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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: lily-kiernan on 22 Nov 2008, 00:35
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Jeph makes Faye's body type so real, so convincing. I love how his (maybe?) main female character doesn't fit society's cookie-cutter standards.
So, um... thanks. I'm getting the Aerodynamically Curvaceous shirt as soon as I save up enough monies.
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I agree, but I could do without the fat jokes. In real life, Faye would be a petite girl with big knockers and hips, the rest of the women would be in an eating disorder ward. Yeah, I know, it's just a comic and not drawn to scale, but it still sorta irks me as a big knocker girl.
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I agree, but I could do without the fat jokes. In real life, Faye would be a petite girl with big knockers and hips, the rest of the women would be in an eating disorder ward. Yeah, I know, it's just a comic and not drawn to scale, but it still sorta irks me as a big knocker girl.
hey, don't sweat it - if you've got a faye-esque figure, be happy. speaking for myself and, i think, most guys, yours is the most attractive kinda figure.
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hey, don't sweat it - if you've got a faye-esque figure, be happy. speaking for myself and, i think, most guys, yours is the most attractive kinda figure.
Hell yeah!
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I wholeheartedly agree with that statement.
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Yeah, enjoy yourself, fatties.
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Yeah, enjoy yourself, fatties.
Elegantly put.
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hey, don't sweat it - if you've got a faye-esque figure, be happy. speaking for myself and, i think, most guys, yours is the most attractive kinda figure.
I think we'd get most forumites agreeing on that before a mod comes along and says "alright, we get the picture" and then locks it
Before that happens, I'd like to agree too
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/agree
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Shake dat healthy butt.
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Clearly we need a Faye Fanclub with newsletter and stuff.
Shit I'm unemployed I guess I'll go type something up. *sigh*
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seriously agree. i'm faye-esque myself. and my boyfriend likes it. hehe.
but, besides admiring her figure, i admire her personality. she's damn funny. and she's (admit it!) come a long way since we first met her, totally screwed up from her dad's incident....go faye go! :lol:
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Fatties are fat and should be ashamed!
I think you have healthy figures and should feel beautiful!
FAT!
BEAUTIFUL!
NAZIS!
PORN!
RULE 34!
THREAD LOCKED!
sarcastic comment
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What's wrong with that? Faye is a representation of an attractive female archetype
But then I'm quoting a turkey (http://"http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=760#")
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Jeph makes Faye's body type so real, so convincing. I love how his (maybe?) main female character doesn't fit society's cookie-cutter standards.
So, um... thanks. I'm getting the Aerodynamically Curvaceous shirt as soon as I save up enough monies.
Yeah, good luck on ever seeing that t-shirt arrive…
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BAWWWW
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I personally am very thin to the point that people make fun of it "Dont turn sideways!" "Watch for that crack in the floor!" all that crap. I have tried to gain weight but thats just not how my body is and I have come to accept it. Im happy with my body and am comfortable with myself. Saying that one body type is better than the other is like saying blondes are better than brunettes or vice versa. To each their own, not one person will ever be 100% right. Freaking body nazis.
Dont hate on the skinny girls, we dont hate the curvy.
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*slow clap*
Seriously...
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I don't care what anyone says. Fat people suck. Especially if it isn't a glandular problem, but just plain gluttony. And I'm not saying like the little beer belly or whatever, I'm saying those enormous obese people who use scooters, and complain about how fat they are. I mean, come on. Scooters aren't getting rid of that fat. Even the fattest guy in the world still attempts to walk(he actually has to use a trailer to get around. Eww.) I don't mind the ones who at least try, and I mean try, exercise programs, drastic diet changes, and, if that doesn't work, some form of surgery. I mean, they're trying. They walk, and they don't complain as much. Not no stinkin' scooter.
Oh, and skeletons suck too. I mean the ones who have gone to the point of bone jutting badness, especially if they are in the media. Eat damnit. Food good!
I was starting out sarcastic, but then I remembered how bitchy some fat people are. And skeletons piss me off because of how badly influential they are.
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Basically what I am saying is if you "hate" people because of their weight you should probably a) take an anger management course or b) die in a fire
Or, c) all of the above?
Really, now? Hating people for their weight? Hate them for their individual hypocrisy, or their bitchiness, and as for skeletons, hate the media that forced them to be that way. My mother was 115 pounds until she was 42 (and had me, haha) and 5'3. She was very thin, and could never put weight on. I eat probably 1500 calories a day and loads of vitamins and very little fat. Because of health problems, yeah, I'm chubby but also curvy.
And thanks, to those guys who said that this body type is good. I think women need to hear that.
HURR TIRED HURR
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Hahahaha
"Can we be friends?"
"Are you over 11 stone?"
"Uhhh ... yeah?"
"GET THE FUCK AWAY RIGHT NOW"
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Basically what I am saying is if you "hate" people because of their weight you should probably a) take an anger management course or b) die in a fire
Or, c) all of the above?
Really, now? Hating people for their weight? Hate them for their individual hypocrisy, or their bitchiness, and as for skeletons, hate the media that forced them to be that way. My mother was 115 pounds until she was 42 (and had me, haha) and 5'3. She was very thin, and could never put weight on. I eat probably 1500 calories a day and loads of vitamins and very little fat. Because of health problems, yeah, I'm chubby but also curvy.
And thanks, to those guys who said that this body type is good. I think women need to hear that.
HURR TIRED HURR
You made me -freaking- register for the forums.
He said he hates them for their laziness and their self-righteous attitudes, and their bitchiness..... not their weight.
/face>palm
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Hahahaha
"Can we be friends?"
"Are you over 11 stone?"
"Uhhh ... yeah?"
"GET THE FUCK AWAY RIGHT NOW"
"Stone"?
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Hahahaha
"Can we be friends?"
"Are you over 11 stone?"
"Uhhh ... yeah?"
"GET THE FUCK AWAY RIGHT NOW"
"Stone"?
It's the silly Brits way of talking :P (JK, I love you, you spawned Hugh Laurie AND Stevphen Fry. All hail mother England!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_(mass)
I think it's ~14 (US)lbs, but that might be those crazy British pounds!!
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Yes, if all the QC characters were real people, the only one I'd really find attractive would be Faye. The curves will be the death of me someday!
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You made me -freaking- register for the forums.
He said he hates them for their laziness and their self-righteous attitudes, and their bitchiness..... not their weight.
/face>palm
Still he said he hated the fat, not the self-righteous ones. And really, even if theyre lazy and undisciplined, why should it be his concern?
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Honestly, I'd go for Sven. Steve and Marten are rather bitchy... and I'm all for the musicians.
That is... SO not the point of this forum. Oh well.
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Yes, if all the QC characters were real people, the only one I'd really find attractive would be Faye. The curves will be the death of me someday!
H-how?
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His statement implies fat people are bitchy more often than other people, which isn't true - they just have one more thing to bitch about.
having an extra reason to bitch, doesnt mean you have to, especially if the only person you should be bitching too is yourself. People are being a hypocrit if they say they're obese or anorexic cause of the media. If the media told us to shoot ourselves, would 80% of the anorexics commit suicide? You still decide on your own, people always cling to the I'm sick card to avoid dealing with their problems on their own. I never saw media make someone skinny.
I did on the other hand find people stuffing their faces out of unhappiness, the stupid thing is they're unhappy cause they're overweight. and stuffing your face is the root of the overweight problem. I've seen so many overweight people say I cant help being fat I'm obese. But then they go to the macdonalds and take 2 large big mac menu's. When I asked her why, she said:' Ive been jogging earlier, so I burned fat, and now I can eat more fat' (she went jogging/walking for 10min). A weightproblem hardly ever has it's root outside of the person who has the weightproblem.
I do think it's stupid that you call Faye overweight she is by far not overweight. If I had to guess I'd say her BMI is at 23/24 (ok being between 20 and 25, and perfect being 22)
If your BMI (weight in kg/ (length in meters x length in meters) )is higher then 25 though you have a problem, and should really go consult a dietist, if you're topping 30 you're expected to not live another 10years without medical help required.
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speaking for myself and, i think, most guys on the internet, yours is the most attractive kinda figure.
Fixed.
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If your BMI (weight in kg/ (length in meters x length in meters) )is higher then 25 though you have a problem, and should really go consult a dietist, if you're topping 30 you're expected to not live another 10years without medical help required.
In the last months, I have lost 85 pounds and am continuing to lose through a medically-supervised weight loss program. I have discussed BMI with my health educator and doctors.
The body mass index originated in 1835 by a Belgian researcher who created it as a method to calculate body volume. http://www.mybodymassindex.com/articles_bmiorigins.html (http://www.mybodymassindex.com/articles_bmiorigins.html)
They had no idea how to measure body fat back then. BMI has since been replaced by Body Fat Percentage. BMI goals actually cause very unhealthy side effects.
In fact, if I were to be able to drop to 0 % (that is zero percent) body fat, I'd still have to lose another 15 pounds of lean body mass (that is muscale and bone) in order to get down to a 30 BMI.
This BMI miscalculation happens for a large percent of the American population.
I urge anyone worried about their weight to research Body Fat Percentage to find their healthy size.
BTW: Faye is the absolutely sexiest character ever. OMG, I'm lusting over a cartoon character! :oops:
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That is... SO not the point of this forum. Oh well.
But, strangely enough, that's what most boarders in this subforum use it for. Ho hum.
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That is... SO not the point of this forum. Oh well.
But, strangely enough, that's what most boarders in this subforum use it for. Ho hum.
At least in this thread, it's a bunch of people talking about how Faye is a sexy person because she isn't the skinny little thing that everyone else is. People could be in here going "OMG Hanners is teh hottnez. Faye is not sexy cause not hanners! SHOW HANNERS BOOBS!!!" I get tired of that in the WCT whenever there is a Hannelore strip.
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In fact, if I were to be able to drop to 0 % (that is zero percent) body fat, I'd still have to lose another 15 pounds of lean body mass (that is muscale and bone) in order to get down to a 30 BMI.
DAMN. That's pretty intense.
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I'm almost entirely sure that's not true, unless you've been doing hypertrophy specific training for years or are on roids.
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Or if you're tall. Tall people break the BMI. So do short people, but in the other direction.
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Tanita makes a reasonably priced scale that estimates body fat percentage based on an electrical measurement, saving you the trouble of getting calipered or water-tanked.
On real-life women, it's a minus for me if ribs are sticking out.
What makes Faye attractive to the other characters, and what would make a Faye-like real woman attractive to me, is her wit and personality. I have a dysfunctional pattern of being attracted to personalities like Faye's.
Faye isn't even Rubenesque. I bet she's on the high side of medical recommendations but it's a cultural malfunction that makes her feel fat.
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My BMI is 16. I am in no way a skeleton. I'm just hella tall. :mrgreen:
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if your BMI is 16 you're either calculating it wrong or I would really hurry myself to a hospital. a BMI of 16 = severe malnourishment, it gets dangerous below 18 just like obese gets dangerous above 28.
for the calculation again lets use me.
I'm a skinny person, (for some reason I have a superfast metabolism) I weigh 69kg which is 151.8 lbs and I'm 1m83 which is about 72" or 6' feet something
69 divided by 1.83 times 1.83 = 69/3.348 = a BMI of 20.6 which is still ok.
Body fat is something they introduced after they discovered that the way body mass an body fat related to eachother were changing in drastically but no way in heaven or hell would your BMI be over 25 if you have 0% bodyfat. Saying you're bigboned? for a BMI of 25+ on an average height guy lets say 1m75 which is 68.9" = 5 ' and 8.90 " he'd have to weigh over 80kg which is 176 lbs and still be healthy. or way more then 87kg or 191.4 lbs to enter the obesity zone.
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BMI is crap, manages to make most people feel like shit (you're too fat! You're too thin!), and why the fuck do doctors need a weight.height chart to work out if someone's overweight or not anyway?? They shouldn't be too thick to learn discernment what with that medical degree and all... nor do you need a MD to work out what's a healthy bodyfat% and/or weight for you.
Skinny people are not necessarily healthy or active. Fat people are not necessarily unhealthy or lazy. Get the fuck over it.
(Oh and FYI at just under 20% bodyfat, a fair amount of muscle and extremely active with a good diet I was exactly on the line between "OK" and "overweight". I am now what I consider overweight; I've got a wee bit of a belly, gone a size up in pants, probably around 35% bodyfat and my weight is starting to annoy me in terms of being able to walk the dogs on hills etc.
My BMI makes me "obese" which strikes me as ridiculous as I can still go harder and longer at kickboxing than my muscular, slim, male friend whose BMI puts him on the line between "OK" and "underweight". Waste of fucking time and energy, I know I need to lose weight and didn't need an arbitrary bullshit chart to guilt-trip me into knowing that.)
As for Faye, she's hot but her increasing negativity and passive-aggressiveness are killing my respect for her. :x
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my weight is starting to annoy me in terms of being able to walk the dogs on hills etc.
My BMI makes me "obese" which strikes me as ridiculous
Eh? You've have a problem with your weight, but a measure that tells you the same is ridiculous?
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Fenris, maybe you dont need a doctor to help you find out you need to do a little more exercise, but a lot of people DO. otherwise the world wouldnt have any obese people. a chart never tries to guilt-trip you in losing weight, a chart cant even try to DO anything. The fact that you checked the chart, and that you feel uncomfortable with what it says is you guilt-tripping yourself. In most cases it's better off to be a little bit overweight then underweight when it comes to physical activity. More fat too burn means you can produce more energy. But the problems with overweight start setting in at the late 30's, early 40's and we'll see who's better off then you or you little underweight friend. You said so yourself you're having problems waking dogs on hills, you know that seems like a big problem to me (hills shouldnt be too physically exhausting)
and as you may have noticed we are not pissing on the parade of fat people. We're getting annoyed by fat people who DONT exercise or at least eat more then they know themselves they should, and then go blaming everybody and everything but themselves for being fat. You got yourself fat, nobody else did, face that and you're halfway down the road of a diet (that last part was directed at the group of fat people described, the angry non exercisers).
I do heavily agree on the Faye part though. I loved Faye in the earlier comics, now (and this from before the Sven thing) she's lost all my respect. She's a sad woman who hates it to see other people happy, she tries to hide it, but as of late I dont even think she's trying to hide it
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Eh? You've have a problem with your weight, but a measure that tells you the same is ridiculous?
Eh, I think it was refered to unacuracy (<-insert right term instead) of BMI. For instance, my BMI would be 21,5, and I'm quite skinny, but 202 cm.
Obese people don't walk on hills, etc...
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if your BMI is 16 you're either calculating it wrong
The point people have been making (which you've ignored) is that there is no right way to calculate it because it's a fundamentally broken measurement.
I'm a skinny person, (for some reason I have a superfast metabolism) I weigh 69kg which is 151.8 lbs and I'm 1m83 which is about 72" or 6' feet something
69 divided by 1.83 times 1.83 = 69/3.348 = a BMI of 20.6 which is still ok.
If you're self-described as "skinny" but 20.6 when 20 is the ostensibly "average" BMI, doesn't that kind of prove the point?
for a BMI of 25+ on an average height guy lets say 1m75 which is 68.9" = 5 ' and 8.90 " he'd have to weigh over 80kg which is 176 lbs and still be healthy.
How is 80kg of mostly muscle implausible?
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Yeah. I'm 5'9" and 80kg of mostly muscle. Granted, I had to work hard to get there and have to work hard to stay there, but it's not implausible.
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there is no average BMI only an optimal one, it's like saying there's an average body fat % and that is the right one, cause that would put the average body fat % in the ranges of around 40 to 45% and I highly doubt that is the optimal one.
and really I would like for you to try to go to a doctor and say hey I have a Body mass index of 16 the possible results are:
a.) you are not lying you really are as malnourished as those little african kids you see on the informercials asking for you money to help save children from starvation. In which case the doctor will refer you to the hospital where you will most likely be hooked up to a tube that will feed you with whatever the IV of the day holds.
b.) he will tell you to calculate it correctly, ask him if he can do it for you and do it (cause yes there is a correct way: did you all use your height in METERS and your weight in KILOGRAMS, instead of feet/inches and pounds?)
c.) he'll just laugh at you charge his fee and make some quick money.
it's not a tool to place you somewhere precisely it's a tool to indicate a trend, and if it is a bad trend you should act on it and not go ignoring it cause the results dont suit your flavor.
and yes a BMI of 20.6 is on the skinny side of it.
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i like faye's curves. more than anything, i like how the body types of all of the girl characters are *different* from each other.
to all the skinny people: just stay healthy.
to all the fat people: just stay as active as you can.
to everyone: just be happy with who you are, and if you aren't, then change yourself somehow.
that is all.
not like y'all needed a lecture, but i said it anyway.
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for a BMI of 25+ on an average height guy lets say 1m75 which is 68.9" = 5 ' and 8.90 " he'd have to weigh over 80kg which is 176 lbs and still be healthy.
How is 80kg of mostly muscle implausible?
one I stated that a man of 5'9" weighing 176 lbs is still a healthy a man, 80kg of muscles is not implausible, but you have to calculate how much your skeleton weighs :)
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if your BMI is 16 you're either calculating it wrong or I would really hurry myself to a hospital. a BMI of 16 = severe malnourishment, it gets dangerous below 18 just like obese gets dangerous above 28.
for the calculation again lets use me.
I'm a skinny person, (for some reason I have a superfast metabolism) I weigh 69kg which is 151.8 lbs and I'm 1m83 which is about 72" or 6' feet something
69 divided by 1.83 times 1.83 = 69/3.348 = a BMI of 20.6 which is still ok.
Body fat is something they introduced after they discovered that the way body mass an body fat related to eachother were changing in drastically but no way in heaven or hell would your BMI be over 25 if you have 0% bodyfat. Saying you're bigboned? for a BMI of 25+ on an average height guy lets say 1m75 which is 68.9" = 5 ' and 8.90 " he'd have to weigh over 80kg which is 176 lbs and still be healthy. or way more then 87kg or 191.4 lbs to enter the obesity zone.
130 and 5'11". Figure it out for me.
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I've calculated it to a BMI of 18.1. Which is below the 20-25 limit advised, but is still above malnourishment.
The problems you'll most likely face is a lowered immunity, getting sick more often then you normally would with more weight.
A possibility of vitamin and or mineral deficiencies which lead to weakened bones, and once again a weakened immune-system.
these things are not life threatening, but that doesnt mean you can keep losing weight and not pay the price.
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1 - I've dated girls accross the specturm. From 5'4, 120 pounds (if wearing jeans, jean jacket, jean shirt, and soaked through) all the way through to 5'6, 180lb beauty. And I can honestly say, I prefer the girl with meat on her bones. Less chance to hurt someone that way *LOL*
2 - Are you gonna take me home tonight
Ah down beside that red firelight
Are you gonna let it all hang out
Fat bottomed girls
You make the rockin world go round
Hey I was just a skinny lad
Never knew no good from bad
But I knew life before I left my nursery
Left alone with big fat fanny
She was such a naughty nanny
Heap big woman you made a bad boy out of me
Hey hey!
:mrgreen:
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I wonder why people feel the need to attach an over simplified number to themselves, just so they can squeeze into a category that's only going to make them wig out about their weight.
If your doctor tells you "You weigh too much, it's affecting your health negatively" and/or you struggle doing basic everyday things like showering or walking up stairs, then you're fat and need to lose some weight.
If, on the flip side, your doctor says "You're too skinny, that's part of the reason you get sick so often" then you need to gain some weight, twiggy.
What's the point of a scale like the BMI that isn't accurate, in the sense that it tells you whether you're 'fit' or not? It doesn't work for all people, but people try to apply it to everyone else.
I will never understand the point of such sayings like "Only real women have curves". There's no need to tear down and insult women who aren't naturally curvy in order to point out that women with curves are attractive too. Why not just say "Everyone is attractive to someone. Some people find chubby beautiful, other people prefer a more 'streamlined' shape. Each one has its merits."
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I wonder why people feel the need to attach an over simplified number to themselves, just so they can squeeze into a category that's only going to make them wig out about their weight.
If your doctor tells you "You weigh too much, it's affecting your health negatively" and/or you struggle doing basic everyday things like showering or walking up stairs, then you're fat and need to lose some weight.
If, on the flip side, your doctor says "You're too skinny, that's part of the reason you get sick so often" then you need to gain some weight, twiggy.
What's the point of a scale like the BMI that isn't accurate, in the sense that it tells you whether you're 'fit' or not? It doesn't work for all people, but people try to apply it to everyone else.
I will never understand the point of such sayings like "Only real women have curves". There's no need to tear down and insult women who aren't naturally curvy in order to point out that women with curves are attractive too. Why not just say "Everyone is attractive to someone. Some people find chubby beautiful, other people prefer a more 'streamlined' shape. Each one has its merits."
Excellent post, SayWhat... Great point. Personally, I like a woman with a little meat on her bones... but that doesn't mean I haven't dated skinny girls. I don't have anything against them... I just typically stick to what I like and base it on personality. Regardless of physical attraction, if you can't carry on an interesting conversation before or after the sex... then what's the point anyway?
Just my two cents...
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I wonder why people feel the need to attach an over simplified number to themselves, just so they can squeeze into a category that's only going to make them wig out about their weight.
If your doctor tells you "You weigh too much, it's affecting your health negatively" and/or you struggle doing basic everyday things like showering or walking up stairs, then you're fat and need to lose some weight.
If, on the flip side, your doctor says "You're too skinny, that's part of the reason you get sick so often" then you need to gain some weight, twiggy.
What's the point of a scale like the BMI that isn't accurate, in the sense that it tells you whether you're 'fit' or not? It doesn't work for all people, but people try to apply it to everyone else.
I will never understand the point of such sayings like "Only real women have curves". There's no need to tear down and insult women who aren't naturally curvy in order to point out that women with curves are attractive too. Why not just say "Everyone is attractive to someone. Some people find chubby beautiful, other people prefer a more 'streamlined' shape. Each one has its merits."
People attach a number to it, cause most people cant make a neutral assessments about themselves, or they dont want to go to a doctor for a simple weight issue. Skinny people think they're too fat, fat people know they weigh too much but dont think it has any healthrisks.
It's like speedlimits, your car maybe be able to drive more then 50 miles and still do it safely, but that doesnt mean your risk isnt increasing if you're doing over 50miles an hour. BMI is a rough scale and should be used as a rough scale. But if your BMI is too high or too low, really dont ignore it but go talk to your physician... unless you want to go faster then the 'speedlimit'
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Physical attraction is definitely important, but it shouldn't be the only thing; I know people who refuse to date guys outside their type', ie tall, fit, with the 'emo' style and facial piercings, who then complain that they never meet any 'nice guys'. Uh, hello, you just turned down a date with that really sweet guy because he has curly blonde hair and weighs more than 120 lbs. Wtf?
Personally I prefer curvier girls too, if I weren't me, I wouldn't be physically attracted to me. Waaaay too skinny.
As if that made any sense.
JonSnow: I get the 'rough scale' thing, but I meet people who obsess and starve themselves because they found out their BMI online and thought it was 'too close' to being fat. I just...dont' really understand how you can let something so...'rough' affect you to the point where you'd harm your body.
My BMI is ridiculously low, but I don't gorge on food until I throw up because I know it's just a rough scale, not to mention I did the smart thing and talked to my doctor about it.
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Physical attraction is definitely important, but it shouldn't be the only thing; I know people who refuse to date guys outside their type', ie tall, fit, with the 'emo' style and facial piercings, who then complain that they never meet any 'nice guys'. Uh, hello, you just turned down a date with that really sweet guy because he has curly blonde hair and weighs more than 120 lbs. Wtf?
Personally I prefer curvier girls too, if I weren't me, I wouldn't be physically attracted to me. Waaaay too skinny.
As if that made any sense.
JonSnow: I get the 'rough scale' thing, but I meet people who obsess and starve themselves because they found out their BMI online and thought it was 'too close' to being fat. I just...dont' really understand how you can let something so...'rough' affect you to the point where you'd harm your body.
My BMI is ridiculously low, but I don't gorge on food until I throw up because I know it's just a rough scale, not to mention I did the smart thing and talked to my doctor about it.
Nowhere will you find me saying people should start stuffing their faces or go on a hungerstrike because your BMI is too low or too high...
Always consult a physician about it, if you want to work on it. The easiest way to actually gain weight is eat regularly, 3 times a day, every day at the same time. Eat healthy and balanced, so not just meat or not just vegetables, blalanced. And do exercise... going jogging everyday for like 10min doesnt steal away too much precious time, and you'll be fit and have a normal bodyweight in no time.
btw for all those people saying I'm obese so I cant help being fat. Only 3% or less of the population has the required genes (T-T, and not T-A, A-T or A-A) to be obese, and this 3% is usually a group of people that have normal weight, do you know why? because even obese people can keep their posture with a healthy diet and exercise. So Obesity is NO excuse for being fat, the root of the problem lies always within the person
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I will never understand the point of such sayings like "Only real women have curves". There's no need to tear down and insult women who aren't naturally curvy in order to point out that women with curves are attractive too. Why not just say "Everyone is attractive to someone. Some people find chubby beautiful, other people prefer a more 'streamlined' shape. Each one has its merits."
An excellent point here. I think "curvy" women are sort of seen as the underdog in this sort of case but, as this thread shows, it seems the vast majority of men are far from put off by women with curves. Frankly I think it must be a difficult time being a naturally slim woman when they're so often treated as some sort of evil. I don't think you need to unify under a banner based on your bodytype, it's just one part of you and is something that affects you a lot more than it affects other people.
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So, every fat girl should donate a sandwich to every skinny girl and everyone would be happy?
Or something? :roll:
People are going to find ways to be unhappy. It's almost as automatic as death and taxes.
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J: I've gotten accused of being anorexic from the school nurse, and several 'friends' who tell me on a near daily basis to "go eat a sandwich". There's only so many sandwiches I can eat, lol!
I actually eat roughly 6 small meals a day, with random snackage inbetween, and it's a fairly balanced diet, though with probably more bread than necessary. My doc said that it's just how I am, and as long as I don't lose any weight, I should be fine. And my working out is limited to walking the dogs, and occasionally kayaking. And also lifting small weights. Whheeee!
S: I've never understood it. How does me being twiggy bother other people so much, to the point where they insult me over it? I'm the one who has to spend 6 hours shopping to find two pairs of freaking jeans.
Granted, it'd be easier to find jeans if I were shorter, but oh well.
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she really needs to lay off the donuts.
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she really needs to lay off the donuts.
Like hell. Butts are supposed to jiggle.
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Plus, who wouldn't like a chick you could chow down with? Srsly. I'd rather hang out with a girl who appreciates a good KrispyKreme than one who says "No thanks, are you trying to make me fat?"
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Plus, who wouldn't like a chick you could chow down with? Srsly. I'd rather hang out with a girl who appreciates a good KrispyKreme than one who says "No thanks, are you trying to make me fat?"
i swear my ex LIVED on pick'n'mix sweets, and ate loadsa junk, and was pretty much the perfect figure. kinda slim, but by no means skinny, and kinda curvy. she'd absolutely chow down with me, which was awesome. it was only the complaints later on that "i'm getting fat" which were annoying, as they were all lies!
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Plus, who wouldn't like a chick you could chow down with? Srsly. I'd rather hang out with a girl who appreciates a good KrispyKreme than one who says "No thanks, are you trying to make me fat?"
lolz!!! Right on...
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Plus, who wouldn't like a chick you could chow down with? Srsly. I'd rather hang out with a girl who appreciates a good KrispyKreme than one who says "No thanks, are you trying to make me fat?"
i swear my ex LIVED on pick'n'mix sweets, and ate loadsa junk, and was pretty much the perfect figure. kinda slim, but by no means skinny, and kinda curvy. she'd absolutely chow down with me, which was awesome. it was only the complaints later on that "i'm getting fat" which were annoying, as they were all lies!
I eat like that, but with a lot of healthy food along with the junk, and I wish I could gain some curves. I get a leetle annoyed with my friends who crab at me for 'rubbing it in their faces' that I can eat and not gain weight while they have to diet to be 'skinny', because they think they're fat. Which they're not. A size 5 is not fat. A size 12 is not fat.
They're idiots. :roll:
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Since it's been brought up, what does the number in women's sizes measure?
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i've always wondered that, especially since UK and US sizes are different. apparently the dreaded "size zero" in the US is equal to a UK size four....
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Ugh, the stupid women's fashion measurements. They mean essentially nothing thanks to vanity sizing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_standard_clothing_size
Yes yes it's wiki, but this isn't a school paper, and this way I don't trawl through sites about BBWs and how they're superior to every other woman. [/rant]
The 'sizes' aren't even consistent through the industry, a size 3 at American Eagle is different than a 3 at Hollister, for example.
Makes it hard to find pants when your size is rare enough as is.
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Makes it hard to find pants when your size is rare enough as is.
I can relate to that one... maybe not for pants/shirts... but for shoes... You have any idea how hard it is to go out and just buy a size 15/16(US) in the store? Let alone something besides a straight up basketball shoe. The internet is the only place I can consistently find shoes... It sucks...
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I can't say much about the shoe issue, because my size is fairly common (my only issue is that I have really high arches and have to put inserts in for support, otherwise my feet ache).
My big complaint is pants. I hate shopping for pants. So much. With my waist size, I need in the 00-0-3 range. However, i also need them to be 'Longs', because my legs are long enough that regulars aren't comfortable on me. Issue, however, is that most 00-0s are 'shorts', because most people who buy them are petite. I am not short enough to be petite, sooo, pant shopping blows.
That and swimsuit shopping. It's damn hard to find two-piece swimsuits that are modest (meaning no string bikinis, teensy bottoms, etc).
I've noticed that there is clothing out there that would fit me, but a lot of it is what I would call skimpy. Body image issues=not wanting to dress like a cheap hooker. :lol:
I had a friend who when she was in 6th grade, wore size 13 mens shoes. Now she can barely find formal wear shoes...that's got to be freaking aggravating. What's with the tiny feet thing?
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Eh, there isn't really any easy way to tell if you're at a healthy weight. BMI is good for some people (I think I'm like 27 or 28 which seemed fine to me) but for others it can get out of wack as can just using your weight. Basically the real thing is if you can handle intense physical activity or not, not some random number. Me, I'm 6'0'' 192, but I also play basketball, baseball, work out a fair amount, bike and walk a lot, etc so I don't bother worrying about BMI or weight or anything. As long as you feel good, that's probably what really counts. I used to be about ten pounds lighter for a while, but I was quite out of shape and didn't feel too great, feel much better now that I'm active again. Besides, you might just be a big boned type of person, I know I'm not tall but I've got wider shoulders so I'm naturally going to have a little more weight on me. The important thing is to keep that weight from being fat. Also, I hate looking for pants, no place sells 30X34s EVER it's annoying as hell.
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BMI has been discounted by many doctors, or so I've read. It's a useful tool for generalizing, but for specific measurements it's basically useless. Everyone else is doin' it, so...I'm about 5'8", 175 lbs, which gives me a BMI of roughly 26.6. That's in the overweight range, but that doesn't take into account the fact that I've got a thicker build than most, more muscle and bone than fat. That's also not to mention that I was about 190 (a BMI of nearly 29) due to greater muscle mass back when I was swimming, and was in far better shape than I currently am.
Meaning, any doctor who was to look at my swimming weight (and BMI) alone and tell me to stop hitting the Krispy Kremes and get off my fat ass would have been gravely mistaken. It's a better measure for those with a normal distribution of muscle, fat, and bone, a group which definitely does not include athletes.
As for body image...I'll just put it out there that I didn't consider myself fat at all, even since I stopped swimming, until I got to college. Has anyone on this forum ever BEEN to Arizona State? This place is Stepford if I ever saw it. A bunch of frickin' creepy-ass size-zero clones. *shudder* And that's not to bash on SayWhat, above, because your weight is a natural thing that you can't help in the least. Theirs, I presume, is the result of a diet that consists entirely of Red Bull, cocaine, and petty bitching. :-P
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Sorry, but you have to have a lot more muscle mass than any regular swimmer for your BMI to be that far off. You would still have a decent amount of fat.
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Shoe shopping sucks. They only stock up to 13's in my county. >.<
I have weight issues as a guy, and I'd probably end up being a bulimic if it weren't for the fact that I don't have a gag reflex.
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As for body image...I'll just put it out there that I didn't consider myself fat at all, even since I stopped swimming, until I got to college. Has anyone on this forum ever BEEN to Arizona State? This place is Stepford if I ever saw it. A bunch of frickin' creepy-ass size-zero clones. *shudder* And that's not to bash on SayWhat, above, because your weight is a natural thing that you can't help in the least. Theirs, I presume, is the result of a diet that consists entirely of Red Bull, cocaine, and petty bitching. :-P
What the hell? The entire point of diets, and half of the health industry is based on the fact that you CAN HELP YOUR WEIGHT. Even people who are skinny and tiny, if they eat a highcarb diet and go to the fitness to work this up into muscle can gain weight. And if you weigh too much it's nothing exercise and a decent diet cant help. Why else would people with the obesity gene (not the trait, but the real gene) be able to stay among the skinnier of the fatter people? If not by working out and eating healthy they can manage their weight (even though they have a disease that makes them fatter).
and if you have a BMI of 29 just because of your muscle mass, you aint no swimmer you're a friggin bodybuilder, lay of the steroids.
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Most of my female-friends are like Faye* in appearance, (and one including temperment). I myself dislike (the appearance) of overly-skinny women (who do that to themselves on purpose, not meaning people who can't help it) As a matter of a fact, two of my skinny friends hate being that, and no matter what they eat, they will never become as fat as Faye, just because of biological disorders. People call them Anemic, when they aren't. Anyway, I'm going off track.
The female figure now-a-days is protrayed as being slim, and slim being sexy. Faye (while being my definition of sexy), is more like the modern woman. Though she herself is a little prettier than 55% of the female population. Anyway, Jeph's comic won me over for how he portrayed everyone's different personalities, down to their figure. Faye is a great example.
*She is also my favorite character.
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Sorry to disrupt the weight discussion, but have any of you noticed (primarily referenced in the last two comics) how lazy Faye has been? Either that or she is a compulsive liar/ has responsibility issues. She says first that it's Penny's turn to clean up blood, then she shunts blood-cleaning off onto Raven (could be vise-versa, cba to check). What the hell? Stop being lazy Faye and clean up the damn blood.
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You clean up the damn blood! It's all yours, anyways!
And quit passing out!
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You know why skinny women are portrayed by the media as being sexy? Because people will always pick the most unique things to be called beautiful. The problem isnt that Faye is not skinny enough, the problem is that most modern people are getting fatter. and the skinny people are slowly but steadily disappearing into a forest fo chubbiness. (example: the USA has now more morbidly obese people, then overweight people. With morbidly obese being, so fat your life is actually in danger, if you want an inaccurate BMI : 28+) In England the average weight of a person has gone up by a third in the last 5 years alone.
Now I wouldn't be opposed if it was just people getting fatter, but there's huge healthrisks involved, more so for woman who grow fat at an early age. A woman will menstruate for the first time as soon as her bodyfat reaches a certain level. And the longer between your first period and your first baby, the higher your chances for breastcancer (and this at an almost exponential rate). As girls are getting fatter faster, they'll have their first period at around the age of 11, 12 now, but they wont have a child until they're in their late 20's or early 30's. So please do not dismiss being overweight or even worse being morbidly obese, as something you cant help. You can help anything if you want it enough
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I don't know if I have been hanging around Discuss for too long, but can we get some sources for this information you're spouting? I would think that going through puberty would have more influence on when a girl gets her first period than her body weight. Some website or articles would be nice so that it doesn't sound like you are making up random bullshit.
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Most girls menstruate once every 4 weeks, give or take. Fat girls menstrate every 4 minutes. Due to their BMI being so much higher, their body is constantly trying to get rid of extra weight, so they continually menstrate since most of them won't be trying to fertalize any children any time soon. Unfortunately since they eat more, it balances out.
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In England the average weight of a person has gone up by a third in the last 5 years alone.
Where on earth did you get that frankly absurd figure? All I can find (quickly) is a 2004 survey (http://clippednews.wordpress.com/2004/09/02/people-are-bigger-now/) that showed that the average UK female's weight had risen from 61.5kg to 65kg over the previous 50 years. As a guess, are you perhaps misreading a statement that the number of obese people has gone up by a third?
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In England the average weight of a person has gone up by a third in the last 5 years alone.
What
A woman will menstruate for the first time as soon as her bodyfat reaches a certain level.
What?
Fat girls menstrate every 4 minutes.
What?!
What is going on in this thread?
Let's make a rule: no more posting silly medical claims without links to reputable sources. Hell, any source at all would be useful.
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Fat women do menstrate every 4 minutes. It's a fact. Like Sex Panther. It works. Trust me, I'm a doctor.
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Girls are getting their first period younger and younger, the main reason is prosperity and not because puberty starts kicking in early. The female hormonal cycle that causes ovulation and accordingly menstruation jumpstarts when that girls bodyfat reaches a certain level, this is a scientific proven fact.
quote from: http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0617.htm
"The first menstrual period of an adolescent girl is known as the menarche. Studies have proven that intense exercise can delay the onset of menarche by disrupting the hormonal patterns that control menstruation. A girl who has not reached menarche by age 15 would be considered abnormal by most doctors. But this does not necessarily imply that she has a medical problem. She may be a late starter for genetic reasons. Or it could be that her exercise habit has kept her body fat levels below what is needed to trigger menstruation."
quote from: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0675/is_6_20/ai_94981928
"Why, given a group of women with similar exercise programs and low percentages of body fat, do some experience menstrual problems and others do not? The answer usually relates to nutrition. Women with amenorrhea may be striving to maintain a weight lower than appropriate for their genetics. When the cost of achieving this desired leanness is inadequate nutrition, menstruation will cease."
As both articles clearly state a woman with her bodyfat below a certain level (depending on her genetics) will not menstruate. So if a girl would stay below that weight she would never menstruate. Because of our prosperity we gain more bodyfat and thus modern girls menstruate sooner. Because if keeping somebody from reaching a certain amount of bodyfat prevents menstruation, allowing her to reach that bodyfat at an earlier then normal age, will allow menstruation to start op sooner then is to be expected naturally.
The link between breastcancer and early first period, late first child is simply explained due to hormones. The longer a woman waits before getting her first child the longer her body is exposed to the hormones,
quote from:
"Pregnancy-Related Factors that Protect Against Breast Cancer
Some factors associated with pregnancy are known to reduce a woman’s chance of developing breast cancer later in life:
The younger a woman has her first child, the lower her risk of developing breast cancer during her lifetime.
A woman who has her first child after the age of 35 has approximately twice the risk of developing breast cancer as a woman who has a child before age 20.
A woman who has her first child around age 30 has approximately the same lifetime risk of developing breast cancer as a woman who has never given birth.
Having more than one child decreases a woman’s chances of developing breast cancer. In particular, having more than one child at a younger age decreases a woman’s chances of developing breast cancer during her lifetime.
Although not fully understood, research suggests that pre-eclampsia, a pathologic condition that sometimes develops during pregnancy, is associated with a decrease in breast cancer risk in the offspring, and there is some evidence of a protective effect for the mother.
After pregnancy, breastfeeding for a long period of time (for example, a year or longer) further reduces breast cancer risk by a small amount."
"Other Breast Cancer Risk Factors Not Related to Pregnancy
At present, other factors known to increase a woman’s chance of developing breast cancer include age (a woman’s chances of getting breast cancer increase as she gets older), a family history of breast cancer in a first degree relative (mother, sister, or daughter), an early age at first menstrual period (before age 12), a late age at menopause (after age 55), use of menopausal hormone replacement drugs, and certain breast conditions."
I could have misread the how fat english have become article. And that people with obesity have grown by 33% instead of the average weight going up.
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I too consider Faye's build to be the sexiest, especially in real life. Helps that I'm an ass man. ;)
My ex has a figure rather like that. Smaller boobs though... but she has a great butt, which is pretty much all I need for physical attraction. ;) (Had mental attraction long before I even knew what she looked like)
Though since we were in an internet relationship and she had a crappy camera I never really got a good look at the rest of her body (besides her face) until a while after we broke up*, when she got herself a pretty good camera... and damn.
*But still good friends, which is why I've even seen her pictures.
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she really needs to lay off the donuts.
Like hell. Butts are supposed to jiggle.
jiggle, not tremble like mexico city in an earthquake.
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Personally, I appreciate the portrayal of Faye.
I'm with all the others here who have said that they're Faye-ish in their figures. I actually like having my figure, as opposed to any other. I would personally find the pear or stick figures to be rather annoying.
Of course, I have my moments of raging insecurity, but once I tell my brain to shut up and sit in a corner, all is well again and I can appreciate that I have a figure that many of my friends would kill for.
And, honestly...I don't mind the occasional joke that Jeph throws out. For me, it's pretty much based on reality. My boobs are the center of dozens of jokes that my friends have told over the years. Maybe boobs are inherently funny.
But really, the jokes and the back and forth sarcasm is a reality for me, so I don't mind it being reflected in a comic. I paid my years as being the insecure fat girl in school. I just can't be bothered to care anymore if someone DOES really think that I am overweight. They can bite my big, luscious booty.
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jiggle, not tremble like mexico city in an earthquake.
Sez you.
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Fat women do menstrate every 4 minutes. It's a fact. Like Sex Panther. It works. Trust me, I'm a doctor.
He's... Dr. Tran.
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Fat women do menstrate every 4 minutes. It's a fact. Like Sex Panther. It works. Trust me, I'm a doctor.
He's... Dr. Tran.
So when are the hot, american dickings going to be handed out?
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Fat women do menstrate every 4 minutes. It's a fact. Like Sex Panther. It works. Trust me, I'm a doctor.
He's... Dr. Tran.
So when are the hot, american dickings going to be handed out?
Coming right up.
Wait, what?
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jiggle, not tremble like mexico city in an earthquake.
Sez you.
I sez it, therefore it is true.
lol, I like a girl with body. But too chubby is just not attractive.
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Fat women do menstrate every 4 minutes. It's a fact. Like Sex Panther. It works. Trust me, I'm a doctor.
He's... Dr. Tran.
So when are the hot, american dickings going to be handed out?
Coming right up.
Wait, what?
YOU AREN'T AMERICAN! I'll pass out those dickings.
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It's like speedlimits, your car maybe be able to drive more then 50 miles and still do it safely, but that doesnt mean your risk isnt increasing if you're doing over 50miles an hour.
Poor analogy, since if everyone else on the road is going at 60 miles per hour, your risk may actually be decreasing as you go up from 50 towards 60. Risk of an accident is more complicated than "moar speed = moar riskz"
BMI on the other hand is a fundamentally broken scale, and doesn't even mean what it claims to mean outside of a certain presumed height / body fat percentage range
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its not a broken scale.
*drumroll*
only really fat people can do that.
BMI essentially measures ratios which ultimately determines the weight placed on the preson.
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First off, Faye has some curve but isn't that big. I wish she was, but she isn't big, plump, or chubby and certainly not fat. This may not be true if the art style specifically makes people look thinner... but I don't quite get that feeling. I've seen a few plump characters in the background to confirm this.
Secondly, the BMI is extremely poor at rating anything. Body fat counts are a bit better. Still, the core concern is health. In that mind let us consider the actual meaningful 'numbers'.
Fat is used to store energy, vitamins and minerals. It is a needed component in a person's diet. It is also a needed component in a person's body. Without fat it is hard to absorb many of the vitamins and minerals that are needed to keep a healthy mind and body. Certain fats are especially needed for women in concerns of female cycles, child birth and breast feeding. Obviously there is another end of this as too much fat can cause concerns with blood pressure, cholesterol, and other micro systems (as macro systems. This doesn't mean minor). The reality of most of these concerns are rooted in this: lack of muscle work and calorie burning. An idle system will become addled.
TL;DR In other words, an active system that is taking in enough minerals, vitamins, and nutrients and can keep them till needed is healthy. This simply isn't something that can be measured, only striven for. You can see some possible evidence in things like weight, BMI etc., but these are educated guesses at best and more often deceptive.
Other than being healthy a person must be confident in their body and feel good in it. This can be done at almost any weight, but it is easier within the first standard deviation of the person's perceived world. Media represents a lower bell curve of weights than real life , though some portions are lower and some are higher. Since we usually see more people via media than via real life. Still, there are tons and tons of reasons why people can have a difficult time with their bodies.
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BMI essentially measures ratios which ultimately determines the weight placed on the preson.
Anything can measure ratios. But "height squared" is a meaningless quantity and thus so is any ratio based on it.
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Most of you who are saying you are "curvy like faye" are probably just fat. You know this right? That there is a difference, between fat and curvy?
You are probably fat.
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Awfully presumptuous.
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It's the internet, dude.
Plus, the best reason to idealize a "curvy" character is because she makes you feel better about your own fattness. Even though she's really fairly normal looking, maybe a little squishy, the fact that she is a fat chick in the world of the comic makes all the girls who eat their feelings find her hella relateable.
Trust me.
Fatties.
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The man posting above me speaks the truth. Honestly, she doesn't look much curvy, everyone else looks pretty skinny compared to her.
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As for body image...I'll just put it out there that I didn't consider myself fat at all, even since I stopped swimming, until I got to college. Has anyone on this forum ever BEEN to Arizona State? This place is Stepford if I ever saw it. A bunch of frickin' creepy-ass size-zero clones. *shudder* And that's not to bash on SayWhat, above, because your weight is a natural thing that you can't help in the least. Theirs, I presume, is the result of a diet that consists entirely of Red Bull, cocaine, and petty bitching. :-P
What the hell? The entire point of diets, and half of the health industry is based on the fact that you CAN HELP YOUR WEIGHT. Even people who are skinny and tiny, if they eat a highcarb diet and go to the fitness to work this up into muscle can gain weight. And if you weigh too much it's nothing exercise and a decent diet cant help. Why else would people with the obesity gene (not the trait, but the real gene) be able to stay among the skinnier of the fatter people? If not by working out and eating healthy they can manage their weight (even though they have a disease that makes them fatter).
and if you have a BMI of 29 just because of your muscle mass, you aint no swimmer you're a friggin bodybuilder, lay of the steroids.
I didn't say it was all because of my muscle mass. The actual figure I got was 28.8, and I took the liberty of rounding up to 29. This was a couple years ago, and I actually had more bone mass in those days, which has since declined due to an extreme estrogen deficiency caused by a hormone-secreting brain tumor. :laugh: Thanks for reminding me! Anyhow, I was overall larger then. I have slightly less fat now than I did then, but I also had way more muscle then and somewhat more bone mass. Thus, no 'roids.
And I was making the point that SayWhat has tried eating, tried everything, and can't gain weight. There's no reason for her to go about stuffing herself just to do so, since her doctor says she's fine. I wouldn't point to the popularity of diets as an indicator that one can "change". I'm with you on the morbidly obese, but some people are just skinny and shouldn't have to stuff themselves.
Did I just rant? I think I did. I'm sorry, internets. I'm sorry for ranting.
Oh, and more to the topic at hand, Faye's physique seems to change a bit over time. Normally, though, she looks just fairly curvy-ish. Not particularly chubby, or at least not to the point that she shouldn't visit an elephant seal colony during mating season.
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As for body image...I'll just put it out there that I didn't consider myself fat at all, even since I stopped swimming, until I got to college. Has anyone on this forum ever BEEN to Arizona State? This place is Stepford if I ever saw it. A bunch of frickin' creepy-ass size-zero clones. *shudder* And that's not to bash on SayWhat, above, because your weight is a natural thing that you can't help in the least. Theirs, I presume, is the result of a diet that consists entirely of Red Bull, cocaine, and petty bitching. :-P
What the hell? The entire point of diets, and half of the health industry is based on the fact that you CAN HELP YOUR WEIGHT. Even people who are skinny and tiny, if they eat a highcarb diet and go to the fitness to work this up into muscle can gain weight. And if you weigh too much it's nothing exercise and a decent diet cant help. Why else would people with the obesity gene (not the trait, but the real gene) be able to stay among the skinnier of the fatter people? If not by working out and eating healthy they can manage their weight (even though they have a disease that makes them fatter).
and if you have a BMI of 29 just because of your muscle mass, you aint no swimmer you're a friggin bodybuilder, lay of the steroids.
I didn't say it was all because of my muscle mass. The actual figure I got was 28.8, and I took the liberty of rounding up to 29. This was a couple years ago, and I actually had more bone mass in those days, which has since declined due to an extreme estrogen deficiency caused by a hormone-secreting brain tumor. :laugh: Thanks for reminding me! Anyhow, I was overall larger then. I have slightly less fat now than I did then, but I also had way more muscle then and somewhat more bone mass. Thus, no 'roids.
And I was making the point that SayWhat has tried eating, tried everything, and can't gain weight. There's no reason for her to go about stuffing herself just to do so, since her doctor says she's fine. I wouldn't point to the popularity of diets as an indicator that one can "change". I'm with you on the morbidly obese, but some people are just skinny and shouldn't have to stuff themselves.
Did I just rant? I think I did. I'm sorry, internets. I'm sorry for ranting.
Oh, and more to the topic at hand, Faye's physique seems to change a bit over time. Normally, though, she looks just fairly curvy-ish. Not particularly chubby, or at least not to the point that she shouldn't visit an elephant seal colony during mating season.
By getting a high-carb/high-protein diet and a lot of time in the gym you will create muscle mass. The only reason this wouldnt work is a complete lack of bodily functions that turn energy into fat and visa versa. SayWhat will never be chubby even if she follows this for years, but I'm quite sure she can gain enough wait and still not be required to overly stuff her face.
and if faye goes to an elephant seal colony I think she'd get mauled by the other females before getting some
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Apparently, I'll get chubby when I hit about 35 or so. *shrug*
I do some light working out, as much as my doctor tells me is alright (blah blah insert lame medical condition here). My issue though, is that I don't want muscle weight, I want curves. Squishy squish woman curves.
I want them. And by god, I will get them one day.
Till then, I walk/jog and lift light weights. I also like to hike and kayak. Kayaking is fun. So is swimming. So I'm skinny, but doc says I'm otherwise healthy and it isn't 'completely necessary' for me to gain 20 lbs, though he'd like to see me with, as he says "more body fat."
:oops: My goal weight is 115-120 lbs, being curvy, not muscle. I'm toned enough, I just want some squishy curves to go with it.
Squishsquishsquish.
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At 6' 3" and 235 lbs, I qualify as a "Big Dude." And while I have some fat, its not so much that I can't suck it in when I want to. I've got a lot of muscle, some of which is from swimming, the rest just sort of appeared out of nowhere. I don't work out much outside of swimming, but I can weight lift with the football team if I want too. My BMI comes out to 29.4, but I bet I can beat most of you in the pool, so I can't be that overweight.
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At 6' 3" and 235 lbs, I qualify as a "Big Dude."
You qualify as a "Brick Shithouse".
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The man posting above me speaks the truth. Honestly, she doesn't look much curvy, everyone else looks pretty skinny compared to her.
The man posting above him is a dick, but you get used to it. Don't take him seriously.
My father falls in the group of people that BMI says should be having a heart attack right now, but he really isn't in that bad shape. He is somewhat overweight, but he also was a defensive lineman playing football (american) in highschool, has worked manual labor all his life, does tai chi, and works 12+ hour days regularly.
I used to be considered just barely underweight by BMI, I was around 5'10"-6' and was 130-140 pounds. I've finally added some weight, though not as much of it as I would like is muscle. I never had any health issues at all (I usually fought off any illnesses longer than most people, still do), I just wasn't gaining weight as I grew. Now, I eat between 1000 and 1500 calories a day, usually in a couple small meals, and a few snacks, which aren't much smaller in amounts of calories than the meals. I'm just not hungry other than that, I've finally gotten over the always hungry state I was in for a while. I'm also very very inactive, though oddly enough, I have more endurance than I did when I used to go hiking just about every week.
My friend is noticeably stocky, she is probably 5'6" or so, and I don't know her weight (it isn't polite to inquire as to a lady's weight, but I just don't care to ask). She has been a bit stocky for a while, but it has gotten more noticeable in the past few years. She is pretty much the opposite of me, except for that she eats pretty frequently as well. She is extremely active, she swims, she bikes, she plays soccer, but she doesn't lose weight. She is in far better shape than me, but she doesn't look it in the least. I think for her, it is the genes, she is just built wider or something. Come to think of it, in her case, her constant exercise might be hurting her appearance more than helping. Female swimmers tend to have shoulders and upper arms like hers, they look fat, but aren't at all.
I have to say I like the skinnier look more, not the anorexic, just the athletic. Not quite to the point of Linda Hamilton in T2, but in that area.
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At 6' 3" and 235 lbs, I qualify as a "Big Dude." And while I have some fat, its not so much that I can't suck it in when I want to. I've got a lot of muscle, some of which is from swimming, the rest just sort of appeared out of nowhere. I don't work out much outside of swimming, but I can weight lift with the football team if I want too. My BMI comes out to 29.4, but I bet I can beat most of you in the pool, so I can't be that overweight.
maybe you just have heavy bones?
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There are people posting in this thread defending curvy girls.
Curvy is the nicer way of saying that she is fat
People posting in this thread like fat chicks.
Only fat people like fat chicks.
The people postin in this thread defending the look of faye are fat.
Really I'm just shitting it up because this isn't even a discussion about the comic character anymore.
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I'm the one who has to spend 6 hours shopping to find two pairs of freaking jeans.
Granted, it'd be easier to find jeans if I were shorter, but oh well.
Man. I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum from you but I feel your pain. I don't care much for BMI measurements, but sizewise I'm a 43-33-46 (chest-waist-hips) and just shy of 5'5". I'm in a limbo zone between petites and regular length, because the petites are just too short, and the regulars are just too long. So I either have to wear heels (which I have issues walking in :P) or hem every single pair of pants that I buy (or walk on the hems and tear them to shreds like usually ends up happening). So that, added to the fact that it's nearly impossible to find a pair of jeans that will comfortably fit my hips/thighs that doesn't have an extremely low wasit or gapes at the back and shows off my lovely skivvies.
I think it's ridiculous that pretty much all of mainstream fashion is directed towards the 5'6" 120lb type, yet it always seems to be the larger sizes that sell out the quickest. Some people never learn...
I've been seriously considering just making my own clothes just for this reason..
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But "height squared" is a meaningless quantity and thus so is any ratio based on it.
Height is correlated with width. Height times width equals area. Weight per area increases as people get thicker. So weight per height squared is not meaningless, just approximate and irretrievably flawed.
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I'm the one who has to spend 6 hours shopping to find two pairs of freaking jeans.
Granted, it'd be easier to find jeans if I were shorter, but oh well.
I think it's ridiculous that pretty much all of mainstream fashion is directed towards the 5'6" 120lb type, yet it always seems to be the larger sizes that sell out the quickest. Some people never learn...
Yes! And you know, I am pretty sure it takes ALL girls/women six hours to find jeans.
And to everyone saying fat is unhealthy, you do know there is a difference between being fat and being unhealthy, yes? Skinny people can be horribly out of shape and supposed-fat people can be incredibly in shape! They are different. For example I am typically referred to as "normal" (I am 5'9" and my weight fluctuates ridiculously between about 150 and 170 for no valid reason), and I am cool with my weight! But I am the most out of shape person I know. This is because of back problems I have right now that prevent any exercise, but after having surgery in March that should all change... blah blah blah... anyway, I "look" the part but am way unhealthy! So all those numbers are just really very silly to argue about. People are people.
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I'm the one who has to spend 6 hours shopping to find two pairs of freaking jeans.
Granted, it'd be easier to find jeans if I were shorter, but oh well.
Man. I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum from you but I feel your pain. I don't care much for BMI measurements, but sizewise I'm a 43-33-46 (chest-waist-hips) and just shy of 5'5". I'm in a limbo zone between petites and regular length, because the petites are just too short, and the regulars are just too long. So I either have to wear heels (which I have issues walking in :P) or hem every single pair of pants that I buy (or walk on the hems and tear them to shreds like usually ends up happening). So that, added to the fact that it's nearly impossible to find a pair of jeans that will comfortably fit my hips/thighs that doesn't have an extremely low wasit or gapes at the back and shows off my lovely skivvies.
I think it's ridiculous that pretty much all of mainstream fashion is directed towards the 5'6" 120lb type, yet it always seems to be the larger sizes that sell out the quickest. Some people never learn...
I've been seriously considering just making my own clothes just for this reason..
If I could sew without attaching myself to the clothing, that would be awesome. I'd be making my own damn prom dress, for one, instead of buying it and then paying to get it altered.
I thought I was one of the only girls who had issues walking in heels. I'm so ungraceful at it. Lol.
What really aggravated me was that for our senior hoodies, I had a choice of Huge, freaking huge, and fucking tent for the sizes. The small was ginormous, and there was no x-small.
But there's a XXX-L. Wtf.
Emmaleigh makes a really good point. Since an 18.5 is considered 'underweight' and below that, I'm supposedly way unhealthy and probably bulimic/anorexic. However I'm fairly active and eat often and mostly balanced (I could use more vegetables, I guess) meals. Granted I don't have as much muscle weight as I could but that's because a) I'm not really interested in muscle weight and b)strenuous physical activity that would really build up muscle mass is out of the question. But I'm not going to die of heart failure anytime soon.
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There are people posting in this thread defending curvy girls.
Curvy is the nicer way of saying that she is fat
1. "Curvy," in my book, means "hourglass." Being 5-foot-6 and weighing 160 pounds doesn't make you "curvy." Being 5-foot-6, weighing 160 pounds and having a 28-inch waist above your 40-inch hips makes you "curvy." If you have an apple-shaped or rectangular build, you're not "curvy."
Faye is absolutely curvy, though I can't vouch for the other posters who claim that they are.
2. BMI is broken because, for similar body type and build, body mass varies by cube of height, not by square of height. For a better indicator, divide weight in pounds by cube of height in feet. The healthiest wt/ht3 for an adult woman is between 0.75 and 0.85, for an adult man between 0.8 and 0.9. If your wt/ht3 is above 1 (woman) or 1.05 (man), you need very much to lose weight.
Unfortunately, while the media idealize a healthy weight in men, the "visual ideal" for women is wt/ht3 of 0.65 to 0.7.
Dora and Hannelore look to have a wt/ht3 of about 0.6, Penelope about 0.7. Faye, I'd guess to be around 0.9, maybe 0.95.
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What are the units of measure?
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What are the units of measure?
The units in Catbus's proposed version are lb/ft^3 (≈ 16 kg/m^3) - but keep in mind this isn't density - it would be density if you weighed the same but were shaped like a cube 6ish feet on each side.
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Which reminds me: Muscle is denser than fat, so if you have a very low body fat percentage, your wt/ht3 will be higher than it would be for a more sedentary person with a similar build.
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If your BMI (weight in kg/ (length in meters x length in meters) )is higher then 25 though you have a problem, and should really go consult a dietist, if you're topping 30 you're expected to not live another 10years without medical help required.
BMI is among the worst measures of health in the world. I am an eighteen year old male. I am six feet two, two hundred and fifty four pounds. This makes my BMI somewhere in the range of 31-32. I can bench press 275 pounds and, despite being "obese" according to BMI, I can still run three eight-minute miles consecutively. I have some love handles and slight manboobs, but I am not obese. BMI was designed long before modern nutrition and weight training were discovered or used extensively. The only real accurate measure of health in this sense is body fat percentage.
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S: I've never understood it. How does me being twiggy bother other people so much, to the point where they insult me over it? I'm the one who has to spend 6 hours shopping to find two pairs of freaking jeans.
Granted, it'd be easier to find jeans if I were shorter, but oh well.
I think we have the same problem. But I'm about 5 foot one and chubby. Haha.
My dad married my mom mostly because she could pack away food. She was a skinny little thing, too.
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Most of my female-friends are like Faye* in appearance, (and one including temperment). I myself dislike (the appearance) of overly-skinny women (who do that to themselves on purpose, not meaning people who can't help it) As a matter of a fact, two of my skinny friends hate being that, and no matter what they eat, they will never become as fat as Faye, just because of biological disorders. People call them Anemic, when they aren't.
Anemic, they probably are. Anorexic, maybe not. Anemia is SO under-diagnosed. I'm terribly anemic. Boo for vegetarianism. Haha.
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Wow... this turned into a discussion of mathematics and biology. I thought I left that shit behind in high school and then college.
The best indicator for whether you are fat, curvy, skinny, or whatever is how you look and feel. If you look in the mirror and feel like you look good, you have no health issues, then you are what you are. There's nothing wrong with it.
If not, then work on it. You are who you are. No one else can make you feel good about you. No number is going to fix it for you. Learn to appreciate yourself for who you and get on with your life. Say What has had a few good posts on here and maybe that's a good indication of what people should shoot for. Have an idea about where you want to be and be happy about where you are on your journey to that point...
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tiiiiiiits
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Most of my female-friends are like Faye* in appearance, (and one including temperment). I myself dislike (the appearance) of overly-skinny women (who do that to themselves on purpose, not meaning people who can't help it) As a matter of a fact, two of my skinny friends hate being that, and no matter what they eat, they will never become as fat as Faye, just because of biological disorders. People call them Anemic, when they aren't.
Anemic, they probably are. Anorexic, maybe not. Anemia is SO under-diagnosed. I'm terribly anemic. Boo for vegetarianism. Haha.
Doc did say anemia was a possibility, but that he wasn't too worried about it. Just ragged on me to get plenty of protein and eat healthy.
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His statement implies fat people are bitchy more often than other people, which isn't true - they just have one more thing to bitch about.
having an extra reason to bitch, doesnt mean you have to, especially if the only person you should be bitching too is yourself. People are being a hypocrit if they say they're obese or anorexic cause of the media. If the media told us to shoot ourselves, would 80% of the anorexics commit suicide? You still decide on your own, people always cling to the I'm sick card to avoid dealing with their problems on their own. I never saw media make someone skinny.
My area of research is the eating disorders. No one with any real etiologic knowledge of EDs would ever claim the media cause them. It's a (relatively small) part of their development, absolutely, but no one would call it a direct causal factor. The introduction of TV to a remote area of Fiji did cause a spike in bulimia with young females saying that they wanted to look like the girls they saw on TV; it DOES contribute somewhat. The "I'm sick card" is a real one--they really are quite sick. Reading between the lines here, I feel as though the implication is that this is something they flippantly choose to do to themselves. But that is not the case at all. The EDs follow the same developmental course as most other psychological disorders: diathesis & stress. A combination of factors that are biological (neurological, i.e. within the ventromedial hypothalamus & substantia nigra; chemical, i.e. 5-HT levels; genetic), environmental (i.e. the "anorexogenic" family; traumatic incidents), personal (i.e. lack of other coping strategies), AND cultural (i.e. very skinny people on TV) in nature "cause" the disorders.
If you like, I could recommend to you some good research-based books on the subject that might help deepen your understanding of these illnesses.
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You know, when people say they like "curvy" women, I gotta agree with Catbus. They want hourglass. I'm on the slim side, but I have boobs and hips. This makes me curvy, but I am, by no means, remotely apple-shaped. I've been told by many people that I have a desirable body shape. I went through a period of time when I was tiny, due to a medication I was on. Could not gain weight. I looked so unhealthy, especially in the face. Now, I'm still tiny, but I have meat on my bones where I should, and I'm constantly complimented on my weight. I was a similar weight/shape in 11th grade, and I was about a 4-6 then. They've definitely vanity sized in 8 years, as my 4s and 6s still fit!
I have to agree with people that are tiny having a difficulty finding pants. I'm ~ US size 2 (It should be noted I'm 5'2 1/2, and am well within my weight range), but I have long legs, so I can't wear petites. Add in that I do, in fact, have a butt and hips, it makes it increasingly difficult to find pants. Trust me, they rarely make "curvy" jeans in a size 2. I cannot find things in normal department stores that fit me, however.
Faye's a lucky one, because she has the boobs and the butt most people want. I wouldn't call her body type overweight at all, because she doesn't look pudgy. If she was real, I bet she would have a heck of a time finding pants that fit her, though!
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Y'know, I've never encountered a girl that said, "Yeah, I went into the store, saw [article of clothing] that I liked, tried it on, and it fit perfectly.
Frankly, women are a delight of infinite variety and they should stage a violent revolution to bring back the career of "tailor", an individual who makes clothes to custom fit.
Why? Because women spend too much time complaining about how if they find clothes that fit they're legs, they're too wide in the hips/that fit their hips they're too long in the leg/fit their boobs but have arms meant for an orangutan/can only wear moo moos because Ralph Lauren is a dumbass. Women should be free to complain about their boyfriends, god-dammit!
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Why? Because women spend too much time complaining about how if they find clothes that fit they're legs, they're too wide in the hips/that fit their hips they're too long in the leg/fit their boobs but have arms meant for an orangutan/can only wear moo moos because Ralph Lauren is a dumbass. Women should be free to complain about their boyfriends, god-dammit!
My pants fit my waist, but they won't fit my hips, or they are too darn short. I maybe 5'7", but my legs are longer than most 6' plus people I know. But, apparently, if you have long legs, you must also either be fat or really skinnny....none of that in the middle. Don't even get me started on shirts. My good old 36-C/D's (they are right on the cusp depending on current weight and such) don't let any shirts fit right.
I want to be a comic character. That way, even if I have boobs and hips, I can still have clothes that fit and are always flattering!
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Don't even get me started on shirts. My good old 36-C/D's (they are right on the cusp depending on current weight and such) don't let any shirts fit right.
I've always wondered who designs women's dress shirts. It's like, unless you have no tits, you can't fit into a dress shirt that is actually the proper size for you. Ironically, my girlfriend thinks she's "fat" because she has trouble finding dress shirts that fit, but usually the problem is just that her boobs are too big so she can't button up the shirt. If she was flat-chested, the shirt would fit perfectly. She's stuck wearing either more casual clothes or dress shirts that too big for her.
Of course, us guys sometimes have problems like that. I often have to buy shirts that are a size too big because the "proper" size doesn't fit my shoulders properly. I've got broad shoulders, but I'm not a particularly large guy, so if a shirt fits my shoulders, it probably looks baggy on the rest of my torso.
Getting back to the point of this post, though: Yes, Faye is curvy. She has an hour-glass figure. She is not fat. If she was a real person she'd probably be pretty hot, whereas most of the other QC women would be skinny to the point that I, personally, would probably not find them attractive. And that's about as far as I'm willing to go with that because I don't want to sound like one of the creepy "I wanna see Hanners naked" people.
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Y'know, I've never encountered a girl that said, "Yeah, I went into the store, saw [article of clothing] that I liked, tried it on, and it fit perfectly.
I've had items of clothing fit perfectly. Rarely, but it happens, but I never end up buying them, usually for one reason.
They're too exposing. I'm not someone who is comfortable exposing skin. I will wear jeans in 100+ degree weather with 80+% humidity because I hate wearing shorts and/or skirts. Swimsuits that fit me are usually bikinis, with those leetle teeny bottoms.
I have the figure for bikinis (although I could use more in the chest area), but I'm just not comfortable wearing them. I'd rather wear clothing that doesn't fit so well but keeps me covered than clothing that fits perfectly but shows too much skin.
From shoulders down, I am pretty much entirely covered by fabric.
This means I have to go shopping by myself, because my friends always shove various items of clothing at me, with exclamations of "This is so cute! You would look awesome!" and it's a pair of short shorts. Lol.
Faye is hourglass figured, and that is, honestly, the most attractive female bodytype for me. However, given the choice between a bodytype like mine, and someone who is 'chubby' but not hourglass shaped (say like, an apple or something) I go for the apples. If I weren't me, I wouldn't date me. Waaaay too skinny. Faye's body is, physically the most attractive.
For instance, Jessica Simpson apparently gained some weight recently. People were goin' nuts calling her fat etc, but I honestly thought she was really hot with the extra weight.
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Dora's personality in Faye's body would be like the ultimate woman or somethin'
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well if you ask me Faye is more pear shaped then hourglass shaped, unless her breasts get bigger or her hips smaller, she's still going to be a pear. Dora would need bigger breasts and she'd be an hourglass as well, as do Hanners and Penelope. None of them have the oh so desirable hourglass shape.
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Well, my father is fat, has a big belly, but is incredible strong and doesn't have any health problems. I'm skinny, I can't lift any weight, my stomach is always complaining if I start to eat something I'm not used too.
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Roarrrr threads like this will be the death of me.
I'm 5'5" and around 108. I think? I might still be around 105. I try not to weigh myself.
I don't have an eating disorder right now, but I did. It's not something I chose to have and the fact that all these people are saying that if you're not curvy there's something wrong with you, but that curvy people shouldn't be seen as fat and judged on their bodies is just really condescending.
I'm not going to blame the media for my problems, but if I didn't get flat stomachs and no body fat shoved in my face as the beautiful way to be, it'd at least be easier to see myself as beautiful how I am. I'm not saying the media caused it, but the media played a part in the obsession.
And it's not like I wanted an eating disorder, or I chose to have one.
I'm sick of people saying that people who've had eating disorders or are that thin are gross, and that people who are curvy are good. Can't you just not judge on that? Being judged on your weight is never fun, and the problem with people who shove their curvy love down your throats is that they're doing something right by not going for what the media portrays.
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I was under the impression the media and fashionistas preferred rail-thin famine victims to beached whales.
Regardless, it's up to what that person perceives as attractive. I myself like big boobs and wide hips. Some guys like very petite women. Some like excess baggage on theirs, with some liking a little and some liking a lot.
Maybe you should pay less attention to what people think.
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Maybe you should pay less attention to what people think.
This is absolutely true.
I'm 5 foot two, wide hips (roughly a size eight), double D boobs, and a thirty-one inch waist. Which is pretty damned hourglass. But I'm kinda homely, honestly. I don't take time with what I wear and I rarely wear makeup. Luckily, that helps me pick out the lads who like my personality, not just my body.
And it bugs the shit out of me that people are ragging on those with eating disorders... it is like addiction (bad example, but clinically...). You didn't choose it. It is an illness. And you CANNOT get out of it alone.
Just looking in the mirror will not help you decide whether you are healthy or not. The slimmest, most unhealthily thin anorexic will look in the mirror and see fat. I look in the mirror and see, well, okay, good enough. I'm disappointed that I lost my swimmer's muscle tone and I'm working on getting it back... damn.
In any case, if you or someone you love is being affected by a change in food intake due to negative body image, please refer to this link. And all that. Yeah.
http://www.edreferral.com/
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And it bugs the shit out of me that people are ragging on those with eating disorders...
it's presumptuous to think that anyone's who's very skinny has an eating disorder (unless i've missed a few posts, i get the impression that people aren't actually having a go at people with eating disorders, but just saying they don't like skinny girls), but still, anyone who's doing that is not only an asshole, but (hopefully) in the minority. i mean, i mentioned at the start of the thread that i prefer curvier girls, but that's not to say i don't find skinny girls attractive too. at the end of the day, it's the personality that counts for the most.
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at the end of the day, it's the personality that counts for the most.
No, it isn't. People will always say it is, because they don't like to feel shallow, but we're all just kidding ourselves.
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at the end of the day, it's the personality that counts for the most.
No, it isn't. People will always say it is, because they don't like to feel shallow, but we're all just kidding ourselves.
speak for yourself. i look at it like this - appearance is usually what will attract you to someone in the first place, as it's the only point of reference for someone you don't know. but it's personality that'll decide whether you wanna be involved with them any further.
i know a few incredibly hot girls, who i can't bring myself to view as attractive because they're such miserable bitches. and at the same, a few of the girls i've been attracted to in the past have not, upon reflection, been as attractive as i'd thought, but their great personalities had made them seem more attractive than they probably were.
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And it bugs the shit out of me that people are ragging on those with eating disorders...
it's presumptuous to think that anyone's who's very skinny has an eating disorder (unless i've missed a few posts, i get the impression that people aren't actually having a go at people with eating disorders, but just saying they don't like skinny girls), but still, anyone who's doing that is not only an asshole, but (hopefully) in the minority. i mean, i mentioned at the start of the thread that i prefer curvier girls, but that's not to say i don't find skinny girls attractive too. at the end of the day, it's the personality that counts for the most.
It has indeed deteriorated into that, around the end of the first page, I think.... but I'm way to lazy to go back and look.
The obligatory "eat a sandwich" comment was immediately followed by the skinny lasses on here going "HEYYYYY" as well they should.
And, about your next post, absolutely. I see no one as attractive (at all) before I get to know them, and I am repulsed by people with bad personalities. So if I talk with someone for a while, when they walk away, I might say "God, he's pretty hot." while whoever I'm with is thinking, "Wow, what a fugly dude."
That's just me though.
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Not just you, trust me. Physical attractiveness is important, I'm not going to deny that. I have this 'thing' about body hair, I just cannot stand it. At all.
At least I couldn't, until I found the guy I'm with now. He's so sweet and funny, and he kind of just 'gets me', that even though he has chest hair, I find myself able to ignore it because his personality and the way he cares for me trumps something that grosses me out immensely.
There's this guy at my school however, who I absolutely cannot stand. He's a homophobic, racist asshole. He, however, has the body of a male model. Utterly gorgeous. But his attitude and behavior make him so unattractive to me because I just cannot stand him. I nearly beat him upside the head with a textbook because he was mouthing off and I just wanted to smash him.
There's also nothing wrong with saying that you prefer curvier chicks. I personally do as well. When that crosses over into rudeness, though, is instead of saying "I like hourglass women" you say "Skinny women are just so disgusting. Those anorexic whores! Only women with curves are real women!" and etc.
That's when it pisses people off. Nothing wrong with saying one type of body is beautiful, I believe we, as a society, need to reinforce that curvier women are beautiful too.
The way to do that, however, is not to tear down skinny women. Phrases like "Real women have curves" are insulting and rude. I don't understand why we can't just promote both body types, or hell, all healthy body types as being beautiful. This may sound too after school special, but I don't think we need to tear down others to make ourselves feel better. Y'know?
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somebody needs to make a thread "Marten is a twig," if it doesn't already exist. i know maybe two boys built like him. but I digress.
Faye is in fact curvy. There aren't any girls in the comic right now who are above maybe a size 6 and that's ok with me. I draw people a lot, comics and notcomics, and very thin people are just much easier to draw. There's less squash/stretch to worry about, and there's less advanced anatomy to worry about in order to go from stick figure planning to realistic-ish drawing. The same goes for very muscular characters. Probably why (with plenty of good exceptions out there) most comic characters are very thin or drawn in a style which depicts everyone as twiggy.
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I agree, but I could do without the fat jokes. In real life, Faye would be a petite girl with big knockers and hips, the rest of the women would be in an eating disorder ward. Yeah, I know, it's just a comic and not drawn to scale, but it still sorta irks me as a big knocker girl.
hey, don't sweat it - if you've got a faye-esque figure, be happy. speaking for myself and, i think, most guys, yours is the most attractive kinda figure.
I'm just glad you said most. at the end of the day, it's the personality that counts for the most.
No, it isn't. People will always say it is, because they don't like to feel shallow, but we're all just kidding ourselves.
Yeah, no. Looks are important. This is true. But as has been stated, personality trumps all. I wouldn't go out with a lady who thought the Holocaust was a TOTALLY COOL EVENT and who burns crosses on Sunday or whatever, because that's some fucked up stuff.
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Well, the looks is the must important thing until the other person hopen his/her mouth. After that, if he/she is a total creep, no good look will save the bad impression, if the person is a normal, several factors will influence the opinion about the person (the mood of both people, having similar tastes or having too much diferent opinions, etc).
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Yes to this thread topic.
all these discussions are redundant.
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Well, the looks is the must important thing until the other person hopen his/her mouth. After that, if he/she is a total creep, no good look will save the bad impression, if the person is a normal, several factors will influence the opinion about the person (the mood of both people, having similar tastes or having too much diferent opinions, etc).
This is certainly true for most people.
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Kind of off-topic, but does anyone else get the impression that Penelope used to be fat? She's obsessed with exercise, is kind of oblivious when guys are attracted to her, and she (at least previously) would hide behind the big glasses. She also got incredibly defensive when Faye joked about her "junk in the trunk." Kinda seems like she is an ex fat kid.
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most girls are chunky when they are kids, they are the ones that grow into fuckin hot girls, and aren't stupid entitled bitches.
most girls that are hot the entire time end up druggies or in abusive stupid relationships because they cant get out of the mental age of 16
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Dont hate on the skinny girls, we dont hate the curvy.
I don't hate skinny girls; it's just that as a straight male, I don't find boyish figures sexually attractive.
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most girls are chunky when they are kids, they are the ones that grow into fuckin hot girls, and aren't stupid entitled bitches.
most girls that are hot the entire time end up druggies or in abusive stupid relationships because they cant get out of the mental age of 16
With stereotyped views like that, the question is whether you will even reach a mental age of 16. Sorry if that comes over offensive, but really...
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Yeah, that is a pretty unwelcome attitude, championofkhorne.
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WELCOME TO THE INTERNET BISNITCHS
btw im not serious i just be trollin
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im not serious i just be trollin
Is that really how you want to present yourself to the world? - do you have no higher aspiration?
Just wondering really. In 20 years (yes, for real) of using the Internet, I have never understood why people find making fools of themselves in front of the whole world such an attractive pastime.
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im not serious i just be trollin
Is that really how you want to present yourself to the world? - do you have no higher aspiration?
Just wondering really. In 20 years (yes, for real) of using the Internet, I have never understood why people find making fools of themselves in front of the whole world such an attractive pastime.
No repercussions. They can do whatever they want and suffer nothing for their actions, and that's an attractive prospect to some.
Speaking of attractive...
Dont hate on the skinny girls, we dont hate the curvy.
I don't hate skinny girls; it's just that as a straight male, I don't find boyish figures sexually attractive.
There is no need for hatin' between the two groups. Some of us (myself included) like boyish figures, and some of us (like the dude above) do not, and that is completely okay.
/afterschool special
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im not serious i just be trollin
Is that really how you want to present yourself to the world? - do you have no higher aspiration?
Just wondering really. In 20 years (yes, for real) of using the Internet, I have never understood why people find making fools of themselves in front of the whole world such an attractive pastime.
It makes the conversation more interesting if you have a devil's advocate. It is also entertaining to see how serious people take others on the internet even after 20 years of proof that no one on the internet should be taken seriously
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It makes the conversation more interesting if you have a devil's advocate.
Only sometimes - I do it myself a fair bit in meat life, but it doesn't work as well on the Internet I find.
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It works ESPECIALLY WELL on the internet
it works TOO WELL is the problem.
because while it is true that people are more insulting on the internet, peopl also get more insulted over the internet.
you say "some guy messed his head up by running into a pole" on the internet and it is like "omg is he ok"
but you see some guy run full speed into a pole then you laugh your ass off.
so it goes both ways really