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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: pencilears on 10 May 2008, 20:58
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Dear Jeph,
I saw your booth today at the emerald city comicon and make some statements about your drawing of the cast on a boat that I now seek to back up with pictures of other small boats for you to reference should boat drawing be a necessary subject of future drawings. I understand the stays are hard to see on most of these pictures but trust me, with out them the mast falls down.
and I hope that it will be, as boats are fun and are also useful plot devices if you want some kind of emotional drama on the high seas.
http://www.geocities.com/garylambda/SailingPhotos.html
is me and my Dad in Dad's swampscot dory the TigerLilly
http://www.ghboats.com/17_skiff.shtm
is a jersey skiff which is similar to the boat that you no doubt originally intended to draw
http://www.cwb.org/BoatDatabaseSailMed.htm
is the center for wooden boats, unfortunately they only have small pictures
http://members.shaw.ca/jamie.orr/Sucia%202005/20047.htm
fools and Canadians trying to sail to the middle of the sound with no wind, some reasonable pictures all small pictures expand to a more reasonable size
http://www.boat-links.com/Sucia/
more boat photos than anyone could ever reasonably need.
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boats are fun and are also useful plot devices if you want some kind of emotional drama on the high seas.
Psh. If you really want drama, you put someone in the middle of the ocean without a boat.
Anyway, to clarify for the incognoscenti, the stay is the line that holds a mast up. When you're sailing, the wind pushes the sail, which pulls on the mast, which pulls the boat. Without the stay, the mast would just fall forward (in a square-rigged ship, at least). In the second picture, the sail at the front of the boat is a stay sail and it's drawn up and down on the forward stay (there to balance the back stay).
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Anyway, to clarify for the incognoscenti, the stay is the line that holds a mast up....
<pedantry>Stays and lines are both ropes. Stays hold up the mast(s). Lines hold up (and otherwise adjust) the sails. </pedantry>
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are you...
a boat fetishist?
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Anyway, to clarify for the incognoscenti, the stay is the line that holds a mast up....
<pedantry>Stays and lines are both ropes. Stays hold up the mast(s). Lines hold up (and otherwise adjust) the sails. </pedantry>
My bad. My knowledge of sailing (far from encyclopedic) is based mostly on the works of Patrick O'Brian. He discusses stays, preventer-stays, preventer-back-stays and more... but I don't recall any differentiation of lines.
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are you...
a boat fetishist?
Maybe they aren't, but now you've said that (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=715#), someone is.
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... the works of Patrick O'Brian.....
My own eyes tended to glaze over whenever Capt. Aubrey tried to explain the finer points of sailing to Dr. Maturin, too. The bit about the lines and stays is one of the few things I can state with any certainty.
They were good books, weren't they? I was sad when I came to the end of #20 and knew that there wouldn't be any more where they came from.
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#21 was published posthumously, y'know.
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#21 was unfinished and unpolished. It was worth a look, but it was like seeing a house with the foundation dug and some of the construction materials piled up in the bare dirt around the site. In comparison to the other books which were complete, furnished, landscaped homes.
Perhaps too tortured a metaphor, but accurate in my view.
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boats boats boats boats boats
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www.boatse.cx (http://images.google.com/images?q=boats)
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Anyway, to clarify for the incognoscenti, the stay is the line that holds a mast up....
<pedantry>Stays and lines are both ropes. Stays hold up the mast(s). Lines hold up (and otherwise adjust) the sails. </pedantry>
My bad. My knowledge of sailing (far from encyclopedic) is based mostly on the works of Patrick O'Brian. He discusses stays, preventer-stays, preventer-back-stays and more... but I don't recall any differentiation of lines.
another O'Brian fan! be still my beating heart!
yeah it's a bummer he never got to finish the series but Aubry got the blue pennant (I think, its been a bit) and thats what matters right?
yeah I just go sailing with my Dad and try not to sit on all of the rigging at once.