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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: rofflesaurusrex on 20 May 2008, 17:04
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Dont get me wrong there are 1000's of band out there that get no where near the
respect they deserve, but does anyone have respect left for some good ol' reggae?
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I've just never gotten into reggae - don't get me wrong, there are a few songs I like, but it is one of those types of music I can only handle in small doses. Even a lot of the 'reggae-ish' bands like 311 I can only handle for a short while.
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In my opinion reggae is more or less aquired taste, i gained respect over some time and actually feelin out the songs and artists. but who really cares what i think
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Sorry, wasn't trying to poop on your thread :D
"There is no accounting for taste" - mine and yours included ;)
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thats totally fine man im not sayin you did
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I guess? From what I've heard I like, but the only real experience with it is through crossover bands or albums like the Bedouin Soundclash and My Morning Jacket's Z.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/TheHusseinSkank/3329da5f9253ee630e355c3bf89daa23.jpg)
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Er... yes?
Maybe you're not mixing in the right circles!
Plenty of people I know congregate in parks to listen to reggae/dub on home-made sound systems, and smoke a few spliffs and drink a few long-necks. Great way to spend a summer afternoon.
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I completely laugh at one person respecting reggae.
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I'm not even sure that option is respecting reggae. It's kinda weirdly yelling at raggae.
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I'm not even sure that option is respecting reggae. It's kinda weirdly yelling at raggae.
What.
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YEEEEeeeE
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YEEEEeeeE
It means yes.
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You don't say...
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YEEEEeeeE
It means yes.
yes dude it does
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Man, you guys are helpful
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Man, you guys are helpful
About as helpful as a midget lifeguard you doesn't know how to swim
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What?
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I see what he is saying. It sounds like a midget lifeguard's last breath escaping to the surface, as opposed to a vocal sign of affirmation e.g. "Yes"
Thank you Ben.
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You are wise in the ways of midget drowning
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you are guys are silly.
i like some reggae...hmm
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Reggae gets love from me, despite its association with douche bags, it's pretty solid. Black Uhuru and Steel Pulse are genuinely good.
Dub, though, dub's a tough one. I like most of the music that island has put out, but dub was always the toughest nut to crack. For a long time I couldn't escape the feeling that it was just ruining good songs. I got the Trojan Dub sets, vol 1 & 2, tried really hard to figure out what it was that made people like the Clash, Fugazi, and others found so great about it. I could see how some of the techniques were interesting and clever, but in and of itself, I couldn't find it that listenable. Perhaps its the fact that its club music and sitting in your room listening to it late at night isn't the best way for an American white boy to appreciate it. Augustus Pablo and the Upsetters I dig, though.
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What I know and enjoy of reggae is restricted to pretty much Marley and Sublime. I've never heard other stuff that I like.
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A list of adjectives to describe Sean's opinion of Reggae:
Bland
Boring
Uninteresting
Repetitive
Futile
Dull
Pointless
The list goes on and on kids!
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I'm not a huge fan of reggae, but I dig it from every now and then. Bedouin Soundclash is amazing. I tend to like a lot of bands with a reggae influence...The Police, obviously, Sublime, and even a lot of ska bands (even though the earliest ska obviously predates reggae, the newer bands tend to take cues from the Reggae camp). Westbound Train and the Slackers are both really good reggae bands that take a lot of influence from the early days of reggae and ska music.
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Bedouin Soundclash makes me proud to be Canadian.
Desmond Dekker anyone?
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Reggae gets love from me, despite its association with douche bags, it's pretty solid. Black Uhuru and Steel Pulse are genuinely good.
Dub, though, dub's a tough one. I like most of the music that island has put out, but dub was always the toughest nut to crack. For a long time I couldn't escape the feeling that it was just ruining good songs. I got the Trojan Dub sets, vol 1 & 2, tried really hard to figure out what it was that made people like the Clash, Fugazi, and others found so great about it. I could see how some of the techniques were interesting and clever, but in and of itself, I couldn't find it that listenable. Perhaps its the fact that its club music and sitting in your room listening to it late at night isn't the best way for an American white boy to appreciate it. Augustus Pablo and the Upsetters I dig, though.
Augustus Pablo is pretty awesome!
For me, Reggae is dance music... as you say, it is better to listen to in a club, or on a decent sound system with proper bass. As for dub... have you heard much Sly and Robbie? Some of their stuff I don't much care for, but some of it is pure gold.
I'm not sure what you're saying about reggae's association with douche bags. People I meet at reggae/dub gigs tend to be some of the friendlier, more approachable people of any scene I've been to gigs of (also psy-trance people, for some reason, though I can't stand the music).
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I'm not sure what you're saying about reggae's association with douche bags. People I meet at reggae/dub gigs tend to be some of the friendlier, more approachable people of any scene I've been to gigs of (also psy-trance people, for some reason, though I can't stand the music).
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Maybe it's a northeast thing, or just unique to my situation, but when I was growing up, the only people I knew who were into reggae, besides myself and one or two friends who liked it because of its association with ska, were, if you will, trust-fund hippies. In Vermont, it was all the kids into Dave Matthews and Phish who wore Jamaican flags, those retarded beanie hats and Bob Marley t-shirts that talked about forming (or formed) really shitty reggae jam bands. In Rhode Island, it was much the same except they had this weird political slant on it, like they were reimagining themselves as Trenchtown residents in Barrington. Since then, I've come to associate a lot of reggae with those kids, clueless stoner rich kids that listen to and make shitty music. I realize that, worldwide, they're in the minority, but it is they who are the douchebags I'm referring to.
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See, the type of person I've usually known to listen to reggae is a different variety douchebag: the frat douchebag
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Once again I am forced to let YouTube make my arguments for me.
If you listen to this and don't come away humming the tune all day with a smile on your face, it may be that reggae just isn't for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WDxRZ8xnjM&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WDxRZ8xnjM&feature=related)
Or it might be that you have terrible taste in music. Who knows?
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We had to do an assignment a while ago on a single genre, and one of the people did reggae, and it was through that I got a decent grounding in the (non-Marley) great early stuff from Jamaica and the cooler more recent stuff. I still don't really listen to reggae but I've got a lot more respect for it and I realise there's a lot more to it than I thought.
Plus reggae drumming is mad fun.
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I'm not a groovy black man.
Therefore, I do not listen to reggae. Bob Marley is good for acoustic sing alongs, though.
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Bedouin Soundclash makes me slightly ashamed to be Canadian.
that being said I love reggae/dub music
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Maybe it's a northeast thing, or just unique to my situation, but when I was growing up, the only people I knew who were into reggae, besides myself and one or two friends who liked it because of its association with ska, were, if you will, trust-fund hippies. In Vermont, it was all the kids into Dave Matthews and Phish who wore Jamaican flags, those retarded beanie hats and Bob Marley t-shirts that talked about forming (or formed) really shitty reggae jam bands. In Rhode Island, it was much the same except they had this weird political slant on it, like they were reimagining themselves as Trenchtown residents in Barrington. Since then, I've come to associate a lot of reggae with those kids, clueless stoner rich kids that listen to and make shitty music. I realize that, worldwide, they're in the minority, but it is they who are the douchebags I'm referring to.
That's unfortunate. Over here (Australia) it's a pretty niche scene that either draws fans from the more electronic/DIY side of things (fans of jungle, dnb, ragga & dancehall) or those who're more into live bands. You do get the kind've people you're talking about occasionally, but they're definitely in the minority.
The bands we have doing the rounds are generally not stoned college jam bands, either. For example, one of the better local reggae acts is a bunch of old guys, who had an "illegal" immigrant as their MC (King Tide (http://www.myspace.com/kingtidesydney) if anyone wants to check them out. Their MC has since been deported). We also get a lot of reggae acts touring from New Zealand. New Zealand has an absolutely massive reggae scene for some reason.
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I'm not a groovy black man.
neither am i, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying lee perry occasionally.
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I'm not a groovy black man.
And with that attitude, you never will be!
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I've not really got much into reggae, but I have been getting slowly into dub over the past year or two. The initial cause, actually, was the GTA 3 soundtrack, and that album (Scientist Rids the Earth of the Evil Curse of the Vampires) is still far and away one of my favourite dub albums. I have also been listening to a good bit of Keith Hudson, King Tubby and the Aggrovators, among others.
Seriously though, how can you not be liking this shit?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTnvM34JMeM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTnvM34JMeM)
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Once again I am forced to let YouTube make my arguments for me.
If you listen to this and don't come away humming the tune all day with a smile on your face, it may be that reggae just isn't for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WDxRZ8xnjM&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WDxRZ8xnjM&feature=related)
Or it might be that you have terrible taste in music. Who knows?
A great reggae track on vinyl, its too amazing connections
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That's unfortunate. Over here (Australia) it's a pretty niche scene that either draws fans from the more electronic/DIY side of things (fans of jungle, dnb, ragga & dancehall) or those who're more into live bands.
That reminds me, there's an incredible Australian band called Blue King Brown. They're not really reggae as such, although they definitely incorporate elements of that along with salsa, afrobeat, blues and a whole bunch of other stuff. They are fucking amazing live.
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I reallllly enjoy dub. way more than anybody probably should. Reggae, I don't listen to as much mostly because I haven't had much incentive to seek it out.
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as long as no one speaks of reggaeton, we're good.
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We also get a lot of reggae acts touring from New Zealand. New Zealand has an absolutely massive reggae scene for some reason.
Yeah, a lot of people over here go apeshit for reggae, and I'm really not sure how to explain it either. The only connection I've made is that between my family and friends. A lot of reggae musicans are Maori/pacfic islander, and growing up in a maori family with maori friends there was a lot of love for reggae. For the most part I've realized from people that I know, who are into reggae, tend to be really laid back and cool guys. Who like to get mad stoned and surf, which is also why Jack Johnson is huge over here too.
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MANU CHAO.
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Stuff.
That's unfortunate. Over here (Australia) it's a pretty niche scene that either draws fans from the more electronic/DIY side of things (fans of jungle, dnb, ragga & dancehall) or those who're more into live bands. You do get the kind've people you're talking about occasionally, but they're definitely in the minority.
I have seen and met very few of these people, even in Vermont. As far as I can tell, it is a niche here, too. Although, slightly less of a niche due to Phish's influence and Vermont having one of the highest concentrations of hippies per square mile. What is not a niche here are bad punk and country jam bands.
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Listening to reggae is like Groundhog Day, the same elements repeated over and over again in different orders and combinations. It is probably the least diverse musical movement ever to have existed. Dub is a different issue, most American dub is godawful which might explain its wholesale rejection on this forum, and most of it's as repetitive as reggae but some of the minor genres which flourish in Britain like Dubcore or Dubstep are amongst the most the most rythmically diverse and fascinating works of music ever written, I respect them. Maybe the vocalless way the music is made is what makes so much more listenable, no lyrics about Rastafarianism (I don't want to hear about religion on an album I bought), weed, hos or gay men.
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The point at which I started liking dubstep and grime was also roughly about the time I started taking speed, ecstacy and MDMA more regularly.
Coincidence? Possibly not.
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ecstacy and MDMA
Um...I'm fairly certain these are the same thing. At least in the states.
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The point at which I started liking dubstep and grime was also roughly about the time I started taking speed, ecstacy and MDMA more regularly.
Coincidence? Possibly not.
That's the best argument for drugs I've ever heard.
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Um...I'm fairly certain these are the same thing. At least in the states.
Ecstacy is the pills, MDMA is the stuff you bomb or put up your nose. E tends to be more variable in strength and can contain other drugs, particularly other amphetamines.
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The way I saw it (and everyone I know, at least), was that if it didn't have MDMA in it, it wasn't E. But I see where you're coming from.
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straight up MDMA was always referred to as mali in my experiences.
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Listening to reggae is like Groundhog Day, the same elements repeated over and over again in different orders and combinations. It is probably the least diverse musical movement ever to have existed. Dub is a different issue, most American dub is godawful which might explain its wholesale rejection on this forum, and most of it's as repetitive as reggae but some of the minor genres which flourish in Britain like Dubcore or Dubstep are amongst the most the most rythmically diverse and fascinating works of music ever written, I respect them. Maybe the vocalless way the music is made is what makes so much more listenable, no lyrics about Rastafarianism (I don't want to hear about religion on an album I bought), weed, hos or gay men.
Sorry, but Dubstep is at least as repetitive as reggae, or dub. Also, a proportion of dubstep actually has MCs either in the track, or live, doing the same kind've ragga style vocals you dislike. Spaceape and Flow Dan, for example.
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Ive never really listened to much reggae but I often enjoy it if its playing wherever I am. Never enough to make me go "man I really need to own this song" though. Maybe one day but not yet.
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Let's go back to talking about drowning midgets.
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Man, that's old news. We should talk about drowning midgets who are on ecstasy
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We have the germ of a script for a cult movie on our hands here.
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No kidding. We need to get on this.
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If someone puts on a good reggae song, I'll listen to it and enjoy it. If someone puts on an entire album of reggae it had better be really good.
Also, the affinity between MDMA (which I've always heard referred to as "Molly," a la "Lucy" = acid) and dubstep is so strong you'd think it was on purpose. Oh wait. (Please note that it is very much a function of the level of bass output you have access to.)
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as long as no one speaks of reggaeton, we're good.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/TheHusseinSkank/B0002T7YRG01_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
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I really like Reggae, It's good chillout music. Maybe your just listening to the wrong stuff, like any genre there is gonna be a lot of bollocks floating about.
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Man, that's old news. We should talk about drowning midgets who are on ecstasy
I like the way you think.
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That reminds me, there's an incredible Australian band called Blue King Brown. They're not really reggae as such, although they definitely incorporate elements of that along with salsa, afrobeat, blues and a whole bunch of other stuff. They are fucking amazing live.
I caught them at the west coast blues and roots a couple of years ago when it was a one day thing. They are goddamn excellent live. They just have so much energy. Was a pretty great surprise since I don't think I had heard of them by then.
As far as reggae goes, I think I'm with Khar when it comes to how I found it. I remember playing gta3 and just sitting in some car somewhere out of the way and just listening to the reggae station all through. I'm glad they've kept it through all the games since (forgive me I'm wrong about 4, I haven't played it yet).
Some time after that I have a memory of a great weekend afternoon one summer, driving my old car down to my then girlfriend's house. It was hot and still and clear and my car was playing nice and driving really comfortably. On the radio RTRfm had this show that was just playing first-wave ska all afternoon.
I have a single cd that falls properly under reggae-and-things-immediately-similar, it's some compilation of King Tubby who as far as I know was the guy who built dub. I listen to it more than I would expect.
Oh yeah, and someone posted Merzdub by Merzbow and Jamie Saft in the mediafire thread I while back. I don't know if I said it then or not, but thankyou so much whoever you were. Imagine Merzbow making a dub record on one of his on days, it's essentially that.
I am pretty open to reggae. It's also a fun word to type.
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Black Uhuru are playing in my town in 2 weeks. I think I'm gonna go.
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Man I got all excited to go for a bike ride while listening to Upsetters 14 Dub Blackboard Jungle but the seat on my bike is broken. :x
What I am trying to say is dub is awesome to listen to when you want to go for a bike ride on a sunny day all swervin' down the road.
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I reallllly enjoy dub. way more than anybody probably should. Reggae, I don't listen to as much mostly because I haven't had much incentive to seek it out.
This is basically what I think.
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I like reggae but a lot of the time people claim that Bob Marley is all the reggae there is. This kid in my class is all like "ZOMG REGGAE TYM!" But the only reaosn he says that is because his parents listen to Bob Marley. None of them has heard of Peter Tosh, Sublime, or anybody else.
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I like reggae but a lot of the time people claim that Bob Marley is all the reggae there is. This kid in my class is all like "ZOMG REGGAE TYM!" But the only reaosn he says that is because his parents listen to Bob Marley. None of them has heard of Peter Tosh, Sublime, or anybody else.
extremely true, everyone that claims to be a fan of reggae today listens to bob, or even some of his sons. not many people truly see that there is alot mor than bob marley out there in the reggae genre. if any of you are like this you gotta listen to bands like cocoa tea, steel pulse, stephen marley(my favorite of the brothers), buhu banton, some sublime, maybe even a little matisyahu, and definately peter tosh
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Matisyahu? Seriously? Maybe I'm missing something, of the several times someone has told me to listen to him, I have never found much of anything substance worthy, and that he's mostly coasting on the fact that he's dressed like a rabbi. Maybe I'm just cynical, though.
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Matisyahu? Seriously? Maybe I'm missing something, of the several times someone has told me to listen to him, I have never found much of anything substance worthy, and that he's mostly coasting on the fact that he's dressed like a rabbi. Maybe I'm just cynical, though.
Um, he's Jewish so he has all and any right to dress in that manner.
as long as no one speaks of reggaeton, we're good.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/TheHusseinSkank/B0002T7YRG01_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
Eugene Hütz is pure ownage!
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Matisyahu? Seriously? Maybe I'm missing something, of the several times someone has told me to listen to him, I have never found much of anything substance worthy, and that he's mostly coasting on the fact that he's dressed like a rabbi. Maybe I'm just cynical, though.
Matisyahu dresses as a rabi because hes jewish, is there any reason he shouldnt?
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Whether or not he's jewish does not change what I was actually trying to say: That the people I know who listen to him mostly listen to him because of the "oh dude it's so cool a rabbi doing reggae lulz" and aside from that I have found his music pretty mediocre.
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He's cool but yeah the whole jew thing basically is the whole reason some people are attracted to him. It's not as miraculous (Spelling?) as most people think. I do like his music at times though for sure.
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Reggae yes! tho to be honest i prefer ska and ska like beats. THe Slackers are the single most underrated reggae/ska/rocksteady band in the last 10 years..