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Fun Stuff => ENJOY => Topic started by: scarred on 16 Jun 2009, 15:30
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http://backseatcuddler.com/2009/06/16/lebeouf-confirms-indiana-jones-5/
It's happening.
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Whaaaaaaaaat
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“If I can come up with another idea that they like, we’ll do another. Really, with the last one, Steven wasn’t that enthusiastic. I was trying to persuade him. But now Steve is more amenable to doing another one. Yet we still have the issues about the direction we’d like to take. I’m in the future; Steven’s in the past. He’s trying to drag it back to the way they were, I’m trying to push it to a whole different place. So, still we have a sort of tension. This recent one came out of that. It’s kind of a hybrid of our own two ideas, so we’ll see where we are able to take the next one.”
George Lucas speaks.
"Steven wants to make them like they were. I want to try something new."
Well George, it was the 'new' parts which royally fucked Indy in the ass on that last movie and we'll never forgive you for what you did. Indy deserved better than that, you sick fuck. I HOPE THEY PUT YOU AWAY FOR WHAT YOU DID! THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE INSIDE THAT GOT IT IN FOR YOU, LUCAS! YOU WON'T GET AWAY WITH IT!
YOU WON'T!
You...won't...ABLOOOBLOOOOOBLOOOO
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Indiana Jones and The Lost Retirement Home?
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:cry:
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[South Park]
Exactly.
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this is why we can't have nice things
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If George Lucas and Uwe Boll teamed up, they might just achieve their dream of DESTROYING MOVIES FOREVER...
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Really they just need to keep Lucas away from it. The further the better. And less stuff this time.
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this is why we can't have nice things
You've been commiserating with Zathras again, haven't you?
But seriously, are we gonna see Indiana Jones go the way of thr Freddie Kruger films, or the Jason films??
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I read somewhere, and it may have just been hearsay, that the 5th will be the last with Harrison Ford and the series will then continue indefinitely with Even Stevens as the star.
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The first one was a great film
The second blew serious chunks
The third one was awesome
The fourth was "meh"
If the pattern continues, it will be back to awesome.
I have my doubts that the pattern will continue, Harrison Ford is getting too old for these movies, and while I think a movie based on his wartime adventures (hinted at in the 4th movie) might be interesting, my fear is that it will be something more akin to "The Dirty Dozen - The Next Mission" and need to be consigned to the cinematic "seemed like a good idea at the time" pile.
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That's it. I'm working on a way to fission my conciousness into an alternate reality where this doesn't happen, RIGHT NOW.
Wait, I already have it. It's called discontinuity.
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Harrison Ford is getting too old for these movies
I think he only looked old when Shia Lebeouf was saving his ass and he was acting like a clumsy old man. That opening scene he moved like somebody half his age. The problem wasn't Harrison Ford being too old, but Indiana Jones being written as a bumbling old man.
One of the things that made Kingdom of the Crystal Skull so depressingly awful is that is really could have been great if Lucas and Spielberg had wanted to keep it in the same vein as the original trilogy. Harrison Ford's age, the awful CGI, shitty writing all dominated the movie because that is what they were aiming for. They actually sat down and said "we could make a sequel like the others, people would love it." "Nah, let's do it this way instead."
You know you fucked up when your movie makes the original trilogy look subtle.
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Mr. Ford is 67 years old. It's difficult to maintain the level of activity necessary for a believable action hero at that AGE
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he's still young enough to have the snot beaten out of him, and those were always the best parts of Indiana Jones.
even though the last movie sucked, it did show that he is still capable of moving around like a young guy.
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Yes, but at what cost? Age and good ol' fashioned wear & tear doesn't always limit you immediately, it often just makes you pay in a million small (and sometimes large...) ways after you're finished. Hell, the last time I saw Terrell Davis run for yards in the NFL he actually made a great gain and punished a defender as he went down; he also ended up going to the sidelines and leaving the game because his knee swelled to the size of cantaloupe despite the play being rather mundane. Of course, Ford did say that he'd make another one provided they didn't wait another 20 years to get cracking at it, and who am I to argue?
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Indiana Jones and The Lost Retirement Home?
Indiana Jones and Those Damn Kids Playing in the Yard Again
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Honestly? The CG was pretty bad in Crystal Skull, but I actually enjoyed the movie in spite of it.
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I'm being optimistic. Harrison Ford is still as he used to be. If anything, he's gotten better. I hope they have a decent story set up though. Inter-dimensional beings? Really?
Also, this needs Sallah
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Also, this needs Sallah
That would make it worthwhile. Also, less screentime for Shia would be cool, none would be even better.
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Also, this needs Sallah
Now why would he need to go to Pern and talk to Telgar?
*Whistles innocently*
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Sallah! I said 'No aliens!' That's five aliens! Can't you count?
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I stand by my belief that there was absolutely nothing wrong with using aliens. I find aliens significantly more believable that a box that melts people because god said so.
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Honestly, I enjoyed Indy 4 and had no problem with Shia the beef.
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I stand by my belief that there was absolutely nothing wrong with using aliens. I find aliens significantly more believable that a box that melts people because god said so.
It does not matter if it's believable, it only matters whether ot works or not. It did not work.
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They were interdimensional beings!
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And they were hardly even in the movie.
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You see though, that's kind of the problem. When the Ark of the Covenant melted people it wasn't terribly surprising because the fact that it melted people was the whole damned reason the Nazis wanted it. People will believe fantastic things as long as it seems plausible within the context of the movie's conventions. The idea that the Ark wasn't something to be tampered with was established early in Raiders. But in IJ4 Introducing aliens to the mix surprised people and held no real pay off since it didn't recontextualize or reinforce things that happened previously in the series. Personally, it didn't really bother me that much but I could see how it would really bug some people, particularly since many people are a lot more willing to accept supernatural phenomena of the spiritual variety than of the sci-fi variety. I mostly just missed beating up Nazis and thought the movie was a bit stale in general. I'm super picky about my action movies though. I basically like Raiders, Aliens and Die Hard. Oh, Mad Max is pretty OK and I really liked the first two Terminators.
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"Yes." Kosh
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Honestly, I enjoyed Indy 4 and had no problem with Shia the beef.
This.
Also: Indiana Jones and the 20x20 Rubix Cube of Doom and Dying.
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Honestly, I enjoyed Indy 4 and had no problem with Shia the beef.
This.
Also: Indiana Jones and the 20x20 Rubix Cube of Doom and Dying.
A better title than Kingdom of the Crystal skull
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i'd love to see another one in the series. but not if they're gonna do it like they did 4.
another option is the son taking over the family trade. i like shia lebouf, but if ford isn't in there, it's just not going to be the same movie.
btw, if you like shia lebouf, see eagle eye. he's really good in that one.
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I have no problem with Shia either. I think he's going to become a really really great actor, he just has to find the part that's gonna make people fall for him.
It's a shame that Indy 4 was so badly written and had such poor effects though, isn't it? It suffered from the constant rewrites and criss-crossing of various scripts to the point that the end result was a total let down. It's a shame because they did have so many good ideas, in addition to the awful ones. With some restraint, something that George Lucas no longer seems to have, Indy 4 could have been fantastic. But it wasn't. It was just 'bleh' and both the franchise and the fans deserved so much more.