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Title: QC and violence against men.
Post by: John911 on 05 Feb 2009, 21:39
Just a gripe from what I have read and the comments posted in the forum.

QC seems to make a few jokes about violence. Directed at men.

Domestic violence is never funny regardless of the victims sex.

Has this issue been raised before on the forums? I get the feeling that if it was the other way around heads would roll.

Peace out.

Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: kjohnnytarr on 05 Feb 2009, 22:14
Why can't a joke about domestic violence be funny? Not every discussion of a serious topic needs to be a serious discussion.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Cartilage Head on 05 Feb 2009, 22:44
I'm going to hit you both.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: kjohnnytarr on 05 Feb 2009, 22:46
this ain't funnaaaaay!
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: mustang6172 on 05 Feb 2009, 23:11
Why can't a joke about domestic violence be funny? Not every discussion of a serious topic needs to be a serious discussion.

I agree.

Check this out.  A man walks into a bar.  After he goes home, he beats his wife.

That's shock humor, baby!
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Cartilage Head on 05 Feb 2009, 23:14
I'm going to hit you the hardest. Just shut up.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Siibillam-Law on 05 Feb 2009, 23:23
Bang bang

My baby shot me down...
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: tuna ketchup x on 06 Feb 2009, 08:02
REVERSE RACISM
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: KeepACoolin on 06 Feb 2009, 15:31
If the comic supports violence against men, it also supports violence against insane vigilantes on vespas, violence against and by anthropomorphic robots, keeping dangerous weapons in a coffee shop, and using blackmail to get more money at your job (even if it was by accident- ugggghhhh, old people).
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: JD on 06 Feb 2009, 15:42
Show me the joke in question.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: KeepACoolin on 06 Feb 2009, 15:54
I can't remember which number (or even where in the overall plot it is).  Someone must know: the one at the library where Dora and Marten (ahem) "disturb" the board members?
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Dunnoe on 06 Feb 2009, 22:36
you know, I think whenever we take things too seriously, we miss out on some fun. 'problem is, there are limits, and that depends on the audience. I guess I will draw the line if Dora and Faye really fuck Marten up with metal pipes and chains. Black and blue and bleeding. that kinda stuff. Slapping, pinching, and even punching will be alright with me, as long as teh peepoll consent, or its in because of a joke. Marten isn't crazy aggressive, so there won't be war if Faye yanks on his crotch or something.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: JD on 06 Feb 2009, 23:02
This one? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1133)

Or the one right after? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1134)
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: lolwut on 07 Feb 2009, 04:20
Dora and Faye really fuck Marten up with metal pipes and chains. Black and blue and bleeding. that kinda stuff.

fuck i caaaaaaaaame
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: eddie on 07 Feb 2009, 07:08
I think he means the domestic violence one. I can't really remember one either.

Clearly it was subliminal and Jeph wants me to beat my woman.

No, its the other way round Jeph wants your woman to beat you!
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: lolwut on 07 Feb 2009, 07:23
I think he means the domestic violence one. I can't really remember one either.

Clearly it was subliminal and Jeph wants me to beat my woman.

No, its the other way round Jeph wants your woman to beat you!

No, Jeph wants me to beat off on both your women.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 07 Feb 2009, 07:30
Jeph wants me to break your nose and kick your face in a punch fight.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Dunnoe on 07 Feb 2009, 08:06
QC Fight Club?! Win!
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Surgoshan on 07 Feb 2009, 08:16
Win?  I dunno.  Have you ever seen a bunch of pale, skinny dudes waling on each other?  Not made of awesome.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 07 Feb 2009, 08:35
Have you ever seen a bunch of pale, skinny dudes waling on each other?

Yes. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHO8l-Bd1O4)
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Siibillam-Law on 07 Feb 2009, 08:50
The video was not avaliable in my country!

This haunt me forever now. I shall never know...
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Rocketman on 07 Feb 2009, 14:17
Win?  I dunno.  Have you ever seen a bunch of pale, skinny dudes waling on each other?  Not made of awesome.

I dunno about that. I could definitely see Marten as the Narrator.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 07 Feb 2009, 14:42
The video was not avaliable in my country!

This haunt me forever now. I shall never know...

It's an animated Bill Gates vs. Steve Jobs cartoon. Try Googling "Supernews".
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: JD on 07 Feb 2009, 15:54
Norton's video is also a flash game (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/448565)
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Superkid11 on 07 Feb 2009, 19:53
Hello, George Carlin. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FsfLPohZ_c)

I am posting this because one of the biggest problems in the world is people getting butthurt when people crack jokes, burn flags or do other entirely insignificant shit that doesn't lessen the value or importance of the issue or item being scandalized at all, but somehow ends up making people really really angry anyway. Do you really think any QC fans will suddenly think it's okay to beat their wives or husbands because they read a joke about it in a webcomic, or are you simply taking this as an opportunity to get all high-and-mighty and/or righteous? Because honestly, it seems like the latter.
Agreed. This kind of thing is just being taken way too seriously. Minor woman-on-man violence has always been joked about unless it's extreme. (slapping or quick punching isn't extreme. Shooting is.)
Frankly, I don't remember any jokes about explicitly about that at all in QC. The only times when it's been a joke has been accidental, like Faye crashing on Marty's lap then barfing on him.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Surgoshan on 07 Feb 2009, 20:28
I think, sir, that you've forgotten an unprovoked, highly vicious purple nurple incident (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=13).

What a bitch.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: KeepACoolin on 07 Feb 2009, 20:37
Domestic violence is never funny regardless of the victims sex.

Has this issue been raised before on the forums? I get the feeling that if it was the other way around heads would roll.
First of all, I can think of at least one instance of domestic violence that would be a little funny: if Mike Tyson had been beaten by his wife, I would find that funny.

Secondly, yes, heads would roll if it was the other way (assuming it was presented as a joke), but that's because men are naturally stronger than women (in almost all instances).  I for instance, am well over two hundred pounds and over six feet tall.  I would be VERY MAD at someone of comparable size with me beating someone as tiny as Dora.  It would be unacceptable.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Surgoshan on 07 Feb 2009, 21:20
I know a woman who was abused by her husband fo years.  One day he beat the shit out of her.  She got his attention by calling his name.  He turned around.  She threw an empty beer bottle at him.  It hit him in the forehead and he collapsed. She got out.

I don't know if there's anything funny in there, but I do know that, thirty years later, she's happy and so is her daughter. 
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Dazed on 07 Feb 2009, 22:03
Domestic violence should never be tolerated, it is absolutely no laughing matter.

Unless they're really asking for it, then I guess it's a judgment call.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: SrMeowMeow on 07 Feb 2009, 22:20
What comic is this rant even referring to?
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 07 Feb 2009, 22:24
Unless they're really asking for it, then I guess it's a judgment call.

So you subscribe to the Sean Connery school of thought, then.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Rocketman on 07 Feb 2009, 22:35
Unless they're really asking for it, then I guess it's a judgment call.

So you subscribe to the Sean Connery school of thought, then.

I would subscribe to Sean Connery's school just for his voice.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 07 Feb 2009, 22:47
Look up his infamous Barbra Walters interview.

He said, and I'm paraphrasing here, "Ah think it's OK to shmack a woman if it brings her in laine."

...God, it's hard to type a Sean Connery accent.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: lolwut on 08 Feb 2009, 04:20
Look up his infamous Barbra Walters interview.

He said, and I'm paraphrasing here, "Ah think it's OK to shmack a woman if it brings her in laine."

...God, it's hard to type a Sean Connery accent.

he's scottish, so smacking is spanking, right?

if so i am totally in agreement that more women need to have their asses spanked. preferably by other women.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Surgoshan on 08 Feb 2009, 05:23
Also something like "It's not the worst thing to hit a woman".
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: lolwut on 08 Feb 2009, 05:31
Also something like "It's not the worst thing to hit a woman".

i mean i would reserve that category for slavery and the holocaust but i guess domestic abuse is kind of bad?
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 08 Feb 2009, 07:44
he's scottish, so smacking is spanking, right?

if so i am totally in agreement that more women need to have their asses spanked. preferably by other women.


...Jesus, that puts his OTHER quote on the subject ("Some women are just asking for that smack") in a whole different light.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Dunnoe on 08 Feb 2009, 09:23
Surgoshan, Mr. Jacques probably isn't going in the direction you are thinking about. I don't think we'll ever see domestic abuse against anyone with the magnitude that you used as an example in QC.

Give us the comic number, and we'll post our respective opinions...
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: FriendlyFireIsnt on 08 Feb 2009, 15:16
To be fair, Dora whipped out a broadsword on a hapless young woman but a few short comics ago.

Seems it's just violence for violence's sake.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Siibillam-Law on 08 Feb 2009, 18:18
People should be able to bash each other over the head whenever they feel like it
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: KeepACoolin on 08 Feb 2009, 18:18
For fairness's sake, we ought to mention that Dora never utilized said broadsword, or the Malaysian Battle Spatula.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Jack Faros on 08 Feb 2009, 19:58
Hello, George Carlin. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FsfLPohZ_c)

I am posting this because one of the biggest problems in the world is people getting butthurt when people crack jokes, burn flags or do other entirely insignificant shit that doesn't lessen the value or importance of the issue or item being scandalized at all, but somehow ends up making people really really angry anyway. Do you really think any QC fans will suddenly think it's okay to beat their wives or husbands because they read a joke about it in a webcomic, or are you simply taking this as an opportunity to get all high-and-mighty and/or righteous? Because honestly, it seems like the latter.
This.  That is all.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Dunnoe on 08 Feb 2009, 20:14
whoa. i...er...never saw that.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: John911 on 08 Feb 2009, 22:55
Just a gripe from what I have read and the comments posted in the forum.

QC seems to make a few jokes about violence. Directed at men.

Domestic violence is never funny regardless of the victims sex.

Has this issue been raised before on the forums? I get the feeling that if it was the other way around heads would roll.

Peace out.



Geez, lighten up would ya.

They are just jokes.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Feb 2009, 15:34
What's gone on between Marten and Faye is a long way from the control and terror of actual domestic abuse. Ever hear a recording of a 911 call from a domestic violence situation? A sock on the arm isn't the same thing and it's not even the same kind of thing.

Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: NeverQuiteGoth on 11 Feb 2009, 00:14
If the comic supports violence against men, it also supports violence against insane vigilantes on vespas, violence against and by anthropomorphic robots, keeping dangerous weapons in a coffee shop, and using blackmail to get more money at your job (even if it was by accident- ugggghhhh, old people).

that was a bribe, not blackmail.

And hell why wouldn't ya keep dangerous weapons in your coffee shop?  :wink:
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: count on 11 Feb 2009, 00:18
looks like ya all got troll'd
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: KeepACoolin on 11 Feb 2009, 12:15
If the comic supports violence against men, it also supports violence against insane vigilantes on vespas, violence against and by anthropomorphic robots, keeping dangerous weapons in a coffee shop, and using blackmail to get more money at your job (even if it was by accident- ugggghhhh, old people).

that was a bribe, not blackmail.

And hell why wouldn't ya keep dangerous weapons in your coffee shop?  :wink:
A bribe is just the other side of blackmail.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: wargrafix on 11 Feb 2009, 18:05
I vote for deathmatch ring

with Deathmole playing over the speakers
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Surgoshan on 11 Feb 2009, 18:52
Marten buys Faye new glasses.
She gives him a purple nurple (aka titty twister).

Reverse the gender.

Chick buys Dude new glasses.
He twists her nipple unto pain.

Why is it no longer funny? 
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Feb 2009, 19:44
Was it funny when Marten smacked Faye on the ass?
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Masterbainter on 11 Feb 2009, 21:20
Marten buys Faye new glasses.
She gives him a purple nurple (aka titty twister).

Reverse the gender.

Chick buys Dude new glasses.
He twists her nipple unto pain.

Why is it no longer funny? 

Because the girls nipple squirted breast milk out, which is a waste of perfectly good cofee creamer.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: SrMeowMeow on 11 Feb 2009, 23:11
Marten buys Faye new glasses.
She gives him a purple nurple (aka titty twister).

Reverse the gender.

Chick buys Dude new glasses.
He twists her nipple unto pain.

Why is it no longer funny? 

Agreed, it's an interesting question, but seriously, what's the relevance? When has this ever come up in the comic?

What about when Marten hits that monk with the pan? If it was a baby instead of a monk, think how inappropriate that would be!
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Dunnoe on 11 Feb 2009, 23:57
i don't think mr. jacques is advocating domestic abuse. none of the parties want the other to stop inflicting pain, so we can assume that it isn't excruciatingly unbearable. or they're into S&M.

S&M?

Dora and Faye whip up Marten?
Marten whips up Dora and Faye?

erm...nevermind...
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Masterbainter on 12 Feb 2009, 01:07
You can't domestically abuse the willing...  erm.. hmm.. nevermind.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: pwhodges on 12 Feb 2009, 01:14
And those who are willing only because they know no different?
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: lolwut on 12 Feb 2009, 09:01
Marten buys Faye new glasses.
She gives him a purple nurple (aka titty twister).

Reverse the gender.

Chick buys Dude new glasses.
He twists her nipple unto pain.

Why is it no longer funny? 

it's not?
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Cartilage Head on 12 Feb 2009, 11:28
 I find it goddamn hilarious.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Twelvth on 12 Feb 2009, 12:04
Marten buys Faye new glasses.
She gives him a purple nurple (aka titty twister).

Reverse the gender.

Chick buys Dude new glasses.
He twists her nipple unto pain.

Why is it no longer funny? 

For one thing, people don't purple nurple girls.  Anyone who does so is generally seen as an ass anyways.

It's ALWAYS funny when GUYS get purple nurples.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Rocketman on 12 Feb 2009, 12:09
Because the girls nipple squirted breast milk out, which is a waste of perfectly good cofee creamer.

Since human females only produce milk when pregnant or having recently given birth...there's bigger problems.  :-P
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Fen on 12 Feb 2009, 12:54
I got purple nurples many times.
It was by other chicks tho.
One guy tried to give me a purple nurple once, tho.
He laid on the floor grabbing his balls for the following half hour.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Faryshta on 12 Feb 2009, 13:44
I got purple nurples many times.
It was by other chicks tho.
One guy tried to give me a purple nurple once, tho.
He laid on the floor grabbing his balls for the following half hour.

Agree. girl touch your nipple=sexy.

Men touching your nipple=hand breaking. (IF YOU ARE HETERO of course)

Men with mustache=normal.

Girl with mustache=WTF.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Fen on 12 Feb 2009, 21:10
I'm a girl. :P.
I'm fairly sure a guy wouldn't hit another guy in the crotch hard enough to leave him lying.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Siibillam-Law on 13 Feb 2009, 04:26
Depends who the guys are
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Rocketman on 13 Feb 2009, 05:24
I'm a girl. :P.

And we reiterate: "girl touch your nipple=sexy."
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: lolwut on 13 Feb 2009, 05:48
Because the girls nipple squirted breast milk out, which is a waste of perfectly good cofee creamer.

Since human females only produce milk when pregnant or having recently given birth...there's bigger problems.  :-P

man what

if you suck on the breasts enough over a period of time they will produce milk, don't need to be no pregnancy involved
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 13 Feb 2009, 05:50
Is it just me, or has this topic kind of turned a 180?
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Rocketman on 13 Feb 2009, 08:36
man what

if you suck on the breasts enough over a period of time they will produce milk, don't need to be no pregnancy involved

I did not know that.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: eddie on 13 Feb 2009, 09:10
Because the girls nipple squirted breast milk out, which is a waste of perfectly good cofee creamer.

Since human females only produce milk when pregnant or having recently given birth...there's bigger problems.  :-P

man what

if you suck on the breasts enough over a period of time they will produce milk, don't need to be no pregnancy involved

Thats wrong, there are some women that can do that but they're the exception.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: lolwut on 13 Feb 2009, 09:13
Because the girls nipple squirted breast milk out, which is a waste of perfectly good cofee creamer.

Since human females only produce milk when pregnant or having recently given birth...there's bigger problems.  :-P

man what

if you suck on the breasts enough over a period of time they will produce milk, don't need to be no pregnancy involved

Thats wrong, there are some women that can do that but they're the exception.

if there are men that can lactate (and there are men that can lactate) then i posit that women who require pregnancy to lactate are the exception
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: eddie on 13 Feb 2009, 09:23
Because the girls nipple squirted breast milk out, which is a waste of perfectly good cofee creamer.

Since human females only produce milk when pregnant or having recently given birth...there's bigger problems.  :-P

man what

if you suck on the breasts enough over a period of time they will produce milk, don't need to be no pregnancy involved

Thats wrong, there are some women that can do that but they're the exception.

if there are men that can lactate (and there are men that can lactate) then i posit that women who require pregnancy to lactate are the exception

Where the hell did you get that from? Men can't lactate, we don't even store any milk.  Your logic makes noe sense as lactating usually starts around 20 weeks in to pregnancy and it will last the rest of her if she keeps breast feeding
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: lolwut on 13 Feb 2009, 09:25
Where the hell did you get that from? Men can't lactate, we don't even store any milk.  Your logic makes noe sense as lactating usually starts around 20 weeks in to pregnancy and it will last the rest of her if she keeps breast feeding

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_lactation
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: lolwut on 13 Feb 2009, 09:30
Men touching your nipple=hand breaking. (IF YOU ARE HETERO of course)

i'd just like to point out that this is my favourite reason for frequenting gay bars
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: wargrafix on 14 Feb 2009, 14:41
lol, wait til sven unleashed the "pimp hand". can't wait for the fireworks.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Tybalt on 14 Feb 2009, 15:02
looks like ya all got troll'd
You have a little too much faith.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: lily-kiernan on 15 Feb 2009, 19:37
Hello, George Carlin. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FsfLPohZ_c)

I am posting this because one of the biggest problems in the world is people getting butthurt when people crack jokes, burn flags or do other entirely insignificant shit that doesn't lessen the value or importance of the issue or item being scandalized at all, but somehow ends up making people really really angry anyway. Do you really think any QC fans will suddenly think it's okay to beat their wives or husbands because they read a joke about it in a webcomic, or are you simply taking this as an opportunity to get all high-and-mighty and/or righteous? Because honestly, it seems like the latter.

It won't cause QC readers to go out and beat their significant others, but it does contribute to a cultural viewpoint that it's funny. For example, a man being raped. We make lots of "Don't drop the soap jokes" when talking about prison, but rape, including for/especially for men, is an utterly terrifying thing to endure. The view of male rape being funny, what started as "just making light" of it, has contributed to a rape-survivor support system that, for the most part, excludes men, both as counselors and as clients. It also contributes to the arguments of those asswipes who call raped men "pussies". It enshrouds boys and young men, especially, from reporting molestation and childhood sexual abuse. In this case, laughing about it contributes to the already-present viewpoint of men as exclusively batterers, and women as exclusively battered. (which particularly affects the already-downtrodden gays and lesbians; women can beat their wives, and men can beat their husbands... it's not gender exclusive.)

However, in this situation, I think the girls just pick on Marten. If he wants it to stop, he should put up some boundaries, and Dora and Faye, not being abusive, would not cross those boundaries. (Premonition: forty-seven Faye angst strips on hurting Marten.) That is where, I think, the line is drawn. When told to stop, a normal person stops after the first indication of displeasure. An abuser carries on.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: John911 on 15 Feb 2009, 23:26
Right on.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: TheReaper on 16 Feb 2009, 00:45
For fairness's sake, we ought to mention that Dora never utilized said broadsword, or the Malaysian Battle Spatula.
That we've seen.
There has been blood to clean up.

Anyway, I'm off to make Holocaust and dead baby jokes. Because there's nothing wrong with it.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Rocketman on 16 Feb 2009, 07:32
involuntary anal penetration

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1236 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1236)  :-D
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: SleeperCylon on 16 Feb 2009, 10:47
Slapstick humor doesn't count as domestic violence.  Unless anime girls who hit guys with large hammers they pull out of thin air are committing assault with a deadly weapon.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: lily-kiernan on 16 Feb 2009, 22:11
I do have a friend who was laughed out of a rape support group because he was male. Literally. It was bad.

But that is a good point you are bringing up, about the taboo of rape. We (not QC readers, mind you, but Americans) do make light of it, yes, but discussion of rape is still too taboo in PC culture for my happiness.

Note: I am far too lazy to quote right now. Sorry Jeans.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Guido Sarducci on 16 Feb 2009, 22:27
I think he means the domestic violence one. I can't really remember one either.

Clearly it was subliminal and Jeph wants me to beat my woman.

do it. go on. do it.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: John911 on 17 Feb 2009, 00:49
On this we agree. This is just overreacting, and probably even a troll, seeing as the original poster hasn't made a single comment after creating the thread.

Maybe someone needs to re-read the thread more carefully.

To be honest looking back on the original post it does come across quite "high and mighty".

But one of my family members was in the situation when he was in the process of getting a divorce. Very much a case of "I can hit you, but you can't hit me because I am a girl." She was a bitch. No doubt.

I had an argument with a female friend who also reads QC recently, and I made the point that violence from women against men is considered in society to be funny, and not taken seriously. I used QC as an example basically. This is what prompted my post.

My point is that society as general also has the view of "I can hit you, but you can't hit me because I am a girl." And if the guy speaks up about it, he is derided for being hit by a girl. We as a society do a great deal of work to promote awareness of domestic violence, but generally only violence directed against women.

Insult me away!
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Masterbainter on 17 Feb 2009, 04:34
I think that's what some men are upset about.  A girl is able to emit her frustration on a male with violence (Exp. Faye>Marten) and the male may only feel a bit of pain but have to "man up" and deal with it because why? 

I think that is where alot of guys get upset with the idea of it being okay for girls to hit guys. 
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Guido Sarducci on 17 Feb 2009, 08:57
I've had a couple of hitters, (my ex wife threw a beany baby at me once and gave me a black eye but she was so ashamed and remorseful it ended her getting physical) and it never bothered me. It wasn't an "I'm macho" thing, I just always figured letting them whack at me a bit would let them calm down, and it was never going to hurt me. Sort of like punching a pillow or whatever.

Then I realized what I was doing by letting them hit was training them that it's okay in general and especially against me. So I learned to block them until they wore out. I've never had a successful relationship with a woman who wanted to hit. They always end up getting angrier and angrier--either because I was letting them get away with things they shouldn't have done, or because they became so frustrated at my passivity to them and their inability to "punish me" that we finally imploded. I'm glad that hitters are relatively uncommon, since I have no idea how to handle it properly...It's sort of a bad feeling, you know?
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: SuperSUGA on 17 Feb 2009, 09:10
Then I realized what I was doing by letting them hit was training them that it's okay in general and especially against me.
This is the key point here. Of course I don't think QC has any problems unless people are looking to the characters as role models, which I imagine is unlikely.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: KeepACoolin on 17 Feb 2009, 09:44
I don't know about that.  I know that, thanks to Marten, I now dream of a career arc that includes Office Bitch and librarian as the high points.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: SuperSUGA on 17 Feb 2009, 14:35
I think we can all fantasise about QC-style careers! I mean these people are all in there 20s and not one of them ever really finds themselves in a job where they have to answer to someone that isn't a good friend. Hannelore might be the exception but I don't think we're meant to think about her job too much...
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: championofkhorne on 17 Feb 2009, 15:28
well since her job is counting things it doesnt really come up all that often.

also she is rich as hell.

Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Surgoshan on 17 Feb 2009, 18:29
Her parents are rich as hell.  Not quite the same thing.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: lolwut on 18 Feb 2009, 05:29
(my ex wife threw a beany baby at me once and gave me a black eye

how the hell do you get a black eye from a beanie baby
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: SuperSUGA on 18 Feb 2009, 06:49
Bean bags can pack a decent hit!
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Rocketman on 18 Feb 2009, 13:17
(my ex wife threw a beany baby at me once and gave me a black eye

how the hell do you get a black eye from a beanie baby

F=ma.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Guido Sarducci on 18 Feb 2009, 16:38
(my ex wife threw a beany baby at me once and gave me a black eye

how the hell do you get a black eye from a beanie baby

you get hit from about six feet away when the person throwing it is putting everything they have behind it. They're not all that damned light. And if you get hit hard enough with a freaking whiffle ball, it's gonna bruise you in soft tissue like you have around your eye. No. I'm not a sissy. *cries*
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: championofkhorne on 18 Feb 2009, 16:47
beanie babies: blatant consumerism at its worst
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Guido Sarducci on 18 Feb 2009, 17:10
She worked in a toy store when we met. It's not like we were collecting the damned things. I wonder what they're worth now?
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Lyrical on 18 Feb 2009, 17:26
A lot of states will press charges even against the victim's wishes, or over something minor.  My brother's former fiancee threw a glass of milk (not the cup, just the milk) in her ex-husband's face.  She got carted off to jail for the night, lost custody of her kids, and was on probation for an extended period of time.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: lily-kiernan on 18 Feb 2009, 20:43
That's a little... wow, okay.
Shit. I'm waiting for the cops to get me now (except I used the hose in the sink).
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 19 Feb 2009, 22:38
Big difference. That was just water, the other person used milk, the deadliest of the food groups (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=264).

Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: SuperSUGA on 20 Feb 2009, 03:04
Throwing liquids is a lame attack. I'd rather someone just hit me.

Hmm, I'd forgotten about the milk attack. I never really got why Marten's ex just fled the scene conveniently.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 20 Feb 2009, 04:39
She had milk on her. What, was she supposed to sit around until it got...ripe?
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: championofkhorne on 20 Feb 2009, 11:43
liquids are dangerous cuz they can burn you very easily.

boiling water being chucked at you is not fun lol
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Siibillam-Law on 20 Feb 2009, 13:44
It's fun if you're the one chucking it


...
No?
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: championofkhorne on 21 Feb 2009, 11:15
not really, shit is heavy is there is any real amount.

also it gets everywhere including on you.

bad times
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: lily-kiernan on 25 Feb 2009, 17:26
Big difference. That was just water, the other person used milk, the deadliest of the food groups (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=264).



Touche.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Guido Sarducci on 25 Feb 2009, 21:30
Big difference. That was just water, the other person used milk, the deadliest of the food groups (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=264).



Touche.

when I first read this I thought it said douche and cringed. Somehow I got the impression somebody was having one squirted in their eyes... :oops:

*hides head in shame*
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: SuperSUGA on 25 Feb 2009, 23:48
She had milk on her. What, was she supposed to sit around until it got...ripe?
Maybe it's just me but I'd probably ask what exactly the thrower is doing, to put it politely. After that I'd probably want to clean up in the bathroom a bit before heading into the street covered in milk.

Of course, if comedy followed real life all the time it would be awful, this was just a tiny thing that felt odd to me  :-)
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 27 Feb 2009, 03:06
Fair question. We could decide that she has urban safety reflexes, like "get away from crazies ASAP".

It's more elegant to believe that she suddenly caught sight of Marten, and put two and two together.

Hey, it's the best I could come up with.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Siibillam-Law on 27 Feb 2009, 07:48
talking about violence against men...

Dora: *SMACK*
Sven: *on the floor*
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: SuperSUGA on 27 Feb 2009, 09:28
talking about violence against men...

Dora: *SMACK*
Sven: *on the floor*
Interestingly this could be the first bit of violence carried out in the comic that wasn't as part of a joke.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: lolwut on 27 Feb 2009, 09:33
Interestingly this could be the first bit of violence carried out in the comic that wasn't as part of a joke.

so there was this suicide a few hundred comics back
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: pwhodges on 27 Feb 2009, 09:34
Depends what you call a joke (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=697)?
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: SuperSUGA on 27 Feb 2009, 11:06
Interestingly this could be the first bit of violence carried out in the comic that wasn't as part of a joke.

so there was this suicide a few hundred comics back
I was talking more about violence between two or more characters. Guess I should have been clearer  :wink:
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Siibillam-Law on 27 Feb 2009, 11:33
Depends what you call a joke (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=697)?

Depends what happened after. If he stood up, sent the security tape to AFV and got a few grand for it, it's good.
Or, if the hit had set off a series of other events; Marten hit him where his skull was most fragile, thus causing it to fracutre, causing brain damage. He spent the rest of his life in a wheelchair, unable to talk, except via morse code.
Now that's comedy
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: championofkhorne on 01 Mar 2009, 10:23
wheelchair computer talking not guearanteed to make you as cool as stephen hawking*
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: ecstaticjoy on 01 Mar 2009, 17:14
Quote
QC Discussion
Will turn Jeph into a mass-murderer someday. You'll see. You'll all see.

I hope not.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Cap'n Treacherous on 01 Mar 2009, 20:32
This comic has had women exercising violence against men since issue 13 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=13).

I wonder what would have happened if Marten had given Faye a purple nurple.

Yeah, that's right; he'd be in jail.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: benji on 02 Mar 2009, 11:47
Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: championofkhorne on 02 Mar 2009, 18:32
sex in jail is bad. mmmkay
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Dazed on 02 Mar 2009, 19:34
Jens that is what I see in every QC strip you nailed it bro.
Title: Dudes: Violence against men is funny.
Post by: giant_bug on 03 Mar 2009, 20:07
Also: 
Getting an anvil dropped on your head is funny.
A mouse hitting a cat on the head with a mallet is funny.
A duck getting his face shot off by a rabbit with a shotgun is funny.
A rabbit in drag getting raped by a Tasmanian devil is funny.
A cat getting raped by a horny French skunk is funny.

People who don't think these things are funny shouldn't read cartoons.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: AngelofShadows on 04 Mar 2009, 06:26
I scanned this entire thread just to make this point, as it has yet to be made.....

The only real act of violence that QC commits against men is not letting all themz (the z is meant to be there, as it is important) sexy ladies gettin it on with each other.

Amiright?!

Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: championofkhorne on 04 Mar 2009, 07:13
amen brother
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: giant_bug on 04 Mar 2009, 16:00

I wonder what would have happened if Marten had given Faye a purple nurple.

Yeah, that's right; he'd be in jail.

Knowing Faye, he'd probably be in traction!
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: jeph on 04 Mar 2009, 16:11
LESS POSTING

MORE HITTING

 :police: 8-) :police:

Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Guido Sarducci on 04 Mar 2009, 19:48
LESS POSTING

MORE HITTING

 :police: 8-) :police:



*hits Jeph*
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: championofkhorne on 05 Mar 2009, 15:12
the only hitting I do is euphemistic hitting
Title: Re: Dudes: Violence against men is funny.
Post by: lolwut on 06 Mar 2009, 04:45
Also: 
Getting an anvil dropped on your head is funny.
A mouse hitting a cat on the head with a mallet is funny.
A duck getting his face shot off by a rabbit with a shotgun is funny.
A rabbit in drag getting raped by a Tasmanian devil is funny.
A cat getting raped by a horny French skunk is funny.

People who don't think these things are funny shouldn't read cartoons.


those things are funny as long as they're sufficiently unreal that we don't sympathise with the peril of the character

if any of those went into enough detail that the reality of the situation became, well, real, to us, then it would no longer be funny

Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Jace on 06 Mar 2009, 05:06
You guys.
This is 3 pages long.
It is a fucking comic.

You are taking things way too seriously.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: championofkhorne on 06 Mar 2009, 17:19
who is taking what seriously.

I'm just here for the free cake
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Surgoshan on 06 Mar 2009, 17:59
The cake is a lie.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: championofkhorne on 06 Mar 2009, 19:07
and your jokes are old
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Surgoshan on 06 Mar 2009, 19:19
What you say!
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: KeepACoolin on 07 Mar 2009, 18:56
So, do you guys liek forming babby?
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: championofkhorne on 07 Mar 2009, 23:48
so i was low-riding through the archives today and I noticed it has been a long time since faye changed her glasses.

time for some new frames, bitches
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Surgoshan on 08 Mar 2009, 09:54
Tim the sorceror?  He would be an awkward pair of spectacles.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: championofkhorne on 08 Mar 2009, 11:48
for everyone who thinks marten is overly passive

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=697
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Siibillam-Law on 08 Mar 2009, 13:49
You guys.
This is 3 pages long.
It is a fucking comic.

You are taking things way too seriously.

You are taking taking things too seriously WAY too seriously.

zing!
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: namatad on 09 Mar 2009, 10:46
QC seems to make a few jokes about violence. Directed at men.
Domestic violence is never funny regardless of the victims sex.

you clearly have no idea what you are talking about
when faye hit martin
it has NOTHING to do with being funny
it is a creative way of showing us HOW fucked up faye is
that faye has problems and she is acting out and needs help

this issue made/makes for an interesting story line

the reason martin "takes it", is because she is a FRIEND of his and he undetstands that she is working through some INSANE rough spots
she is NOT violent towards him
she is NOT abusing him
she is acting out, screaming for help
and he is helping her

but in the tiny-brained world of PC morans, any hitting is bad

got TERRIBLE news for you
ALL humor is based on someone/something getting hurt/made fun off, what not

watch the daily show
he makes FUN of everyone

PS: do you read the strip? at no point is the violence part of a "joke", it is never something we laugh at or accept, we cringe at what must be behind it, wodnering where the story goes ....
PPS: PC - it is what's wrong with the world
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: The Joker on 09 Mar 2009, 11:09
What you say!

Win. 
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 09 Mar 2009, 12:54
but in the tiny-brained world of PC morans

Yep.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: championofkhorne on 09 Mar 2009, 16:38
when girls get violent it usually means they are showing you they dont mind getting physical.


which means they will be in the sack that night with whoever they are punching.


giggity
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: nimnix on 09 Mar 2009, 16:44
If that were true, Marten would have been a LOT happier...
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: championofkhorne on 09 Mar 2009, 16:57
marten never really shows much emotion anyway. if he is happy he is like "yeah i feel pretty good" and if he is sad he is like "meh i guess ill just whine a bit"

only time he has ever really been angry was at the monk when he beat him over the head with a souffle pan.

at least that is the only time i can recall
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Mr. Skawronska on 09 Mar 2009, 17:45
but in the tiny-brained world of PC morans

Yep.

Damn.  Beat me to it.

S
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: dps on 09 Mar 2009, 22:40
Personally, I don't think that anything is or should be off-limits when it comes to jokes.

Having said that, contrary to a lot that has been posted in this thread, Faye has often used or threatened to use violence against male characters (though not so much recently), and it has often been treated as a joke.  And yeah, it is a double standard, because if Marten treated women the way Faye has treated men, people wouldn't find it as funny.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Mar 2009, 23:06
I've seen some jokes that served no purpose except to comfort racists and let them bond with each other. I would condemn a web comic that used them.

So, why is it that it feels different to see Faye give Marten a near-concussion (378, 379) than it would feel to see Marten do the same to Faye? Is it for the same reason that all cat-and-mouse cartoon violence has the mouse winning?
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Czechfury on 10 Mar 2009, 00:07
The reason Faye's violence towards Marten can be considered amusing and acceptable, and would probably not be vice versa, is due to the fact that in our society men are taught to be aggressive and physical and women are taught to be passive. The juxtaposition of a passive (i.e. feminine) man being pushed around by an aggressive (i.e. masculine) woman creates an element of humor. I would argue that the use of violence in QC for a laugh is more about gender than anything else.  I don't think comparisons to slapstick are very apt because the foundation for humor in most of QC's violence is in Marten's femininity, Faye's masculinity, or both.  In fact, Marten's femininity is a recurring theme that is frequently exploited for a laugh.  Part of the reason it's so funny when Marten beats up the monk is that it's Marten doing the beating.


Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Lyrical on 11 Mar 2009, 22:42
With the exception of Faye decking Marten for slapping her butt, and accidentally passing out in his lap, she's only been violent toward him in a joking way, that I assume isn't actually hurting him at all.  It's more common between two guys who are friends than for women to do that, but I wouldn't consider it to be a big deal.  For that matter, there are plenty of people who hurt their partner in a way they like/is completely consensual. 

The overall level of violence in QC is a LOT lower than Wile E. Coyote and Roadrunner, GI Joe, or most other kids' cartoons!

Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: dps on 12 Mar 2009, 20:46
With the exception of Faye decking Marten for slapping her butt, and accidentally passing out in his lap, she's only been violent toward him in a joking way

That is incorrect.  See #108.  I'm sure I can find other examples.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: SuperSUGA on 13 Mar 2009, 01:47
Band stuff is a plot I can get behind! Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Thiefree on 18 Mar 2009, 06:11
I think the important thing is how her violence is being portrayed. As far as I can see, it divides into comedy violence (which is nothing you haven't seen in kids' cartoons for decades), and Faye-being-a-bitch violence. Everyone knows Faye's got issues; her constant punching of people is something that her friends have been training her out of as she gets more emotionally healthy.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Siibillam-Law on 18 Mar 2009, 13:10
I don't get it though. Faye hasn't just hit Marten, or Sven. She has often tried to hurt Penny is amusing ways as well.
 She's violent sociopath, and does not mind what gender the person is, so long as she gets to beat the shit out of them.

Woop
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: jeph on 18 Mar 2009, 13:33
how many women do I have to punch before this thread will end
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: championofkhorne on 18 Mar 2009, 14:24
at least 4
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: Surgoshan on 18 Mar 2009, 18:48
Five, if you want to be on the safe side.

Although, if you go for tit-punches, three would suffice.
Title: Re: QC and violence against men.
Post by: championofkhorne on 19 Mar 2009, 13:29
you could just rip their shirts of and that would be cool, too