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Fun Stuff => ENJOY => Topic started by: Zingoleb on 06 Aug 2009, 03:45
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http://www.fox.com/cleveland/
Oh god no
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I seriously thought that this was a joke, a prank, something horrible that really could not happen. But wikipedia says it's so and with a convincingly large amount of information.
I hate family guy enough as it is and American Dad is pretty much just the same but with a few different characters. Seth MacFarlane, isn't 2 painfully unfunny shows enough for you? I hope this crashes and burns. Painfully.
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No, I really love Family Guy, and American Dad I can tolerate, but even I cannot see how this will be anything other than oh god no
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I really like Family Guy - though the last season was just generally a bit of a miss - and I like American Dad too, which only seems to be getting better as it goes along... but yeah, I can't see this succeeding in any way shape or form. Spin-offs like this, as far as I've seen, never seem to get the uptake the network or creators seem to be expecting, and from one of - in my opinion - the most uninteresting characters on the show?
I mean of all the supporting cast, why Cleveland? I can't imagine getting more than a couple of cheap laughs out of maybe Quagmire or Joe if they had their own show before that got boring, but I can't see any way at all they could keep the Cleveland character as he is and have this be a hit.
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It is okay if you guys like it, but seriously, Family Guy is really terrible.
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OK, so it's true that Family Guy is inane and largely idiotic slapstick and bathroom humor but I still love it a lot. I like it for what it is and such. But this....this spin-off is an awful idea. Cleavland is a pretty useless character. He's boring and never seems to have much of a role in anything. I have no desire to see more of him in any capacity. He makes an OK, if somewhat pointless, side character on Family Guy but I just don't see how his character can translate into something more. I mean, this show basically looks the same as Family Guy character-wise: the fat, probably nerdy son, the funny, weird little baby and the daughter who here looks kinda diva-ish instead of Meg's looserishness. The point is, it seems like MacFarlane and co. took Family Guy caricatures and made them black. And that was it. Also, since when does Cleavland have kids? I mean, couldn't they just have made a new character up? Why did they take Cleavland and change him. It doesn't make any sense. Is Peter going to be a bit character on this show or did Cleavland move and remarry and somehow have a teenage daughter without aging? It makes no sense!
Argh.
tl;dr this is going to suck
edit: I watched the trailer. Guess that answers some of my questions. It's still gonna suck though.
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How can it NOT work? I mean, Kanye West is scheduled to guest and he'll voice a character called Kenny West. KANYE WEST WILL BE CALLED KENNY WEST! Wow.
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The exact same formula for three shows in a row? these guys are just unbelievable.
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No no. You see, his neighbours are talking bears. How can this not work?
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And according to Wikipedia, his other neighbour is a hipster wannabe. WOW!
Guys, this is a show no one should miss. it will be great.
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i thought the talking bears was one of those "remember that time..." family guy style jokes. guess not. wow
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I remember high school when I would hear from about 5 different people "OMG, Did you see that Family Guy episode where.......?" and then about 2 of those kids started saying "Hey, did you see that episode of American Dad where..............?" The only time I'm actually able to sit through the show is when I'm sitting on the couch playing my DS or PSP and it's going on in the background. I'm actually kind of glad I don't have cable anymore, one of the fine points of being a student.
And aren't all Family Guy jokes "remember that time?" Or am I forgetting the incredibly unfunny things that Stewie says?
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There are a few of these
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j309/buzzbuzz312/454px-Family_guy_bingo.jpg?t=1249625665)
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-> Blue Kitty
You're my new favourite person.
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Family Guy is one of those shows I feel bad for leaving my TV on when I'm doing something else, including sleeping. I don't want to give Seth MacFarlane any more money than he would normally get.
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I could win at that bingo game in about 2 minutes
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OK, so it's true that Family Guy is inane and largely idiotic slapstick and bathroom humor but I still love it a lot. I like it for what it is and such. But this....this spin-off is an awful idea.
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(http://j.photos.cx/clevelandshow_kiss-e40.gif)
Apparently this is from the pilot
Which you can see here (http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php/happy-4th-of-july-the-cleveland-show-pilot-episode/)
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Good lord, and I thought Cleveland was boring before...
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WE HAVE A WINNER
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I didn't think it would be that bad
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I guess it is! Haha! I guess it is.
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I lasted 9 minutes. God that was absolutely horrible. And from what I've heard they're ordering a second season as well.....dear god what is wrong with people.
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I lasted 9 minutes. God that was absolutely horrible.
Wow... most guys don't even last 5 minutes and they think it's fantastic. Kudos for having high standards, but isn't she chafing?
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I lasted 9 minutes. God that was absolutely horrible.
Wow... most guys don't even last 5 minutes and they think it's fantastic. Kudos for having high standards, but isn't she chafing?
Wow, congratulations. I actually think you're the first person to make a joke like that to me in a good 3-4 years. I'd give you a medal but I don't think you get one for mediocrity.
And can someone explain to me how this isn't just Family Guy but with different looking characters?
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This is Family Guy with the same characters.
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And can someone explain to me how this isn't just Family Guy but with different looking characters?
People find Family Guy entertaining?
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OK, so it's true that Family Guy is inane and largely idiotic slapstick and bathroom humor but I still love it a lot. I like it for what it is and such.
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OK, so it's true that Family Guy is inane and largely idiotic slapstick and bathroom humor but I still love it a lot.
No, see, it's not. That might actually be funny. Shows have succeeded on that premise since the dawn of humor and been good. That's not Family Guy.
Family Guy is just referencing something and waiting for the audience to laugh because they understood that something was references.
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You are right. But, honsetly, I enjoy referential humor. I loved that Powerpuff Girls episode where they use Beatles references. Family Guy uses them too much, yes, but I still enjoy watching it.
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I'm not sure. Granted, the funniest thing I can think of seeing on Family Guy was where Peter finds the video tape from The Ring. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_vOJ1g26gg&feature=related) but that was more the combination of his expression at the end than the reference itself.
Shortly after that is the dare to drink eight cases of ipecac (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eYSpIz2FjU) which isn't a reference to anything (as far as I know), but is just your basic 'gross out' humour at work I guess.
A lot of the referential humor for me is a miss, perhaps because a lot of it seems to be 80's based (which I can barely remember, being as I was born in that decade), I don't know. Most of the gags I enjoy aren't referential, at any rate... though I'd never go as far as to suggest it's top quality AAA comedy writing.
I could be the minority, though... I'm pretty easily amused for the most part anyway, to the extent where I recently challenged myself to see if I actually could watch a movie and class it as a terrible one without enjoying it on it's own merits, as I have done for other really bad movies like Eragon and even Step Brothers.
On that note though, I did pass (or fail)the test (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0891592/).
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There's a difference between using occasional clever references like on the Powerpuff Girls and making blatant references and even moment-for-moment references to shows and movies and musicals without any creative input at all, which was what a good percentage of Family Guy's jokes rely on.
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Again, I agree with what you're saying. Maybe, I just can't explain why I enjoy Family Guy. I just think it's funny. Not genius. Some episodes are completely, completely unfunny. But I think the references are funny. Like that Great Space Coaster part where they get lost and can't get back. I thought it was funny. It may be stupid, it may be unoriginal, but I like it.
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Saw an episode of this. It was like watching an unfunny trainwreck in action.
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an unfunny trainwreck
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Saw an episode of this. It was like watching Family Guy.
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The people who can sit through entire episodes of Family Guy must be blessed/cursed with far more patience than I've ever had. I'll admit to having seen bits from the show that have made me laugh before, but the wheat to chaff ratio is just so insanely bad. For example, that Buzz Killington bullshit. The dude is boring and his name is a pun. That's the joke. Jesus Christ.
Besides, we have the internet now. Let's be generous and say that the Family Guy writers manage to crap out a watchable scene every couple of seasons; why the hell should I bother to sit through whole episodes to find it? God knows some idiot will forward it to me eventually anyway.
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Besides, we have the internet now. Let's be generous and say that the Family Guy writers manage to crap out a watchable episode every couple of seasons; why the hell should I sit through the whole season to find it? God knows some idiot will forward it to me eventually anyway.
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So before it even aired, this show had 1 22-episode season purchased, as well as 13 episodes of a second season. Now after less than a half-dozen episodes, FOX has picked up the rest if the second season, slating a total of 44 episodes.
Damn you, Firefly executives.
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Besides, we have the internet now. Let's be generous and say that the Family Guy writers manage to crap out a watchable episode every couple of seasons; why the hell should I sit through the whole season to find it? God knows some idiot will forward it to me eventually anyway.
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Nah, that interpretation wasn't what I meant to type either. I was distracted. It's fixed now.
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You guys are kind of embarrassingly similar to those you judge. Its a fine show for what it is. More importantly its existence does not negatively affect you in any real way.
People hate hipster for the quickness to judge and general snobby ways. Neo-hipsters try to define themselves by being the exact opposite.
Seriously, live and let die.
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You do this about once a year and it's funny because it's basically like tattooing "Hypocrite" on your forehead. We're talking about a show we don't like. You come in judging us for being judgmental. It's like really inept performance art.
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I don't like it because I find it incredibly offensive for the most part.
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Maybe its because I expect more out of you. It reminds me of 'work friends' whose friendship largely consists of talking or more likely complaining about work when outside of it.
And can you really justify "I lasted 9 minutes. God that was absolutely horrible." as a normal reaction to 'bad' comedic entertainment. And you are welcome to judge me for judging you, but I actively dont partake in the general hate/love fests that come along on this forum. But before I voice an opinion I independently form an opinion and have the conviction to back it up regardless of other peoples opinion and unless I have something new to offer the conversation I stay quiet.
But every once in a while (you said about once a year) it gets to me, and I feel like I should make a stand.
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I don't think anybody here goes out of their way to avoid family guy. They don't need to because they never have to. I don't think anybody here will even go out of their way to say "I don't enjoy it". Infact, I bet nobody here even thinks about Family Guy, ever, unless it is mentioned by somebody else first. The thing about Family Guy is that is has had absolutely zero impact on our lives and we don't really care about the show whatsoever. But the topic came up on a forum we all frequent and are active contributors to. It's a pretty quiet forum.
We have opinions on the show and this is a good opportunity to share them because nobody here is sad enough to actually sit down with a friend and talk about how awful Family Guy is unless somebody else brings the topic up first.
Have you never talked about something you don't like to pass the time?
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Saw an episode of this. It was like watching Family Guy.
Yeah pretty much
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So it was a lot like watching American Dad ?
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Yeah
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Another thing: The Simpsons are the only non-McFarlane cartoon on Fox.
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How did a discussion of this show get to 2 pages?
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Dark magic.
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If we want to reverse it, we must sacrifice all our posts.(in this thread)
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They secretly have photos of Rupert Murdoch and the midget in the banana suit.
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The problem with your "conviction" in this argument is twofold. Firstly, you purport the flawed premise that we're just snobs who are too quick to judge your show. A show that's "fine, for what it is," whatever you mean by that. All this ties to the "judging whilst being judgmental" comment Alex mentioned. Secondly, you make it sound like you'll only enter a discussion like this when you've already made up your mind. When you're unwilling to change your views. That's the impression I get from your comments in this thread, at least.
Oh no, Im not saying you are too quick to judge a show. Im saying you watched a show that isn't targeted to you with the full intention of not liking it and then came here to say I hated it first/the most.
And two, whatever I 'make it sound', I bear witness to these discussions and am generally unsurprised about the contents. Generally speaking I have nothing to add so I dont post. But sometimes in extreme cases I feel the need to pipe up and say something, about the discussers rather than the discussion. When I entered this thread there were, for the most part, two types of posts. Posts that consist of I hate it because it is just like Family Guy/American Dad (which deserves a resounding durrrrr), and posts that consist of IT SUXXXXXX (though very slightly more glib).
And I would love to pull up some search history but the advanced search is kind of broken for me so all I found was this (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,5160.0.html) which is a bit interesting since the show is as it always was.
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Who is this show targeted to anyway?
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Jive Turkeys
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Can we dislike it because it's bad, not because it's a lot like Family Guy?
McFarlane, to me, is like the Stephenie Meyer of television.
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Stephenie Meyer is the Seth Macfarlane of literature.
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Am I the first person to think that Cleveland's mustache looks like someone crapped it into place?
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Saw an episode of this. It was like watching Family Guy.
So it was a lot like watching American Dad ?
That's a lot like watching the Cleveland Show.
Hey...wait a second...!