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Fun Stuff => ENJOY => Topic started by: RedLion on 18 Dec 2008, 12:46
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So apparently they're making a big-budget hollywood blockbuster Tintin movie.
My reaction to this: why the hell? I grew up reading those comic strip books, but they were pretty old even back then they were dated.
There's a (ridiculously) in-depth article about Tintin here (http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12795471)
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My prediction is that it could be good, but it won't be.
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Guys, let's all be rabid internet fanboys, and protest them being untrue to the source material when they decide not to include over the top racist caricatures :lol:
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I got high hopes. I like Tin tin
But the fact that it's Hollywood doing kinda got me worried. It would be good in its native Belgium
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Kerbled (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,19954.0.html)
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I thought I'd mention that the French law mentioned by the article was unusual mostly in the way it was executed, not in its intentions. The US had its own Comics Code Authority that had many similar rules and ended up working as a de facto method of censorship. There wasn't anything as draconian as criminal measures inflicted for defying the CCA regulations, but not being approved by them meant that the majority of distributors wouldn't touch your work. It pretty much annihilated several companies and subsequently encouraged an independent comic movement.
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Tintin taught me French!
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no more needs to be said than THIS: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0b6hUlJTTXw (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0b6hUlJTTXw)
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Man that article made me not want to read or see TinTin ever.
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Tintin taught me racism!
So, except for the Tintin in Congo book, what are you basing this on?
The way Herge wrote and drew was just the general mindset at the time, the 1930s. Yes, it was racist, but it wasn't out of place. Actually, the book was remarkedly light-racist compared to some view points at the time and place. (This is something that I'm pretty ashamed of about Belgium, but it's true that there was barely any resistance the German occupation once they were there - I recommend 'The Sorrow of Belgium' as a pretty good read).
From the third book onwards (I don't even remember any in the second book, except for where the native americans are driven of their land for oil?), there is barely any racism at all. One of Tintin's best friends is Chinese, Tintin travels all over the world exploring new cultures, bla bla bla. They're fun comics, but somehow, like people do, there is this immense focus on the negative aspects portrayed in the earlier work.
(Also, reading those strips in the Economist in English was just weird)
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the only tin tin that i have ever known is really bad cartoons on early morning tv. :|
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Maybe it's because of the movie, but it seems there's been a hell of a lot of renewed interest in Tintin over the past year. There were two panels about it at SPX (well, one was about Franco-Belgian comics in general, but Tintin got a lot of attention), and my comic book store put up a Tintin display.
I've only flipped through them, but I don't think the racism is any worse than anything else from the 1930s: that is, it's pretty fuckin' racist, but you have to take it in context. It is certainly not as bad as the stuff Herr Disney was producing.
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I have to say that reading through The Blue Lotus (a few years ago), I didn't really notice what I could recognize as racism, I'm sure there was some there, but I didn't notice it, so do you think someone of the age it was aimed at would notice? As a little kid, I would have thought "Huh, these guys are drawn kind of funny."
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I'd like to point out that there is a difference between prejudice and racism. Racism is an outright belief that being of a particular race makes you superior. Racial prejudice is often misguided and ignorant but is not necessarily malicious. There's a difference between thinking that all black people eat chicken and watermelon every day and thinking they're sub-human. Functionally, it's an often pointless distinction to make since assigning people traits based on skin or origin is typically counterproductive anyway, but it is a thought to keep in the back of your head when dealing with fiction from earlier periods in history when certain mores were often accepted out of hand by the general public.
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Kerbled (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,19954.0.html)
And how old is that thread?
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So Jamie Bell is Tintin
Story here. (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=24066)
What has me excited for this film is Simon Pegg and Nick Frost as The Thompson Twins.
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no more needs to be said than THIS: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0b6hUlJTTXw (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0b6hUlJTTXw)
DO WANT!
In all seriousness though, I vaguely remember them showing TinTin on Nickelodeon when I was like, four or something, and even then, I remembered thinking, "Man, this show sucks."
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I am all for raising dead threads, because there is now more information on this movie.
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=29355
I don't think I'm a fan of the animation. I guess I'll have to see the entire movie to judge it, but Tintin in that one shot on the cover looks odd, although maybe accurate. Haddock looks spot on though.
And Simon Pegg and Nick Frost play Thomson and Thompson?
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Yeah, I don't like the look from stills, but well, they're stills, so I guess I'll wait and see.
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I like the animation style, I think I prefer it generally over live-action.
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While this looks better than the live action movies I think what adds to the creepiness beyond the typical dead eyes is the the skin is too realistic while the proportions and designs retain the comic's look. They really should have gone a different style.
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I never realized how much my ex resembles Tintin!
I quite like the animation style, I gotta say. Will be interesting to see what these two giants, Jackson and Spielberg, can do together. I'd love to see a set with them two on it, I imagine them both being quite adamant and used to getting their way. Im sure it'd be quite a sight.
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It looks almost as fucked up and disturbing as The Polar Express. Somebody call Zemeckis!
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I think I'll probably get used to this animation about 10-20 minutes into the movie.