60 second songs.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Spluff on 21 Feb 2008, 21:40
Wouldn't it have been far easier just to say 'unless all the songs are 30-60 seconds long'?
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Patrick on 22 Feb 2008, 17:11
That makes no sense whatsoever. It leaves out the vicious mockery of grindcore. If you're not potentially hurting at least one person's feelings in every post, you'd be better off singing Tom Jones covers in a shitty bar in downtown Little Rock.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: BobJoeJim on 22 Feb 2008, 20:54
So if this collection contains 57 years worth of music, how much music isn't in the collection?  In other words, how long would it take to actually listen to all music ever?
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Hat on 22 Feb 2008, 20:55
I am pretty sure more music is being created at this very moment than we could listen to before they start making more.

I would be curious to know how many people it would take to be able to make progress, and then how long it would take those people to work their way through music not being made right now.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: BobJoeJim on 22 Feb 2008, 20:57
Oh undoubtedly it wouldn't be possible, certainly not for a single person.  If you put all music ever on a play list though, how long would that play list be?  And for that matter, as per your point, how fast is it growing?
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Elizzybeth on 22 Feb 2008, 23:33
How do you define "music," though?  All music ever recorded?  Or just all music ever published?  I know there are times I've recorded twenty minutes or so of a practice session just so that I can play it back and hear where I've gone wrong.  Would that count?  What about the times I've done that then destroyed the digital file?  Would that practice session still be part of all music ever?  This is a sticky wicket, here.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Patrick on 23 Feb 2008, 06:33
So if this collection contains 57 years worth of music, how much music isn't in the collection?  In other words, how long would it take to actually listen to all music ever?

I think you misread that. That is 57 years of continuous playtime, not every piece of music ever recorded over the last 57 years.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: BobJoeJim on 23 Feb 2008, 14:32
Um, I think it is you that misread my post.  That second part where I say "In other words, how long would it take to listen to all music ever?" and my reference to play list lengths in my response to Hat should have made it pretty clear that I understand it is 57 years of playtime.

The title of this thread refers (hyperbolically) to "all music ever".  My question was, how much continuous playtime would all music ever actually entail, considering that this collection is 57 years?  Does this collection actually contain a meaningful percentage of all music ever, or would we be talking millenniums worth of music with this collection only scratching the surface?  I have no idea how to even begin trying to answer that question myself, particularly when you account for the difficulty in defining what constitutes "recorded music" as Elizzybeth pointed out.  I thought it might be an interesting topic for discussion though.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Liz on 23 Feb 2008, 14:36
If we are really talking about "all music ever" that would include the music that is being made right at this very second, the music that has already been made, and the music that has yet to be recorded. So you could never actually listen to all music ever because there is an infinite amount of it, and someday you will die and miss out on everything that is to come after you.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Elizzybeth on 23 Feb 2008, 15:17
I'm unreasonably depressed by that fact.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Patrick on 23 Feb 2008, 16:10
Quote from: The Newsbox every once in a while
The QuestionableContent Forums will quantify the worth of your existence
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: BobJoeJim on 23 Feb 2008, 16:34
someday you will die
Lies!  All lies!  Why are you lying to me?
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: StaedlerMars on 24 Feb 2008, 12:49
If we are really talking about "all music ever" that would include the music that is being made right at this very second, the music that has already been made, and the music that has yet to be recorded. So you could never actually listen to all music ever because there is an infinite amount of it, and someday you will die and miss out on everything that is to come after you.

unless of course the universe explodes, and magically you and all music that came before and finished recording was propelled out of it and survived, and then you listen to all the music ever, and then you die, and leave no music behind unheard. Then... then you will have heard all music ever. You would have to die, because then at any one point you would still possibly create more music, and thus not have heard all music ever. This of course raises the question... if music is being played, and there's no one around to hear it, is it still music? (that's actually a lot deeper sounding than it was meant to be).

Having said that, knock on wood.

anyways, what would be the point of having more than 70 years of music if you weren't going to hear it all? I have twenty days worth of music on my hard drive, and I doubt I've heard it all.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: bbqrocks on 24 Feb 2008, 12:53
I used to have like 40 days, but it all got wiped, so when I started building it back up again I swore to listen to every song at least once.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Doug S. Machina on 24 Feb 2008, 13:31
If we are really talking about "all music ever" that would include the music that is being made right at this very second, the music that has already been made, and the music that has yet to be recorded. So you could never actually listen to all music ever because there is an infinite amount of it, and someday you will die and miss out on everything that is to come after you.

unless of course the universe explodes, and magically you and all music that came before and finished recording was propelled out of it and survived, and then you listen to all the music ever, and then you die, and leave no music behind unheard. Then... then you will have heard all music ever. You would have to die, because then at any one point you would still possibly create more music, and thus not have heard all music ever. This of course raises the question... if music is being played, and there's no one around to hear it, is it still music? (that's actually a lot deeper sounding than it was meant to be).

Perhaps that without a mind to interpret it, it's just sound, like words in a book are just marks on paper unless someone is reading them.

Actually, that's a bit simplistic. I suppose written words are information in potentia*. So music is carrying its tune, waiting for someone to hear.



(*I wonder if I'm using that correctly?)
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: bbqrocks on 24 Feb 2008, 13:38
I don't see why music can't be music if no one hears it. music is defined as 'an art form consisting of sound and silence. Elements of music are pitch (which governs melody and harmony), rhythm (and its associated concepts tempo, meter, and articulation), dynamics, structure, and the sonic qualities of timbre and texture.', not 'an art form consisting of sound and silence. Elements of music are pitch (which governs melody and harmony), rhythm (and its associated concepts tempo, meter, and articulation), dynamics, structure, and the sonic qualities of timbre and texture. BUT ONLY IF PEOPLE CAN HEAR IT'.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Doug S. Machina on 24 Feb 2008, 13:45
I wasn't saying that a statue crumbles when no-one looks at it. (Also, I was wondering, not asserting.) The musical structure is still there, just as the words in book remain the same when it's closed. But do you need a receptive mind to recognise it as music?
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: bbqrocks on 24 Feb 2008, 13:52
Not in my opinion, no. But how about 'if no one can hear the music, does it make a sound?' If no one is there to hear it it's just vibrations, and if it's just vibrations (not sound) then it's not 'an artform involving sound and silence', therefore it is not music. Which would, of course, answer 'if music is being played, and there's no one around to hear it, is it still music?'.


I think.  :|
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Doug S. Machina on 24 Feb 2008, 14:02
Sounds reasonable to me.

Also, that might answer the ancient "tree falling in a forest when no-one is around" question.

We're making major philosophical progress here!
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: bbqrocks on 24 Feb 2008, 14:11
I knew we were doing something.
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Post by: Cam on 24 Feb 2008, 15:00
The actual number really isn't worth trying to calculate because you would die before listening to all music created before today. 
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Liz on 24 Feb 2008, 16:57
The only problem with the universe-ending theory is that when the universe ended you would too. Therefore, not able to listen to all the music.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Patrick on 25 Feb 2008, 06:01
Quote from: Everybody
PENISFART
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: KharBevNor on 25 Feb 2008, 06:52
So I think you'll all agree that this forum should now put serious amounts of research and effort into finding a way for me to ascend to a higher plane of existence where I have the powers of a God, so I can listen to all music that has ever been created, ever will be created or ever might have been created, and then gift you with lightning-blasted stone tablets telling you how much it all sucks.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Patrick on 25 Feb 2008, 07:02
Tried suicide yet?

(sssh, nobody tell him that it won't work, I want to see if he'll do it)
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: StaedlerMars on 25 Feb 2008, 08:33
(sssh, nobody tell him that it won't work, I want to see if he'll do it)

How would we know?
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: KharBevNor on 25 Feb 2008, 10:01
Patrick, when I become a god, my first miracle will be to make you pregnant with my only begotten son.

Did I mention that my only begotten son will be an elephant covered in spikes?
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Patrick on 25 Feb 2008, 13:32
I'm having an abortion.
Title: Re: Let's buy all music ever!
Post by: Doug S. Machina on 25 Feb 2008, 13:49
Does that mean the miracle has happened?
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Post by: Patrick on 25 Feb 2008, 14:05
It means I killed the child of God, therefore by some means, I am more powerful than God.

Suck it, Khar.
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Post by: Doug S. Machina on 25 Feb 2008, 14:14
Time to release the Saint of Killers?