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Title: Dirty secret music
Post by: frunK on 03 May 2008, 07:06
We all have a band we like but get mocked for liking/won't admit liking. Time to come out of the crappy music closet folks.
*deep breath...stands up*
Hi, my name is frunK, I fucking love Rush.

You fuckers turns, go.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: rynne on 03 May 2008, 07:53
In before "Rush isn't crappy." (Not that I listen to 'em myself.)

I've gotten mocked for liking any number of things, but that's 'cause my friends didn't have a taste for Merzbow or Einstrüzende Neubauten or Throbbing Gristle.  I personally don't think those are crappy, though.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: imapiratearg on 03 May 2008, 07:56
About half my friends think my music sucks and I frequently get mocked for "listening to shit that no one else has heard of."  However, roughly seven miles northwest, in Montpelier, everyone else listens to what I do.  There, I get told I have awesome taste in music.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Thrillho on 03 May 2008, 09:03
I've never liked threads like this. I don't have a shred of guilt about listening to anything I listen to any more. And that includes the Communards, Justin Timberlake, Take That, Ashlee Simpson, Paramore, Eminem, blink-182, Green Day, All Saints, Barenaked Ladies, Daniel Bedingfield, Beyonce, Mel C, Mariah Carey, Coldplay, The Game, Jamelia, Alicia Keys, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Matisyahu, Kylie, and I canne be arsed to name any more. So fuck the lot of yerz!
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Jackie Blue on 03 May 2008, 09:16
Yeah, what he said.  I find the concept of the "guilty pleasure" to be inane.  I like She Wants Revenge and I could give a fuck what people think about that.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Kyros on 03 May 2008, 10:17
I tend to agree with the sentiments above that the concept of "guilty pleasures" is kind of stupid.

However, that being said there are definitely some artists that I absolutely love, but tend not to advertise that I love them around my friends.  Perfect example is The Pipettes because a lot of people just hear the first 2 seconds "Pull Shapes" and start snickering.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: a pack of wolves on 03 May 2008, 10:20
Ashlee Simpson

I wasn't too fussed about her at first, but that Outta My Head song is brilliant.

As for guilty pleasures, same as what everyone else said. I really don't see why I should feel embarrassed about liking a band.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: karl gambolputty... on 03 May 2008, 10:44
Unless you listen to Insane Clown Posse.  Closet Juggalos should be pretty ashamed of themselves.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: imapiratearg on 03 May 2008, 10:50
Barenaked Ladies

You shouldn't have a shred of guilt about listening to the Barenaked Ladies.  They are fantastic.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Jackie Blue on 03 May 2008, 10:56
The Pipettes are amazing.  Anyone who can deny that has no soul.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Lummer on 03 May 2008, 11:30
I really love Fall Out Boy's "Infinity On High" record.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: De_El on 03 May 2008, 12:11
I am still pretty fond of some Incubus albums.  Also: pre-Sing the Sorrow AFI.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: KvP on 03 May 2008, 12:20
I don't really feel embarassed about anything I listen to (even Celldweller) But there's a lot of things that people will try to shame me for listening to. I listen to Nine Inch Nails. And I enjoy it. All of it. It's all fun.

Even the remix records.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: imagist42 on 03 May 2008, 12:27
I kind of like Arctic Monkeys.

I see no valid reason why everyone hates them so much.

I also like Coldplay, The Killers, The Kooks and OK Go. Screw what anyone else says about them.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: pwhodges on 03 May 2008, 12:32
There are circles in which it would impolitic to mention that I like the organ music of Louis James Alfred Lefébure-Wély, but you may not care.

Paul
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Thrillho on 03 May 2008, 13:33
Barenaked Ladies

You shouldn't have a shred of guilt about listening to the Barenaked Ladies.  They are fantastic.

That would generally be the knub of my gist, if you read closely, mon frere.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: muffy on 03 May 2008, 13:46
The Pipettes are amazing.  Anyone who can deny that has no soul.


Truth!
I'm hitting the town with one of the boy pipettes this evening.

Though, their old drummer's new band is pretty terrible. Though, I'd never mock anyone for liking them. Not much, anyway.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Tom on 03 May 2008, 14:06
I used like Cold Play but the last album was infinitely boring and I just, lost the will to listen.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Jackie Blue on 03 May 2008, 14:18
I know tons of people (myself included) who like Einsturzende Neubauten and Throbbing Gristle but I have never in my life met someone who genuinely likes Merzbow.  I still believe that Merzbow fans only exist on the Internet.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: nufan on 03 May 2008, 15:45
I am still pretty fond of some Incubus albums.  Also: pre-Sing the Sorrow AFI.

S.C.I.E.N.C.E is one of my favourite albums, it's amazing.

Anyway, I can't think of any people I like that are considered crap (apart from ones already mentioned), but in the opposite direction I can't stand Pavement, Sonic Youth, Led Zeppelin, Bowie or any of these critically raved about cult bands.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: CamusCanDo on 03 May 2008, 17:05
I CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT ME

Death Cab for Cutie
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Siert on 03 May 2008, 17:08
I like "St Anger" by Metallica.

THIS is where I get absoloutely mauled.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: RedLion on 03 May 2008, 17:29
I"ll listen to Savage Garden on occasion. Particularly the Animal song (you know, the one that sounds like "I want to live...like..cannibals, careless and freeee...liiiike cannibals!"
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Christophe on 03 May 2008, 18:10
I thought Everclear's "Sparkle and Fade" was a good album. I still do.

I think Ozma is rad, even though it's been established that they're nothing but a good Weezer cover band.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: squawk on 03 May 2008, 18:20
Eh, I still think their stuff's better than Weezer's stuff shit now.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Christophe on 03 May 2008, 18:32
This is true.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: squawk on 03 May 2008, 18:41
Yeah I like Ozma a lot!

Also, whenever I tell people one of my favorite songs is "Time After Time" they either laugh or look at me funny and I do not understand this! "Are you serious?" Yes, why would I make a dumb joke about something like my favorite song.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: De_El on 03 May 2008, 19:15
S.C.I.E.N.C.E is one of my favourite albums, it's amazing.

Haha! I'm afraid we still disagree a bit.  S.C.I.E.N.C.E. has some pretty great songs, but I don't think it';s as strong an album as Make Yourself or A Crow Left of the Murder.  Although, I just remembered: I never listened to Light Grenades, in part because the album cover was so ugly. Was that any good?

Also what the heck, why would there be anything wrong with Throbbing Gristle or Einstürzende Neubauten.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: imapiratearg on 03 May 2008, 20:45
I kind of like Arctic Monkeys.

I see no valid reason why everyone hates them so much.

The Arctic Monkeys are pretty good, so I don't get that either.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Caspian on 03 May 2008, 21:43
I like "St Anger" by Metallica.

THIS is where I get absoloutely mauled.

Not even I like that album, but I'm a huge fanboy of everything else they've ever done and am eagerly awaiting the new album. Load >> 90% of the music discussed on this forum.

The only thing I could classify as a guilty pleasure are some of the bands/albums of my childhood. Blink 182's Enema of the State, Korn's Follow the Leader, Chubawumba's Tubthumping (which I am listening to right now). Actually it's probably only those 3 albums. Can't really say I'll ever listen to the first two, but if it comes on random play I'll get into it.

I also agree with Zerodrone about Merzbow fans existing solely on the internet.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Spluff on 03 May 2008, 21:49
Every now and again I'll give 'Around the Fur' by the Deftones a spin.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: imagist42 on 03 May 2008, 22:05
I used like Cold Play but the last album was infinitely boring and I just, lost the will to listen.

I will agree that it was boring, only a couple tracks worth listening to. The new single is slightly morepromising, though.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: MadassAlex on 03 May 2008, 22:15
Basically, I have terrible taste in music.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: McTaggart on 03 May 2008, 22:20
I think the problem wiht Merzbow fans in meatlife is that a whole lot of his work is terrible. I love his collaborations, I've quite enjoyed one or two of his albums in the past, though it's not really something that I can put on too often. On the internet I will say things like 'Sphere was a pretty great record" as a sort of a throw-away comment, but if I meet someone who knows who Merzbow is then the conversation will probably go more like this post and it won't look nearly so much like I'm actually a fan.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Kai on 03 May 2008, 22:59
I will agree--a lot of his material is very awful. But there are quite a few that are actually excellent (with 300+ records, you're bound to get a few gems). But what really appeals to me when listening to Merzbow (and other noise) is that it consistently pushes your brain to the edges, right until you almost can't take it anymore, and then... it's over. And the silence is beautiful.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: öde on 04 May 2008, 04:16
There are circles in which it would impolitic to mention that I like the organ music of Louis James Alfred Lefébure-Wély, but you may not care.

Best post in the thread.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: David_Dovey on 04 May 2008, 04:30
My guilty pleasures in meat life is the kind of stuff that everybody in here accept as excellent, and vice versa.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: minorbird on 04 May 2008, 04:39
There are times when I look at my cd collection and feel a little queezy. It's only natural that as you listen to more music, you come to the realisation you've made mistakes. Some bigger than others. Some that result in a bit of heckling from friends and foes alike.
Having said that, I'll admit I like Savage Garden and Rob Dougan.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Yoeni on 04 May 2008, 07:17
Nirvana and Snow Patrol.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Thrillho on 04 May 2008, 07:46
I like "St Anger" by Metallica.

THIS is where I get absoloutely mauled.

My key problem with that album isn't so much the songs as it is the production. I think a lot of the songs are terrible, but that a couple like 'Some Kind Of Monster' and 'The Unnamed Feeling' would be brilliant if they'd been recorded and mixed right. Instead we get a guitar sound like sludge and drums that sound like biscuit tins, oh, and James Hetfield mostly singing out of tune.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: imapiratearg on 04 May 2008, 07:51
Guys, I like The Goo Goo Dolls.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: suitupletsgo on 04 May 2008, 08:14
I still love Reggie and the Full Effect.

I saw him on his first ever tour and it is to this day the most fun I've had at a concert.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: sean on 04 May 2008, 11:46
I enjoy MSI in petite doses.

Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: RedLion on 04 May 2008, 13:31
Guys, I like The Goo Goo Dolls.

Hey man, "Iris" is a good song. No shame there.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: sean on 04 May 2008, 13:35
Although, I just remembered: I never listened to Light Grenades, in part because the album cover was so ugly. Was that any good?

If I recall correctly, Light Grenades wasn't that good. Then again, it's been a while since I've given that record a listen.

I haven't listened to all of Make Belive but Aqueous Tramsission is a good song.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 04 May 2008, 14:27
Make Belive

 :?

But anyways, Incubus was really the first band I ever liked, so I still have a soft spot for them
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: duallain on 04 May 2008, 14:32
Although, I just remembered: I never listened to Light Grenades, in part because the album cover was so ugly. Was that any good?

If I recall correctly, Light Grenades wasn't that good. Then again, it's been a while since I've given that record a listen.

I haven't listened to all of Make Belive but Aqueous Tramsission is a good song.

I Liked Light Grenades, it takes a couple listens to have it catch however.   Also Aqueous Transmission is on Morning View and that whole record along with make yourself is just awesome.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Fod on 04 May 2008, 14:53
Above all others I think I'm mocked for liking MeatLoaf and breaking benjamin  :|
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: sean on 04 May 2008, 16:22
Shit shit shit you guys are right it was Morning View not Make Belive.

Goddamnit I should have known that. Sorry bout the mistake.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Kai on 04 May 2008, 16:29
I enjoy MSI in petite doses.

this is probably as close as I'd get, but I'm not really embarassed. Yes, they're not merit-worthy. But they're fun, and vulgar, and spastic and in the right situation can be excellent.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Ferahgo the Assassin on 04 May 2008, 16:47
I kind of like Savage Garden. I have a depressingly large collection of Disney music on my iTunes also, which is probably the most embarrassing thing I listen to. But seriously? Nothing rocks your shit quite like blasting "Be Prepared" with the windows down whilst driving through town...
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: morca007 on 04 May 2008, 16:48
My first strike policy works pretty well, if I act snobby about their music first it generally neuters any countermeasure.

That said, I am somewhat ashamed of Muse's primacy on my Last.fm chart.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: 20 jazz funk greats on 04 May 2008, 17:15
oh i listen to horrible music...j-pop, techno, house, and a whole bunch of other stuff that is probably not cool on teh interwebs.
shrug.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: imagist42 on 04 May 2008, 18:09
That is a joke right? If not you have obviously not spent enough time with the folks at ocremix.org
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Jackie Blue on 04 May 2008, 19:56
j-pop ... not cool on teh interwebs.

Is that a joke?

Also, to the person who said Nirvana and Snow Patrol: What?  Nirvana were a great band no matter how you slice it.  I would even say, and not even for the obvious reason, that they were for the late-80s early-90s what Joy Division/Warsaw was for the late-70s early-80s.  An intensely influential band who took a lot of cues from those that came before but managed to carve their own unique sound.  To this day I have never heard an album that really has managed to replicate the feel of In Utero.  Probably in a decade or so there will be a "post-grunge revival" like Interpol et al are doing the post-punk thing now.

And re:Snow Patrol, I've never listened to a whole album but "Run" is a fucking amazing song.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: orangepeas on 04 May 2008, 20:05
I am still pretty fond of some Incubus albums.  Also: pre-Sing the Sorrow AFI.

never be ashamed of Incubus.
pre sing the sorrow afi is pretty good to






i like hanson's new stuff. It's pretty good.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: imagist42 on 04 May 2008, 20:07
And re:Snow Patrol, I've never listened to a whole album but "Run" is a fucking amazing song.

The rest of the songs are pretty terrible. Except whatever that one single from Final Straw is, that one's good too.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Caspian on 04 May 2008, 20:41
Snow Patrol is like the Matchbox 20 of this decade. Really, unless if you're a 40 year old soccer mom there's no valid excuse for listening to them.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: imagist42 on 04 May 2008, 21:06
You realize Matchbox 20 hardly counts as a terrible 90's band... they released one album in the 90's, and that one was actually fairly decent as far as 90's grunge-esque rock goes.

Try harder.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Caspian on 04 May 2008, 21:09
You realize Matchbox 20 hardly counts as a terrible 90's band... they released one album in the 90's, and that one was actually fairly decent as far as 90's grunge-esque rock goes.

Try harder.

I make no apologies for not having a lot of knowledge about matchbox 20.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: imagist42 on 04 May 2008, 21:15
I'm just saying, if you're going to try to pin a label on something, you should actually see that the label applies. You could have compared Snow Patrol to Maroon 5. That's always appropriately offensive.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Caspian on 04 May 2008, 21:17
I'm just saying, if you're going to try to pin a label on something, you should actually see that the label applies. You could have compared Snow Patrol to Maroon 5. That's always appropriately offensive.

Actually that's a pretty good comparison, but Matchbox sound a bit more similar.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: imagist42 on 04 May 2008, 21:23
I'll give you that they sound pretty awful now, but you leave that earlier album (whatever it was; can't remember the name for the life of me now) alone. Most of those songs were A-OK.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Jackie Blue on 04 May 2008, 21:40
Aside from "Run" is Snow Patrol really that bad?  I mean, I find that hard to believe considering the main dude in the band is friends with Belle and Sebastian, Mogwai, Arab Strap, etc. and did two albums with members of said bands as The Reindeer Section.  Granted, those albums weren't amazing but they were very far from bad.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Jyan on 04 May 2008, 22:00
Aside from "Run" is Snow Patrol really that bad?  I mean, I find that hard to believe considering the main dude in the band is friends with Belle and Sebastian, Mogwai, Arab Strap, etc. and did two albums with members of said bands as The Reindeer Section.  Granted, those albums weren't amazing but they were very far from bad.


I really enjoyed a lot of Final Straw, but haven't really listened to the new albums, although that last single was...less than stellar.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: imagist42 on 04 May 2008, 22:12
I guess they started off well enough (the other song I was thinking of was "Chocolate"), but they definitely took a turn for the worse after Final Straw.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: E. Spaceman on 04 May 2008, 22:28
Snow Patrol used to be much different, really. They were more of a tweeish band on Jeepster and did a couple of pretty good albums. Then they switched to Polydor and turned towards a more electric and dramatic shape, whch still netted a fair few good songs, including the best "Early Century Dramatic Radioheadesque Ballad" with Run. Then they became a more dramatic Coldplay, a shame!
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: diablo_man on 04 May 2008, 23:07
well, i used to get hell for listening to whitesnake, but then i quit.

ummm, lots of akward moments when people look through my music library and find my metsl stuff(most of my collection) especially the weird named ones
like: cannibal corpse (i only like that one song, hammer smashed face)
death
morbid angel
death angel(they are now gone)
def leppard (just cause they are cheesy)
dethklok
electric wizard
finntroll
necrophagist
infected mushrooms
megadeth
meshuggah
municipal waste
napalm death
and others

what can i say, a lot of people i know are musical philistines
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Thrillho on 05 May 2008, 04:10
Snow Patrol used to be much different, really. They were more of a tweeish band on Jeepster and did a couple of pretty good albums. Then they switched to Polydor and turned towards a more electric and dramatic shape, whch still netted a fair few good songs, including the best "Early Century Dramatic Radioheadesque Ballad" with Run. Then they became a more dramatic Coldplay, a shame!

I still think Final Straw had some great tunes on it, even if they were trying to be Coldplay at times. I think 'Somewhere A Clock Is Ticking' is a truly breathtaking track.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: MadassAlex on 05 May 2008, 04:42
Guys, I think now is the time to admit that I like J-Rock. Sometimes.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: imapiratearg on 05 May 2008, 10:21
Aside from "Run" is Snow Patrol really that bad?  I mean, I find that hard to believe considering the main dude in the band is friends with Belle and Sebastian, Mogwai, Arab Strap, etc. and did two albums with members of said bands as The Reindeer Section.  Granted, those albums weren't amazing but they were very far from bad.


I have all of Eyes Open and some other cuts, and really, "Chasing Cars" is the most boring song on the whole album.  The rest of the album is pretty awesome.  "Open Your Eyes" is a fucking epic song, and paired with the album closer, "The Finish Line" ends the album on a beautiful note.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: rynne on 05 May 2008, 12:25
I know tons of people (myself included) who like Einsturzende Neubauten and Throbbing Gristle but I have never in my life met someone who genuinely likes Merzbow.  I still believe that Merzbow fans only exist on the Internet.

I had my first Merzbow album before I had an internet connection.  I’ll be the first to admit that it’s not something that I’d want to listen to every day, or even every month.  But when I’m in the mood for it, Merzbow has some interesting stuff going on.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: muffy on 05 May 2008, 12:35
I think I'm doing this wrong - there are only two Snow Patrol songs I like, and one of them is Run.
Plus, I really hate Belle and Sebastian.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: imagist42 on 05 May 2008, 12:53
Guys, I think now is the time to admit that I like J-Rock. Sometimes.

I'm confused. Who doesn't like J-rock?
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Thrillho on 05 May 2008, 13:15
Guys, I think now is the time to admit that I like J-Rock. Sometimes.

I'm confused. Who doesn't like J-rock?

I don't believe we've met.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: a pack of wolves on 05 May 2008, 13:19
Isn't j-rock just Japanese rock music? Because if you like rock music in general but don't like any bands at all from Japan... well, your taste is pretty damn shoddy.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Thrillho on 05 May 2008, 13:21
No. Becuase there are bands from Japan who make music they way they do just because that's where they're from, like Britpop, like country, like traditional Irish music or any other country's, it is the music that is defined by their locale.

Mad Capsule Markets are a Japanese rock band who I like very much, but they are not J-rock. J-rock is something in and of itself.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Barmymoo on 05 May 2008, 13:49
I just wrote a big long thing about why people hate the Arctic Monkeys, and then realised it was a bit like writing my own internet death warrant so I stopped.

I get regularly mocked for liking Dolly Parton, but I think that's because the people in question have never listened to her music and basically home in on her breasts. Which is understandable, I suppose.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Jackie Blue on 05 May 2008, 13:51
Yeah, J-Rock doesn't mean "rock made in Japan".  It means "shitty rock made in Japan with a certain aesthetic".  Dir En Gray is J-Rock.  Guitar Wolf, Shonen Knife, Boris, Acid Mothers Temple, Ghost, Melt-Banana, etc etc are not "J-Rock".
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: 20 jazz funk greats on 05 May 2008, 14:15
j-pop ... not cool on teh interwebs.

Is that a joke?

no.
people online who are not into anime or lurking 4chan tend to sneer at j-pop fans. 
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: a pack of wolves on 05 May 2008, 20:28
Yeah, J-Rock doesn't mean "rock made in Japan".  It means "shitty rock made in Japan with a certain aesthetic".  Dir En Gray is J-Rock.  Guitar Wolf, Shonen Knife, Boris, Acid Mothers Temple, Ghost, Melt-Banana, etc etc are not "J-Rock".


So it's just another word for visual kei then? I can't find anything online that defines it as anything other than rock music from Japan, and the first review on the website jrock.com is of a Guitar Wolf album.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: epitomynut on 06 May 2008, 15:49
Well let's see, there's the Russian pop music, Polka rap, Romanian love songs(mainly O-Zone), Jingle Cats...need I go on?
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: nufan on 06 May 2008, 17:05
So all in all, we can conclude that genres overall are complete bullshit. They seem to confuse more than organize, as far as I can see.

My problem with genres is that people take them way too seriously. Debating over whether something is black metal, white metal or green metal is plain old retarded. Calling it metal gives a decent approximation as to what it is, i.e. loud guitars and double bass drums. If it's stuck to a rough guide of the music then I wouldn't have any problems with genres.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: mc shit on 06 May 2008, 17:34
I like Dipset and some other select mainstream ignorant rap.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Caspian on 06 May 2008, 18:35
Plus, I really hate Belle and Sebastian.

Nothing to be ashamed of there.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: 3Z3VH on 06 May 2008, 19:50
Quite often I still get the urge to listen to Ace of Base, and Snow (as in "Informer"... as in the album '12 inches of snow')
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: MadassAlex on 07 May 2008, 01:44
I am pretty sure J-rock is termed so because the sound of it is culturally altered from western rock. I enjoy the actual differences in sound I've witnessed within the music, like the bias towards diatonic melody as opposed to pentatonic melody and what I feel is stronger song dynamic. Marty Friedman once told me that they have a word for the energy of song dynamic, which is pretty cool.

I also enjoy Marty Friedman! He moved to Japan to get into the music there, and starred in a show called Rock Fujiama. Fujiyama? One of those words. In any case, the show was totally awesome even though I couldn't understand what they were saying. Look it up on YouTube, it's pretty rockin' as long as you like some kind of hard rock.

This comment and my comment in the porn thread make me seem like a Japanophile but I swear it's not true.

Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: the-artful-dodger-rodger on 13 May 2008, 13:22
My guilty pleasures are danish pop bands like Toy Box,Aqua,The Cartoons and so many other daish pop bands. other bands like Ludo and j-rock bands also
and at one point I did actually like Nickelback.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: aeroledzepp on 13 May 2008, 17:32
I like "St Anger" by Metallica.

THIS is where I get absoloutely mauled.

That might be cause it sucks so incredibly hard.  I mean, it's Metallica trying to do nu-metal to stay hip with the times, and failing miserably even at that goal.  (http://www.nirvana2.com/smilies/funone.gif)
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: aeroledzepp on 13 May 2008, 17:34
So all in all, we can conclude that genres overall are complete bullshit. They seem to confuse more than organize, as far as I can see.

My problem with genres is that people take them way too seriously. Debating over whether something is black metal, white metal or green metal is plain old retarded. Calling it metal gives a decent approximation as to what it is, i.e. loud guitars and double bass drums. If it's stuck to a rough guide of the music then I wouldn't have any problems with genres.

If you can't tell the difference between Metallica, The Dillinger Escape Plan, and Wolves in the Throne Room then I'd get yer ears checked, mon ami.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Lillian on 13 May 2008, 18:17
BAhahaha, I win for dirty secret music.


I still jam out to The Backstreet Boys.

But for serious:

Death Cab fo' sho'.


Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Funk Thompson on 20 May 2008, 10:39
Pretty much every "Jam Band" I like, I get mocked for.  I'll post something in a thread somewhere, and get the typical "Phish wants their crappy sound back" reply.

Madahoochi, 56 Hope Road, The Station, Speakeasy, Mofro, Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey, Jazz Mandolin Project, Widespread Panic, Leftover Salmon, String Cheese Incident, The Big Wu, Tea Leaf Green, Phish / Trey, etc.

About the only "jam band" that I get any respect at all for is Medeski, Martin, and Wood.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 20 May 2008, 11:30
Well, they are more jazz than jam band
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Funk Thompson on 20 May 2008, 11:34
Well, they are more jazz than jam band

Every "jam band" is more something than jam band, at least the good ones.  The only thing that earns the "jam band" label is, well, the jam - some are blues, or rock, or bluegrass, or whatever.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Divide by Zero on 20 May 2008, 12:47
There are circles in which it would impolitic to mention that I like the organ music of Louis James Alfred Lefébure-Wély, but you may not care.

Paul

You're fucking kidding me. I'd shoot myself before I'd admit THAT in public. Fucking John Williams is a better composer than that asshole.

All joking aside, my taste in music is excessively eclectic. A long time ago I realized that I very rarely like more than three songs off of an album, so I've mostly stopped getting entire CDs and now stick to downloading individual songs most of the time. As such, my library includes individual tracks by...

Ben Folds, The Black Eyed Peas, Bond, Bright Eyes, Busta Rhymes, Chris Brown, Ciara, Cobra Starship, Dead Kennedys, Del Amitri, Evanescence, Fall Out Boy, Garbage, Gnarls Barkley, Gorillaz, Gwen Stefani, The Hives, Jack Johnson, Jamiroquai, Jason Mraz, Jem, Jet, Joan Osborne, Justin Timberlake, KT Tunstall, Lunatic Calm, M.I.A., Macy Gray, Mario, Maroon 5, Michael Jackson, Missy Elliot, a crapload of Muse, My Chemical Romance, OutKast, Pitbull, Prince, Rachel Stevens (that one I'm particularly embarrassed about), Red Jumpsuit Apparatus (One song, "Face Down", because it's about an abusive relationship and I volunteer at the local family shelter.), Rob Zombie, Smash Mouth, Spoon, Steve Vai, Timbaland, Tori Amos, and Weird Al.

Sorry about the wall of text. I got kind of into going through my iTunes library to see who you'd make fun of. That's about 40% of my music right there, and 90% of the artists above I only have one song from, in several cases because I needed it to practice for dance class.

But the one artist I've taken the most crap for, including one kid wondering out loud if anybody actually likes him, is FatBoy Slim, who was my favorite artist until I discovered Raquy and the Cavemen.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: pwhodges on 20 May 2008, 13:48
Fucking John Williams is a better composer than that asshole.

I never said that Lefébure-Wély was a good (http://cassland.org/sounds/Lefébure-Wély_-_Marche_in_C.mp3) composer; but what's not to like, for a smile on the face from time to time, in the total absurdity of this (http://cassland.org/sounds/Lefebure-Wely_-_Marche_in_C.mp3)?

Paul
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Divide by Zero on 20 May 2008, 13:54
You're quite right. 403 errors are rather absurd.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: the Goat on 20 May 2008, 13:58
Bloc Party.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: bbqrocks on 20 May 2008, 14:02
Well, I was fairly ashamed when our german teacher found several grindcore bands on my ipod, ie 'anal cunt', 'anal blast', 'teen pussy fucker'.

And Mika.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: pwhodges on 21 May 2008, 03:22
You're quite right. 403 errors are rather absurd.

:~)

It worked from my browsers, but your browser was requesting the file using a different (presumably incorrect) encoded string for the "é" in the file name than mine was; rather than research the reason for this right now I have removed the accents from the link (http://cassland.org/sounds/Lefebure-Wely_-_Marche_in_C.mp3), so it will now work for you.

Paul
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Divide by Zero on 21 May 2008, 08:30
Amusing, indeed. Kind of like how I enjoy "Frontier Psychiatrist" by The Avalanches. (<=On-topic portion of this post) Although neither one is something I'd listen to often.

I'm reminded of the opening cutscenes from Dark Cloud 2. Specifically, the part with an evil clown at a carnival playing the accordion.

Eh, it doesn't surprise me that there's always been a place for novelty music.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Fluxuation on 21 May 2008, 12:07
guilty pleasures: taking back sunday, fall out boy, eisley
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Jepser on 21 May 2008, 12:15
I listen to Stevie Wonder occasionally.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: imapiratearg on 21 May 2008, 12:40
I thoroughly enjoy Jimmy Eat World.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Mister Arkadin on 21 May 2008, 13:39
Cobra starship.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Kai on 21 May 2008, 15:03
All joking aside, my taste in music is excessively eclectic.

Your taste is not eclectic, original, or anything more than kind-of mundane in the slightest, sorry dude
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Mister Arkadin on 21 May 2008, 16:56
I would be somewhat inclined to agree but it's not like my taste in music is any better.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: diablo_man on 21 May 2008, 17:13
There are circles in which it would impolitic to mention that I like the organ music of Louis James Alfred Lefébure-Wély, but you may not care.

Paul

You're fucking kidding me. I'd shoot myself before I'd admit THAT in public. Fucking John Williams is a better composer than that asshole.

All joking aside, my taste in music is excessively eclectic. A long time ago I realized that I very rarely like more than three songs off of an album, so I've mostly stopped getting entire CDs and now stick to downloading individual songs most of the time. As such, my library includes individual tracks by...

Ben Folds, The Black Eyed Peas, Bond, Bright Eyes, Busta Rhymes, Chris Brown, Ciara, Cobra Starship, Dead Kennedys, Del Amitri, Evanescence, Fall Out Boy, Garbage, Gnarls Barkley, Gorillaz, Gwen Stefani, The Hives, Jack Johnson, Jamiroquai, Jason Mraz, Jem, Jet, Joan Osborne, Justin Timberlake, KT Tunstall, Lunatic Calm, M.I.A., Macy Gray, Mario, Maroon 5, Michael Jackson, Missy Elliot, a crapload of Muse, My Chemical Romance, OutKast, Pitbull, Prince, Rachel Stevens (that one I'm particularly embarrassed about), Red Jumpsuit Apparatus (One song, "Face Down", because it's about an abusive relationship and I volunteer at the local family shelter.), Rob Zombie, Smash Mouth, Spoon, Steve Vai, Timbaland, Tori Amos, and Weird Al.

apart from steve vai, that is probably the most mainstream music posted here.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: De_El on 21 May 2008, 22:07
....Dead Kennedys is mainstream?
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: diablo_man on 21 May 2008, 22:32
^didnt even notice the dead kennedys, my mistake.


So... Steve Vai is more mainstream than those bands?
no i clearly said that the other bands, with the exception of Vai are fairly mainstream.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: zombor on 21 May 2008, 23:52
http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/DP/2007/06/175_1_Yamaha_Music_Foundation_-_The_Salad_Song.mp3
http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/DP/2007/08/219_2_Kenny_Meyer_-_'Scuse_Me_Sassoon.mp3

yes.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: David_Dovey on 22 May 2008, 01:26
"Frontier Psychiatrist" by The Avalanches.

The Avalanches are incredible and essential listening to anybody even vaguely interested in electronic music

I listen to Stevie Wonder occasionally.

Listen more often. Jesus Christ people.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: MadassAlex on 22 May 2008, 05:37
Why is Eminem a guilty pleasure? I am quite pleased with the way he used humour and I still consider him to be a good satirist.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Jackie Blue on 22 May 2008, 08:31
Pretty much every "Jam Band" I like, I get mocked for.

Do you listen to Sountribe Sector 9?  They're considered a jam band but are way better than any of those others.  They're much more of a psychedelic/space-rock band, especially live.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Divide by Zero on 22 May 2008, 08:33
All joking aside, my taste in music is excessively eclectic.

Your taste is not eclectic, original, or anything more than kind-of mundane in the slightest, sorry dude

And you're basing that statement on, what, a selection of music specifically chosen to be as mainstream as possible?

Just going by what's on my iPod shuffle right now, I can add:

Sergio Mendes, UNKLE, Josh Homme, May Day,  Tim Love Lee, Bitter:Sweet, Laika, Rilo Kiley, Cibo Matto, Barbatuques, VAST, Elwood, The Crystal Method, Christian Kane, Moby, The Dandy Warhols, Powerglove, Gus Gus, Calexico (I think), The Seatbelts, The Detroit Cobras, The Black Crowes, Daft Punk, Fluke, TV On the Radio, Beck, LCD Soundsystem, Junior Senior, Primal Scream, Lenny Kravitz, The Klaxons, Regina Spektor, Duffy, Anne Trolle / Peder, Lovage, a bunch of college a Capella, Danger, Portishead, Hot Hot Heat, Modest Mouse, Adam Ant, Wolfmother, Yael Naim, Donora, The Resource, Joe Cocker, Arctic Monkeys, Franz Ferdinand, Spoon, Stereophonics,  Goldfrapp, Aerosmith, Tom Lehrer, Juliet Turner, The Cardigans, Lily Allen, Mark Ronson, The Faders, The Pierces, Local H, Michael Buble, Aretha Franklin, Ray Charles, MC Solaar, Tom Jones, Ursula 1000, Vitamin String Quartet, Stones, Beatles, Donovan, The Who, !!!, Nouvelle Vague, Paolo Nutini, Feist, Paul Oakenfold, QOTSA, OK Go, The Fratellis, Shirley Bassey, The Propellerheads, George Thorogood, Rhinoceros, Touch & Go, Cornershop, and several whose names I can't spell because they're not in English and I don't have them in front of me.

Oh, and two artists I discovered on MySpace who I can guarantee you haven't heard of, based on their friendslists numbering less than 1,000: Blue Block and Monotype.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Jackie Blue on 22 May 2008, 08:43
And you're basing that statement on, what, a selection of music specifically chosen to be as mainstream as possible?

Just going by what's on my iPod shuffle right now, I can add:

Sergio Mendes, UNKLE, Josh Homme, May Day,  Tim Love Lee, Bitter:Sweet, Laika, Rilo Kiley, Cibo Matto, Barbatuques, VAST, Elwood, The Crystal Method, Christian Kane, Moby, The Dandy Warhols, Powerglove, Gus Gus, Calexico (I think), The Seatbelts, The Detroit Cobras, The Black Crowes, Daft Punk, Fluke, TV On the Radio, Beck, LCD Soundsystem, Junior Senior, Primal Scream, Lenny Kravitz, The Klaxons, Regina Spektor, Duffy, Anne Trolle / Peder, Lovage, a bunch of college a Capella, Danger, Portishead, Hot Hot Heat, Modest Mouse, Adam Ant, Wolfmother, Yael Naim, Donora, The Resource, Joe Cocker, Arctic Monkeys, Franz Ferdinand, Spoon, Stereophonics,  Goldfrapp, Aerosmith, Tom Lehrer, Juliet Turner, The Cardigans, Lily Allen, Mark Ronson, The Faders, The Pierces, Local H, Michael Buble, Aretha Franklin, Ray Charles, MC Solaar, Tom Jones, Ursula 1000, Vitamin String Quartet, Stones, Beatles, Donovan, The Who, !!!, Nouvelle Vague, Paolo Nutini, Feist, Paul Oakenfold, QOTSA, OK Go, The Fratellis, Shirley Bassey, The Propellerheads, George Thorogood, Rhinoceros, Touch & Go, Cornershop, and several whose names I can't spell because they're not in English and I don't have them in front of me.

Just stop.  You're trying way too hard.  You don't have to prove yourself, and you're doing a poor job of it anyway since pretty much all of that is extremely mainstream and not very eclectic either.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: huggy_bear75 on 22 May 2008, 09:02
3oh3 and Chamillionaire's Ridin'
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Divide by Zero on 22 May 2008, 09:19
Not trying too hard, I just have Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Like Hannelore without the exaggeration. If I start, I have to keep going until I'm finished. Medication keeps it manageable, but it doesn't make it disappear. My apologies for doing that. I'm in the habit of making ridiculously long lists and I don't know how to trim them down.

I just don't know anybody else who likes Sergio Mendes, Tim Love Lee, and Primal Scream. Eclectic means from a wide variety of sources, which I believe does describe my taste in music.

That being said, I have found that this community's definition of mainstream includes a lot of a music that most people haven't even heard of. I'm still in high school for the next month or so. I get exposed to a lot of... and the term makes me nauseous... "Top 40" music that just wouldn't be on my radar otherwise. Most of the people I know don't listen to a lot of Indie music, and the ones who do never get much deeper than Regina Spektor, Arctic Monkeys and Spoon. This is why I hate high school. I will be very surprised if more than a handful of people within a 15 mile radius of me have heard of UNKLE, Duffy, Donora, or Ursula 1000.

The "Criminally Ignored" thread illustrates this perfectly. A lot of the bands people on there are saying are popular are bands I doubt that more than one or two percent of the general population will ever hear of. And this is not something I can understand.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Jackie Blue on 22 May 2008, 09:34
You may not know anyone who listens to Primal Scream, but they sold a lot of records in their home country and were pretty close to mainstream.

They even had a hit in America.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: a pack of wolves on 22 May 2008, 10:00
Primal Scream weren't just close to mainstream, they were absolutely massive over here. Still are really, they're the sort of band who headline big festivals.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Jackie Blue on 22 May 2008, 10:02
I get exposed to a lot of... and the term makes me nauseous... "Top 40" music

What's wrong with Top 40 music?  Some of it is rather good, I think.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: benji on 22 May 2008, 10:34
The "Criminally Ignored" thread illustrates this perfectly. A lot of the bands people on there are saying are popular are bands I doubt that more than one or two percent of the general population will ever hear of. And this is not something I can understand.

It's kind of a matter of who you hang out with. A lot of people here spend a lot of time listening to music, and a lot of time plugged in to the music world. We hear about a lot more, so our standards of what's mainstream gets kind of skewed. For example, I'm kind of surprised that Duffy is on your list of bands most people haven't heard of around you because I'm hearing her all over the place. I feel like she's kind of new to the mainstream, but becoming quite mainstream. Another example: among my friends I'm considered a real music nerd who's really tuned in to all of the stuff that's going on musically. On this sight, I'm probably at about average to a little bit below (depending on what kind of music we're talking about).

The word eclectic is pretty relative too. I used to work with someone who said she liked everything, which meant that she liked all of the stuff played on the country, pop, hip-hop, and rock stations in our area.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Thrillho on 22 May 2008, 10:49
Chamillionaire's Ridin'

That song is a waste of a considerable rapping talent. 'Hip Hop Police' is a much better example.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Divide by Zero on 22 May 2008, 11:42
All of this is extremely educational and I appreciate that. Thanks, guys.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Jackie Blue on 22 May 2008, 12:43
Primal Scream weren't just close to mainstream, they were absolutely massive over here.

Screamadelica and XTRMNTR are pretty damn close to perfect, for what they're trying to be.  Their other stuff is good, but those two are truly excellent.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: suitupletsgo on 22 May 2008, 13:03
fucking Wolfmother? really?
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Chad K. on 22 May 2008, 13:34
Oh, 'scuse me.  I didn't realize there were fellas in here with their indie-dicks out.  Begging your pardon.  You boys can go back to your rulers.

Edit: This is not in reference to the previous post.

Also... dirty secrets-  Get Up Kids' "Four Minute Mile" and Mineral's "End Serenading".  Both really annoy my friends and girlfriend to no end for poppy and whiny reasons, respectively.




Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 22 May 2008, 13:42
ITT: Jens tries to reason with people but they ignore him and be even bigger jerks to compensate.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: sean on 22 May 2008, 13:50
Sounds like its time for another episode of Harry Locks a Thread!

Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: a pack of wolves on 22 May 2008, 15:19
dirty secrets-  Get Up Kids' "Four Minute Mile"

Sacrilege! You can't fuck with that band. Well, not up until On A Wire which was atrocious crap anyway. But everything up to and including Something To Write Home About is absolute gold.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: E. Spaceman on 22 May 2008, 21:37
Eclectic is the most bullshit word ever to describe your taste.

I don't have any guilty pleasures as far as music goes. I listen to plenty of bands that will be frowned on by one group or another but that isn't important to me, neither does it make me feel better or special. I like what I like and that is the whole deal.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: De_El on 22 May 2008, 22:03
If that is true, the fact that it isn't important to you, or at least doesn't affect you, makes you somewhat unique.  Uh..See thread. Is this a totally redundant thing to be saying? Point is: great for you, but most people aren't like that.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: RobbieOC on 22 May 2008, 22:32
Guys, my taste is totally ecclectic. I'll listen to anything except country and rap.

But for real, my biggest guilty pleasure is probably Garth Brooks. He ruled my life when I was in elementary/junior high. And, I still love listening to him. And I don't even care.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: E. Spaceman on 22 May 2008, 22:35
If that is true, the fact that it isn't important to you, or at least doesn't affect you, makes you somewhat unique.  Uh..See thread. Is this a totally redundant thing to be saying? Point is: great for you, but most people aren't like that.

I an sorry people are embarassed by themselves. Most people I know though, don't have these guilty pleasures. Maybe because most of the people I know are not big music geeks do they tend to just listen to what they want and not care much
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: pilsner on 23 May 2008, 05:53
So they don't enjoy life, is what you're saying.  Why don't they just kill themselves?

Also, folks, all eclectic (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/eclectic) means is composed of elements from different sources (or the best from different sources), so the implication in calling your musical taste eclectic is not that you like obscure music, it's that you listen to a lot of different genres.  For instance: jazz, classical, hip hop, opera, black metal, dub, big beat and swing, topped off with a little Christian and progressive rock all in the same day.  It's not, in and of itself, a good or bad thing -- and it does not make you special.

As for music you're ashamed of, I like to listen to the shrieks of chihuahuas being slowly lowered into boiling apple sauce, but you don't see me apologizing for it.  No, instead I make millions of dollars every year on my Hot Dog label, catering to the tastes of dogs 'n sauce lovers worldwide.  Because I like myself, and I'm entrepreneurial.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Thrillho on 23 May 2008, 10:59
If that is true, the fact that it isn't important to you, or at least doesn't affect you, makes you somewhat unique.  Uh..See thread. Is this a totally redundant thing to be saying? Point is: great for you, but most people aren't like that.

Didn't like, four or five people, including myself, say it on the first page? I think there's more of us than you think.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 23 May 2008, 11:15
Eclectic is the most bullshit word ever to describe your taste.

DOES NOT COMPUTE

that's like saying delicious is a bullshit word to describe food.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: De_El on 23 May 2008, 22:31
Didn't like, four or five people, including myself, say it on the first page? I think there's more of us than you think.

This is where it just becomes me being suspicious/paranoid.  To me it seems like the people who make a deal out of saying "I don't even curr" are still just defending their image and self-perception. I don't really trust extremes, and to say that you don't care at all is a sort of extreme.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: a pack of wolves on 24 May 2008, 01:41
Why is it extreme? I just don't see why I should feel embarrassed about liking a band. Sure, when I was younger and wanting to be either indie or punk as fuck then I would have been wary about admitting my love for a maligned band, but I think 25 is a bit old to be worrying about your punk rock image. I don't spike my hair anymore, I don't always have to have a band logo somewhere on my clothing and I don't care if someone knows I like a bit of Good Clean Fun or Andrew WK. It would be counter-productive anyway. For one thing I'd have to keep changing what my guilty pleasures are. For some people I know Arsedestroyer and Man Is The Bastard are classics, others would find them hilarious and vice versa for R Kelly and Bruce Springsteen. Besides, amongst the people I know who are most into music only admitting to liking cool bands and trying to pretend you don't enjoy something you actually do is seen as pretty lame, you'll get more respect for liking what you like whatever that is. So where's the point in guilty pleasures?
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: McTaggart on 24 May 2008, 01:54
Yeah, I'm gonna chime in and say that I don't think not being ashamed of what you like is extreme at all. Sure, there are things in my collection that I won't bring up around certain people, but that's more so I don't cop flak from people who disagree than to stop people finding out. I don't have any cds hidden away or hidden folders on my computer or anything and there's nothing that I want to hide from myself.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: ledhendrix on 24 May 2008, 02:14
I don't get embarrassed about my music taste, probably never have done. Everybody is going to have different music tastes, and screw the person that says one is more acceptable than the other.

It seems that I should have read this thread more thoroughly. It's already been said.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: diablo_man on 24 May 2008, 07:34
to the people who dont care about, have you ever had to explain why you listen to bands like necrophagist, etc?
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Jackie Blue on 24 May 2008, 08:56
I don't really see how honestly not caring what people think of my musical taste is an extreme.  I mean, is it extreme to not care what people think of your sexual preference or your beer preference?
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: De_El on 24 May 2008, 09:39
So, people didn't really get what I was saying, which is totally okay because it's kind of esoteric and weirdly phrased.  I mean that it's an extreme in the sense that you have a spectrum of not caring to caring, not at all caring being 0% and totally caring being 100%. I am willing to believe a few people are down at like, 1 or 2%, but most people are somewhere near the middle? And caring what people think of your musical tastes doesn't have to be "if person A dislikes band B, I will cease to like band B, or at least claim as much." It could just be that you consider other people's opinions and relate them to your own, which results in some impact on your thoughts.

Perhaps I am just a little unusual in the way I think. Perhaps I am okay with that.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Jackie Blue on 24 May 2008, 09:42
I'll concede that the percentage of people who honestly don't care what other people think of their taste is not terribly high, but I am pretty sure I honestly don't anymore.  I used to.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Thrillho on 24 May 2008, 10:53
Didn't like, four or five people, including myself, say it on the first page? I think there's more of us than you think.

This is where it just becomes me being suspicious/paranoid.  To me it seems like the people who make a deal out of saying "I don't even curr" are still just defending their image and self-perception. I don't really trust extremes, and to say that you don't care at all is a sort of extreme.

I don't know, to me it's usually just more of a pre-emptive strike because especially on the net there's always some jackass who'll say 'lol they're shit no-one cool listens to them' to anything you listen to.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: a pack of wolves on 24 May 2008, 17:46
to the people who dont care about, have you ever had to explain why you listen to bands like necrophagist, etc?

Oh yes, Necrophagist isn't very odd at all in the grand scheme of things. Not much of a fan myself but I do like comparable bands like Origin or Nile. Much odder is noise like Kylie Minoise, Filthy Turd or Lambsbread. It's really not a big deal though. Many good friends of mine don't understand why I like a lot of the music I do but I don't see why this should make me feel guilty about it or try to hide it. Who cares? It's just a bit of music.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: E. Spaceman on 24 May 2008, 18:11
to the people who dont care about, have you ever had to explain why you listen to bands like necrophagist, etc?


Yes, my answer has always been "because I enjoy listening to it".
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: ledhendrix on 25 May 2008, 02:23
Yeah if people are telling you what to listen to and what not to they are a bit shit. It's hardly a big thing to listen to something different, if that thing is so "wildly" different from what said people are listening to themselves they should probably open there music taste up a bit.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Divide by Zero on 25 May 2008, 11:27
Let me argue the other side of this for a bit.

I am embarassed that I enjoy listening to some Pitbull songs. Not because of what other people may think, but because of what I myself do think. His lyrics are horribly sexist and offensive, and I feel guilty that someone as socially progressive as I try to be enjoys music like that. But I love his beats and sense of rhythm, and he knows how to rap really really well. So I'm conflicted.

I am embarassed that I enjoy listening to Rachel Stevens because her songs (at least the two or three I like) are about girl power and dissing this one specific man, so it's a slightly emasculating feeling, getting really into, say, "Some Girls".

I am embarassed that I enjoy listening to Fall Out Boy because Patrick Stump can't sing, Pete Wentz isn't nearly as good a lyricist as he pretends to be and probably thinks he is, and their guitar playing is nothing original. But I enjoy some of their songs for the same reason that people eat Twinkies; junk food tastes good even if there isn't any really quality to the contents.

I am embarassed that I like Paramore's "Misery Business" because the band is entirely the creation of a record company and didn't even exist as a group until Sony decided to put these disconnected musicians together to form a band that was carefully marketed to appeal to teen and tween girls.

Note: All opinions expressed above are entirely the author's own and he completely expects people to disagree with them and is really okay with that.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: muffy on 25 May 2008, 14:11
I've used that 'junk food' argument to explain my unnatural fondness for Fall Out Boy before in conversation - it's pretty apt. Even talented chefs eat Bic Macs once in a while. And enjoy them. And even if they complain about the ingredients/aftertaste/lack of ethics in the product, they'll go back and do it again.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: diablo_man on 25 May 2008, 14:35

Oh yes, Necrophagist isn't very odd at all in the grand scheme of things. Not much of a fan myself but I do like comparable bands like Origin or Nile. Much odder is noise like Kylie Minoise, Filthy Turd or Lambsbread. It's really not a big deal though. Many good friends of mine don't understand why I like a lot of the music I do but I don't see why this should make me feel guilty about it or try to hide it. Who cares? It's just a bit of music.


Yes, my answer has always been "because I enjoy listening to it".

well, thats what i use, but still, its hardly something i advertise, because quite simply almost no one will get why or just think worse of me for it. so no big deal i can listen to what i want, but i still find it awkward explaining to girls why i would enjoy listening to a song called  "fermented offal discharge"  (but really, the solo is sweet!).

and yes nile kicks ass, i just got their three latest albums, havent tried Origen, are they good? yeah, ive listened to metal for a long time, but i still want into this sort of thing until very recently, so i understand why other people wouldn't want to hear it.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Thrillho on 25 May 2008, 15:57
I am embarassed that I like Paramore's "Misery Business" because the band is entirely the creation of a record company and didn't even exist as a group until Sony decided to put these disconnected musicians together to form a band that was carefully marketed to appeal to teen and tween girls.

Yeah, but... she's so fucking hot, man.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: jeph on 25 May 2008, 16:04
My favorite David Bowie albums are Outside and Earthling.

fuck youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu[crashes plane into mount rushmore]
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Divide by Zero on 25 May 2008, 16:06
I am embarassed that I like Paramore's "Misery Business" because the band is entirely the creation of a record company and didn't even exist as a group until Sony decided to put these disconnected musicians together to form a band that was carefully marketed to appeal to teen and tween girls.

Yeah, but... she's so fucking hot, man.

That's a major part of the appeal for me. But then, I'm 18.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Thrillho on 25 May 2008, 16:11
Honestly, that's why I got into them. But then I realised they have some pretty infectious pop-punk songs, and that considering her age she is an outstanding vocalist and a pretty good lyricist by generic emo standards. I think 'Misery Business' has some nice lines in it ("she has a body like an hourglass/it's ticking like a clock").

However, she is so fucking hot, man. I hope to meet her one day. I might just have an erection in the photo, though.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Funk Thompson on 27 May 2008, 17:02
Pretty much every "Jam Band" I like, I get mocked for.

Do you listen to Sountribe Sector 9?  They're considered a jam band but are way better than any of those others.  They're much more of a psychedelic/space-rock band, especially live.


I like STS9 live, though they aren't a favorite - I'm not big on the electronic jam bands;  Galactic, Particle, Disco Biscuits...  all fun at a festival but not exactly my thing. 
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 27 May 2008, 17:22
I am embarassed that I like Paramore's "Misery Business" because the band is entirely the creation of a record company and didn't even exist as a group until Sony decided to put these disconnected musicians together to form a band that was carefully marketed to appeal to teen and tween girls.

Yeah, but... she's so fucking hot, man.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: RedLion on 28 May 2008, 21:04
I enjoy U2 far more than I feel I should.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: MrSteevo on 28 May 2008, 21:35
Don't worry man, you're not alone.
Something about them draws me back everytime.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Jackie Blue on 28 May 2008, 21:46
Zooropa is a perfect 10/10 album.
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: E. Spaceman on 28 May 2008, 21:51
Zooropa is pretty great. Achtung Baby too, hell, I even like songs from Pop
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: David_Dovey on 29 May 2008, 01:56
I don't know, to me it's usually just more of a pre-emptive strike because especially on the net there's always some jackass who'll say 'lol they're shit no-one cool listens to them' to anything you listen to.

True enough, but there's a difference between "not caring what anyone thinks of your music" and "not caring what moronic Internet fucktards think of your music."
Title: Re: Dirty secret music
Post by: Thrillho on 29 May 2008, 11:11
I can assure you both apply. But please note the 'especially' appended there. Virtually EVERYONE I know thinks that SOMETHING I listen to is shit, and I just don't take any crap for it, and I don't give them any crap for what they listen to either.