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Title: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Faker on 01 Jun 2008, 05:09
So, we all getting excited about the planned Donnie Darko sequel?

I plan to celebrate this news by shooting myself in the face!

More info here (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=22654).
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Inlander on 01 Jun 2008, 05:56
What the fuck?? This is one of the worst movie ideas I've ever heard of.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: axerton on 01 Jun 2008, 06:04
Wow, just wow...

Donny Darko was good, it wasn't as great as al it's obsessive fans said, but nor was it as bad as a lot of other people said, but just...why can't anyone leave well enough alone? why do we have to have this modern thing of squeezing every last cent out of an idea before you let it go?
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: RedLion on 01 Jun 2008, 09:50
Jesus, why can't something just stand alone as a single project? Why does everything have to milked and turned into a cash cow?

I'm just waiting for a sequel to Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Lines on 01 Jun 2008, 12:19
I thought it was a bad idea and then I read the article and now it seems like a Very Bad Idea. Donnie Darko is a movie that has a definite end and stands on it's own marvelously. Just Say No to Sequels.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: KvP on 01 Jun 2008, 12:55
Elizabeth Berkeley is set to star. Maybe we'll get lucky and she'll get another sex scene with Kyle Maclachlan (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/160806/pool_love_scene_from_showgirls/).

Ah, Showgirls. Will we ever see a better film?
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: JediBendu on 01 Jun 2008, 14:13
I thought the first one was a pretty pathetic film in the first place. This'll have to be pretty terrible to be worse. Though I'm sure it can accomplish it. I don't see this getting a notable theatrical release either.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Tom on 01 Jun 2008, 15:27
Just Say No to Sequels.

Not all sequels, what about Iron Man, Indian Jones and James Bond?
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Ikrik on 01 Jun 2008, 15:36
Considering those films are built to be part of a franchise I don't think they count.  A sequel to Donnie Darko just seems like them trying to make a whole bunch of money off of a movie that was either amazing or a flaming pile of garbage (depending on who you talk to)  If they're doing it so the director can make a bunch of money to make better films then it's not a huge deal.  Look at Jean-Pierre Jeunet.  The man makes AMAZING films, City of Lost Children is just absolutely mindblowing.  And yet to make a bunch more money to continue making films he made the monstrosity that was Alien: Resurrection. 
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 01 Jun 2008, 15:44
Didn't he direct Amélie also?  Because that movie was very good.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Ikrik on 01 Jun 2008, 15:56
I totally should have put that point in....because yes he did, and yeah it was amazing.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: est on 01 Jun 2008, 18:50
Why would you bring this to my attention?  Do you hate me?

Jesus fucking christ, what the fuck is wrong with movie people.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 01 Jun 2008, 23:00
Okay, if I ever get the chance to direct a sequel to a movie that was clearly meant to be stand-alone... well I'd probably do it. Unless I had already managed to hit it big I'd probably take anything to direct (except porn, I know someone's gonna say it) that I could get my hands on, even if I was being a hack. Money is money. The film industry is an industry just as much as it is an outlet through which a particular form of art is made. More, even. The majority of people are in movies to make money. I want to be in movies, I'm hoping to be able to make a career in them, at least enough to live off of. Creating masterpieces of film is all well and good, but if you can't get the bills paid... I'm sure in this case its no different, someone wants to get paid and this time around the IP is a casualty of business.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Inlander on 02 Jun 2008, 06:30
The thing that makes me uncomfortable about the "film industry is just a business" argument is the phenomenal amounts of money being spent, in combination with what seems to be an increasingly low strike-rate in terms of commercial returns. So basically, there's this massive industry which spends a large amount of its time spending what I feel, frankly, are obscene amounts of money, making products that by and large few people actually seem to want. I mean, I'll be genuinely surprised if this movie we're talking about here makes its money back - but I'll also be gobsmacked if that failure makes the industry thing twice about making another pile of dogshit. I know it's a bit like comparing apples and oranges, but it makes me feel almost angry that millions and millions and millions of dollars are squandered in such a way, when with even a fraction of that amount so many of the world's problems could be significantly eased. It makes me think that just maybe society's priorities are a little bit fucked up!
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Lines on 02 Jun 2008, 07:20
Just Say No to Sequels.

Not all sequels, what about Iron Man, Indian Jones and James Bond?

That's more of a series to me. (I hate James Bond, though. And the last Indy was supposedly not very good.)
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: rynne on 02 Jun 2008, 09:05
Considering what a mess Richard Kelly made of DD: Director’s Cut, I don’t know if him not being involved in the sequel makes me feel better or worse about it.  Either way, it’s still a bad idea.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: KvP on 02 Jun 2008, 13:12
The thing that makes me uncomfortable about the "film industry is just a business" argument is the phenomenal amounts of money being spent, in combination with what seems to be an increasingly low strike-rate in terms of commercial returns. So basically, there's this massive industry which spends a large amount of its time spending what I feel, frankly, are obscene amounts of money, making products that by and large few people actually seem to want. I mean, I'll be genuinely surprised if this movie we're talking about here makes its money back - but I'll also be gobsmacked if that failure makes the industry thing twice about making another pile of dogshit. I know it's a bit like comparing apples and oranges, but it makes me feel almost angry that millions and millions and millions of dollars are squandered in such a way, when with even a fraction of that amount so many of the world's problems could be significantly eased. It makes me think that just maybe society's priorities are a little bit fucked up!
Actually, I think that's one of the reasons why Alan Moore is so opposed to having his properties developed into films. And he's right, really. $20 million is cheap by studio standards. Think about that.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 02 Jun 2008, 20:59
You bring up a really good point Inlander, the majority of Hollywood movies do not make any returns. in the modern model of Hollywood, Large studios rely mainly on a few big blockbuster movies every year to make back all of the money they lose on smaller and less lucrative projects. In a way, the movie industry is spending a huge amount of money just to sort of feed itself internally, giving out money to people who make a living on the big guys' payroll in the hopes that they might be able to produce a blockbuster if they get any good working on smaller movies, or even the sweeter taste of a surprise hit that cost a lot less to make.

Of course, I'm really not aiming to be a part of that system. This is why I'm sort of rejecting the idea that Hollywood or New York is the place to be if you want to make it big, and instead when I graduate I'm going to head back down to Texas to see if I can get a job doing something in Austin.

And I also feel like its necessary to point out that I didn't say that the film industry is "just a business". I said its a hybrid of business and art, art cannot reliably sustain itself without business and catering to mass audiences, and the industry gets stale without a constant influx of art.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: IronOxide on 02 Jun 2008, 21:32
Meanwhile, it seems that Hollywood has good success with films that don't match the 'blockbuster' ideal. If I'm not mistaken, one of the highest grossing films in recent history was Juno, a movie that cost about the amount of Jason Bateman and a fat suit (6.5 Million). The strange thing is that the box office has generally spoken on the issue that good movies (barring some kind of issue with release timing) perform well and bad ones do not. However, that seems irrelevant in the executive environment, flooding the market with lowest-common-denominator trash.

It's nothing to get worked up about though, I'm just going to forget about the industry by watching Norbit on HBO.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: est on 02 Jun 2008, 23:11
See, but the thing is that Juno was a good movie.  You don't have to pay a lot of money to make a good movie, you just have to want to not pump out a stupid, pointless, shit movie for the sake of putting out something.

Restraint is a word that Hollywood needs to become acquainted with.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Dimmukane on 03 Jun 2008, 07:04
Agreed.  They need to have more discerning executives.  I'm fine with some LCD stuff, but recently it's been like a landslide.  They need to recognize shit before they step in it, kinda thing.  Like Hottie and the Nottie/Blonde Ambition/Major Movie Star (hurr hurr) all getting about zero at the box office because they sucked so bad but still costing around 10 million or so to make.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: valley_parade on 03 Jun 2008, 07:22
I thought this thread would be about how they're going to obviously need to make a sequel for the upcoming Hong Kong Phooey movie.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Scruffy on 03 Jun 2008, 07:23
So, we all getting excited about the planned Donnie Darko sequel?

I plan to celebrate this news by shooting myself in the face!

More info here (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=22654).

Agreed............................
I....I can't find the crying smiley............... wait......  :cry:
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Phil73805 on 03 Jun 2008, 16:11
Are we honestly suprised by this? When hollywood are churning out the sequels at an unprecendented rate. However, I will hold off shooting myself in the face until the next Pirates of the Carribean sequel...
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: axerton on 03 Jun 2008, 20:29
In my opinion Pirates of the Caribbean could have had great sequels if they had followed the james bond/indiana jones style of completely separate stories with no overarching plot, and no need to have seen any of the others, it could have been great, and it could have gone on practically forever. But instead they chose to follow the same ill-fated route as the matrix and pretend that there was always a grand trilogy planned, and surprisingly enough they failed dismally.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Sox on 04 Jun 2008, 03:51
I'm pretty sure that when they cast signed the contracts for the first movie, they signed on for two sequels. It's something I recall reading in a review when the first movie came out.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Eris on 04 Jun 2008, 04:44
No, the script for the first movie was written as a stand alone deal. Then when they realised how big it was, they hired everyone back up for the other two, so the writers had to work out a way to make it look like they meant for it to be three all along. They failed to a degree.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Ikrik on 04 Jun 2008, 07:15
In my opinion Pirates of the Caribbean could have had great sequels if they had followed the james bond/indiana jones style of completely separate stories with no overarching plot, and no need to have seen any of the others, it could have been great, and it could have gone on practically forever. But instead they chose to follow the same ill-fated route as the matrix and pretend that there was always a grand trilogy planned, and surprisingly enough they failed dismally.

I think one of the main reasons why Pirates failed was because they kept pretty much the same cast for all three movies.  When they brought Barbossa back I knew that I wasn't going to watch the third movie.  The whole seperate stories thing might have worked if they had kept Johnny Depp and gotten rid of Orlando Bloom.  And I'm pretty sure the first was released standalone because it ties up everything nicely.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Cartilage Head on 04 Jun 2008, 10:10
 Damn Daveigh Chase got attractive as heck. I'm 18, so I am allowed to think so.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: spidergland on 04 Jun 2008, 10:22
Just because you like David Lynch doesn't mean you can be a pervert.

We live in a day when anything that tops the charts gets the green light for a sequel.  Hell, there's even talk of a Sex and the City sequel (http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2225318,00.html).  *le sigh*
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 04 Jun 2008, 10:38
So how do you explain the Streetfighter movie sequel and the reboot of Mortal Kombat?
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: benji on 04 Jun 2008, 10:52
Satan. Satan explains everything.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: KvP on 04 Jun 2008, 12:21
reboot of Mortal Kombat?
Wait wut.

They're getting KMFDM for another bumpin' soundtrack, right?

RIGHT?
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Cartilage Head on 04 Jun 2008, 14:23
 They are completely ignoring the events of Annihilation and trying again with Mortal Kombat. I think it will be awesome.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Lines on 04 Jun 2008, 20:39
GOOD. Annihilation suuuucked, but I was always a fan of the first. (I haven't seen it in years though, but I still think the theme is awesome.)
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Cartilage Head on 04 Jun 2008, 23:06
Annihilation may be incredibly cheesey and badly written but it is by no means bad. It is extremely entertaining.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Lines on 05 Jun 2008, 10:07
Then this is where we will just have to differ. I didn't find it entertaining at all.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Dissy on 05 Jun 2008, 10:43
I know the driector of Donnie Darko is all kinds of pissed about this sequel.  I didn't like Donnie Darko in the first place, so... meh.


Here'es some interesting sequels/remakes for you all:

Robocop Remake (and a new Robocop)
The Last Starfighter Remake (I cannot put words to describe how much I hate this)
Conan the Barbarian Remake (but what about the classic scene with Arnie decking a camel, and breaking its jaw)
Meatballs Remake  (yes, the classic Bill Murray camp movie, the bastards)
Short Circuit Remake (Johnny 5 rebuilt?  Again?)
Indy 5 (And after this, The Adventures of Mutt Jones)
Pirates 4 (yeah...)
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Phil73805 on 05 Jun 2008, 12:21
Am I the only one who thinks that Hollywood have run out of ideas and are desperately scrambling to find new 'product'? Sequels, remakes and just plain awful films seems to be their only produce. I used to be a real movie buff, went to the cinema at least once a week, now I go maybe twice a year! Being a big comic book fan, the big names always call me from cinema retirement but beyond that, nothing.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Jackie Blue on 05 Jun 2008, 12:45
Am I the only one who thinks that Hollywood have run out of ideas

Yes.  Nobody has ever said this before in the history of cinema.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Dimmukane on 05 Jun 2008, 13:10

Conan the Barbarian Remake (but what about the classic scene with Arnie decking a camel, and breaking its jaw)


The thing with this is, even though the first one was a really good movie, it didn't have much to do with the actual Conan literature.  It was basically using names of people and places from the books for the movie.  Conan is supposed to be more of a Celt than anything else, for instance.  Whereas other movies based on books take a lot from the source material, this took barely anything, so it's not really what I'd call a remake, since they're not basing it off the first one.  Kind of a 'Batman Begins' type situation. 
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: rynne on 05 Jun 2008, 16:42
Am I the only one who thinks that Hollywood have run out of ideas

Yes. (http://www.google.com/search?q=hollywood+%2B%22run+out+of+ideas%22)



(No.)
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 05 Jun 2008, 16:48
Here'es some interesting sequels/remakes for you all:

Robocop Remake (and a new Robocop)
The Last Starfighter Remake (I cannot put words to describe how much I hate this)
Conan the Barbarian Remake (but what about the classic scene with Arnie decking a camel, and breaking its jaw)
Meatballs Remake  (yes, the classic Bill Murray camp movie, the bastards)
Short Circuit Remake (Johnny 5 rebuilt?  Again?)
Indy 5 (And after this, The Adventures of Mutt Jones)
Pirates 4 (yeah...)

that's the least offensive remake/sequel/whatever list i've ever seen. we had a thread a while back that had a much much worse list in it which included The Creature from the Black Lagoon and a bunch of others that just shouldn't be messed with. someone who's good at searching should find it so we can all be enraged at it again.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Jackie Blue on 05 Jun 2008, 17:24
I seriously don't see how a remake of Last Starfighter is a bad thing.  Even seeing it in the theater as a kid I thought it was a goofy, cheezy movie and I fail to see how a remake could be particularly horrible.  It was like Karate Kid in space.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: WriterofAllWrongs on 05 Jun 2008, 17:30
oh are you serious

How does a group of people that listen to and enjoy Tears for Fears have so much influence over Hollywood?
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Cartilage Head on 05 Jun 2008, 21:24
Then this is where we will just have to differ. I didn't find it entertaining at all.

 How much do you enjoy watching people kick ass? If the answer is not a whole lot, then fine. If the answer is a lot, then you have lost me.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: RedLion on 05 Jun 2008, 22:00
I hate James Bond, though.

WHAT
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Lines on 06 Jun 2008, 07:10
How much do you enjoy watching people kick ass? If the answer is not a whole lot, then fine. If the answer is a lot, then you have lost me.

The first one was so much better, though! I just thought the story behind the second one was really dumb! And they switched actors for Lord Rayden and it was a bad switch.

WHAT

Casino Royale was the only one I actually liked. The rest of them I can do without, because I find them boring and I hate the token objectified hot chick.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: CursedMortivore on 06 Jun 2008, 08:47
Casino Royale was the only one I actually liked. The rest of them I can do without, because I find them boring and I hate the token objectified hot chick.

So let me get this straight. You find the rest of the James Bonds movies boring, whilst this one has an hour-and-a-half-long scene of them playing some fucking poker?!

I think you must misunderstand the meaning of boring. Is English your native language?

P.S. - Only busting balls with that last line.
P.P.S. - Or am I?
P.P.P.S - No, I really am.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Lines on 06 Jun 2008, 09:46
There was other shit going on in that scene. Yes English is my native language. Also, I don't have balls to bust, because I'm a girl. Also, I honestly do not give a shit about James Bond. Get over it.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Dissy on 06 Jun 2008, 09:49
Casino Royale was an excellent movie, leagues better than almost all the other James Bond movies.  I love Goldeneye.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Phil73805 on 06 Jun 2008, 10:29
Casino Royale was an excellent movie, leagues better than almost all the other James Bond movies.  I love Goldeneye.

Very true, the older ones with Sean Connery and Roger Moore were ok but the more recent ones went from fiction to science fiction and became all about (rather obvious) product placement. "Gosh Moneypenny, look at the extreeeme closeup of my sexy new watch. Now I must leave in my sexier new (stealth?!) car..." hmmm subtle(?)

Don't even get me started on the evil media mogul film...oooh fear him  :evil:  And the titles became more and more awful "The World never dies", "Tomorrow is not enough" & "Die Later That Afternoon" :D I always found them rather random. Take a few dramatic words mix randomly and bake for 40 minutes...

Casino Royale was much much closer to Fleming's Bond.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: spidergland on 06 Jun 2008, 10:31
I've never been that much of a Bond fan, but I do have to admit to having a soft spot for the Timothy Dalton ones.  He was badass.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Jackie Blue on 06 Jun 2008, 11:08
And the titles became more and more awful

Are you seriously defending Quantum of Solace as being better than the Dalton-era names?  Every time I see it I think they're talking about a new Castlevania game!

The only bond movies I really, really like are the Roger Moore ones.  He brought a dignity to the role, and I don't recall them being nearly as woman-objectifying as the Connery movies.  And while I like Connery in a lot of roles, for some reason I just never gelled with his Bond portrayal.  Not to say there weren't great movies in some of his, but as a whole, as I said, I prefer the Moore run.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 06 Jun 2008, 11:50
Connery was probably the worst bond.

i mean, i liked his movies just the same (pretty much) but he was just not good as James Bond (he can't even pretend to be British, for starters).
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: CursedMortivore on 06 Jun 2008, 13:27
There was other shit going on in that scene. Yes English is my native language. Also, I don't have balls to bust, because I'm a girl. Also, I honestly do not give a shit about James Bond. Get over it.

I have no problem with you not giving a shit about James Bond. Really, I am not really fond of them either. But I just take issue with Casino Royale as a movie, mostly because of the retarded long poker scene that was just a masturbatory aid for people who get their rocks off on watching Texas Hold'em. And I found it an overall boring movie.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Ikrik on 06 Jun 2008, 14:17
I think that Moore had the best Bond Movies (Moonraker FTW) but he was, by far, the worst Bond.  I love Daniel Craig as Bond because he's so much less annoying than any of his predecessors, that being said Casino Royale was great, but not as good as it could have been.  That poker scene was terrible.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Sox on 06 Jun 2008, 14:36
Moonraker's least worst scene isn't even comparable to the poker scene in Casino Royal. You guys must just have really short attention spans.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Lines on 06 Jun 2008, 17:20
I haven't seen it in a while, but I don't remember the poker scene being that bad. Usually, I remember these things.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: CursedMortivore on 06 Jun 2008, 20:11
Never saw Moonraker, or many other 007 movies really, so I'm just basing my opinion of Casino Royale off of what I saw, and I was mostly bored.

But on to other stuff, how 'bout that Hellboy 2? Looks awesome so far.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 06 Jun 2008, 20:24
Hellboy 2 actually does look really impressive, to the point where it will shit all over the first one, which, given that the first one was acceptable at best, probably isn't difficult. I think it probably lies with the fact that Del Toro is a really good director when he is on form and only ok when he is not. At the very least, the art direction of the creatures in Hellboy 2 is loudly reminiscent of Pan's Labyrinth, which can only be a good thing. Basically, I am excited for this film.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 06 Jun 2008, 21:43
And is Tom Cruise the main villain or am I just hallucinating? Because he looks a lot like zombified Lestat to me, which just makes me want to watch Interview with a Vampire, which makes me want to hate on Queen of the Damned.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 06 Jun 2008, 21:47
Really? I was more reminded of Jeremy Irons in that terrible The Time Machine remake which, while pretty bad, at least had reasonable art direction.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: CursedMortivore on 06 Jun 2008, 21:55
I like the first Hellboy well enough, but this new one just looks gorram amazing. If it lives up to how it looks, I'll be pleasantly surprised. Between this, Iron Man, Batman: TDK, and possibly Hulk (big maybe on that last one), this could be the summer of good comic book movies. Y'know, if you ignore Wanted.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: spidergland on 07 Jun 2008, 01:34
Tommy, are you trying to tell me this man isn't egyptian???

(http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Reviews/Highlander/Images/Highlander-RamirezPromo.jpg)
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Muppet King on 07 Jun 2008, 08:43
Connery was probably the worst bond.

i mean, i liked his movies just the same (pretty much) but he was just not good as James Bond (he can't even pretend to be British, for starters).

He doesn't have to pretend to be British because he actually is British.


But seriously, Connery was among the better Bonds.  Dalton was so-so, Moore was okay, Lazenby was awful, Brosnan wasn't great (and never drove a single car in those movies, he never learned how to drive stick), and Craig is tolerable.

Casino Royale wasn't terrible, but I'd rather watch the original Casino Royale than sit through it again.

EDIT:  Re-fixed because I should not post in the morning.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Ikrik on 07 Jun 2008, 09:05
Tommy, are you trying to tell me this man isn't egyptian???

(http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Reviews/Highlander/Images/Highlander-RamirezPromo.jpg)

That's a stupid question, everyone KNOWS that Juan Sánchez Villa-Lobos Ramírez is egyptian, don't be insensitive.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 07 Jun 2008, 09:42
Connery was probably the worst bond.

i mean, i liked his movies just the same (pretty much) but he was just not good as James Bond (he can't even pretend to be British, for starters).

He doesn't have to pretend to be Scottish because he actually is Scottish.

Fixed.

Did you seriously do that? You're aware, I hope, that all people from the UK, including Scotland, are British. You probably meant to type 'English' originally but Tommy was right and by fixing his post so smugly you look like quite an ass.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Muppet King on 07 Jun 2008, 09:51
Fuck, you're right, sorry about that.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: spidergland on 07 Jun 2008, 11:43
Oh, I thought Muppet King was commenting on Sean Connery's enthusiasm for Scottish independence.

Anyway, back on topic.  Odds on S. Darko going straight to DVD?  With Chris Fisher's resume, pretty high I'd reckon.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Cartilage Head on 07 Jun 2008, 14:55
 I want to hear Sean Connery say "Mississippi."
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Phil73805 on 07 Jun 2008, 16:32
I like the first Hellboy well enough, but this new one just looks gorram amazing. If it lives up to how it looks, I'll be pleasantly surprised. Between this, Iron Man, Batman: TDK, and possibly Hulk (big maybe on that last one), this could be the summer of good comic book movies. Y'know, if you ignore Wanted.

'Gorram amazing'? A Firefly fan perchance? I'm a big fan of the series.

Yes, Hellboy 2 does look phenomenal and because Del Toro works closely with Mike Mignola it really stays true to the atmosphere of the comics. I really can't wait to see it! As for the Hulk, I've never seen him as a super hero, more a severe schizophrenia sufferer with some fairly major psychotic episodes. As for Batman: TDK, I'm looking forward to another great movie!
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: CursedMortivore on 07 Jun 2008, 17:47
Yes, I am quite the fan of Firefly, and I frequently use 'gorram' when I don't feel like breaking out more harsh curse words.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Ikrik on 09 Jun 2008, 18:11
Oh man we're bringing that up again? 

I don't think I've ever said Gorram or any other "fictional" swearwords.  Although I'm sure every one of us has at one time or the other shouted out at the top of their lungs "KAAAAAAHHNN!!!!!!!!!!"
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Dissy on 09 Jun 2008, 19:13
Although I'm sure every one of us has at one time or the other shouted out at the top of their lungs "KAAAAAAHHNN!!!!!!!!!!"

My USS Enterprise says that (in William Shanter's voice), so I switch it to demo, and play that a lot.  I makes me happy.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Jackie Blue on 09 Jun 2008, 23:28
My favourite quote of all time from Firely (well, I think it's from Serenity, actually) is when Kayleigh says "I haven't had anything 'twixt my nethers don't run on batteries in months!"

I love the language they used.  Almost as much as the language in Deadwood.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: spidergland on 09 Jun 2008, 23:50
I'm sure every one of us has at one time or the other shouted out at the top of their lungs "KAAAAAAHHNN!!!!!!!!!!"

Star Trek II played at my student cinema a few months back on 70mm.  Now there was a sequel I could get excited about.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: axerton on 24 Jun 2008, 01:35
minor res because I've just found out about some absolute craptastic sequels coming out within the next few years.

Shrek 4 and 5 + a puss in boots spin off
I, robot 2
I am legend 2
Terminator 4
Transformers 2
Ghost Rider 2
Underworld 3
Sin City 2 and 3
(tentatively) Spider Man 4

But I think the worst would have to be:
The Italian Job 2. Working title: the Brazilian Job
Seriously when a friend told me about that one my reaction was "no way, that's a damn prono like 'the porn identity' ect," but according to IMDB it's a real movie in the works.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Dimmukane on 24 Jun 2008, 06:23
Shrek 4 and 5 + a puss in boots spin off
I, robot 2
I am legend 2
Terminator 4
Transformers 2
Ghost Rider 2
Underworld 3
Sin City 2 and 3
(tentatively) Spider Man 4
The Brazilian Job

Ghost Rider 2

Ghost Rider


EVERYBODY PANIC.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Thy Dungeonman on 24 Jun 2008, 07:54
Actually, Terminator 4 won't be craptastic. Christian Bale is John Connor. It can't be bad.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Dissy on 24 Jun 2008, 10:40
DIMM'S PANIC ATTACK.

I'm still waiting on the Daredevil sequel.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Sox on 24 Jun 2008, 11:05

Ghost Rider


EVERYBODY PANIC.

I standby my assertion that Ghostrider was fantastic. There isn't a single movie I saw at the cinema that had me laughing so hard. The fact that I found the movie so entertaining seemed to entertain everybody else too.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: KvP on 24 Jun 2008, 11:19
You need to see The Happening.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: MusicScribbles on 24 Jun 2008, 12:48
Nobody needs to see The Happening. The twist is entertaining enough.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: RedLion on 24 Jun 2008, 16:46
I think that Moore had the best Bond Movies (Moonraker FTW) but he was, by far, the worst Bond.  I love Daniel Craig as Bond because he's so much less annoying than any of his predecessors, that being said Casino Royale was great, but not as good as it could have been.  That poker scene was terrible.

Moonraker? That was one of the most lackluster Bond movies there's ever been. It was nothing but a sad cash-in on the Star Wars craze of the day. It wasn't as pathetic as "A View to A Kill," though, I'll give it that (although I have a soft spot for that flick, as Christopher Walken is brilliant in it...as he is in everything he's ever been in. He's Christopher Walken!)

My favorite Bond movie has always been Goldeneye. Pierce Brosnan just embodies what Bond should be to me. The Dalton movies have always been lambasted, but I really like him as an actor, and License to Kill has always been another favorite of mine. It's very different from the regular Bond movie. It completely does away with the tongue-in-cheek humor. It's dark and it's kind of brutal. It's a very welcome change from the Moore movies, which increasingly became a self-parody of the series.

Also, have you guys criticizing the poker scene ever read the books? Fleming going on and on and on with gambling scenes in the book. Casino Royale was merciful in the shortness of the scene.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: KvP on 24 Jun 2008, 20:52
I wouldn't take issue with the poker scenes for their length so much as the wanton ridiculousness of the hands being played, and their regularity.

Also, they were sorta boring.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Kugai on 25 Jun 2008, 00:13
The big thing about Dalton's Bond was that after the Moore era, he brought back a harder edge to Bond.  Roger was an ok Bond for the way he portrayed him, but even he admitted he played him somewhat lighter and more for laughs (pun not intended) than Sean did.

i have seen Craig's Bond, and I think he may be a bit closer to what Sir Ian wanted in his MI5 agent.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: axerton on 25 Jun 2008, 01:59
yeah but what the author wanted in his character was basically the characterized version of his own penis extension.

Also view to a kill was awesome. Fight you, RedLion!
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 25 Jun 2008, 09:25
I'm still waiting on the Daredevil sequel.

Not happening. Since the terrible reception of the first one Affleck has said he doesn't want to do a sequel and I reckon Fox probably want to let it die as well.

I standby my assertion that Ghostrider was fantastic. There isn't a single movie I saw at the cinema that had me laughing so hard. The fact that I found the movie so entertaining seemed to entertain everybody else too.

And yet you give me shit for liking AVPR?
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Sox on 26 Jun 2008, 05:37
Ghost Rider is still leagues above AvPR. It has everything that AvPR doesn't have! A plot, a cast, special effects, ridiculous stunts, God of Moustaches, Nic Cage...
AvPR would have been worth watching if it had Sam Elliot and Nic Cage with flaming skulls riding up the side of builds on flaming motorcycles and zombie horses.

Ghost Rider was gracefully bad. It was almost beautiful, like a slow motion train wreck. AvPR was a fat man being hit by a taxi and exploding, sending a shower of guts all over the place. It was just plain ugly.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 26 Jun 2008, 06:03
AVPR didn't try to have any of those things. Ghostrider did and it still sucked. At least in AVPR you get to see all the really annoying people die.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Dimmukane on 26 Jun 2008, 06:42
And a lot of aliens skullfucking humans.  I'm still amazed to this day the amount of semen that went down those people's throats.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 26 Jun 2008, 09:01
That just goes to show you that Ghostrider would have been better if there was a scene in which Nicholas Cage forced like six eggs into Eva Mendes' mouth and down into her stomach.


...Too much?
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Dimmukane on 26 Jun 2008, 09:15
Hey man, I would've enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: jill the ripper on 26 Jun 2008, 17:19
They are also making a Lost Boys sequel. You know, that 80's vamptastic flick with the kickass soundtrack?
That, and it is going straight to video.
Both the Corey's are in it. With SURFER VAMPIRES. Need I say more?
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Johnny C on 26 Jun 2008, 17:31
Let's play Rank!

Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: jill the ripper on 26 Jun 2008, 17:39

The Italian Job 2. Working title: the Brazilian Job
Is that like a Brazilian wax?
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Tom on 26 Jun 2008, 18:05
Let's play Rank!

  • Connery
  • Craig
  • Dalton
  • Lazenby
  • Brosnan
  • Moore

Oh please, Brosnan is by far the worst.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 26 Jun 2008, 19:35
Are you kidding? Lazenby is absolutely atrocious. He's easily the worst.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Kugai on 26 Jun 2008, 19:38
Actually, the original Italian Job film was supposed to have a sequal which would have seen Caine and the crew trying to get the money back off the mob after the bus finally goes over the cliff.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Sox on 28 Jun 2008, 07:00
Let's play Rank!

  • Connery
  • Craig
  • Dalton
  • Lazenby
  • Brosnan
  • Moore

This is easy. You work by track record. Good to bad movies ratio in their simplest forms and turned into into a scale. It works like this.
Craig
Dalton
Lazenby
Brosnan
Connery
Moore

There's waffles. Of course, there's always waffles. You had good Bonds in movies filled with bullshit, and bad Bonds in decent movies. This method is based on consistency, so it favours actors that had the fewest movies. This perhaps puts Lazenby a little higher than he should be, I can't be sure, I haven't seen his movie in years.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Surgoshan on 28 Jun 2008, 08:28
That method doesn't favor the actors with fewer films; if Lazenby's one movie had sucked balls, he'd be at the bottom of the list.  It all works out.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 28 Jun 2008, 21:39
Lazenby's Bond was clumsy, oafish, unattractive, and the antithesis of suave. In other words, he's no Bond.
Title: Re: Exciting Sequel News
Post by: Surgoshan on 28 Jun 2008, 23:22
Lazenby's Bond was clumsy, oafish, unattractive, and the antithesis of suave. In other words, he's no Bond.

On the other hand, you might recall the fat, ugly dumbass who tripped on a vagina.

Sometimes fiction upsets us... perhaps THE AUTHOR wanted us to appreciate random bullshit.