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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: JReynolds on 16 Apr 2008, 09:13
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Here's a chance to do some wild speculation about Faye and Angus, now that Angus is in the picture again. Here are the possibilities as I see them.
1. Faye will continue to give Angus the brush-off (with various degrees of politeness). Reasons:
a) She's still not interested in him
b) He's stalking her. Not aggressively, I'll grant, but still...
2. Faye will accept a date with Angus next time he asks. Reasons:
a) He has shown continued interest in her (pretty similar to reason 1b above-- it's just a matter of how you look at things)
b) Now that the cobwebs are cleared out, she is willing to come out of her shell more.
It's possible that we might get an answer to some of these questions before the end of April, since Angus is right there. I'm leaning towards scenario 2 myself, but who can say what the mighty Jeph will do?
Any other thoughts?
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meh I don't think Faye and Angus will get together, also I kind of don't want them to. I think Faye is usually at her best in the comic when she's not with someone. I used to want Faye and Sven to hook up but now I kind of don't. I just think hooking Faye up with someone would ruin her character's personality a bit.
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I dont see this happening, for the reasons above. Couldnt have put it better myself
But i could see Angus being a bigger character, and having a sister that screws up some of the Males in the comic...
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I bet Angus is the sister. "He" is an abnormally hairy lesbian who was hitting on Faye.
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I wouldn't mind seeing some more Sven/Faye action...but not Angus. If he says in I'd much rather just see Faye continue to brush him off. At least get some more character development before anything happens.
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what about angus/penelope?
my first thought was raven, but shes with her hobo
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No hookup required. Faye has already given Angus pleasure:
Angus - "To think... to think I'd gone all this time without experiencing such ectasy."
Faye - "Y-you're kidding, right?"
Now this could be looked at several ways:
1. Angus is kidding
2. Faye has discovered her inner ability to somehow please men now that she has loosened up
3. Angus is a sorry little man with little life experience
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I'd say option 3. seriously if a cup of coffee is "the best ecstasy I've had in years" than I feel very sorry for the dude.
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Angus seems to have appeared in the comic just to be a pathetic loser, if he got together with Faye his reason for existing would disappear. I guess Jeph might do it but it would be a severe mistake, and I find it difficult picturing Faye being involved in someone so weak willed. In my opinion the best Angus can hope for is a slight toning down of Faye's contempt, although now I've said something doubtless the complete opposite will happen.
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Now this could be looked at several ways:
1. Angus is kidding
2. Faye has discovered her inner ability to somehow please men now that she has loosened up
3. Angus is a sorry little man with little life experience
4. He does like the coffee and is using a bit of hyperbole.
Why does everyone hate Angus so much? He's not a jerk - he's never been mean to any of the characters. So what if he enjoys being given a hard time by Faye? Isn't that why ALL the other customers come to that coffee shop?
What is it that makes him a loser? The fact that he doesn't drink coffee and that he has just discovered a love for mocha, or the fact that he has some sort of attachment to Faye? He hasn't asked her out again since she originally rejected him, he just comes in for his daily coffee and abuse.
I actually like Angus, because it seems like he has very thick skin and he's almost always cheerful. If anything he's a more self-aware and assertive version of Marten, who revels in the abuse rather than just taking it passively. He might be persistent, or might be a stalker depending on your point of view, but he's very open and gentle about it, he has never in any way been threatening to anyone.
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I bet Angus is the sister. "He" is an abnormally hairy lesbian who was hitting on Faye.
Angus is probably going to hook up with Tai, in that case.
Either that or he suddenly reveals that he is Pizza girl! Then Penelope will finally be off the hook.
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No, they won't hook up. Because then they would be called "Fayngus" Or "Aaye". Both of those are moronic.
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Could it be that Raven sees Faye and Angus chatting in a little friendlier tone, and decides to take a little revenge on Faye for the Sven by hooking up with Angus, which doesn't work because, of course, Faye doesn't really care? That would be an easy way to get out of this plot line because Raven's romances don't take place "on camera." I know Raven has been looking a little smarter lately, but still...
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I think they would be a good match, but then again...we don't know that much about Angus's personality. Besides that he is named after a type of cattle. But I completely relate to his emotions in panel 6, where he tastes a mocha for the first time. For me, it was cappuccinos. Triple shot, bone dry cappuccinos. Love at first
sight taste.
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I think they would be a good match, but then again...we don't know that much about Angus's personality. Besides that he is named after a type of cattle. But I completely relate to his emotions in panel 6, where he tastes a mocha for the first time. For me, it was cappuccinos. Triple shot, bone dry cappuccinos. Love at first sight taste.
Oddly enough, extra dry cappuccinos are my specialty at work. o.O Also espresso macchiatos and undertows. I LOVE quickly layering and shooting an undertow. Party in a cup!
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I just get that creepy "trust me, I'm a nice guy" vibe from Angus. I don't know if he's ever actually said it, but I can see it happening.
(for those not aware, saying "trust me I'm a nice guy" is code for "I'm a manipulative asshole with entitlement issues but I don't understand why I can't get dates")
He might be persistent, or might be a stalker depending on your point of view, but he's very open and gentle about it, he has never in any way been threatening to anyone.
How do you non-threateningly stalk someone? Stalking = threatening. It's not a gray area.
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we don't know that much about Angus's personality. Besides that he is named after a type of cattle.
Which makes it really ironic that he's lactose intolerant.
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If Angus were dairy cattle, you might be right. Unfortunately, they're beef cattle. If he'd been named Holstein, Jersey, or Friesian, yeah...
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He's not hairy enough to be an angus, or am I confusing this with Highland cattle?
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I didn't know QC was such a hit with ranchers. I've been wanting to see Faye and Angus hook up, but I don't see it happening anytime soon; just because she slept with Sven, she's not going to go out and latch on to another guy like a lamprey.
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Angus is a Celtic name, and its meaning is "one choice". In Celtic mythology, Angus Og is a god of attractive traits such as humor and wisdom. The cows came later.
So the question is: Does Jeph know any of this, and, if he does, does he care? Does it have any bearing on the comic? Or is Jeph secretly a huge AC/DC fan, like me and the guy who named the cattle? :laugh:
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Faye and Angus can never, ever get together. Think of their couple name! Fayngus... No.
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Background:
Clan McPhee (http://www.mcpheefamilytree.com/tabs/tab1/tab11.asp)
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Faye and Angus can never, ever get together. Think of their couple name! Fayngus... No.
No, no...
"Fangus".
Of course if they had kids, they'd all grow up to be gothy Nosferatu LARPers, so this unholy union must never be!
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Augh! Couple portmanteaus! How can you wallow in such depravity?
Honestly, after what Jeph said about Faye in the 'Ask Jeph' thread, I don't think we have to concern ourselves with Faye having any long-term things. It seems likely to me that both Sven and Angus shall, like all things, pass, though perhaps not as quickly as the latte passed though Angus.
Maybe with more noise, though.
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Augh! Couple portmanteaus! How can you wallow in such depravity?
Portmapravity for the win!
Honestly, after what Jeph said about Faye in the 'Ask Jeph' thread, I don't think we have to concern ourselves with Faye having any long-term things. It seems likely to me that both Sven and Angus shall, like all things, pass, though perhaps not as quickly as the latte passed though Angus.
1) What are you referring to? Seriously.
2) You do remember that Jeph has misled us before, yes?
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This.
I wanted to know in your opinion how much logic and maturity really matters when it comes to picking a girlfriend and also where would you place Faye on the maturity scale.. (she's my fav character, sorry I dont care how offended Raven would be, Faye kicks everyone elses ass in greatnessness!) Faye is quite a closed person, but do her emotional and mental maturity come to the same level? *silently jumps up and down at the glee of her first post*
Logic has almost nothing to do with romance. Maturity matters in the long run, probably, but there are exceptions to everything.
Faye is pretty much stuck at the age she was when her dad blew his head off. She's only just now beginning to develop into an actual grownup.
What does Steve do for a living?
murders
I threw the last one in because it explains many things to me...or at least it did before you disillusioned me, bunnyThor.
But I think the Faye analysis is the truth. Of course, that's because I also think (and have posted, somewhere) that Faye is 'stuck' emotionally, or at least was until she shagged the Himbo (Sven), and/or maybe a few days before, such as in the now legendary 'Underpants Talk' with Dora.
Did I mention I'd recently developed a dislike for Sven?
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This.
Faye is pretty much stuck at the age she was when her dad blew his head off. She's only just now beginning to develop into an actual grownup.
But I think the Faye analysis is the truth. Of course, that's because I also think (and have posted, somewhere) that Faye is 'stuck' emotionally, or at least was until she shagged the Himbo (Sven), and/or maybe a few days before, such as in the now legendary 'Underpants Talk' with Dora.
Did I mention I'd recently developed a dislike for Sven?
Actually, I'd say that this gives the Sven/Faye pairing *more* possibility, not less.
I think we'd agree that Sven is not as mature as someone his age should be, given that (according to Dora) Life has not done very much to challenge or throw obstacles in Sven's path heretofore. It is, after all, these obstacles that force us to both struggle and re-examine our beliefs, both of which add to our strength and maturity. So Sven is probably a little emotionally retarded and immature.
Faye, as Jeph state above, is also emotionally retarded, but for the completely opposite reason. Life gave her a HUGE obstacle, which she has not figured out how to fully overcome, and it has stuck her where she was as a college sophomore (about 19 y.o., give or take a year).
This means, despite their ages of ~27 and ~24, respectively, both of them are stuck in that place where you are just testing out your adulthood. Faye did it by leaving home and moving to New England to start over away from coddling and smothering at home. Sven is doing it by stopping the endless romantic gameplay and starting to invest his energies toward personal growth and responsibility. So, though they have travelled very different roads, both are at the same place in their lives, which frankly is a pretty scary place. That they might find comfort and support in one another is not unreasonable.
(Contrast this with Marten, who is not seeking any real change, and slides contentedly into comfortable, unambitious domesticity with his job, his band, and his love life. These qualities made him good for Faye trying to get herself back on her feet after the fire, and made him a perfect father-confessor for her trauma, but did little to press her buttons and make her react like Sven has done.)
Neither Faye nor Sven necessarily *need* each other, but I can see how they might be very *useful* for each other.
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I think that may be the case; they have been useful to each other as catalysts. But that may be the extent of things.
If nothing else, Angus seems fertile ground for some development without all the drama. Also, if you do want a Sven/Faye pairing (no more nasty s word!), I think the fastest way to get the Himbo there may be for him to see her in a relationship with someone else. Of course, at this point, as stated, Faye needs to learn to be a Faye who's not caught in the moment of her dad's self-slaughter. Until then, really, all bets are off, and afterwards everybody better hold onto their cash with both hands because they're having earthquakes in freakin' Illinois, for the lova mike!
No, I don't know what that last bit means, either. But I may later...
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Sven/Faye? I think you mean SFayen.
mwa ha ha ha!
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SFayen?
Perhaps Whittachi?
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Whittachi is win because it sounds like a delicious thai dish. mmm. Secondly as much as I enjoy Angus for a sort of creepy comic relief I don't think I could see a relationship growing between him and Faye based on his like of being insulted. She's can't be 'on' all of the time. Would he always be waiting for her to say something witty??
Also, OMG the earthquake (tiny one) woke me up that morning...My mind was blown.
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Whittachi is win because it sounds like a delicious thai dish.
Sounds more like a tv to me.
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...or a style of martial arts? Sexy punchings!
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Dear heaven, you've run amok.
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I think Faye may turn out to be into casual sex quite a bit more now, so Angus is a possible. I seem to remember she mentioned to Doc Corrine that he was "a hot jerk" which is the same thing she said about Sven. On the other hand, the Sven thing was off the cuff and on an impulse and she doesn't spend much time round Angus so it's unlikely to develop in the same way.
Who knows?
I like highland cattle, they're very cute.
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I think we can all be confident in the idea that a LONG term relationship between Faye and Angus is not going to happen.
However, I don't see any reason why there isn't the possibility for some Faye/Angus dates or drama. I kinda like the idea of a catastrophe date between the two.
Now, it won't work, because Faye is starting to be nice, which is going to remove Angus' initial reason for liking Faye in the first place.
My whole prediction, would be Faye matching up with a big miss with Angus and having that misadventure leading to more drama with Sven. Now, this is almost a bit too predictable. So it more than likely WONT happen. Life is full of the unexpected and QC tends to follow that mold to some degree.
We will be seeing more drama between Faye and Sven. It's inevitable given that Sven's reaction to getting shot down. His usual laid back demeanor has turned quite bitter. The big question is, what will this lead to? I can see him hating Faye, or getting hung up on the idea that Faye is the woman for him maybe even BOTH! So he can try to resolve his feelings by maturing a little bit and trying to build a relationship with Faye. He can also have a breakdown and become a needy obsessive prick about it all.
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I had composed a rabid post about discussing Sven's hopes, aspirations, hair length, and fingernail habits on a thread labeled Faye and Angus. But it threatened to break the fourth wall, and Folks are a mite sensitive about that in these parts. Also, it was kind of flamish. No, not Belgian, hostile. I get that way at three a.m.
Anyway, pm me if you're actually bored enough to want to read it.
Meanwhile I refer all Svenies to my new topic, Neon Genesis Svengelion http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,19901.0.html (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,19901.0.html)
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The Canadian rock band Sloan have a fantastic song called "Iggy & Angus."
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hey im sorry i know this is a dead topic but i didnt know where else to ask this, it's not a big discussion question so it's not worth a new thread
i just want to know when was the first time Angus appeared on QC, you know, when he was known as argument guy, but what comic was his first appeareance?
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http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=710
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b) He's stalking her. Not aggressively, I'll grant, but still...
I'd ask you to back this up, but I'm sure no-one wants to have that argument again, so how about just not taking it as a given?
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That reaction from faye is totally uncharacteristic of a woman. She should have instead accused Marten of being over protective, and when marten tries to explain himself, she'd misconstrue something from the explanation and get offended by that. The night ends with Faye going home and marten feeling like a complete jerk.
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That reaction from faye is totally uncharacteristic of a woman. She should have instead accused Marten of being over protective, and when marten tries to explain himself, she'd misconstrue something from the explanation and get offended by that. The night ends with Faye going home and marten feeling like a complete jerk.
That might be a bit too much drama, though. We have enough drama going on without adding a Faye/Marten rift into the mix.
Also, I personally like how Marten is looking out for Faye.
Edit: You were just kidding, right? If so, that flew right over my head. he he
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I have resigned myself to knowing that I will never understand where Trollstormur is coming from...
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Not sure I buy in on a Faye/Angus hook-up, sloppy make-outs as a good thing. There were a lot of good arguments posted in this thread, but when I see Angus, I can't help but get that "Clingy Male" vibe coming from him. Not sure how Faye would react to that situation.
Edit: moved rest of this post to Raoul's post about Sven. Must appease people... Nurr... :-P
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I have resigned myself to knowing that I will never understand where Trollstormur is coming from...
you'd love the world I live in
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I'm also a Sven/Faye combo fan. I like their antics and their relationship and I always liked Sven's characters so I'd like to see him more often. I still think that for now he's right for her in a few ways. His confidence and immaturity pokes at her at the right places to help her overcome her issues, imo.
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Why does everyone hate Angus so much?
Every time Angus has made a new appearance he's made me more and more annoyed. I couldn't pinpoint the exact source of my annoyance for the longest time, until very recently when I realized it: He reminds me of Duckie from Pretty In Pink.
And only other Duckies and the occasional Duckette like Duckie.
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I assume this will become a love-hate relationship.
By "love-hate" I actually mean Angus will continue to love Faye and she will continue to hate him.
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Why does everyone hate Angus so much?
Every time Angus has made a new appearance he's made me more and more annoyed. I couldn't pinpoint the exact source of my annoyance for the longest time, until very recently when I realized it: He reminds me of Duckie from Pretty In Pink.
And only other Duckies and the occasional Duckette like Duckie.
I was just gonna say "Hey, I like Duckie!" but then I read that last sentence. :|
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Why does everyone hate Angus so much?
Every time Angus has made a new appearance he's made me more and more annoyed. I couldn't pinpoint the exact source of my annoyance for the longest time, until very recently when I realized it: He reminds me of Duckie from Pretty In Pink.
And only other Duckies and the occasional Duckette like Duckie.
I was just gonna say "Hey, I like Duckie!" but then I read that last sentence. :|
ouch...my pride...
I think it would be interesting to say the least but hey jeph has surprised us on more than one occasion. And Angus may hook up with hanners for all we know. :wink:
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And Angus may hook up with hanners for all we know. :wink:
Hmm. Intriguing.
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Jeph has shown a tendency not to do the obvious.
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which means that doing the obvious wouldn't be doing the obvious.
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I'm curious as to where people get the idea that Angus is 'stalking' Faye? I mean, the guy stopped going there because he had a bitchy-girlfriend. The fact he GOT a girlfriend while stalking Faye, that indicates that he perhaps wasn't really THAT into her. OR he was well-rounded enough to realise 'hey this chick doesn't like me, but this other girl I have a shot with'.
Also, in the latest one Faye assumes his trying to filter his way into her 'group'. This shows her possessive nature of her friends, he did not do this action to gain Faye's attention. A stalker on the other hand, would do this.
No one can say if she will end up with Angus (except Jeph). If anything, what she has just been threw with Sven has shown her what she does and does not want in a relationship, so that is a start. I'm holding out hope she'll stay single for a while and come to a mature closure with the Sven incident.
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Angus is being built up to be a serious contender vs. Sven so we could have a genuine love triangle going.
And yeah, I'm sure there will be a closure to the Sven/Faye issue in the near future.
The results of which are unknown to everyone but Jeph.
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hmm I can only speculate at what will happen. I have a feeling angus will be hanging out with faye a lot more causing more jealousy from Sven, mutch like this strip http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1390 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1390) and hopefully something interesting happens and not a rehash of "I'll make X look jealous by getting a girl/boy and make out in front of them." and mysteriously I think of Waynes World when him and cassandra are on the roof and Wyanes ex is with a dude trying to make him all jealous.
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The only benefit to Angus being closer would, as mentioned by others above, is that his presence makes Sven jealous and causes him to actually devote himself to a woman for once. As far as writing is concerned, I think putting Angus and Faye together would be the "Midichlorians" of this comic.
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The only benefit to Angus being closer would, as mentioned by others above, is that his presence makes Sven jealous and causes him to actually devote himself to a woman for once. As far as writing is concerned, I think putting Angus and Faye together would be the "Midichlorians" of this comic.
haha nah it wouldnt. If anything maybe Sven might start writing emo songs :wink:
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haha nah it wouldnt. If anything maybe Sven might start writing emo songs :wink:
He already write country. That's not emo enough for you?
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screamo isn't bad but it's not techno death metal
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haha nah it wouldnt. If anything maybe Sven might start writing emo songs :wink:
He already write country. That's not emo enough for you?
good point, country is depressing as it is. :wink:
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Angus would be OK.
Except he might bore Jeff and we all know what happends to characters that bore Jeff.
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Who is Jeff
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He's the author of a comic strip featuring Martin, Fay, and Hannelore.
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huh, never read it
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It might be more interesting at this point, if Faye decided she does want to pursue something with Angus, just to have Angus decide she's more trouble than she's worth. She'd be so pissed at Marten. There would be many beatings.
I like violence.
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I wondered about that too. It would be totally in character for Faye to be outraged with Marten if she lost her chance with Angus even though she said she didn't want him. Then to be outraged for telling Angus about her, even though Marten avoided blabbing about her psychological history.
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hanners moves in with marigold, if only to feed her new manga obsession. angus moves in with dora AND THEN HOOKS UP WITH FAYE. everything is awkward forever.
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I sense a love triangle, in that Faye will give into Angus' advances, and then Sven will want back in.
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I sense a love triangle, in that Faye will give into Angus' advances, and then Sven will want back in.
i would agree with you but thats too predicatble, but then again you never know. I am opting for being thrown a curve ball. Sven hooks up with someone seriously for the first time in awhile after Faye just rocked his world and angus ends up with someone else and Faye feels unwanted and jealous of both and takes it out on them through sculpting minture versions of them and their girlfriends only to smash them with pintsize's head like a caveman opening an egg with a rock. Meanwhile Marigold takes up writing (or drawing based on her background thus far) and puts together their story and sells them to make bank and hires Hanners as both her cleaning person and friend.
MWAHAHAHAAH!
then again it could just be a love triangle develops... but hey we will have to wait and see now wont we? :wink:
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Sshhh! No spoilers! You wrecked the surprise for the rest of us. At least you didn't mention the part where Coffee of Doom opens a branch on the space station and Hannerdad starts contributing recipes to the specials.
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I'm hoping for more character development for Angus, as he's still pretty two-dimensional. Right now, I don't like the idea of Faye and Angus together because of that, but my feelings could change if we see more of his personality. But let me just say that a love triangle between Faye, Angus, and Sven would disappoint me, because it feels way too predictable.
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or... sven/angus? dun-dun-dunnnnn!
(i kid, i kid.)
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or... sven/angus? dun-dun-dunnnnn!
(i kid, i kid.)
Bahaha! Please please let that be a sweaty nightmare Faye wakes up from! :-D
I tihnk if Faye and Angus did go out, she'd still be just as meh toward him as ever, which would be funny.
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yeah i kind of always figured that. if they did end up together (like jeph would opt for the most cliche of cliche plot twists) she would just be meaner to him if anything.
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That would make sense, but on the other hand she wasn't especially or frequently mean to Sven when they were having their quasi-relationship. Though he did describe her to Lydia as an "adversary with benefits". She didn't use him as a punching bag like she did with Marten.
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i think that's just because sven doesn't have a very submissive personality. if she were being a bitch, he would just call her out on it and tell her to shut the fuck up. and marten wouldn't do that, and i don't think angus would either. marten (as well as the vast majority of the qc cast) just kind of accepts that as a quirk to her personality, and angus thrives on it.
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I don't know though yesterdays comic might drive angus away for awhile. Although she did throw him across a room once and he still came back so I think he has a masochistic side to his personality.
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I don't know where I stand on this one. My first instinct is that he'd be right back, because that's how he rolls ... but that was pre-Marten chat. Now? With his current doubts about continuing to pursue her? Anything is possible.
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I wouldn't mind the love triangle at all really, those things happen. and when they do happen they're normally pretty predictable, you know? everyone can kind of see them coming but it doesn't really stop it from happening, unless someone smartens up, but we all know that never happens in relationships.
I'm excited to see what Sven will do. I like him.
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I'm torn. Sven is a cheating jerkface, but I like him. Don't get me wrong, in Faye's place I would have stabbed him in an appendage with a meat fork and never had anything to do with him again, but as they are cartoon characters and I'm not Faye, I can like him. I also like Angus. He's funny. He takes a lot of shit from Faye, but he does it because he likes it, not because he's a spineless wimp.
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i feel your pain. i for some reason have a soft spot for sven, for no reason at all because he is a super-mega-ultra-dick (especially reading back and seeing it all at once). but i guess seeing how torn up he is over it at all makes me feel almost sorry for him, and faye appears to be one of the first girls he gives half a shit about. but i do like angus more and more as i keep reading, and faye seems to like him in her way, i.e. when marten said he wanted to make sure he approved she just kind of remarked "who says i like him?" rather than "i don't like him!" (here: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1423 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1423).) and they obviously do flirt, i.e. hannelore's "you can do your weird argue-flirty thing when we get there THEY ARE BUILDING A RAMP" comment (here: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1388 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1388)). so i guess we'll have to see!