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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: Professor Snuggles on 10 Jul 2009, 17:26
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I was thinking about this earlier, and if anyone has, I'd really love to see it. I am very curious as to what the fans of this comic have imagined happening in the universe non-canonically.
Either post stories, or links, or hell, maybe no ones done it at all. But if you have it would sure be awesome to see.
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Eh, that would weird.
That and someone would eventually write slash fiction. I don't think anyone here wants to read Marty/Steve/Amir slash fics.
OR DO THEY?
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That and someone would eventually write slash fiction. I don't think anyone here wants to read Marty/Steve/Amir slash fics.
Speak for yourself dude.
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Rule 34 also works for slash fiction - if it exists, there is someone who wants to read it.
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Guys we are not talking about slash, although if anyone has written any and wants to post it I would probably read that too. I just want regular fanfiction.
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This is actually a better idea than I thought it would be when I first saw the thread title. However, be warned that I'm not sure how Jeph'd like slash fiction being posted in here. I'm pretty sure it would be unappreciated and you'd probably be banned.
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Drabble competition!
But seriously, if shipping is creepy enough for the banhammer to come out, I suspect reactions to fic (slash or otherwise), would not be good.
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Rule 34 also works for slash fiction - if it exists, there is someone who wants to read it.
i was thinking rule 34 myself but you beat me to it.
my thing is, it's bound to happen sometime... there's MYTHBUSTERS slash fiction, isn't there?
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But seriously, if shipping is creepy enough for the banhammer to come out, I suspect reactions to fic (slash or otherwise), would not be good.
Having spent most of my teenage years on Livejournal, I'm still working my head around the idea that the internet is not solely populated by shippers and slashers... Don't really see the harm in fanfiction of any sort, though.
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Jeph just might not want fanfics based on his works. IIRC, there are several writers who are opposed to fanfiction, including George R. R. Martin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_R._R._Martin#Fan_relationship
I actually had to look up shipping, first time I've heard that term.
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Someone once linked to a winslow/hanners fic. Non-erotic. Point is, it's out there.
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Someone should follow up on that "QCmiller" pic that some dude did for Jeph ages back - you know, the Sin City/Frank Miller style.
I would read a fanfic with that sort of thing. =P
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Having spent most of my teenage years on Livejournal, I'm still working my head around the idea that the internet is not solely populated by shippers and slashers... Don't really see the harm in fanfiction of any sort, though.
If you can't see the harm in fanfiction (even the non-slash kind) then you clearly haven't read enough.
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If you can't see the harm in fanfiction, then clearly you've never heard of Fandom Wank (http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank).
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On the other hand...
July 13, 2009 11:12pm
Somewhere, right now, someone is writing Wil/Coleridge/Ancient Mariner slash fiction.
Hott.
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Someone up to the challenge? =D
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Does fanfic have to be for the express purpose of shipping? Use your imaginations, folks.
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Jeph already got the ball rolling on a bit of fic (http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/1386alternate.png).
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If you can't see the harm in fanfiction, then clearly you've never heard of Fandom Wank (http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank).
There's a difference between harm and moronic hysterics.
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And, of course, he has fed the rule 34 beast. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1024)
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Look at the guest comic for today you insufferable shits.
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Someone should follow up on that "QCmiller" pic that some dude did for Jeph ages back - you know, the Sin City/Frank Miller style.
where would i find such a pic?
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And somewhere out there someone has written a Hanners/Faye/Tai fic
Count on it
And no, I haven't, my writing is limited to Original Works and Star Trek.
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Absent any word from Jeph on the subject, I'd discourage posting fanfic here, on the grounds that being creative with Jeph's characters is Jeph's sole privilege.
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Ah, but does a 'fic have to include Jeph's characters to be QC-ish?
Anthro-PCs, orbital weapons platforms, USDoKYA, the mysterious singularity, and all the rest are all ripe for the proverbial picking without involving any of the main cast, even as cameos.
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Absent any word from Jeph on the subject, I'd discourage posting fanfic here, on the grounds that being creative with Jeph's characters is Jeph's sole privilege.
I concur.
At times the existence of the Fanart thread has also made me uneasy; but that was set up originally with the intention that Jeph would take what he liked from it to build a fanart page on the comic site. However, that never happened. So it remains, with the understanding that it will be moderated according to the rules of the rest of the forum.
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Marten arrived home to a smoky apartment.
"Sorry," Faye said. "I still haven't gotten the hang of this toast thing."
"That's OK," Marten said. "Open a window and I'll get the fan out of the broom closet."
"I didn't know we had a fan," Faye said.
"I didn't know we had a broom closet," Marten said. " Let's see, let's see, where is the fan ...?"
"I don't think there is a fan," Faye said. "I think you made it up. The fan's fictional."
"No, here it is," Marten said. "Here's the power cord."
"That's just an extension cord," Faye said. " There's no fan on the other end."
"There was," Marten said. "Look, it's been cut. Did you do that, Pintsize?"
"Mmmmmmmmaybe, " said the robot, hurriedly hiding what looked like a miniature katana.
"Would that," said Hannelore, suddenly appearing in the apartment in a way no one had ever figured out, "be slash fiction?"
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:psyduck: No, that would be five dollars in the jar for excessively egregious punning. :police:
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"We need a new fan," Marten said. "I'll go to the store."
"Can't we just have them deliver one?" Faye asked.
"That's not allowed," Hannelore said. "It's shipping."
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You win one free Interweb for that. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Keep your acceptance speech as short as possible please
Russell Crowe will be timing you.
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Woah my brain ouch that was so meta
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Well, that kills that idea. No way anything can surpass the DSL touch!
...or, for that matter, survive it...
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Are ya sayin' I killed the thread? At least I'm more fun than the banhammer ...
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Time will tell....
but I'm not gonna hold my breath!
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Absent any word from Jeph on the subject, I'd discourage posting fanfic here, on the grounds that being creative with Jeph's characters is Jeph's sole privilege.
I concur.
At times the existence of the Fanart thread has also made me uneasy; but that was set up originally with the intention that Jeph would take what he liked from it to build a fanart page on the comic site. However, that never happened. So it remains, with the understanding that it will be moderated according to the rules of the rest of the forum.
Aww, but I wanna see people's takes on Pintsize being damaged in hilarious ways!!
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All right, I give. I have some. However, I'm dread to post it here because I don't wish to anger Mr. Hodges nor do I wish to anger Jeph.
Basically, it's a story about a fictional band that visits Northampton and runs into (most of) the QC cast. The catch is that the fictional band isn't "Indie" - they're a CCM band. (Think Switchfoot, but older - more like Petra.)
No, there's no sex, slash/pairing or anything like that in it. It's just interactions with the various characters (except, for some reason, Hanners). Of course, if you know what CCM is, you can guess the gist of the story. No, it's not a Chick-tract, beat you over the head with a Bible type of story. It's just genuine interaction with the characters.
It's in the same spirit as an older FF I did for another favorite webcomic of mine - Wapsi Square. That one, though, was just a "wander through their world" kind of thing.
Anyways - I'm hesitant to post it. I don't even want to put it up on Scribd, next to the QCSxS and the Cast List docs.
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That doesn't sound like a thing that I would have any issues with. My caution is simply because the term fan-fiction immediately brings up images of the seamier kind of thing that is all too common.
While I'm at it, I should also remark that the particular images in the fanart thread that I was specifically concerned about in my earlier remarks (and which were complained about at the time) are no longer there; not, in fact, because I removed them - they were already inaccessible when I went through the thread yesterday pruning out dead links and discussion that relied on them (over a third of the thread). There is already a very brief fan-fiction post in there, so using that thread for more would seem to be in order.
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Absolutely! Fiction is an art, after all, so fanfiction is fanart. However, I recommend linking anything longer than a few paragraphs for the sake of those of us who will be reading it.
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I do know of a writer who (with permission of the artist) has written a series based on a popular webcomic. It's John Ringo's "Troy Rising" series and it's a prequel to Howard Tayler's webcomic, "Schlock Mercenary". Ringo's series takes in the same "universe" as Tayler's comic but in the distant past, so there's no interaction between Taylers and Ringo's characters.
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Welcome, new person!
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All right, I give. I have some. However, I'm dread to post it here because I don't wish to anger Mr. Hodges nor do I wish to anger Jeph.
Basically, it's a story about a fictional band that visits Northampton and runs into (most of) the QC cast. The catch is that the fictional band isn't "Indie" - they're a CCM band. (Think Switchfoot, but older - more like Petra.)
As I read this thread tonight, I thought of Jimmy Johnson's brief Peanuts arc. http://www.gocomics.com/arloandjanis/1997/10/13
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I was just thinking the same thing. The newest comic shows Marigold reading some on fanfiction.net, so I looked. I was quite disappointed to find that it doesn't actually exist.
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The write-up on FFDN on Wikipedia states that they were essentially forced to take R/NC-17 stuff down from their site, so...
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Does fanfic have to be for the express purpose of shipping?
Theoretically no, but one has to consider the likely motives for writing amateur fan-fiction.
I once wrote a completely original detective/adventure story set in Shanghai circa 1935 featuring a not at all self-insert (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SelfInsertFic) plucky young (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KidSidekick) orphan (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ParentalAbandonment) sampan-girl (let's call her 苏玛丽 or Su Mali...), and an American hero who bore no resemblance whatever (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CaptainErsatz) to a well-known fedora-wearing archeologist. It would never have been written if I hadn't had a soft spot for a certain American actor, and not coincidently, it was very bad.
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Someone once linked to a winslow/hanners fic. Non-erotic. Point is, it's out there.
I would only read it if it were erotic.
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Does fanfic have to be for the express purpose of shipping?
Well for a comic like QC, really what else is there? They don't solve mysteries or go on adventures. They just sit around being friends or having relationships. What else would a QC fanfic be about if not some kind of "new" relationship? The only thing non-ship one could really write is a Mary Sue befriends the cast, platonicly of course, story.
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It would be possible to add backstory, or pursue speculative story arcs like Marten doing something with his life, or Hannelore inheriting her mother's empire and cadre of minions.
Scenes from the struggle for robot civil rights would be interesting too.
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A couple of us have written some non-erotic, non mary-sue fanfics. They're in the fanart thread.
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First panel: Pintsize sitting on the couch in the apartment with a backpack by its side.
Second panel: Pintsize is still sitting there, its a little darker.
Third panel: Pintsize is still sitting on the couch, and its brighter in the room.
Fourth panel: Pintsize - "I think Marten forgot me..."
Yep, I'm bad at this XD
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A couple of us have written some non-erotic, non mary-sue fanfics. They're in the fanart thread.
Where in the fanart thread
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Starting here. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,4954.msg1062646.html#msg1062646) Follow the thread a bit for more.
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It would be possible to add backstory, or pursue speculative story arcs like Marten doing something with his life, or Hannelore inheriting her mother's empire and cadre of minions.
Scenes from the struggle for robot civil rights would be interesting too.
Marten doing something with his life and not ending up in some form of relationship. Yawn.
Hanners running mom's company. Might work.
Robot civil right? Starring what QC characters? Why? Unlikely to feel like QC
My point was that QC is about friends hanging out and their interpersonal relationships. And it's funny. Take any of that away and it won't feel like QC. You may as well make up your own characters.
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What else would a QC fanfic be about if not some kind of "new" relationship?
Imagination can go further than that, you know.
You may as well make up your own characters.
Feel free.
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But why, when you can import all the known characteristics and background, building a new story without all that troublesome "character development"?
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QC is also wacky. It would still be QC-flavored if someone wrote up Steve's adventures as a secret agent.
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All QC fanfic would have to do to be QC fanfic would be to tell a story involving QC characters or the QC verse in a way that it's believably recognizable as such. It could be wacky, warm, serious, whatever. Doesn't have to ship or slash, although one could argue that any story is perforce about a relationship: Character with character, character with environment, Character with self. Judgment of its quality is another thing entirely. Nothing wrong with the idea of fanfic, even though it, like a lot of things, demonstrates Sturgeon's Law quite nicely.
Lot's of pro stuff out there that's basically paid-for fanfic, from Star Wars to Star Trek to Sherlock Holmes. Thousands of short stories and novels and what-have-you. The VenusPrime stuff in Arthur C. Clarke's 'verse, the expansion by other authors ofAsimov's Foundation 'Verse, the open invitation from Larry Niven to other authors to play in his Known Space 'verse. Some of it is of the "Oh, those poor trees" variety, and some of it is quite good.
By the way, I thought the fanfics linked by Carl-E and jwhouk in the fan art section were quite good.
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I think with any material, you are probably bound to get plenty of mediocre fanfiction but you always have the chance for a rare gem. It depends on the person writing, how the writing connects with you, and how the characters and narrative are approached and integrated. Personally, I'm a hopeless romantic. So a "slash" story is certainly not objectionable to me, especially if it centers on my preferred characters. I find it fascinating to see how people perceive the characters and see how they translate those elements that aren't told so explicity. For example, I know not everyone shares the same opinion on Marigold that I do (I think she's a sweetheart deep down), so obviously reading someone else's story may depict her differently than how I would.
I could definitely see a lot of Sci-Fi story possibilities because of the (seemingly huge) Anthro-PC market and the implementation of that technology into everyday life. It reminds me a lot of the anime/manga series Chobits from CLAMP.
On that note, I'm off to the fan-art forum to read some fanfics. :D
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although one could argue that any story is perforce about a relationship: Character with character, character with environment, Character with self.
This is exactly what I've been saying. Depending on what you call shipping, you can't write fanfics without shipping at some level.
By the way, I thought the fanfics linked by Carl-E and jwhouk in the fan art section were quite good.
I only read the christian rock one and felt it was okay. The writing was fine, but not a story I would care to read again. For some reason when I try to read the Bot one my eyes glaze and I can't get far enough into it to want to finish it. I don't know if it's the writing or the subject matter or if I'm just really tired.
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Depending on what you call shipping,
In common usage, as we use it here, shipping does not refer to just any relationship, but specifically to a non-canon romantic or intimate relationship of the kind that annoys our host if it is raised in this forum. Many stories including other relationships could be written that do not fall into this category.
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My understanding of the concept of "shipping" is the creation/advocacy in the reader's mind of a relationship between two characters, a relationship that is not realistic in light of evidence presented in-story. I also understand that "evidence presented in-story" is often in the eye of the beholder, beyond anything resembling reason.
EDIT : While you were writing, a moderator has flown over in his virtual A-10 Thunderbolt II and pickled off a laser-guided 2000-pound bunker-busting post. You may wish to review your post ...? No? Well, fine, then.
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It's discussed to death in the sticky thread: Conduct in this forum (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,25614.0.html). There should be no need to go over it again, seeing as you will all have read that...
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Your eternal optimism is so cute!
As an educator, I know full well that what should be read rarely is, and what is read is rarely remembered.
Although a mention of "the bearhat guy" might stir a few memories...
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That thread does read a bit strangely in places now that times here have changed; but it still serves a purpose, I think. I've considered pruning it a bit more (about half of it was pruned when it was make a sticky - the pruned posts are still on record, though hidden), but not done anything about it.