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Title: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: Caspian on 08 Mar 2008, 05:21
Don't know if anyone else has this game, or has even heard of it, but I've been playing it again recently (on an emulator) and damn, it's so freaking awesome. For those who aren't aware of this game (and it's not-quite-as-good-but-still-awesome prequel) then it's basically a pretty huge RPG that was on the GBA. Huge, HUGE puzzles, lots of epic trekking, a pretty sweet plot involving the 4 elemental lighthouses and a seal that was placed on alchemy, quite sweet battle animation and graphics for the GBA, not much in the way of character development maybe, but you still got really attached to them- the ending, where they're all finally rendered in some slightly better animation was EXCELLENT. I guess I'd also add that Starcraft, Fallout 2, Red Alert 2 and UT are also just as good, but yeah, Golden Sun 2 is an absolute monster of a game- the reason why I failed my final exams in year 12, but I seriously don't regret it.

Does anyone disagree/agree? I'm personally hoping that someone here will share my love/unhealthy obsession of this game, so that we can get all nerdy about it.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: ledhendrix on 08 Mar 2008, 06:18
I only ever played the first Golden Sun bit it was my favorite GBA game and i completed it several times. My friend had it as well but he got Golden Sun 2 and he would always rant and rave about it, but i am a stingey bastard and i never bought it.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: Sox on 08 Mar 2008, 06:38
But you friend never let you borrow the game?
I let a friend borrow my copy. Somebody was invited to his house one day and they stole his gameboy, with my game inside it. And promptly sold it.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: Scarychips on 08 Mar 2008, 07:20
I should try it, but I'm too busy playing Kirby & the Amazing Mirror right now.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: ledhendrix on 08 Mar 2008, 11:43
He told me i could borrow it, i just never got round to it.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: Storm Rider on 08 Mar 2008, 11:49
Both of the Golden Sun games were great. If you believe the rumors, Nintendo might be reviving the series on the DS soon.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: GlassHousesInc on 08 Mar 2008, 13:40
That would be sweet. GS2 knocked my socks off. Its one of the few RPGs on GBA I still enjoy replaying entirely from time to time. Hopefully they'll do something interesting with the touch screen though, beyond the menus always on display, like Pokemon Diamond/Pearl.

Best game ever, IMO? Nah. Possibly the best game I played for GBA, though.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: Melodic on 08 Mar 2008, 16:13
This thread makes me hate my selling all of my GBA games a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. Oh well, Advance Wars DS 2!
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: AngelofShadows on 08 Mar 2008, 17:44
I completely forgot about Golden Sun.

Damn good game. Damn good series. Nintendo needs to add that to the list of games it likes making money on and make it. (here's to rumors being true)

I wish Squeenix would do that too.....I want another damned Chrono Game.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: RedLion on 08 Mar 2008, 19:48
No. Simple enough.

Although..
.I want another damned Chrono Game.

Completely agreed. Trigger and Cross are two of the best RPGs ever made--actually, two of the best games ever made period. And I actually much prefer Cross over Trigger.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: Storm Rider on 08 Mar 2008, 20:00
Chrono Cross was an incredible disappointment in comparison with the original game, sorry.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: Caspian on 08 Mar 2008, 22:05
Both of the Golden Sun games were great. If you believe the rumors, Nintendo might be reviving the series on the DS soon.

Unfortunately, similiar rumours have been around for a long, long time. Having said, despite having no money I would buy a DS instantly if GS3 came out on it.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: Ozymandias on 09 Mar 2008, 01:57
I still haven't gotten around to beating Chrono Cross. I bought it launch day.

Most annoying magic system ever? Yes. Yes it is.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: Narr on 09 Mar 2008, 14:36
Ditto.  I didn't dislike the game so much as it was just extremely slow-paced.  I stopped liking Squaresoft when the PSX age hit because their games just all drag ass.  They haven't gotten much better, either.  I don't like waiting 15 seconds for a fucking attack command, and that's just because the game takes 10 seconds to process the animation.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: RedLion on 09 Mar 2008, 21:31
I found it to be one of the most fast-paced traditional RPGs there are. It doesn't take "10 seconds to process the animation." If you do nothing but 3rd-level attacks even, it's about 5 seconds for the whole string, tops. The Element system is brilliant--you can't just sit there and spam spells that do ridiculous amounts of damage.

And, people expected Cross to be a direct sequel to Trigger. It wasn't. It was, for most intents and purposes, a standalone game. Taken as such, it's an outstanding, brilliant, mind-blowing game, with a story far superior to the average movie or novel, and certainly to any Final Fantasy.

Trigger...it was an excellent game, but it did nothing new whatsoever, aside from the time-travelling thing.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: pentaen on 09 Mar 2008, 21:36
no.


Fallout 2

Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: KvP on 09 Mar 2008, 21:50
yeah, but, I don't think you're supposed to say that in this thread. It ain't the type of game they're talking about.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: Ozymandias on 09 Mar 2008, 22:01
And, people expected Cross to be a direct sequel to Trigger. It wasn't. It was, for most intents and purposes, a standalone game. Taken as such, it's an outstanding, brilliant, mind-blowing game, with a story far superior to the average movie or novel, and certainly to any Final Fantasy.

No, taken as a stand-alone game it's still a mediocre game with a convoluted plot that makes no sense.

Taken as a sequel to Chrono Trigger, it's a massive disappointment with a plot that's tangentially related.

It fails on all counts.

(Also fight you SO HARD for saying it's better than Final Fantasy 6)
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: dlaiyre on 09 Mar 2008, 22:45
Chrono Cross was an incredible disappointment in comparison with the original game, sorry.

This.

Oh yeah, FIRST POST EVER.

Been lurking here for a couple of months though...
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: HarperLufro on 09 Mar 2008, 23:20
And, people expected Cross to be a direct sequel to Trigger. It wasn't. It was, for most intents and purposes, a standalone game. Taken as such, it's an outstanding, brilliant, mind-blowing game, with a story far superior to the average movie or novel, and certainly to any Final Fantasy.

No, taken as a stand-alone game it's still a mediocre game with a convoluted plot that makes no sense.

Taken as a sequel to Chrono Trigger, it's a massive disappointment with a plot that's tangentially related.

It fails on all counts.

(Also fight you SO HARD for saying it's better than Final Fantasy 6)

At least Chrono Cross had a pretty awesome group of characters.

I mean, what other game has a rabbit-girl with a huge pair of gloves, an undead clown skeleton, a sentient turnip, and a strange dimensional-rift-dweller
as playable characters?

(And I agree. Final Fantasy VI trumps all.)
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: Melodic on 10 Mar 2008, 00:51
Chrono Cross was an incredible disappointment in comparison with the original game, sorry.

This.

Oh yeah, FIRST POST EVER.

Been lurking here for a couple of months though...

Man, if this is anything like losing your virginity you are going to be hell of disappointed knowing your first post was "This".
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: est on 11 Mar 2008, 00:14
I "played" Golden Sun 2 for about 10 mins.  During this time I did not actually get to play anything other than hitting a button to continue while the characters played out some extremely cheesy teen drama bullshit.  I really couldn't reset my GBA fast enough.

Also: Caspian, do you post on OCAU?  Either way, howdy!
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: CEOVanilla on 11 Mar 2008, 01:01
I completely agree with Est.

As for Cross being better than the Final Fantasy series, I think you really need to watch your step. VII would have had an epic story if it didn't get mired into a bunch of crap about Sephiroth that made no sense at all to me. I think if it had stuck to playing around with Avalanche or whatever blowing up a corporation's power plants and just generally being eco-terrorists, it would have been great. I like games about corporations. There aren't many. Wall $treet Raider = <3
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: sean on 11 Mar 2008, 14:20
The Golden Sun series was the only RPG I've ever been able to play though. I loved it.

This was a few years ago though. I don't know if I'd enjoy it as much today.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: AnonymousNoob on 16 Mar 2008, 23:08
People who think the Golden Sun games were great should probably look into broadening their RPG horizons.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: Scruffy on 17 Mar 2008, 06:08
I really enjoyed the first Golden Sun, but I went the eBay route for the second one.  I got it way too cheap and it came from China.  Yeah, fake and non-functional, super.  Sadly I never got around to trying again on it.   
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: Storm Rider on 17 Mar 2008, 13:41
The Golden Sun games were a quite enjoyable mix of class-customization RPG and interesting puzzle design with an interesting risk/reward mechanic with regards to the Djinn. Do you leave them all on standby so you can use really powerful summons more often, or do you keep them constantly active so you get the stat boosts? Anyway, I would be quite pleased if Nintendo brought the series back, even if I don't exactly consider them the cream of the RPG crop.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: Ozymandias on 17 Mar 2008, 16:10
The Golden Sun series isn't amazing, but it's very good. The mechanics were basic, but very well thought out which is way better than trying for a complicated mechanics scheme that turns out to be crap (FF8cough).

That said, I never finished Golden Sun 2. I loved the first one but found the second insufferable somehow.
Title: Re: Golden Sun 2 was possibly the best game ever yes/no?
Post by: De_El on 17 Mar 2008, 18:35
For some reason these games had a lot of staying power for me.  I've played through both at least 3 times.  I would heap praise upon them, but I haven't played them in years, so I don't know how valid it would be. Golden Sun also had the unusual side effect of being the first game that I cared enough about to join a forum dedicated to it, hence introducing me to the ugly underbelly of the internets. Internet is a strange beast though and as it turns out it's ugly underbelly is like 96% of its surface area and body mass.