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Fun Stuff => CLIKC => Topic started by: madfast5000 on 18 Mar 2008, 20:27
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Mine is Halo 3. What's yours?
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Stupid List Thread 64. It's kind of old school, but I still dig it.
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Internet Message Boards 2: Return of the Favorite Videogames Thread.
Seriously, though, my favorite is The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind with the expansions. Diablo II is a close second.
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MY FAVORITE VIDEO GAME IS DUKE NUKEM FOREVER.
WHO SAID IT? WHO SAID CTHULHU WAS NOT FROM THE FUTURE?
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Um...I CAN HAZ WIN?
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mine would have to be Psychonauts
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Um...I CAN HAZ WIN?
FAIL.
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CoD4 or counter strike source or...
I LIKE TO BLOW SHIT UP AND SHOOT PEOPLE OVER THE INTERNETS!
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Oooh... burnout 3 and tekkens! SSX3 ooh I like that one...
Fuck, final fantasy games!
Damn I love video games.
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Right now it's either Brawl or Mario Galaxy because that's what I'm playing right now.
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Internet Message Boards 2: Return of the Favorite Videogames Thread.
Seriously, though, my favorite is The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind with the expansions. Diablo II is a close second.
I like your thinking. But for real RPG fun, Icewind Dale II, one of the last great D&D based computer games. Neverwinter Nights was good, but solo adventures are never as fun as party adventures, not as much strategy in my opinion.
World Of Warcraft now tops as m favorite, as I have found a game that shows Paladins the respect they deserve, and the hunter is great for when you really don't want to have to do much of anything but still play the game.
Super Smash Brawl is good, but as I do not own a Wii, I don't think I can legitamitly put it on this list.
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I like your thinking. But for real RPG fun, Icewind Dale II, one of the last great D&D based computer games. Neverwinter Nights was good, but solo adventures are never as fun as party adventures, not as much strategy in my opinion.
IWD 2? Really? That was the stinker of the Bioware Infinity engine games, if you ask me. The game suffered severely from budget deficit syndrome. Half the heavy armors in the game aren't even itemized so without some extreme metagaming know-how, it's very save-and-reload happy. Don't get me wrong: I love the game. I just think Baldur's Gate 2 eclipses it in a huge way.
I just started Planescape: Torment up again and I really do think it's the single greatest RPG ever made, flaws and all.
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I like your thinking. But for real RPG fun, Icewind Dale II, one of the last great D&D based computer games. Neverwinter Nights was good, but solo adventures are never as fun as party adventures, not as much strategy in my opinion.
IWD 2? Really? That was the stinker of the Bioware Infinity engine games, if you ask me. The game suffered severely from budget deficit syndrome. Half the heavy armors in the game aren't even itemized so without some extreme metagaming know-how, it's very save-and-reload happy. Don't get me wrong: I love the game. I just think Baldur's Gate 2 eclipses it in a huge way.
I just started Planescape: Torment up again and I really do think it's the single greatest RPG ever made, flaws and all.
Okay, Baldur's Gate does win on many a level, but it had it's issues, such as not having personally customizable characters, which ID 2 had. I never noticed that about the armor, but honestly I never relied heavily on my armor too much, and the strategizing you can do made it so that it wasn't such a big issue. Also, you had to play the hard mode to get some of the better stuff, which likely included what you mentioned. I never played the advanced mode because, well, it required you make your characters a certain way with certain classes, and I wasn't crazy about that. But it's storyline was solid, the music was nice, the game didn't give you shitty rolls like crazy, original BG did that to me a lot, and it pissed me off. I also think they visuals could have been somewhat better, but they weren't bad considering how old the game was.
As for Planescape, I have wanted to play it but lack a computer capable of playing it(well, did lack a computer that could, the new one might be able to) but with playing WOW and real D&D games, I never have time to pick it up.
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Fallout, or BG, or NWN (the multiplayer, not the terrible singleplayer).
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CoD4... or HL2 (with episodes, of course)... or Final Fantasy Tactics: Advanced, or EQ2, or Fire emblem (don't know which one, first one to come out in the U.S., with Hector, Eliwood, and Lyn). Yeah, I like too many video games to narrow it down.
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Fallout, Diablo 2, Starcraft, Day of Defeat, World of Warcraft, and Finally Team Fortress 2
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Okay, Baldur's Gate does win on many a level, but it had it's issues, such as not having personally customizable characters, which ID 2 had. I never noticed that about the armor, but honestly I never relied heavily on my armor too much, and the strategizing you can do made it so that it wasn't such a big issue. Also, you had to play the hard mode to get some of the better stuff, which likely included what you mentioned. I never played the advanced mode because, well, it required you make your characters a certain way with certain classes, and I wasn't crazy about that. But it's storyline was solid, the music was nice, the game didn't give you shitty rolls like crazy, original BG did that to me a lot, and it pissed me off. I also think they visuals could have been somewhat better, but they weren't bad considering how old the game was.
As for Planescape, I have wanted to play it but lack a computer capable of playing it(well, did lack a computer that could, the new one might be able to) but with playing WOW and real D&D games, I never have time to pick it up.
Well, yeah, IWD2 did have more of the strategy aspect down, but as I said, it's too flakey in terms of end-game. You said it yourself. Unless you made some very uber-specific party, it's not beatable. Also, even on Heart of Winter, there's still little to no itemization of heavy armors. It makes fighters and paladins useless compared to Barbarians. Also, the spell itemization was pretty spotty at times, so sorcerers were a billion times better than mages.
And really, what does personal character customization mean if non of your characters display a personality? Half the fun of Baldur's Gate 2 were the NPCs.
I'm thinking a remake of Icewind Dale 2 inside the NWN2 engine would be pretty awesome. Anyone else agree?
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I'm thinking a remake of Icewind Dale 2 inside the NWN2 engine would be pretty awesome. Anyone else agree?
It'd need professional work. One of the advantages of the Infinity Engine was the stunning pre-rendered environments and art direction. You'd be hard-pressed to replicate something like the Dragon's Eye in the NWN2 toolset.
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You'd probably be better off using the Witcher toolset when it gets released, as the NWN2 one isn't too good.
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I just started Planescape: Torment up again and I really do think it's the single greatest RPG ever made, flaws and all.
Me, too! Torment's just awesome.
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Man I need to play Planescape.
Morrowind will always have special place in my heart. As will Jedi Knight and Tie Fighter (or Freespace II, which is pretty much the definitive arcadey space combat sim).
-Wilhelm
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Grim Fandango: I never had time to finish that game, but it deserves some recognition. (even if it got really hard at some points)
Mount & Blade: The demo was great ...
On a side note, my local game store (at the time) was giving away copies of PS:T with Vampire. I snagged two copies & lent one out to people. :)
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Okay, let me get this straight. Your two favorite games are a game you never finished...and a demo?
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Strangely ... yeah. Grim actually lasted for awhile compared to most other games & I enjoyed the story. Do I need to have finished it to say it had an excellent story? (eventually I'll find my saves again & leave the cat racing stadium) M&B just had some great combat. The arena I played in was a lot of fun (whether riding around lancing archers, trying to unseat a knight and take his horse or running from the aforementioned) and I daresay I'll get the full game when I have my own comp again.
I'd say Fallout, PS:T, Half-life & some others ... but I reckon enough people already know about them & agree.
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Metal arms: Glitch in the System had an excellent storyline and gameplay. It didn't sell well strangely.
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You'd probably be better off using the Witcher toolset when it gets released, as the NWN2 one isn't too good.
I'm sure a D&D game will go over great in the Witcher engine.
No wait, no it won't. Not at all.
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It'd need professional work. One of the advantages of the Infinity Engine was the stunning pre-rendered environments and art direction. You'd be hard-pressed to replicate something like the Dragon's Eye in the NWN2 toolset.
Yeah, I agree with you there. The excellent backdrops for the IWD games were one of the reasons it didn't get dull wading through hoards of monsters.
I'm thinking purely from a gameplay standpoint, however. Compared to Baldur's Gate (which is being remade by some guys in the NWN2 engine), it'd be pretty straightforward. What you'd have to make up in modeling, you'd save in coding complicated dialogue encounters and triggers. You sort of just charge ahead and kill shit.
Also, I wasn't particularly impressed with The Witcher. I had a chance to play it and fell asleep before I beat the first castle place because the combat is easymode. Don't tell me it gets more difficult later on because it doesn't matter. A game of that length that's combat doesn't grab me right away tends to never get played because I just don't give a fuck about timing clicking A SINGLE BUTTON for 80 hours.
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I still find it hard to believe that it's supposed to be 80 hours. I didn't finish it, granted, but I finished the first two of five chapters in about 15 hours. Looking at the walkthroughs, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of quests for the other three...whatever.
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You'd probably be better off using the Witcher toolset when it gets released, as the NWN2 one isn't too good.
I'm sure a D&D game will go over great in the Witcher engine.
No wait, no it won't. Not at all.
Two things.
1. NWN2 didn't actually use D&D either, just a fucked up version of it.
2. The Witcher engine is the Aurora engine - which NWN1 was made in, which is the only real D&D game out of the three. So I'm guessing D&D does go down pretty well in the Aurora engine.
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Oh yeah, Aurora. NWN1. One could never ask for a better rendering of D&D mechanics.
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What was better about D&D mechanics for NWN1 than 2? I was unaware of such a thing.
They took out spells that were relatively overpowered for PVP but I was pretty sure most everything else was in better shape?
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nothing. I was being sarcastic :p
As far as computer games go, the closest we've ever gotten to PnP was probably Temple of Elemental Evil. Which was a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad game. But the turn-based combat was scarily authentic.
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Actually, my mistake. I'm thinking of a different game that wasn't actually D&D.
Also, don't hate on ToEE. Patched up, it was a pretty damn fun dungeon crawl.
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Do You Like Horny Bunnies?
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nothing. I was being sarcastic :p
As far as computer games go, the closest we've ever gotten to PnP was probably Temple of Elemental Evil. Which was a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad game. But the turn-based combat was scarily authentic.
Not you.
Spluff.
He's the one that said NWN 1 was closer to real D&D than NWN2. I'm confused as to how. NWN1 = 3.0, NWN2 = 3.5, both captured both rather well.
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The biggest complaint I hear about the CRPG conversion of D&D in those two games, beyond the trimming away of most spells without direct combat applications, is the mishandling of clerics, specifically the screwing up of domains. The NWN engines are set up in such a way that "special spell lists" are impossible to implement, so instead of a separate level-by-level spell lists, clerics with domains receive bonus spells in their existing spell lists. The result is that there are only a small number of given domains that actually make sense to take. This problem with the engine also prevents PrCs like Blackguards and Assassins from being able to cast spells, and instead they have "spell-like abilities", which nobody really likes.
Interestingly, the only game to implement clerics correctly according to 3rd ed. was Icewind Dale 2.
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How could I forget Deus Ex and Half Life? Sure, they're obvious, but still. Holy goddamn.
Also, Duke Nukem. Not 3D. The original DOS sidescroller with Dr. Proton and shit. The first computer game I ever really played, probably.
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The biggest complaint I hear about the CRPG conversion of D&D in those two games, beyond the trimming away of most spells without direct combat applications, is the mishandling of clerics, specifically the screwing up of domains. The NWN engines are set up in such a way that "special spell lists" are impossible to implement, so instead of a separate level-by-level spell lists, clerics with domains receive bonus spells in their existing spell lists. The result is that there are only a small number of given domains that actually make sense to take. This problem with the engine also prevents PrCs like Blackguards and Assassins from being able to cast spells, and instead they have "spell-like abilities", which nobody really likes.
Interestingly, the only game to implement clerics correctly according to 3rd ed. was Icewind Dale 2.
True enough. I didn't take that into consideration.
Granted, clerics and druids are all sorts of ridiculously overpowered in both NWN games so I guess we can't complain too badly.
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I totally forgot to mention my fav old school game, Full Throttle, wasn't very popular but awesome none the less
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The first game that came to mind was Starcraft. When this came out I spent more hours playing it than I have ever allotted any other game.
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Fallout, Baldur's Gate 2 and Civilization all came to mind almost immediately.
I swear the number of games that I want to write down for these lists gets bigger with every iteration.
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I enjoy Final Fantasy VI, Frequency, Rez, Guilty Gear XX (all iterations except the original) and Illusion of Gaia.
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Colonization
The Wing Commander series - the first one in particular
Contra
Zelda - Twilight Princess (most other zelda's too)
Starcraft
Rome Total War
but my favorite is still Civ 2 and the rest of the civ series
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For me it's all about FFVI.
Moving to more recent times though, Monster Hunter Freedom 2, the Metal Slug Anthology and Rainbow 6: Vegas 2 are eating up time.
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Hmmmm, toughie, I can't pick just one, I guess I'll go by consoles:
SNES (I'm going to just bunch up all the old Nintendo games into one console):
Legend of Zelda
Jaws
Sega Genesis:
Sonic 1 and 2
N64:
Diddy Kong Racing
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Goldeneye (I loved playing PvP in DK mode)
PSOne:
Spyro: Year of the Dragon
Twisted metal 3
PS2 (one of my favorite consoles of all time):
Guitar Hero II
SSx Tricky
and Bully was pretty tight, I love finding the guys I could make out with
Twisted Metal: Black
XBOX:
HALO
Fusion Frenzy
PS3:
I'm addicted to Guitar Hero III
XBox 360:
Guitar Hero III (^_^)
Of course these are just the video games... computer games are another list entirely.
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Way too hard to call one game, but tops are:
MegaMan Legends 2
MegaMan X
WindWaker
Resident Evil 4
Super Mario World
Donkey Kong Country 2
Metroid Prime
Smash Bros (whole series, but Brawl seems to be champ)
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1. Chrono Trigger
2. FF4
3. FF6
4. Portal
5. Silent Hill
6. Silent Hill 2
7: SSB:Brawl
8: Dead Rising (will be replaced by Left 4 Dead)
9: The Entire Zelda Catelogue (Minus Link's adventure)
10: UT2k4, with the RPG modifier on. Exp. points for killing that carry on from game to game is just massive win.
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Favorites:
Chrono Trigger - of all time
Oblivion - for right now
Counter-Strike - most consistantly fun
Honorable mention:
Starcraft
Portal
Fallout 1&2
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PC: Morrowind (What used to take a monster of a computer to run can now be handled by any floor model at Best Buy)
Laptop: Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 (Takes up little space, any computer can run it, and is still fun after all these years)
Dreamcast: Grandia 2 (Best RPG battle system ever)
PS1: Tie between Tenchu and Kaegero Deception 2 (Kagero would have won but shitty controls and bad graphics can ruin even the best of games)
Game Cube: WWE Day of Reckoning (Best character creation ever)
X-Box: KOTOR 1 & 2 (Sorry Morrowind but you already won the computer division)
PS3: Have they come out with any games for that yet.
Wii: Mario Strikers, but only until Force Unleashed comes out. (Hooray for multiplayer lightsaber battles)
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Snes: Earthbound ( Best RPG ever)
Sega Genesis: Every game is great.. ?
N64: both Zelda's
PS1: all Spyro games
PS2: We <3 Katamari ( Katamari Damacy is my second favorite)
Gamecube: Eternal Darkness
Xbox 360: Beautiful Katamari, XBLA: Jelly Car (not really out yet but this is so fun)
PSP: Loco Roco( only because Me & My Katamari's controls are horrible.)
PC: all Doom games.
I'd say portal but the orange box as a whole isn't great
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I'd have to say Ocarina of Time, it was my first game and it was well made and told. Right now however I'm engrossed in CoD:4
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PS 1: FFVII
PC: Sacrifice (One of the most epic games ever to have been created).