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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Christophe on 26 Feb 2008, 20:20
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For some reason, I've been on a huge, shameful Grease kick. For the love of me, I have to repress the urge to belt out "Look at Me, I'm Sandra Dee" every hour or so. Yes, I am a dude. No, I do not like men. Is this normal, or should I go get psychiatric help?
Anyone else like musicals, or think that they're an abomination to music/theater? Anyone have any special ones they particularly enjoy, like Avenue Q or A Chorus Line?
(Anyone replying with Cats or Rent will be tossed off a bridge like Javert in Les Mis.)
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Yes, Cats is one of the worst musicals I have ever seen. Pretty much anything by Andrew Lloyd Webber is an abomination to society.
Of the newer musicals, Avenue Q and Spamalot are amazing. Wicked is pretty good, but overrated by pretty much everybody. It's the new Rent. I even thought Urinetown was better.
Of older musicals, I've always been a softie for Sondheim.
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I loved "Oliver!" even when I was little and wished all the Disney characters would stop God damn singing -- I hated all musicals except that one. I think because the music is just so good, even if I wonder now whether it makes Dickons turn in his grave. The Artful Dodger kid wins at life.
I really dug the recent "Chicago" movie, even when I didn't know the music at all, previously. Now I kind of do. I think those are my favorites. Oooh, and "Singin' in the Rain." Things with Gene Kelley are always a good choice.
"Annie", "Oklahoma" and all Andrew Lloyd Weber that I have ever heard must perish in a lake of fire.
Honestly, if a heterosexual male I knew was into "Grease" I would probably insult him a lot, and also find it really endearing. Like the kid I know who is 22 and can't stop reading "Star Wars" books (not that "Star Wars" isn't more awesome than "Grease", but the books? Its pretty awesomely dorky.)
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Musicals are not my thing, although I have seen a large number of them, including "Spamalot" on Broadway. I don't hate them, I don't think they are evil, they are just not my thing. However, my wife, and a large group of out friends like them, so I go and see a great many.
So, yeah, they are all right, I guess.
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Can't go wrong with Sondheim. Most of the time.
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Can't go wrong with Sondheim. Most of the time.
Damn right. "Sweeney Todd" is a masterpiece, and the stage show is 10 times better than the movie. "Assassins" is a great show too. "Passion"...not so much.
I've always loved "Les Miserables," as the book is one of my favorite novels, and Boubil and Schonbergs' other works--"Miss Saigon" and "Martin Guerre" are excellent as well. I like Frank Wildhorn's stuff--that is, before he goes and changes the entire show around and makes it shit. The Complete Anthology Or Whateverthefuckit'scalled of his Jekyll and Hyde is maybe the best musical I've ever heard. Unfortunately, it never went to stage in that form. Same thing with "The Scarlet Pimpernel."
Jason Robert Brown also does a lot of good stuff--"Parade" is a real standout. Dark, depressing and yet beautiful.
Andrew Lloyd Webber is an abomination. "Phantom of the Opera" is OK, and "Jesus Christ Superstar" is a classic. Beyond that, he's a shmuck.
However, I can't tolerate old-school musicals, like "The Sound of Music" and "Fiddler on the Roof." Anyone who enjoys listening to some old gasbag of a nun shrieking about climbing mountains needs to be dragged out into the street and shot, as an act of mercy.
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Please do not knock Rent. I love Rent. Also not ever Andrew Lloyd Webber musical is bad, just most of them. You cannot say that Phantom of the Opera is a bad musical. It is genius.
Then there's Spamalot, as it is the funniest thing I've seen in a long time. And lots of them that have become movies recently- Sweeney Todd, Chicago, Hairspray, etc. Moulin Rouge is also pretty much fantastic. All the muscials based on Disney movies are awesome as well.
Brigadoon is also a favorite, along with the classics like Anything Goes, Godspell, Carousel, Guys and Dolls, Les Mis, Singin' in the Rain, Grease, West Side Story, The Sound of Music, and Cats. Yes Cats. There's a reason that it was once the longest running show in Broadway history. It is a good musical.
tl;dr I LOVE MUSICALS.
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Actually, for ALW I'll go with Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat over everything else.
That, combined with Jesus Christ superstar, will actually make it possible to DOMINATE bible trivia games.
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My class went to NY to see "A Chorus Line" on Broadway when I was in middle school, needless to say it was not at all what my young mind thought Broadway was about. Added bonus: this was before the Disneyfication of 42nd Street.
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isit ok to mention "Rocky Horror Picture Show", because I really dig that show.
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Musicals are pretty much my life. I'm actually in 'Bye Bye Birdie', which is annoying at first but charming and full of dirty humor when you get into it.
Let's see, Oliver!, Grey Gardens, Chess(asldkjfalksdfj I want to see this so bad), Godspell, Jesus Christ Superstar, Across the Universe(Yes I know they're beatles songs, I just really love this movie and it does count as a musical), Spring's Awakening(annoying story, good music), LEGALLY BLONDE THE MUSICAL(Gooood I love this. So. Bad.)
Also, I love Fiddler on the Roof, AND the sound of music. I also loved the pirates of penzance, the Beauty and the Beast musical is pretty amazing. I really enjoyed Sweeney Todd, thought it had a lackluster ending though. Also, I love love love Blood Brothers.
Nom nom. Musicals, I'm going to QFT Misconception with the I LOVE MUSICALS comment and also point out that well over half my playlist is generally from musicals > >;
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Oh, I know. And I believe.
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Ooh, I forgot Pirates of Penzance. That's a really good one. And The Music Man, either film version. Also The Producers.
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isit ok to mention "Rocky Horror Picture Show", because I really dig that show.
I think its more than okay to mention it. I *love* RHPS. I don't know if you like the movie version too, but I just found out that they renovated the castle into a luxury hotel, and I kinda wanna stay at it.
I just saw "A Chorus Line" on Broadway the beginning of this month, and it was amazing, we ended up with really close seats too.
In two weeks, my friend and I are going to see "Jesus Christ Superstar." Its my first time seeing it (I know the soundtrack though), and her second or third time.
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Honestly, if a heterosexual male I knew was into "Grease" I would probably insult him a lot, and also find it really endearing. Like the kid I know who is 22 and can't stop reading "Star Wars" books (not that "Star Wars" isn't more awesome than "Grease", but the books? Its pretty awesomely dorky.)
I know full well that Grease is horrible, but damnit John Travolta, out of my head now fucking a nurrrrrrrrr must listen to more noise rock
My high school did some very good musicals while I was attending. They did Roar of The Greasepaint, Smell of the Crowd, Les Mis, A Chorus Line and Grease. They did Urinetown the year after I left, but I wasn't able to come back from college to see it. For the life of me, I can't find a near-decent performance of any song from Grease from a high school musical on youtube, it's fucking impossible (and maybe it's supposed to be that way), but our school did it really well. Like in Greased Lightning, where one school did it in front of a projector screen with a car on it, or when it's painfully obvious that it was stolen from a pinebox derby. My friend Tomi who was part of the musical referred to it as "Various degrees of hilarious pretend car".
For the record, I would pay to see a musical version of Glengarry Glen Ross. Or a musical scored by Anal Cunt.
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isit ok to mention "Rocky Horror Picture Show", because I really dig that show.
I think its more than okay to mention it. I *love* RHPS. I don't know if you like the movie version too, but I just found out that they renovated the castle into a luxury hotel, and I kinda wanna stay at it.
I just saw "A Chorus Line" on Broadway the beginning of this month, and it was amazing, we ended up with really close seats too.
In two weeks, my friend and I are going to see "Jesus Christ Superstar." Its my first time seeing it (I know the soundtrack though), and her second or third time.
the movie is awesome, the live show is insane.
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I've been wanting to see it live for a long time now. I had a chance last year, a friend of mine is a theater major at Miami of Ohio, and he was in their production of RHPS, but I didn't have a way to get down there for it :-(
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My high school did some very good musicals while I was attending. They did Roar of The Greasepaint, Smell of the Crowd, Les Mis, A Chorus Line and Grease. They did Urinetown the year after I left, but I wasn't able to come back from college to see it. For the life of me, I can't find a near-decent performance of any song from Grease from a high school musical on youtube, it's fucking impossible (and maybe it's supposed to be that way), but our school did it really well. Like in Greased Lightning, where one school did it in front of a projector screen with a car on it, or when it's painfully obvious that it was stolen from a pinebox derby. My friend Tomi who was part of the musical referred to it as "Various degrees of hilarious pretend car".
Wow, didn't know Urinetown was up for high school yet.
I was fortunate enough to only appear in the only worthwile musical my high school performed (Les Mis)
However, I was unfortunate enough to get stuck in the pit orchestra for the other three. Guys and Dolls wasn't so bad, but I despised both Oklahoma and Joseph so much
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No love for Gilbert & Sullivan? I am a fan of the H.M.S. Pinafore especially. And Chess is pretty amazing.
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This may not count, but honestly most of my favourite musical-type songs are the pisstake ones from the likes of Scrubs, Futurama or Simpsons, which whilst having no legitimate credibility, are fantastically composed and very, very funny.
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Pirates of Penzance.
hear hear.
also: Cabaret, anyone?
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Blues Brothers
The Wicker Man
The Rocky Horror Picture Show
I think I have only ever seen Andrew Lloyd Webber musicals in a theatre, and those all with school. I saw The Woman in White (boring), Starlight Express (confusing) and Jesus Christ, Superstar (alright). I liked the Sweeney Todd film, but only in parts not involving the young sailor and Sweeneys daughter. I gained major respect for Burton when he didn't tack on a happy ending bit showing them running away.
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The Blues Brothers films are excellent. I hope they make another one some time soon.
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I can't believe Misconception is the only one to show some West Side Story love, come on it has gangs dancing. AT. each other.
You're all fired.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgnwLAMwWx0
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Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny!
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What?
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Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny!
No.
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Les fucking Mis.
You can go home now.
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Our marching band played an arrangement of some songs from Les Miserables for contest and that sent me into a healthy obsession with the musical and Victor Hugo. I'm not really a musical freak or anything of the sort but Les Mis is full of awesome songs, I can never really get bored of it.
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Les Mis is easily my favorite. Despite the teeming hatred I hold for the catastrophe of music that is Cats, some Andrew Lloyd Webber stuff is really good, I particularly like Phantom of the Opera and Jesus Christ Superstar. Little Shop of Horrors is quirky and awesome, I saw that one fourth row like two weeks before it went off broadway. Assassins is a little more obscure, but find the original recording (the off-broadway one preferably) if you can and you'll love it. Even though Rent is totally overrated, it does have some great moments, but rabid Rent-heads ruin this one for the rest of us, same goes for Wicked -- both of these, despite their horrid fanbases, are very good plays and are worth seeing.
Oh, for those of you who like OK Go and one particular show I'm fond of...click here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=mXsuFtqGrNQ).
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But Grease isn't terrible! It's fun and catchy and the songs stick in your head. It's not meant to be anything else.
I've never seen the stage version, but Hedwig was great.
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There's a recent Chinese film called "Perhaps Love" - not sure if it's based on a stage production, but it's got most of the hallmarks of a Western-style musical. Pretty entertaining, if you ever get the chance to see it.
I was fortunate enough to be in the pit for a few of my high school productions: "Into the Woods" and "How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying." Both of those were really good.
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I agree with what's his face (I can't be bothered to scroll all the way back up there!) - Jekyll and Hyde is pretty much the best show ever, and totally ignored in favor of Les Mis and the like. Not a knock against "popular" musicals, but it was really nice to see a musical do something different - it's dark + twisted, and doesn't have any of those "let's have a random tapdance for no apparent reason" (I'm talking to you, Crazy for You!). The Original Broadway Cast recording is very decent, but the Original London Concept Cast recording is a must-listen.
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This may not count, but honestly most of my favourite musical-type songs are the pisstake ones from the likes of Scrubs, Futurama or Simpsons, which whilst having no legitimate credibility, are fantastically composed and very, very funny.
Duuuude. Buffy! (http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_More%2C_with_Feeling_%28Buffy_episode%29")
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Better link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_More%2C_with_Feeling_%28Buffy_episode%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_More%2C_with_Feeling_%28Buffy_episode%29)
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Once More With Feeling made my top 10 for 2002.
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I have been listening to the Sweeney Todd soundtrack (movie one because I lack in theatre-going-and-music-owning) on repeat since I friggin saw it. Approximately two months ago.
Spamalot likes nesting in my head a lot.
West Side Story has stolen one eardrum.
Chicago, Jesus Christ Superstar, and Phantom of the Opera share the other one.
I like me some musicals but I want to stabbity stab my brain out when they won't leave me alone. D:
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I never could get into Sondheim and I'm not sure why.
Miss Saigon is my personal favourite, with Les Miz being a close second. (The "school" version of Les Miz can suck it, though. I did not need to see the iconography in a letterman jacket, thankyouverymuch.)
I got an out-of-the-blue chance to see Dirty Rotten Scoundrels in its original NYC run and it was awesome. I think I nearly crapped in my pants when John Lithgow walked on stage, because we literally got the tickets shoved into our hands when friends of ours couldn't go and had to RUN to get to the theatre on time and inside and I didn't look at the program. It was a great show.
Cats is The Musical Without A Plot. The costumes, set design, and dancing are amazing. The lyrics by virtue of being the work of T.S. Elliot, save Memory, are given a pass. The rest: eeeeh.
I grew up on my dad's old cast albums from the 80s so the Phantom of the Opera kind of got ingrained into my psyche and we've got this complex love-hate thing going on. The recent film is utter camp and Patrick Wilson is the only one of the leads who can sing, but I don't let that bother me. Much.
Lloyd-Webber is a dick for many reasons but foremost among these is that he is writing a sequel musical for Phantom based on a certain book by Frederick Forsyth which is, in turn, based on HIS OWN MUSICAL. Forsyth spends most of the preface taking a royal shit on Leroux for getting it wrong in the original book and the rest of the author's notes are spent kissing ALW's ass. This musical sequel is to be known as "The Phantom of Manhattan." Or as I and several people I know like to think of it "The Phantom of the Opera 2: The Search for More Money."
I tend to like old-school stuff. Showboat, Fiddler on the Roof, the Sound of Music, Mary Poppins, Kiss Me Kate, Meet Me in St. Louis; pretty much anything with Judy Garland. The colourful MGM musicals of the 40s and 50s where the achingly long shots proved that the leads could actually pull off whole dance numbers at a go.
I've got my fingers crossed that I can get a ticket to go see Blood Brothers in March sometime.
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For all the Sondheim talk, no one has mentioned Into The Woods yet!
Sure, it's a little heavy-handed toward the end, but Bernadette Peters is my HERO. It's also nice to have my suspicions confirmed: Prince Charming really is a cheating bastard!
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There's a recent Chinese film called "Perhaps Love" - not sure if it's based on a stage production, but it's got most of the hallmarks of a Western-style musical. Pretty entertaining, if you ever get the chance to see it.
I was fortunate enough to be in the pit for a few of my high school productions: "Into the Woods" and "How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying." Both of those were really good.
I said it was really good. =P
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durrdurrdurr
I knew there was a reason I didn't bother mentioning it in my first post on this thread. My bad.
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I hadn't thought of The Blues Brothers as a musical before, but it's a movie where people occassionally burst into song, so I guess it fits the bill.
Jesus Christ Superstar is amazing. I grew up listening to the Broadway Cast album and don't like what they changed for the movie (and seriously, Ian Gillan blows Ted Neely away), but I've seen a couple of different stage productions, both of which were gr-r-r-eat!
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The Blues Brothers contains multiple scenes where people start singing and dancing almost at random, as well as scenes where you might actually expect music to be playing (gigs and so forth). I'd definitely have it down as a musical.
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Bollywood films in general I'll watch for the utter camp, melodrama and completely implausible dream-sequences.
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Why hasn't anyone mentioned
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yet. I loved it, but I can see how it could rub some people the wrong way.
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I haven't even heard of it. But I live in the middle of no where.
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Wait one of the songs won an oscar and the guy was an arrogant dick and the girl almost didn't get to do her speech. I remember that now.
However, if it's actually good I may invest in seeing it.
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I've never liked The Sound of Music. Boring, campy beyond "so-campy-it's-cool"-ism, the songs are about as relevant to the story as a unicorn at a lynching, and come ON, do you seriously expect untrained children to have PERFECT UNDERSTANDING of harmony and counterpoint melodies after you sing them "Do re mi" two fucking times?
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I'm not a big fan of the Sound of Music either, however i do love Musicals in general. The first one I was ever a part of was Annie, then I was in a production of The Wiz. I've since fallen in love with Chicago, Rent, Oklahoma, Rocky Horror, A New Brain, and a myriad of others. I am hoping to take in some when I go to New York to see Equus over winter break next year. That is, if I can get my group of friends to agree to go to them. If not, I'll just go on my own while they see the sites I don't care about.
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I never could get into Sondheim and I'm not sure why.
The dissonance perhaps? (Although this is what makes me love Sondheim so very much.)
Lloyd-Webber is a dick for many reasons but foremost among these is that he is writing a sequel musical for Phantom based on a certain book by Frederick Forsyth which is, in turn, based on HIS OWN MUSICAL. Forsyth spends most of the preface taking a royal shit on Leroux for getting it wrong in the original book and the rest of the author's notes are spent kissing ALW's ass. This musical sequel is to be known as "The Phantom of Manhattan." Or as I and several people I know like to think of it "The Phantom of the Opera 2: The Search for More Money."
I, uh, buh...WHA?! Is this really true? Sadly, I've read the "sequel"--and it's worth about as much as a pile of shit. If he really is making a musical out of it, he must want to deliberately bury his career once and for all.
Also, can't believe I forgot to mention West Side Story and Chess. "Anthem" is one of my favorite songs just in general, not solely in showtune terms.
Aida is alright, too.
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Has anyone actually seen the opera on which Aida is based? I've been relatively intrigued about it ever since I learned that it was originally a Verdi opera.
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Yes, Verdi's Aida is truly wonderful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aida (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aida)
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Lloyd-Webber is a dick for many reasons but foremost among these is that he is writing a sequel musical for Phantom based on a certain book by Frederick Forsyth which is, in turn, based on HIS OWN MUSICAL. Forsyth spends most of the preface taking a royal shit on Leroux for getting it wrong in the original book and the rest of the author's notes are spent kissing ALW's ass. This musical sequel is to be known as "The Phantom of Manhattan." Or as I and several people I know like to think of it "The Phantom of the Opera 2: The Search for More Money."
I, uh, buh...WHA?! Is this really true? Sadly, I've read the "sequel"--and it's worth about as much as a pile of shit. If he really is making a musical out of it, he must want to deliberately bury his career once and for all.
His kitten, Otto, pounced on his electric keyboard and erased half of the composition and became my hero for a short while. Then Otto got hit by a car and died. I'm of the opinion that this wasn't an accident and Lloyd-Webber orchestrated the whole thing in revenge.
And it is TOTALLY for more money. And to draw in the phanbrat 13 year old girl-monsters they created with the movie. They can't accept that Erik DIES a VIRGIN in the end, so they have to bring him back so he can whore it up with the girl who left him for the man she really loved but then apparently she doesn't love him because she's having the Phantom's baby...and my heart is so broken by all of this.
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Erik DIES a VIRGIN
Poor, poor Vergy.
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I figure he deserves it because he's a psychotic killer.
Then again, maybe it's just the blue balls making him a psychotic killer.
Vicious cycles...
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The Blues Brothers contains multiple scenes where people start singing and dancing almost at random, as well as scenes where you might actually expect music to be playing (gigs and so forth). I'd definitely have it down as a musical.
Oh definitely. It's just that I think of it as a Comedy. That doesn't exclude it from the Musical category, it's just not what I think of first.
Damn genre confusion!
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I've been listening to the soundtrack for Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Tim Curry. <3
Which is sort of a musical.
But not in the Dean Martin/Frank Sinatra way.
IN THE TIM CURRY WAY. :]
Is that how you spell his name?
(antici----pation!)
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>jill the ripper:
Yup, thats how his name is spelled.
I also <3 Tim Curry in RHPS, except now everytime that I see Tim Curry or hear his voice (from the clown in Stephen King's It to the voice of the dad on Nickelodeon's The Wild Thornberry's) it makes me think of that role played by Frank-n-furter, and then I giggle alot. ALOT.
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glen hansard can suck some dicks
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Someone mentioned Bollywood.
LAGAAN.
All 3 hours and 40 minutes of it.
Although, I've watched it three times and I still don't understand cricket.
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I have heard so much about Lagaan and can't track down a rentable copy anywhere I've been. Maybe my video store just sucks.
Also: Mamma Mia!, anyone? I am so ready to see Meryl Streep do Dancing Queen, you have no idea.
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That is the beauty of netlfix.
I also lovelovelove the musical version of Auntie Mame.
Hell, I love any version of Auntie Mame/
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Although, I've watched it three times and I still don't understand cricket.
You could watch a fucking year-long video seminar on the rules of cricket and not understand it. It is a ridiculous sport. Real sports don't involve 3-day tea breaks.
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Also: Mamma Mia!, anyone? I am so ready to see Meryl Streep do Dancing Queen, you have no idea.
I saw this in NYC. I dislike ABBA a lot. I was not having a very good time.
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I also lovelovelove the musical version of Auntie Mame.
Hell, I love any version of Auntie Mame/
Ever seen Connie & Carla? Mame makes recurring appearances in the movie.
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Someone mentioned Bollywood.
LAGAAN.
All 3 hours and 40 minutes of it.
Although, I've watched it three times and I still don't understand cricket.
Mate, I'm English born and bred and I've seen any number of cricket matches, and even I don't understand cricket...
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nobody will understand cricket, the only you need to understand is that a cricket bat is the perfect weapon against zombie.
I forgot to mention a new musical about zombie, check it out "Song of the dead" just goggle it.
all yeah how nobody metion Hair yet, or that one came out last year Across The Universe?
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Hair... that title reminds me of Hairspray.
Hairspray was fucking boring.
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I'm going to kill you now.
Hairspray, originally, was not a musical. It was a dance movie. There was a stage production that they put music to, and the remake is of that.
So, it's gone Movie>Play>Movie. :]
Speaking of John Waters, Crybaby has to be the most fabulous musical from 1969 onwards.
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Hair... that title reminds me of Hairspray.
Hairspray was fucking boring.
Hairspray was a good play, but the remake movie was fucking terrible. Whoever casted that piece of shit deserves to be shot. Or just forced to actually watch the movie, I'm not sure which is worse.
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I saw the original film and the remake and I hated them both quite equally.
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I also lovelovelove the musical version of Auntie Mame.
Hell, I love any version of Auntie Mame/
Ever seen Connie & Carla? Mame makes recurring appearances in the movie.
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man, i love netflix.
Hell, Mame makes recurring appearances in my life. My grandmother was exactly like her. Exactly.
Granted, she died of lung cancer and possible brain cancer from alcoholism and smoking three packs a day, but she was still rad.
I saw the original film and the remake and I hated them both quite equally.
Hairspray has the John Waters bad movie quality. And you really have to like the way John Waters makes movies to like Hairspray.
Otherwise, it is shit.
But, I must give John Travolta kudos. He was actually pretty good as the mother. I forgot he was, you know, a man, for a few moments during the movie. :]
I THOUGHT HE WAS GOOD, AT LEAST.
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You don't understand, Miss, I hated them both equally. This is not to say that I did not hate them at all. This is to say that I hated them both passionately.
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Something very odd happened to my previous post. It is fixed, now.
Bluh. I mean, I get what you're saying.
But, I mean (imeanimeanimean) that, to like either Hairspray, you have to like John Waters.
And his style of film making, in the script as well as the directing, can go from campy to creepy (umm, pink flamingos?) which is a very particular taste.
Even remakes cannot erase John Water's mark!
The new one...
was corny in a bad way, at times. I hated that stupid candle-lit montage.
OKAY.
SHUTTING UP NOW.
Before I talk myself into more of a corner.
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You could watch a fucking year-long video seminar on the rules of cricket and not understand it.
The rules are essentially similiar to baseball, I don't see what's so complex.
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Where are the bases. Where's the catcher. Where are the fucking hot dogs and beer.
NOT EVEN CLOSE DUDE
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I LOVE MUSICALS.
Yes, I love Rent, too. But my favorite ever ever is Les Miserables. Also the Sound of Music is pretty awesome.
I hate Cats! I hate Annie too, but when my high school did a production of it last year it was actually quite good, unlike any other version I've seen of it...
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Oh of course...
When your school does Annie it's good
But when anyone else does it?
I see how it is
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Victor/Victoria is pretty awesome. Then again, I'm a sucker for cross-dressing of any kind.
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The 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee has got to be one of the most enjoyable musicals I've seen in recent years. It's hilarious, sometimes touching, and has great music.
As far as the classics go, I'm a big fan of Fiddler, Sweeney Todd, Les Mis, etc.
I was recently in Footloose, which is a very fun show to act in and to watch, if you suspend disbelief about the storyline.
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Musicals eh, well, I like Grease, though I admit that I prefer the movie, yes shame on me. Other favorites are Chicago, The Producers, and The Birdcage.
I have seen Cats, and I regret it, though a good theater group can make it decent, but inherent flaws means its dead. I want to see West Side Story, so bad, and probably Romeo and Juliet, since I have heard WSS is based off of Romeo and Juliet, and I want to see the proof. Didn't they make a play version of The Outsiders? I know they have the movie, have seen it, missed a lot of the parts they cut from the book, but I've heard rumours of a play version.
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Oh of course...
When your school does Annie it's good
But when anyone else does it?
I see how it is
Exactly
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I love music, and singing, so musicals are WONDERFUL. My most recent love is Sweeny Todd, which is completely awesome. It's definately on my list of favorites.
And yes, Rent is so overloved, but the songs are too much fun to sing.
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Five hundred twenty five thousand six hundred miiinnnnnuuuuuuuuuutes.
I hate that song. It was just a boring to sing.
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I like more the songs and quotes from Rent that make the over abundance of Catholics in my town stare. Like singing 'take me or leave me' in a duet with another one of my female friends
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Romeo and Juliet
I know this is taken out of context, but if I ever have to see any interpretation of Romeo and Juliet EVER AGAIN I swear to god I will destroy this entire planet with my mind-fury.
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Can I help? Pretty please?
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From what I've seen of Phantom of the Opera, it actually rocks. I need to see all of it.
No one has mentioned The King and I! Yule Brenner rules the world! It has an excellent score, is funny, moving, and has a nice storyline. I love The King and I.
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The Phantom of the Opera does rock, completely. We saw it at the Kennedy Center and it literally brought tears to my eyes, it was so intense.
I mean, the Phantom has coached her, taught her so much, taken her to incredible heights, shown her nothing but love, and all he wants is some kind of recognition. He's pleading with her, but there's the narcissistic pretty-boy who dumped her long ago and has done nothing for her ever since (except kinda stalk her), and she chooses... well, you know the story. It's not really a spoiler. Nice guys finish last, looks do matter, and girls are dumb.
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Wow, a theatrical production that features unrequited love. Real unique.
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The Phantom of the Opera does rock, completely. We saw it at the Kennedy Center and it literally brought tears to my eyes, it was so intense.
I mean, the Phantom has coached her, taught her so much, taken her to incredible heights, shown her nothing but love, and all he wants is some kind of recognition. He's pleading with her, but there's the narcissistic pretty-boy who dumped her long ago and has done nothing for her ever since (except kinda stalk her), and she chooses... well, you know the story. It's not really a spoiler. Nice guys finish last, looks do matter, and girls are dumb.
Well, the phantom did sort of kidnap her and hold her against her will. Hardly selfless love right there. Then you have the guy who's willing to brave anything to save her from the one holding her hostage. While the phantom at points is the subject of sympathy, he acts selfishly and ultimately is so disgusted with himself that he forces them to leave so he can die alone.
But, that's the beauty. Shades of gray and whatnot.
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Romeo and Juliet
I know this is taken out of context, but if I ever have to see any interpretation of Romeo and Juliet EVER AGAIN I swear to god I will destroy this entire planet with my mind-fury.
I know the feeling. R and J is probably my least favorite of all of Shakespeare's works.
Regarding King and I (with Yul Brenner): that's an enjoyable movie musical. Not fantastic, but admirable.
Regarding Phantom: will someone please explain to me what is so appealing about this musical?! I don't get it at all!
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I already hated it the first time I had to read it in school. Then came the 5th time. Then the 6th.
God I hate that fucking play.
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I think that some of the poetry in Romeo and Juilet is gorgeous, and I like some of the characters, but I really just don't like the play as a whole.
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Romeo and Juliet is a classic example of exactly how I'm cursed. My favorite characters are doomed to die.
Paris. The only character in the entire play that I actually like. Well, I sort of like Mercrutio, but not as a person. IRL, I'd hate him.
BUT PARIS. Paris breaks my heart.
The rest of them, especially Romeo and Juliet, are pricks. Juliet is a little attention-monger slut who can't do a thing her parents say and abuses her nurse as well as everyone around her, and Romeo is a prissy little prat that throws a tantrum every time he doesn't get his way, and only thinks of what he wants right at that moment. I hate them all. No one in that play follows the law, and all of them fall to ruin. And that's the point, really. Juliet doesn't follow her parent's law, the houses don't follow the prince's law, etc. Drives me insane.
. . . I just came back from writing an essay-test on Romeo and Juliet's theme of "Thoughtless, selfish actions lead to the demise of everyone." >[
To like Phantom you really have to enjoy Byronic heroes. You know, the gallant hero with a dark secret, or the imperfect, stormy hero. Rochester, in Jane Eyre, is similar. You also sort of have to be a teenage girl. And that, you see, I am. Phantom is intensely romantic. In the old way, not in the Meg Ryan way. In the tragic, painful way. And therefore, it is very difficult to do correctly, as society today does not see Phantom as romantic in the way it should be. It should, in fact, be creepy. It should be a little bit disturbing. He is, in fact, a stalker.
But it's a musical, so we're willing to suspend disbelief for a few hours.
The sanitized, wooed and gallant versions I've recently seen are not so great.
I need to turn off the essay switch now. Bluhhh.
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I shall give you a quote about just what is so wrong about Romeo and Juliet. The narrator, a guy, went on a date and saw the play.
We ascended the aisle and made our way through the crowded lobby onto the steps of the playhouse. There were girls everywhere, all of them misty-eyed. Two girls in front of us were talking to each other. One of them threew her arms in the air and cried out, I wish I could know love like Romeo and Juliet!
I couldn't take it anymore. I whispered under my breath, They're dead.
I didn't think anyone heard me, but my date did. The two girls next to us heard me also, and they told the people next to them. One idiot guy repeated what I said and laughed, pointing at me. All the girls looked at me like I had just stepped on a cat. My date's body grew cold. She let go of my hand. She crossed her arms over her chest and walked a few feet in front of me all the way back to the truck. On the way home she hugged the far door so tightly I thought she was going to fall out. When we got back to her house I asked her if she would like to go out again.
"I don't think so," she said.
"Why?"
"I don't think I could like you."
"Why?"
"I just don't."
"Can we kiss? I hear that helps a girl fall in love."
"You are evil," she said. "The Antichrist!"
tl;dr Point is, the guy is right and the play turns a lot of girls into ninnies. Romeo and Juliet were silly and the play is lame. A Midsummer Night's Dream is so much better.
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True! Midsummer is a much better exploration of love than Romeo and Juliet.
Though I love Mercutio's 'Queen Mab' speech. I really like Mercutio's character.
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Troilus and Cressida is a better romance than Romeo and Juliet. So is As You Like It. And... well, gosh, just about any other Shakespeare romance.
Titus Andronicus (I think I spelled that right) and Romeo and Juliet are my two least favorite plays of Shakespeare's. Both Lavinia and Paris die. Break my heart, it does. Those two are sort of the fan service plays, I was told, somewhere. Writer had to live, you know. R&J was written rather early.
T. A. is especially disliked because my father showed me Titus when I was thirteen without telling me a thing about it preemptively. Only that it was Shakespeare. Sort of came as a shock.
Oh, I must have read Midsummers a good dozen times by now. Every word that Helen says is pure gold. The Kevin Kline movie version has Rupert Everett as Oberon, as well, doing a brilliant job. I mean, he recites the lines like lines. Pausing where there are commas, and periods and other punctuation, not the end of the line like so many other actors who try to do Shakespeare do (poor Alicia Silverstone.)
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tl;dr Point is, the guy is right and the play turns a lot of girls into ninnies. Romeo and Juliet were silly and the play is lame. A Midsummer Night's Dream is so much better.
Girls turn into ninnies over it because they don't realize that Shakespeare was trying to parody the over-the-top dramas of the day. There's so much irony in that play, the thing's a comedic masterpiece. People just don't get it. So it makes girls cry and guys puke because nobody seems to get that Shakespeare wasn't trying to write a beautiful play about unlimited love; he was making fun of playwrights that did so poorly.
But I agree, Midsummer Night's Dream is better, as is Much Ado About Nothing. Hell, I love everything I've read by him (though admittedly I'm missing a few of the classics).
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Girls turn into ninnies over it because they don't realize that Shakespeare was trying to parody the over-the-top dramas of the day. There's so much irony in that play, the thing's a comedic masterpiece. People just don't get it. So it makes girls cry and guys puke because nobody seems to get that Shakespeare wasn't trying to write a beautiful play about unlimited love; he was making fun of playwrights that did so poorly.
Yeah, well, over the course of centuries, though technology and lifestyles have changed, we've all lost our sense of humor.
I'm also just fucking sick of reading that stupid play. I have only ever had one teacher (out of six who have had us read it) who didn't read the play to the class as being an incredibly romantic, tragic story of ill-fated lovers. No, he read it to us as a "14-year-olds can be so bloody retarded sometimes and hahahahaha they killed themselves over a misunderstanding bahahahahahahaha".
Made it so much better when I realized Mercutio's "I back thee!" line is really just a buttsecks joke.
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Much Ado About Nothing is tied with Midsummer Night's Dream as my favorite Shakespeare play.
And I could honestly care less about the irony in R&J. I've just never liked that play. It's hard to appreciate irony when you hate the things it's being ironic about. But the "I bite my thumb at you, sir" is a good line. Mercutio is the only decent character in the play. It would have been much more successful if it was a play about Mercutio goofing off and not all this suicide because of love lols crap.
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Andrew Lloyd Webber painted the Phantom as a much more sympathetic character than he appears as in the original novel. Bear in mind that in the book it's not just a matter of "marry me or your boyfriend dies!" it's more "marry me or I level an entire city block filled with babies and My Little Parisien Ponies. And I MIGHT just make you watch as I drown and/or Shake N' Bake your boyfriend and the only person remotely near to a friend that I ever had."
Then the 2004 movie went an extra step further and TOTALLY made the Phantom an utterly sympathetic character DESPITE THE FACT THAT HE KILLS PEOPLE because the two men he's shown to kill are 2-dimensional leches. Well, one's a lech and the other's just fat. Therefore they don't really deserve a place in our hearts as human beings with lives worth living. Also, they omitted Raoul's confrontation of the Phantom in the graveyard (I also noticed in a recent touring production I saw, the three-part song by the mausoleum was cut short in some ways and they omitted many of the original lines which clearly show the extent of the Phantom's INSANITY and EVIL.) The part where Raoul, quite rightly, tells the Phantom to step off and let Girlie make her own decisions and PLEASE stop pretending to be her dead father to emotionally manipulate her into some pseudo-incestuous relationship with the supernatural. Girlie: Raoul has a point, you know. Phantom's response: "I will take BOTH you bitches down, now."
Stage-phantom is worth seeing for the stage-tricks alone. They DO use visual doubles during the first descent into the lair because there's no way ANYONE could move that fast backstage, the bit up on Apollo's Lyre OWNS when it shoots him back up into the rafters etc..
Tanz der Vampir has some excellent dancing and songs; and Total Eclipse of the Heart, only in German, and about Vampire Lovin'.
Carpe Noctem gives me grins of theatre-going glee and gave my friend nightmares about nightmares about pansexual vampire rape.
Please don't think I mean the shit English version of the above. The translation version of Tanz went over like a lead balloon, and rightly so.
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Oh, I must have read Midsummers a good dozen times by now. Every word that Helen says is pure gold. The Kevin Kline movie version has Rupert Everett as Oberon, as well, doing a brilliant job. I mean, he recites the lines like lines. Pausing where there are commas, and periods and other punctuation, not the end of the line like so many other actors who try to do Shakespeare do (poor Alicia Silverstone.)
I have to take issue with the comment regarding reading lines like lines, because Shakespeare didn't put those commas in. They are added by editors when they compile an edition form the various quartos and folios. While they are useful in exploring how to say the line, and sometimes great places to pause, they are simply one of several tools to use when performing Shakespeare and should be taken with a grain of salt because they are not Shakespeare's. When reading and performing Shakespeare's verse, it is just as useful to consider the end of a verse line as a piece of punctuation.
Also, while I enjoyed that movie version of Midsummer, I don't think its great. Other film versions of Shakespeare (especially Kenneth Brannagh's Much Ado and Akira Kurosawa's RAN) are better.
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But you still don't repeat the lines like,
Two house holds, both alike in dignity (PAUSE)
In fair Verona, where we lay our scene (PAUSE)
From ancient break to new mutiny (PAUSE)
Where civil blood make civil hands unclean (PAUSE)
From forth the fatal loins of these two foes (PAUSE)
A pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life (PAUSE)
With the pauses at the end, it seems... sterile. Normal poetry isn't recited that way, why should Shakespeare?
...then it's something about misadventures, but I haven't memorized that part yet.
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Andrew Lloyd Webber painted the Phantom as a much more sympathetic character than he appears as in the original novel. Bear in mind that in the book it's not just a matter of "marry me or your boyfriend dies!" it's more "marry me or I level an entire city block filled with babies and My Little Parisien Ponies. And I MIGHT just make you watch as I drown and/or Shake N' Bake your boyfriend and the only person remotely near to a friend that I ever had."
This is so good. Everyone should read this whole post.
The original Phantom of the Opera book is quite good and you do really see the "real" Phantom much more than the movie shows. Susan Kay also wrote a book called "Phantom" abou the same character but it covers his whole life and not just his time at the opera house. The book is so beautifully written, it's one of my favorites. Somehow she manages to make you pity and despise the phantom at the same time. Pity because he had a pretty shitty life growing up (naturally) and despise because the whole way he was doing horrible things to just about everyone and everything.
But anyways. Musicals! Let's get back on topic, shall we?
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I just noticed the rather blatant similarities between Heathcliff in Wuthering Heights and the Phantom.
Is that something that everyone knows about, or did I just stumble upon a gem?
You know, the whole crazies thing, for one.
And the weird father stuff.
And the killing people.
I think Heathcliff kills someone. But their personality types are very similar, none the less.
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With kids I get to see the kiddie versions of Joseph et Technicolour Coat, Annie, Bugsy etc... and you appreciate the effort the kids go to do what they do (although your ears HATE you).
I am going to have to go with the impromptu musical that occasionally springs our of weekly shows (like Scrubs - thanks to whoever brought that up earlier in this thread) as my current favourite musical show experience.
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I saw Joseph + Coat in London and it was pretty good. It sucks going to a show for the first time and you already know how everything happens, though. It makes me laugh at people being horrified at "The Passion of the Christ" though. I am pretty sure the Bible was pretty fucking clear on how things went down. Way to go, WORLD.
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I think Heathcliff kills someone.
Not kill so much as let people waste away. But he did basically kidnap people and hold them hostage and was a general all around douche bag. I hate Heathcliff. Catherine too.
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^^ God, yeah. I watched the 1992 movie the other day and I was so glad I'd only wasted two hours on that rather than reading the book when my English Major sister was pressuring me to do so.
Jane Eyre! Now there's a book which is ALSO a musical, so it's not an entirely off-topic post.
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Stage-phantom is worth seeing for the stage-tricks alone. They DO use visual doubles during the first descent into the lair because there's no way ANYONE could move that fast backstage, the bit up on Apollo's Lyre OWNS when it shoots him back up into the rafters etc..
I agree completely. The staging was incredible, and the visual tricks were amazing. Besides the ones you've mentioned, I also liked when Christine is onstage and just for a moment, you see things from behind her as she faces the audience. My "Whoa!" was two-fold: that it was such a cool effect, and How did they do that? But it was just a quickie and we moved on, no time to revel in it.
I'd forgotten that The Phantom really was a bad guy, way evil. Obviously they had to tone that down a bit, or it wouldn't have made for much of a love story. Choosing between the mentor who was helped you score the Number One Hit you've always wanted and the handsome guy you've known since grade school is a more interesting choice than choosing between the evil disfigured guy who kidnapped you and the long lost love interest.
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Jane Eyre! Now there's a book which is ALSO a musical, so it's not an entirely off-topic post.
Jane Eyre is one of the greatest books ever written.
It's an epic romance. Literally.
I was not aware it had a musical made out of it. I'm... a little uncomfortable with that. Not sure how I feel.
Heathcliff is a doucebag, and Wuthering Heights is one of the most un-romantic books ever.
The Phantom is easy to forget as a bad guy, because you want him to be good. Yeah, I guess.
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Fantastic book, but I'm worried it'd be a boring ass musical. Except for Bertha. She's crazy enough to be interesting.
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Well, we did it. We went and saw Cats last night. The show's what, 20 years old now or something? But better late than never.
I can see why it drives some people crazy, but come on, it was a good show. The music was great, the dancing was great, the costumes were great. Nothing like 20 or so people running around singing in four, five, or six part harmony, dancing the whole time dressed up like cats.
I haven't seen a whole lot of Broadway musicals (two now) but if I had to guess, I'd say there was more dancing than most musicals, because of the whole thing with them all being cats. A lot of extended dance sequences with cats all over the place. The "orchestra" was two keyboardists, guitar, bass, and drums, so all the brass, winds, and strings were synthetic, but it sounded great and those guys could cook.
A good time was had by all.
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I feel that Jesus Christ Superstar is the best telling of the whole "Passion" story, because it manages to treat Jesus as a "normal" man who let things get insanely out of control, while not ruling out the potential of divinity. I also like how it portrays Judas as a sympathetic character. All in all, it's the most human portrayal of the entire story, which I think is the best way to go about it (speaking as an agnostic who attended a Catholic school for 9 years.)
Thoughts on this musical?
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All I know is that I had this friend who was in college a few years back, and there was this Portuguese exchange student who would go around the school singing "JESUS CHRIST! SUPERSTAR!" in his absurdly heavy accent.
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Cats really is more visually appealing that the songs themselves, even though the songs are fine, yay, whatever. But where it excels is in the costuming and dancing. And the set-design, I think.
Anyone else into Gilbert and Sullivan?
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Oh of course...
When your school does Annie it's good
But when anyone else does it?
I see how it is
In my defense, I only ever saw the movie plus our version. Plus, our Annie was played by a cynical eighteen-year-old, which makes it awesome.
I'd really like to see Victor/Victoria... Also Phantom of the opera.
I love how "La Vie Boheme" in Rent can be used to annoy uptight people. :)
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I feel that Jesus Christ Superstar is the best telling of the whole "Passion" story, because it manages to treat Jesus as a "normal" man who let things get insanely out of control, while not ruling out the potential of divinity. I also like how it portrays Judas as a sympathetic character. All in all, it's the most human portrayal of the entire story, which I think is the best way to go about it (speaking as an agnostic who attended a Catholic school for 9 years.)
Thoughts on this musical?
I agree totally on the portrayals of Judas and Jesus as making this movie work. Judas did what he thought was right, given the situation, and didn't realize what it really meant when he sold out Jesus. Jesus himself isn't sure about the whole thing. It can't possibly be easy being His son, and be told that this is what's in store for you, and it's all in The Plan, so just deal with it.
I've seen a couple of productions of it, both pretty good, neither one super great, but not a waste of time either. The local community college did it once, and a friend of mine was Judas and he was great. For Jesus, they were very excited to get this local guy who's operatically trained, which was just plain wrong for the part. During "Gesthename", when Jesus was wailing, instead of a great raw, rocking voice, it was this awesome sweet opera tenor. Great voice, totally wrong for the part. He'd sing most of the time in a pretty rocking voice, but whenever it was time to really wail, the opera tenor would come out and wreck the mood. I know I wasn't the only one who felt that way.
The other production was a touring company I'd never heard of ("Mammoth Productions") and it was the day after I'd gotten all four wisdom teeth pulled. It was nice to have something take my mind off the pain for two hours. This was back in the 70's, and was the first time I'd seen a "real" stage show with wireless microphones and rock instruments in the pit orchestra, so it was pretty cool.
Back to JCS itself. I always thought Judas got a bum rap. If Jesus was always meant to die, and Judas was destined to be the one to bust on him, why is he so villified? He was just doing his part. He was doing what he was meant to do, and without him the whole redemption thing would not have gone down. So give the guy a break.
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I grew up with the London cast of Phantom of the Opera on cassettes and had it memorized completely by about age six. my friend and I proceeded to put on the show with her old jazz and tap costumes almost every weekend for about five years.
Thus, my taste in musicals has been forever skewed and/or ruined. Since Webber is ridiculous and over the top with everything he does.
I pretty much like anything with song and dance numbers, though. I'm a pushover.
I want spontaneous choreography and songs to be an evolutionary trait.
Oh yeah, Gilbert and Sullivan are pretty much my favorites, as an adult. Hilarious and smart and brilliant musically. Doesn't get better than that.
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A really delightful musical is Bat Boy, partially based on the Weekly World News character. It is pretty hilarious, and contains some good music. The most appealing thing about it is how different it is from everyday musical crap.
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i've always been partial to ,,The Phantom of the Opera" myself. anyone else a fan?
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I want spontaneous choreography and songs to be an evolutionary trait.
So do I. (http://improveverywhere.com/2008/03/09/food-court-musical/)
Like, a lot.
So much so, that my friends and I come up with song and dance numbers that we will (one day) perform, when someone accidentally gives us cue.
You know, like "Hey, what was the homework?"
THEN WE DANCE AND SING.
it doesn't work usually.
Funny Face is a great musical. Audrey Hepburn and Fred Astaire. Though, Astaire's not allowed to kiss anyone but Ginger Rogers in my mind. ;/
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i've always been partial to ,,The Phantom of the Opera" myself. anyone else a fan?
Good morning, it appears you were sleeping through a whole page.
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I want spontaneous choreography and songs to be an evolutionary trait.
So do I. (http://improveverywhere.com/2008/03/09/food-court-musical/)
Like, a lot.
So much so, that my friends and I come up with song and dance numbers that we will (one day) perform, when someone accidentally gives us cue.
You know, like "Hey, what was the homework?"
THEN WE DANCE AND SING.
it doesn't work usually.
Like so and indeed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SwhzFsuvQc)
Cupcake, ditto on the Phantom-by-heart-at-age-six thing. I clearly recall my best friend and me putting on old floor-length evening gowns from 1976 (TOTALLY BALLGOWNS, OKAY?) and a 20-foot bolt of fake black satin for a Phantom cape and jumping on the coffee table and singing along.
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SO AMAZING. I wish I had been there.
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That is...the most amazing thing I have ever seen. Both of those. Dear god.
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I may of over looked it, but has anyone mentioned Moulin Rouge? I know some may hate for the sheer audacity it has for being popular, but I love it! The music is great, extremely clever to use modern music placed in a historical atmosphere, along with the original score, and the choreography, I've always loved that movie.
And then there's Cats, I love this one too, I didn't see the play, but it was one of the first DVDs my family owned and I would love dancing and singing to it. I love background stories, which is basically what this whole musical is about, telling the stories of the Jellicle cats.
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The only Lloyd-Webber I can stand from beginning to the bitter end is The Phantom though I agree that the book is much better. I can listen to Cats at least part-wise without getting a wet rash but I just can't stand the rest.
My little guilty Musical pleasure is The Mikado. Ever since I helped with an essay on Gilbert&Sullivan I find myself whistling the songs. Sometimes they are accompanied by their friends from the HMS Pinafore...
Btw: one of the best (or maybe funniest) ways to pick up HMS Pinafore is listening to Picard and Data singing A British Tar in Star Trek: Insurrection
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I watched "Across the Universe" last night, and damn it was awesome. Love story + beatles + remembering the "electric Kool-aid acid test" = win.
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There has been no mention of South Pacific in this thread which must be rectified immediately
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A GIRLY, WOMANLY, FEMALE, FEMININE DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME
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I recently saw a middle school production of Guys and Dolls. The show wasn't that good but I realized that I appreciate Guys and Dolls more than I thought I did.
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There has been no mention of South Pacific in this thread which must be rectified immediately
For my third grade talent show act, I sang "Honey Bun."
And I still know it.
A hundred and one, pounds of fun...
;]
S.P. was my first musical. iloveitsomuch.
It has one of the best soundtracks ever.
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Our school does a musical production every single year in a program called "Mainstage." 4 years ago they did Grease.....and now they're doing it again this year. I've gone in to see their rehearsals and they're......possibly the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. The girl who plays Sandy keeps telling me "hey, I'm playing Sandy in Grease, it's the LEAD part" and complains about how people don't work. Euuugh, High School musical productions are one of the most unbearable parts of highschool.
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I saw a production of Fiddler on the Roof that just about made me keel over with the awesomeness.
On that note: Avenue Jew (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpa61yYEJ_8).
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There are three very important musicals that have been drastically underrated here:
1 - GODSPELL
2 - WEST SIDE STORY
3 - SPRING AWAKENING (its new, and won approx 2083402834 tonys)
i'm waiting for an M.I.A. inspired musical. i think it would be the greatest thing ever. hah.
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The Scarlet Pimpernel musical annoys me because it's like the last stage in modern adaptations which have felt the need to further romanticize Margot's relationship with Chauvelin. It began with the '82 adaptation which saw a younger-than-in-the-book Chauvelin as Marguerite's spurned suitor, and then in the 1999 version placed them as formerly-happy-together lovers who then separated bitterly, and then in the musical it's like she still harbours feelings for him, of a sort. I'd love to see someone like Anthony Hopkins play the character and just twist Marguerite mentally without having to have any sexual tension--rather the influence of a charismatic political psychopath.
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Tommy, though a rock opera, is also rather awesome. Elton John in giant platforms make it worth watching, and then there's so much more.
Also, Wizard of Oz. Possibly the musical with the creepiest production history ever. From the Dark Side of the Moon soundtracking it, to Judy Garland.
Just... Judy Garland. Who scares the bejeezes out of me.
West Side Story is far more awesome than Romeo and Juliet because she doesn't die.
She gets mad. ;]
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2 - WEST SIDE STORY
Somebody made a thread right after this thread was created talking about how musicals sucked. In that thread we talked about the awesomeness of West Side Story.
Basically, no, it has not been underrated. It has been done justice.
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(and some snobby douchebag beatles worshipper was standing right outside complaining about how they ruined the songs)
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I think everyone who went had one of those sitting next to them attempting to ruin the film.
Also. I lurked. A lot. But...
Has anyone else mentioned
"the producers?"
I enjoyed all the versions of it (play, movie, newer play, newer movie (good, minus the ferrell)).
Who loves it? Who hates it?
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I watched "Across the Universe" last night, and damn it was awesome. Love story + beatles + remembering the "electric Kool-aid acid test" = win.
We came out of the cinema grinning so hard after Across The Universe. it was great.
(and some snobby douchebag beatles worshipper was standing right outside complaining about how they ruined the songs)
Dude, that's cause Bono ruins everything. He sings I Am The Walrus if i'm not mistaken. The dude is....eugh, I dont' like U2, and I don't like him personally either. I saw him a movie that was a tribute concert to Leonard Cohen, I'm Your Man or something along those lines. And he ended up speaking for 3-4 minutes and sounded like the biggest douche ever.
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I don't post often... (or at all!)
But on the topic of musicals... Jeff Wayne's the War of the Worlds. Some of the songs in it are amazing. It's also the only decent adaptation of that story that's kept true to the source, sadly enough.
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There are three very important musicals that have been drastically underrated here:
1 - GODSPELL
I freaking hate this musical.
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So I'm re-watching The Sound of Music for about the first time in a million years.
I think I've just fallen in love all over again.
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Fiddler on the Roof.
Enough said, eh?
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Jane Eyre! Now there's a book which is ALSO a musical, so it's not an entirely off-topic post.
Jane Eyre is one of the greatest books ever written.
It's an epic romance. Literally.
Have y'all read Jean Rhys' Wide Sargasso Sea? It's about the first Mrs. Rochester, and it's written by someone who did grow up crazy in the British West Indies. Or Sunshine Islands or something quite close by, at least.
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I like musicals. Hair and Fiddler on the Roof are probably my two favorites. Wicked was OK but not earth shattering great like a lot of people seem to think...
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I blame my two daughters for this but
"Good morning Baltimore"
oh and
"You are the music in me"
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I'm really, really surprised that only two people have mentioned Spring Awakening.
A musical wins 8 tonys and doesn't get any credit? I have to say it's my favorite musical ever, and rumor has it that Johnny Gallagher Jr is up for a role in Hair in the revival. I'm pretty sure that my opinion on best musical will change when Jim Sturgess gets out there as Spiderman in Julie Taymor's new musical.