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Fun Stuff => ENJOY => Topic started by: 0bsessions on 18 Feb 2009, 10:40
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Well, we had a post on this a long while back, but it hasn't been posted in since early August, sooo...in an effort to avoid anybody responding directly to points made six months ago, here's a fresh one:
This past week at NYCC, Fox released three new short trailers to go along with the previous theatricals, all three can be found here (http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/02/18/want-some-wolverine-y-goodness/).
The trailers feature some potentially heavy spoilers regarding Wolverine's childhood and a couple of surprise character cameos, so be forewarned. As a longtime fan of the X-Men comics, I'm having a lot of trouble not being excited for this after all of the trailers, which are VERY comic accurate for those curious.
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Oh. Oh my. Oh my yes.
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i was really excited about this until i watched a trailer for it a while back. then i got kind of bummed.
then again, maybe these are different trailers and they will renew my faith. will watch later, when i'm not busy at work.
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Oh man, finally a Gambit sighting. That + Ryan Reynolds + Liev Schreiber = I am definitely looking forward to this.
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What is it about the first trailers that bummed you, SWM? I've liked every trailer.
Dazed, you know Gambit's been showing up in trailers since like November, right?
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honestly, i can't even remember.
i just remember watching it and being like "uh that doesn't look that sweet"
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Aye Jon, I meant in terms of him actually showing up in one of the movies.
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Why Gambit sucks (http://daveslongbox.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-gambit-sucks.html).
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I am still not excited for this. I like Deadpool, Wolverine and Gambit but I just can not get started.
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I am excited for this movie. But then again, I was interested from when I first heard about it and the previews look pretty good.
Why Gambit sucks (http://daveslongbox.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-gambit-sucks.html).
Bahahaha!
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I am fairly excited about this movie! After Xmen 3, I kind of lost hope in the franchise. But after seeing a few of the trailers, I have a glimmer of hope again.
Yes! Gambit! I have been waiting for him to be in a movie since the first xmen.
He is the awesome.
The only thing about the trailers that gives me a little sense of hesitation about this movie is the part at the end of one where Wolverine basically flips a car and jumps onto a helicopter. Yeah....
Does that part bug anyone else?
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yes! that was one of the major things that bothered me about it, i think.
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Here's something that is bothering me, what is this movie to the other 3?
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Prequel, with the bulk of the plot occurring approximately twenty years prior to the first X-Men movie.
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I plan on seeing it. I'm not as excited for it as I was for The Dark Knight or Watchmen, but I'll see it nonetheless.
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Oh lord, what have they done?
(http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6669/whathavetheydone.jpg)
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Hired stylists exclusively from the nearby insane asylum?
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Deadpool?! :cry:
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Ages 4+?
Seriously *Facepalm*
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I'm assuming there'll be lots of sexy shirtless Ryan Reynolds in the movie then.
I know some people that will enjoy that.
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I've been on tenter-hooks ever since I heard they were making this film, even more so since I heard Ryan Reynolds was playing Deadpool. I honestly can't wait for this film and you better believe I am going to grow my hair out and style it like Wolverine for when I go see the film.
It is times like these I wish I had 12" adamantium claws. Ah well.
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I've been on tenter-hooks ever since I heard they were making this film, even more so since I heard Ryan Reynolds was playing Deadpool. I honestly can't wait for this film and you better believe I am going to grow my hair out and style it like Wolverine for when I go see the film.
It is times like these I wish I had 12" adamantium claws. Ah well.
I should consider giving myself some chops and deploying my twelve inch adamantium blade for the opening.
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WHAT
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FUCK
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Can't say I'm a fan of what they're doing with Deadpool, but I'll give it a shot nonetheless. For what it is, it didn't look too shabby.
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Just have to ask, you think the last guy with the red eye spew actually Scott? Or a different guy? Almost looked like the Night Crawler looking dude from a few clips back.
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It was revealed at a con months ago that Cyclops will have a cameo as a prisoner of Weapon X, it's definitely Summers. I'm also of the mind that this might be a springboard to potentially involve Sinister in a vague cameo.
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(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3663/thehell.jpg)
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Also in the trailer that's from, Deadpool shooting eye beams.
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My avatar perfectly conveys how I feel about that
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found it
UPDATE: The wiki for the movie is saying this is someone else entirely, someone called Weapon XI, and that the toy was mislabeled.
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oh god i hope that is true
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(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3663/thehell.jpg)
Wolverine shits while "Deadpool" interprets through dance.
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UPDATE: The wiki for the movie is saying this is someone else entirely, someone called Weapon XI, and that the toy was mislabeled.
I don't doubt it at all. For anyone who's read the comics, that idea actually makes a fuck ton of sense.
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Kind of looks like a less retarded Agent X. You know, before he got FAT.
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(http://www.toplessrobot.com/assets_c/2009/03/236730281_o-thumb-570x474.jpg)
When the "Deadpool" name sticker is removed it reveals the following information:
The Weapon 11 program has created the ultimate mutant-DEADPOOL! As the mutant menace rampages across Three Mile Island, Logan and Victor Creed are forced to team up--or be destroyed.
also, IMDB on Weapon XI
(http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0075039/bio)
I AM SO SORRY
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It doesn't add up to me. While I'm no stranger to movies changing characters for creative license, it just doesn't seem true to me. Why use a completely separate actor for the character's eventual destination? There's been a lot of rumors that Fox and Ryan Reynolds wouldn't mind using this movie as a Deadpool solo movie and altering the character and using a different actor after the change seems counter productive for that. The only way I can see it working that way is if he's altered and then reverted in the course of the movie.
Honestly, I find myself putting more stock in the likelihood of a printing error on the part of Hasbro. This alleged Deadpool seems like nothing the comics have ever done, is not played by Ryan Reynolds and really doesn't add up in any way.
My hopes are still high for this movie, at least.
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"insight" into the movie; the wounds are reopened (http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/03/the_deadpool_debacle_ended_probably.php)
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I'm still not entirely sure if I can bring myself to believe that. I could still use some more confirmation. If it is true there is definitely no chance I will pay to see this movie.
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I absolutely cannot stand trailers like this. I watched the latest Origins trailer when I saw Watchmen and I had to turn and talk to my friend halfway through to distract me cause they give away almost the whole movie. Why why why do people insist on trailers heavy with spoilers?!!
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Maybe "Deadpool" gets defeated, horribly scarred and loses all of his acquired powers, but remembers his Wade Wilson side, and then becomes the wonderful Deadpool we know we love just in time for his own movie OH COME ON WHAT THE HELL, WHY NOT JUST MAKE A BRAND NEW CHARACTER, YOU ASSHOLES?
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Wait, Tom, are Victor Creed's fingernails that retardedly big intentionally? o_O
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Have you ever read xmen, collected cards, played with the toys, watched the cartoons or the movies.
Sabertooth has hella nails, yes, hella.
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Ohkay, my bad.
The generic trenchcoat punched me in the face and made me temporarily forget that Sabretooth doesn't always look ridiculously hairy or has to have a completely different look in films like they usually do.
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There's another guy with steel claws coming out of his knuckles?
:-o
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You mean the girl in the right hand blue box? That's X-23, Wolverine's clone and she is by no means in this movie.
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It looked like the Deadpool character had the three or four blades too, guess not.
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no by the looks of it 'deadpool' only has a single blade coming out of the back of his wrist.
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I stand corrected. Having watched the leaked pre-screener, I can say that this movie was the absolute definition of mediocrity. I was able to make enough excuses to rationalize X3 as being halfway decent, but I can't even do that for this. It's just...not a good movie in any way, shape or form. The movie falls into pretty much every single bad action movie cliche. Save yourself ten bucks and just download a Steven Segal movie, it's pretty much the same thing.
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But...he's the best at what he does. And Steven Seagal movies don't have adamantium.
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Jon, can you repeat that and mean it?
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Apparently there is a leaked, "high quality" working print out there. No idea where one could find it..really mr fbiman I don't.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7977265.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7977265.stm)
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Yeah, I kind of mentioned that already, like all of four posts ago.
Anyways, Darryl, having slept on it, I still think the movie was pretty bleh, and the more time goes on, the lower my opinion of it gets.
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Yeah but I provided content! context! cursory allusions be damned!
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It's not exactly high-quality. They have pretty much zero effects put in and half the music missing.
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Yeah, that was pretty glaringly obvious at certain points and honestly makes it so that it might be really funny drunk. That said, the problem with the movie isn't the special effects, as some of it looks good now even without completion. The problem's the generic plot, substandard acting from the majority of the cast and the overall lack of any characterization.
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I know, I'm just saying using 'high quality' as a choice of words is fatally inaccurate.
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That's a relative conclusion. By standards of something leaked around release, much less before release, it's very high quality. The lack of CG and music isn't even readily apparent, for the most part, until close to halfway through.
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So, uh, Gambit isn't cajun and Sabertooth is Wolverine's brother.
Lol, wut.
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I hear there are 4 different secret endings
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Obsession's review isn't really catching me off guard here. I mean, I don't know what else you could do with a Wolverine movie but make it into a pretty cliched action fest. Wolverine, when it comes right down to it, is either an all-star second banana and dopey fun or else he's a conflicted man who realizes that he has the potential to be a murderous sociopath of the highest order. Which one comes out is basically dependent on the writer and whether he needs to be massaged into a group dynamic or not. I don't see how you could build an entire movie around the second banana version and I'm unconvinced many people really want to watch a movie about the sociopath, or that the studios would know how to handle such a movie even if they did.
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Silence Of The Lambs
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American Psycho
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I went and saw this the other day and man I was really disappointed. I mean I don't even have a high standard for these kind of things, I enjoyed the Fantastic Four films, and Daredevil for fuck's sake. I kept waiting for it to be good and it was constantly just short of being any good. The acting wasn't even bad!! The story was just awful and for some reason (and this is what I cannot get my head around) the CGI was dogshit. I don't know what the hell happened because in the other X-Men films the CGI was more than acceptable so what the hell went wrong here? It's not as if the budgets for the films were that different either!
Fuck me that movie was just a big disappointment. I'll probably see it again to find out if it has any kitsch value but I kind of doubt it.
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No Country For Old Men
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Yes, because after the first three X-Men movies people are totally expecting the Wolverine movie to be along the lines of Silence of the Lambs or No Country For Old Men. It's a comic book movie and Wolverine solo shots have all been about as bright and cheery as Punisher runs. And we all know how well the Punisher movie went over.
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Which one? There have been three.
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He's talking about the good one!
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Take your pick. None of 'em went over all that well. The 2004 one made a profit, at least, which is more than the most recent one can say, last I heard.
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It should have been a musical.
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I would pay to see that.
It's funny, Roger Ebert's only complaint about the recent one was that it was too gross. You would think that a "mature" comic book movie would have much more to complain about than that, wouldn't you?
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Did you actually read Roger Ebert's review (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090429/REVIEWS/904299978)? The word gross doesn't figure in there at all, and he seemed to find a lot of things the matter with the movie.
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I was pissed that they killed off Deadpool like a bitch. However, I heard there was a secret ending in some theatres where he grabs his head and breaks the fourth wall by shushing the audience. Awesome. I wish I got that one.
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Did you actually read Roger Ebert's review (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090429/REVIEWS/904299978)? The word gross doesn't figure in there at all, and he seemed to find a lot of things the matter with the movie.
I believe he's actually referring to Ebert's review of the latest Punisher movie, in which he says it's well-acted, well-made, and disgusting. Really, I don't think Ebert had a problem with the disgusting part so much as he has a problem with the fact that there is absolutely nothing in the film whatsoever for anyone who didn't go just to see icky things. It's the sort of movie you have to rather heavily qualify before recommending, hence the two stars as opposed to three. It reminds me of the AV club's review of Babylon A.D. (http://www.avclub.com/articles/babylon-ad,2793/), another classic case in which some people did a very good job on costume and set design in the service of a rather dire film.
For the record, I think I liked the 2004 Punisher about as much as I could possibly like a Punisher movie, which is really just another way of saying not very much. The Punisher is a sad, dingy anti-hero and it's very hard to really tell stories about him that most people will wish they have heard.
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Even Moon Knight's more interesting than the Punisher.
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Saw it this evening (Wolverine, not Punisher); I quite enjoyed it. I agree, though, that some of the special effects were painfully obvious.
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I believe he's actually referring to Ebert's review of the latest Punisher movie, in which he says it's well-acted, well-made, and disgusting. Really, I don't think Ebert had a problem with the disgusting part so much as he has a problem with the fact that there is absolutely nothing in the film whatsoever for anyone who didn't go just to see icky things. It's the sort of movie you have to rather heavily qualify before recommending, hence the two stars as opposed to three. It reminds me of the AV club's review of Babylon A.D. (http://www.avclub.com/articles/babylon-ad,2793/), another classic case in which some people did a very good job on costume and set design in the service of a rather dire film.
Yep, I was talking about his review of War Zone. I just wanted to see an action flick, I wasn't really going in hope of seeing someone's head graphically blown apart with a shotgun, or skull caved in by a chair leg. Nice to see body armor actually reliably work in a film, though. Babylon AD seemed like it was trying to cram another movie's worth of stuff in the last 20 or 30 minutes, so they dropped almost all of it. Has anyone read the book (Babylon Babies) or an earlier script?
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Man, at least in the X-Men movies, Jackman looked like he actually had claws on his hands sometimes. The ones in this movie looked fake the entire time. Also, there were oddly placed slow motion scenes that were rather bad. Also Deadpool's head being cut off should have stopped the laser eye thing.
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Sometimes I have serious trouble suspending disbelief.
At one point, Wolverine and the black teleporter are driving down the road on choppers and the black guy is wearing a cowboy hat. Why didn't his hat blow off? Totally ruined the movie for me. I mean, what, did he have a second mutant power that kept his hat on? BULLSHIT! NERD RAGE!!!!!!
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I was pissed that they killed off Deadpool like a bitch. However, I heard there was a secret ending in some theatres where he grabs his head and breaks the fourth wall by shushing the audience. Awesome. I wish I got that one.
It was awesome. But god damn, everything I didn't want to happen to Wade Wilson happened. I walked into this knowing it would not be good and I was right. I got what I expected.
Wait, your suspended disbelief is troubled by a cowboy hat not blowing in the wind. That's all?
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I'm sorry, I should have included this tag.
[/tongue in cheek]
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that's the kind of thing that always bothers me in movies too.
it's like, i can accept teleportation and super powers and aliens and "curve the bullet" and all kinds of other nonsense, but as soon as something stupid like that happens i start shouting "shenanigans!"
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The cowboy must have Jamie Hynemen powers.
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I was pissed that they killed off Deadpool like a bitch. However, I heard there was a secret ending in some theatres where he grabs his head and breaks the fourth wall by shushing the audience. Awesome. I wish I got that one.
It was awesome. But god damn, everything I didn't want to happen to Wade Wilson happened. I walked into this knowing it would not be good and I was right. I got what I expected.
That wasn't Wade. That was a clone of Wade. Real Wade was in one of those ice things.
(but seriously what the hell was with the ice things)
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Well, at least we will have our bloody (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/48752.html) video game.
Dude's head + helicopter blades = better than the movie
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Deadpool movie (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/05/05/exclusive-deadpool-solo-movie-confirmed-ryan-reynolds-attached-to-wolverine-spin-off/)
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Man, they are just scrambling to make money aren't they?
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I saw that earlier and I'm not sure how to feel. On the one hand, I love Deadpool. On the other hand, Fox have wasted what faith I had in them to do a good comic book movie without Bryan Singer involved.
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That wasn't Wade. That was a clone of Wade. Real Wade was in one of those ice things.
(but seriously what the hell was with the ice things)
Having seen it again, I didn't see Wade in any of the freezers. My friend, that was Wade on the table.
Also, the kid being held in place in his cell makes me think he's Pietro.
EDIT: I guess a sequel to this movie has already been announced
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Also a second spinoff in the form of X-Men Origins: First Class
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Yeah, but that was announced at least six months ago.