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Title: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: DavidGrohl on 01 Aug 2008, 16:48: I'm looking for a few old games to play on my Macbook (emulated hopefully). Freeware is a plus!

The (pre-XP) is just to signify that the games are supposed to be older. DOS, Win95, maybe early XP.

So far I have Bards Tale, 7th Guest, and Conquest of the New World! Throw our your favorite!
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: KvP on 01 Aug 2008, 17:00: uh... The best games you can buy, or you can torrent OSX ISOs if you're really desperate. If you don't already have Blizzard games you should snag a few.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: DavidGrohl on 01 Aug 2008, 17:17: I'm not really limited by operating system (or money). I'm limited by my graphics card. That's not really the reason for the thread, though. I've played most newer games, and most of them have lost the fun gamplay somewhere between the graphics and their massive advertising campaigns.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: nkb.tamoot on 01 Aug 2008, 20:13: Try Gizmos and Gadgets! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gizmos_&_Gadgets!)
Just be careful trying to get it to work. If you don't have a floppy drive you'll have a terrible time setting it all up
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Melodic on 01 Aug 2008, 20:53: FALLOUT.
DUH.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Jackie Blue on 02 Aug 2008, 00:53: The only correct answer to this question is

WASTELAND YOU CUNTS
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Spluff on 02 Aug 2008, 00:55: Baldur's Gate I & II
Planescape: Torment
Fallout I & II
Deus Ex
System Shock 2
Half Life
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Melodic on 02 Aug 2008, 01:55: Or, you could go betatest the new Quake web game.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Covetous on 02 Aug 2008, 02:37: When I was younger I had a favorit game from the win 95-era. Lords of the Realm II. The III wasent nearly as good. It's a real time strategy, administritiv, turn based game.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: CamusCanDo on 02 Aug 2008, 05:53: When I was four my dad brought home a computer gaming system which played games through cassette tapes. I have no idea what it was, I only remember thinking it was the shit because it had a Ghost Busters game.

So probably that?
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: clockworkjames on 02 Aug 2008, 08:17: Warsow mu'fuckers!
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: imagist42 on 02 Aug 2008, 10:44: Descent: Freespace: The Great War and Freespace II
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Jackie Blue on 02 Aug 2008, 11:23: Wizardry: Bane of the Cosmic Forge and Crusader's of the Dark Savant. The former is the first computer RPG I beat without any outside assistance at all (yes, I broke down and bought the strategy guide for Wasteland, hey, I was like 13 ok).

Also, oh man, The Magic Candle. That was an insanely deep, vast yet still fun RPG.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 03 Aug 2008, 10:38: Heroes of Might and Magic III
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 03 Aug 2008, 15:30: Thief: Deadly Shadows is a great old game that has somehow managed to withstand the test of time and still be great. you should get it.

too bad my stupid, futuristic computer can't play it.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Be My Head on 03 Aug 2008, 15:49: Any of the classic Lucasarts adventures

LOOM
Monkey Island 1-3
Sam and Max Hit The Road
Full Throttle
The Dig
Maniac Mansion
Zak Mcracken and The Alien Mindbenders

And other genres...

There's Also Warcraft 1 & 2 as well as Starcraft
Duke Nukem

I second Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, plus Icewind Dale 1 & 2 if you like that type of gameplay.

And, others, I'll leave it at there however.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Jackie Blue on 03 Aug 2008, 16:24: Icewind Dale (with the expansion installed) is the most fun dungeon romp ever made. Period.

The sequel was good too, but was a little too hard in unfair ways (hook horrors bluh) and I honestly thought the Third Edition rules didn't work very well in it.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: FireAarro on 04 Aug 2008, 05:42: Wacky Wheels
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 04 Aug 2008, 10:07: Carmageddon was a pretty awesome game too. espescially if you typed in "sexwithfish" to get unlimited time so you could just trash all the other cars and not have to worry about actually doing laps.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Leinad on 04 Aug 2008, 11:46: Oh man, Might and Magic rocked so hard. Also, Kohan: Immortal Sovereigns. And Sid Meier's: Gettysburg. Antietam sucked ball sack.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Stryc9Fuego on 04 Aug 2008, 13:31: Dwarf Fortress has a Mac port (http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/), if video card is your only holdout.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Nodaisho on 04 Aug 2008, 14:14: Ultimate Doom with an emulator for mouse look?

Quake 1?

Star wars: X-wing series?

Max Payne? It has a mac OS version, and the graphics are poor enough that you should be able to run it without difficulty if you can run say... the Quake 3 engine. And that game is just so much fun, it is like an art, seeing how many kills you can get in one dive between cover.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Jackie Blue on 04 Aug 2008, 14:18: The first Max Payne is the only "shoot things until they die" game I have tremendously enjoyed (unless you count Deus Ex). Great story and really fun gameplay/level design.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Nodaisho on 04 Aug 2008, 14:26: Yeah, there are some things I liked about the second game (regenerating bullet time, better accuracy, more weapons), but I missed how easy it was to die in the first one, and I liked how in the first one, the mooks couldn't aim for crap, felt more cinematic that way. I am still hoping for a third one, seems like Take Two would have wanted to be making a new one, what with the movie coming out, but I guess not.

The pair of grenade launching goons in the beginning of the final setting really pissed me off, though, until I could get it right.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Spluff on 05 Aug 2008, 04:00: Quote from: Be My Head on 03 Aug 2008, 15:49
Any of the classic Lucasarts adventures

Yes!
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: parm on 05 Aug 2008, 04:58: Diablo 2

You may wish to buy an emergency mouse for when you wear out the one you've got.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Fletch on 05 Aug 2008, 22:10: Quote from: parm on 05 Aug 2008, 04:58
Diablo 2

You may wish to buy an emergency mouse for when you wear out the one you've got.
It wasn't that good.
Syndicate + Expansion / Syndicate Wars.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: parm on 06 Aug 2008, 01:20: Quote from: Fletch on 05 Aug 2008, 22:10
Quote from: parm on 05 Aug 2008, 04:58
Diablo 2

You may wish to buy an emergency mouse for when you wear out the one you've got.
It wasn't that good.

!!

!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Spluff on 06 Aug 2008, 02:30: Yeah, it was fun, but it was hardly an epic feat of storytelling.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Jackie Blue on 06 Aug 2008, 12:35: Diablo 2 wasn't that good? Explain that to the legions of people who STILL PLAY IT, and to Blizzard who STILL UPDATE IT and STILL SELL IT IN STORES.

That's like saying Starcraft was "okay".
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Melodic on 06 Aug 2008, 13:25: You're allowed to say "I think it wasn't that good". You're even allowed to say "It is my humble opinion that that game was poor". But you aren't allowed to out-and-out SAY IT.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Ozymandias on 06 Aug 2008, 15:14: Quote from: zerodrone on 06 Aug 2008, 12:35
Explain that to the legions of people who STILL PLAY IT, and to Blizzard who STILL UPDATE IT and STILL SELL IT IN STORES.

Man, I try. I think they're autistic or something, though.

Also, something selling well has never been a really good argument for quality ever. That kind of logic tells me Epic Movie was better than Lars and the Real Girl. Clearly, anyone who holds this opinion has a deep flaw in their character.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Jackie Blue on 07 Aug 2008, 11:56: You're an elitist.

If a lot of people like something, it must have some value to them, and it's ridiculous to tell people you have better taste than them.

This is not the same as saying that Britney Spears is "better" than GY!BE because she's sold more records. It's just saying that clearly Britney Spears is good, on some level, to a lot of people, and thus there must be something she is doing right.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Melodic on 07 Aug 2008, 13:37: Godspeed should really be two words.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Jackie Blue on 07 Aug 2008, 13:41: But "godspeed" is a real word. :?

What's really annoying is abbreviating GY!BE to "Godspeed" and having people think you mean the horrible heavy metal band.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Johnny C on 07 Aug 2008, 20:49: Quote from: zerodrone on 07 Aug 2008, 11:56
You're an elitist.

If a lot of people like something, it must have some value to them

This is a fallacious argument and I think you know it. It's an appeal to popularity. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it isn't shit. SEE: Slavery, fascism, Nickelback.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: StaedlerMars on 07 Aug 2008, 21:01: Age of Empires II.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Leinad on 07 Aug 2008, 22:22: Quote from: Johnny C on 07 Aug 2008, 20:49
This is a fallacious argument and I think you know it. It's an appeal to popularity. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it isn't shit. SEE: Slavery, fascism, Nickelback.

Wrong. He said value to them, which it does. He didn't say according to everyone's moral code, just to them.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: McTaggart on 07 Aug 2008, 22:29: Diablo 2 was very good at what it did. It definitely didn't tell a story. It's a fun hack and slash. I think that's all it tries to be.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: parm on 08 Aug 2008, 00:38: Quote from: StaedlerMars on 07 Aug 2008, 21:01
Age of Empires II.

Fuck, yeah.

Did we do any of the Transport Tycoons yet? Also, anything by Chris Sawyer - not technically Pre-XP for some of it, but I suspect that things like Rollercoaster Tycoon (1 and 2) and Locomotion would probably work on older machines reasonably happily.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Jackie Blue on 08 Aug 2008, 10:16: Quote from: Johnny C on 07 Aug 2008, 20:49
Just because something is popular doesn't mean it isn't shit. SEE: Slavery, fascism, Nickelback.

Slavery and fascism aren't art forms, so you're shooting yourself in the apple with an orange by trotting those out.

Nickelback may not be good to you or I, but to a lot of people they are. I have no right to tell people who honestly enjoy them that what they are enjoying is, by some invisible empiric law, "shit".

You're an elitist too.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: parm on 08 Aug 2008, 11:03: Nickelback are shit, though.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Jackie Blue on 08 Aug 2008, 11:23: I perceive Nickelback to be shit.

That does not mean they are shit.

Some people perceive Nickelback to be good.

That does not mean they have shit taste.

It just means they like something I don't.

Why is this so hard to accept.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: parm on 08 Aug 2008, 14:20: Quote from: zerodrone on 08 Aug 2008, 11:23
Some people perceive Nickelback to be good.

These people are wrong, just like the people who think Diablo 2 is "not all that good".

Also, people on the internet are really easy to wind up.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Jackie Blue on 08 Aug 2008, 15:03: I'm not wound up in the slightest. Just being precise.

edit: It's one thing to say "I don't like Diablo 2." It's quite another to say that a game with such lasting appeal to so many people is "not good" because it is provably good to a large number of people.

No matter what you like, a lot of people will think it's shit. No matter what you think is shit, some number (possibly a lot) of people will like it. This is why art is different from science.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Dimmukane on 08 Aug 2008, 19:07: Quote from: parm on 08 Aug 2008, 14:20
These people are wrong, just like the people who think Diablo 2 is "not all that good".

How can I be wrong about something that is entirely subjective? Some people just don't click with some games/movies/music/books/art/whathaveyou, they're not automatically wrong for not liking it. If someone is playing Nickelback at a party, you don't say "you're wrong/have a shitty taste in music/were dropped on your head as a child and/or huffed too much paint in high school"; you ask them politely to play something else (if they're a good host, they'll acquiesce), and if they don't, just find a quieter corner of the house.

Of course, none of this applies when you're a fanboy. I nearly got stabbed with a spork (I got lucky, I was wearing a thick hoodie) for saying I didn't like FF7 that much, by someone who had dressed up as Vincent Valentine the previous Halloween.

Basically what I'm saying is, people who don't respect the opinions of others get lumped into the group I label "dickwads".
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Vendetagainst on 08 Aug 2008, 20:04: JETPACK (http://compactiongames.about.com/library/free/bl_jetpack_free.htm)
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Jackie Blue on 08 Aug 2008, 22:47: Quote from: Anyways on 08 Aug 2008, 19:27
When someone says "it wasn't that good" how's about we all interpret that as "I didn't think it was that good" instead of "I am making a statement that says this game is not all that good" because that is obviously not the case when we are talking about art in any form - it cannot be perceived objectively in any way, so why make it sound like others are trying to describe it that way?

Because some people - including some on this forum - have in fact used "X is not good" as shorthand for "No, really, X is not good and people who think X is good are stupid".

Precision. It's what's in.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Spluff on 09 Aug 2008, 00:04: I doubt anybody has said something with that intent. I've seen a few tongue in cheek comments in that vein but I don't think I've seen any serious comments that say that.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: SirHardHead on 09 Aug 2008, 00:20: I really enjoyed Wolfenstein, Doom and then later on Age of Empires I & II.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Leinad on 09 Aug 2008, 00:47: I played AoE II before I played AoE I, so when I went back and tried to enjoy AoE I I simply could not because of no queue's, no formations, and your troops did not move in a group.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Spluff on 09 Aug 2008, 02:42: I preferred AoE to AoE II because of it's thriving multiplayer community. After the population hack had been applied, furiously pumping out horse archers and vying for the high land in a DM was ridiculously fun.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Jackie Blue on 09 Aug 2008, 15:27: I've got AoE 2. Despite being very good at the single-player campaigns in other RTS games, I cannot for the fucking life of me figure out how the fuck to beat the VERY FIRST JOAN OF ARC STORY MISSION (or maybe it's the second one, anyway the first one where you have a castle).

I get the feeling I'm missing some insanely basic strategy but every time I tried it, I would fortify my defenses like a madman and still get gang raped eventually.

Also I kept running out of resources.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: PizzaSHARK on 09 Nov 2008, 01:03: Quote from: Spluff on 02 Aug 2008, 00:55
Baldur's Gate I & II
Planescape: Torment
Fallout I & II
Deus Ex
System Shock 2
Half Life

He's got it nailed. Surprised people even remember Torment... amazing game, but it just never got the attention it deserved.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: DonInKansas on 09 Nov 2008, 05:24: Quote from: Scandanavian War Machine on 03 Aug 2008, 15:30
Thief: Deadly Shadows is a great old game that has somehow managed to withstand the test of time and still be great. you should get it.

too bad my stupid, futuristic computer can't play it.

An excellent game! Why can't you play it? Dosbox is your friend, man............

I also love me some Quest For Glory.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: snalin on 09 Nov 2008, 06:28: As Jackie said; AOE1&2 is good games, but both have some missions that are impossibly hard. Like the AOE1 missions where you had to cross a fucking mile of enemy troops that were better than your own, without any healers or chances to rebuild. The only way to win was to use some ridiculous amounts of hit and run tactics.

And I just tried that AOE2 mission. It can be done, if you are able to survive the frustration of the bloody longbowmen that always makes you units run outside the walls to be slaughtered. If I'd bothered to do it all again, I'd have to use a hefty amount of conversion power.

OP: try out dungeon siege 2. It's the best mindless grind feast ever.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 09 Nov 2008, 13:06: A brilliant and immensely underrated RPG: Arcanum. BUY THIS GAME. It's fantastic. It's set in this weird Victorian, steam-punk, machines and magic world and it has such incredible replayability b/c of how customizable the characters are and....well it's one of my favorite games ever.

A brilliant and immensely underrated FPS: No One Lives Forever. Seriously, this is one of the most enjoyable shooters I've ever played. I love it! Intentionally campy/goofy/hilarious Bond era spy action with an appropriately nutty plot, great villains and some of the best, most innovative levels I've come across in the genre. Lots and lots of fun.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: KvP on 09 Nov 2008, 13:26: Quote from: TheFuriousWombat on 09 Nov 2008, 13:06
A brilliant and immensely underrated RPG: Arcanum. BUY THIS GAME. It's fantastic. It's set in this weird Victorian, steam-punk, machines and magic world and it has such incredible replayability b/c of how customizable the characters are and....well it's one of my favorite games ever.
NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE

Actually one thing you gotta look out for with that one is the surprisingly steep system reqs. It looks worse than the Fallouts but my lappy, on which I could play the Fallouts handily, could not run it. Unoptimized engine! Unoptimized game, really.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 09 Nov 2008, 15:44: Aww c'mon, what was wrong with Arcanum? Any niggling bugs were fixed in patches and everything else was awesome.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: CarrionMan on 09 Nov 2008, 16:59: How about the Marathon series? You can download it for free at the Bungie webstie!
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: makeout hobo on 09 Nov 2008, 18:35: Dune!
Can't believe no one has suggested this one yet, especially considering Jeph's love of zee quotes.
Christ, old now, abandonware style...and then after that, play Dune 2.
Battlezone (the 98 version)
Dark Reign (another 98 game)
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Reed on 09 Nov 2008, 20:18: Quote from: TheFuriousWombat on 09 Nov 2008, 13:06
A brilliant and immensely underrated FPS: No One Lives Forever. Seriously, this is one of the most enjoyable shooters I've ever played. I love it! Intentionally campy/goofy/hilarious Bond era spy action with an appropriately nutty plot, great villains and some of the best, most innovative levels I've come across in the genre. Lots and lots of fun.

NOLF was the god damn best of the best....I STILL play that game and it's been out for what....6 years?
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Spluff on 09 Nov 2008, 20:28: Quote from: TheFuriousWombat on 09 Nov 2008, 15:44
Aww c'mon, what was wrong with Arcanum? Any niggling bugs were fixed in patches and everything else was awesome.

As far as RPGs go, the RP part of this game was amazing. The actual G part was bug ridden and really badly designed, unfortunately (kind of like all Troika games).
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 11 Nov 2008, 12:03: It wasn't that badly designed and rarely were bugs game breaking in any sense. The game did freeze up and such at times though. No, it wasn't at all perfect but it did get patched and even before then was certainly playable. Plus it was just so damn fun! And you could have sex with sheep which is pretty hilarious! I have really fond memories of that game and sincerely wish Troika was still around. Vampire: The Masquerade was, while also really buggy, amazing as well. If only they could have lasted and implemented some tighter programing they'd be unstoppable!
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: ackblom12 on 11 Nov 2008, 13:27: Oh Troika, how i miss thee and your amazingly fun/broken games.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: evernew on 13 Nov 2008, 02:36: Quote from: Spluff on 02 Aug 2008, 00:55
Baldur's Gate I & II
Planescape: Torment
Fallout I & II
Deus Ex
System Shock 2
Half Life

This man or woman knows what he or she is talking about.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: PizzaSHARK on 13 Nov 2008, 04:49: Quote from: ackblom12 on 11 Nov 2008, 13:27
Oh Troika, how i miss thee and your amazingly fun/broken games.

Bloodlines was a fun, if buggy, FPS/RPG hybrid. I never did get a chance to play Redemption.

I tried playing Temple of Elemental Evil, but I wasn't able to get into it... it was much more strict about PnP rules than the Infinity Engine and Aurora Engine games were. I remember making my party and getting aggravated by the fact that most of the Feats didn't actually tell you what they did, and the manual didn't, either! :x
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 13 Nov 2008, 07:30: I just reinstalled my copy of Bloodlines actually, and I'm running through it with a Ventrue atm. With the official patches and then later the unofficial patches it takes away pretty much all of the game-breaking/crash/death bugs, though there all of those graphical glitches are pretty much there. Still, fun.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: OneoftheLost on 13 Nov 2008, 19:17: Quote from: evernew on 13 Nov 2008, 02:36
Quote from: Spluff on 02 Aug 2008, 00:55
Baldur's Gate I & II
Planescape: Torment
Fallout I & II
Deus Ex
System Shock 2
Half Life

This man or woman knows what he or she is talking about.

Amen. Also. FREESPACE. Good stuff right thur. Oh.... and Wing Commander. The original. Also, as was stated earlier. The Thief series is supposed to be good.

I personally would like to point torwards a few of my favorites.

Sid Meier's Pirates
Sid Meier's Civilization 1-3 are all very good old school games. (I know at least 3 is for PC) and Civ 4 is pure gaming bliss. (Yup, I still play it every single day.

Not as oldschool, but still fun. Freelancer. Oh, and Fallout 1 is awesome.... and Diablo 2. Bloodlines is another good one, a tad bit buggy though.

Really, this thread has ALOT of good titles, I would look for game demos and reviews online if I were you. Good luck in your search!
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Chesire Cat on 14 Nov 2008, 16:36: Descent 1-3 played with a Joystick with a hat-switch and possibly a throttle.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Surgoshan on 14 Nov 2008, 17:26: I enjoyed the heck out of the LucasArts game Afterlife. Some really good, creative humor in there.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: actreal on 14 Nov 2008, 21:11: Best pre-PC game:

Elite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_(video_game))
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: GreyGabe on 15 Nov 2008, 14:44: Well... most of the games I used to play (and still do, some of them) were listed, but...

Myst series (if you like ridiculously intricate puzzles)
King's Quest series
Space Quest series
The Longest Journey

That's all the games (that haven't already been listed) that I can think of right now, anyway.

Edit:

Wait, has nobody said Zork? Zork! Sure it's completely text-based, but it was still interesting.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: PizzaSHARK on 17 Nov 2008, 22:06: Quote from: Chesire Cat on 14 Nov 2008, 16:36
Descent 1-3 played with a Joystick with a hat-switch and possibly a throttle.

Amen. Six degrees of freedom (up-down, left-right, forward-backward) in a shooter really is something fun. I still want a Descent 4, maybe using the Source engine :(

If you pick up Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate II, there're some mods you definitely want to pick up. First, you'll want to get BG Trilogy (only if you get both games and have them installed at the same time), which lets you play all the way from Candlekeep (the start of the first game) to the Throne of Bhaal (the end of the second game's expansion pack, which I imagine would come bundled with BG2 these days) using the updated, BG2 version of the Infinity Engine, which is pretty handy. You get the full spell list from BG2, along with all of the new classes and kits, and a little bit of user-generated content between the two games to preserve continuity.

You'll also want to pick up the fixpacks and official patches for both games.

BG2 had a strong modding community, and ended up producing some very high-quality mods. I'd personally recommend Ascension+Tournabout+Redemption (Ascension being the core mod, and the other two being minimods that add a little to Ascension), which "restores" the finale of Throne of Bhaal to the way the developers would have liked to make it, had they more time (David Gaider's - one of the developers - words.)

I'd also recommend the Solaufein mod, which adds a new NPC to the game you can recruit, and is honestly the only one I've found to be worth having so far. Also made by the same author are the EaseofUse mod (which predictably includes numerous optional tweaks to make some elements of the game less of a pain in the ass - ammunition, scrolls, and potions stacking to 9999 instead of 40 or 5, etc) and Tactics2 mod (which adjusts several encounters in the game to be more challenging, adds a couple of completely new optional encounters, and includes numerous AI and scripting adjustments.)

The readmes will tell you in what order to install everything (it's all very streamlined and simple... just run the executables and follow the prompts), though the order is generally official patches, then fixpacks, then everything else :)
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: Red Peril on 18 Nov 2008, 11:22: The Furious Wombat and Dire Bacterium: Now I know the other two people who bought NOLF, I cannot imagine you as anything other than perfect.
My other choice would be Hidden and Dangerous-Lousy translation and buggy but one of the best action games of the 90's. Just get the patch or you condemn yourself to torment.
Title: Re: Best PC Games (pre-XP)
Post by: lyra on 21 Nov 2008, 18:00: Oregon Trail. It'll take you back to the good ol' days.