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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: JD on 17 Aug 2009, 00:19
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I like the dresses, though Dora could lose the hat.
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Hawesome!!!
Angus needs to get his ass to The Revelation, posthaste!
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Yay more (sort of) victorian outfits!
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*cough* worry hat.
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I love dapper hats.
Even saying it is fun.
Dapper hat.
"Brotrayed" is also suitably amusing.
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Why why WHYYYYYYY can't artists ever properly draw corsets??!!!!
Honestly, this isn't that bad, I'm mostly annoyed because of other webcomics where this issue came up recently. The way that corsets and bodices are constructed to create that super cleavage is NOT by being a wonderbra, but by squashing boobs up and FLAT. Medieval and Renaissance corsetry would have given women an altogether flat front, while as Victorian corsetry did provide a curved one, but one should not be able to see the naturallish undercurve of the breast in either case. Lifting and separating was not the game.
http://www.roundtwocostumes.com/galleries/SSS6.jpg
http://z.hubpages.com/u/161837_f260.jpg
http://www.shootingstarhistory.com/silkcorsetfront.jpg
Flat of course, not meaning "without cleavage."
http://www.crimsongypsy.com/bodices_corsets/bodice2.jpg
As opposed to modern "corset-style" tops like these, which don't have the same construction and thus meld to the figure (but also don't have the uplift):
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B6J6nGs6VwA/SV93CJSfOaI/AAAAAAAAOCw/QrbwTYdeepM/s400/Laceup+corset+vs.jpg
https://www.fashionsthrutime.com/catalog/images/Bodice.JPG
http://www.allthingsrenaissance.com/bodices/bodice1.jpg
Again, this is really a pet peeve triggered by other things mostly, but still...
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Did you consider the possibility that the costumes the gang are wearing are actually modern clothes made to look like Victorian fasion, but designed with modern ideals about beauty and built for the modern expectation of comfort using modern construction methods?
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Did you also consider the fact that
They're Frakking CARTOON CHARACTERS!!!!!
Sorry, had a little she-hulk moment there (If it's possible for a guy to have a she-hulk moment.)
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Then you had a regular hulk moment.
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Did you consider the possibility that the costumes the gang are wearing are actually modern clothes made to look like Victorian fasion, but designed with modern ideals about beuty and built for the modern expectation of comfort using modern construction methods?
I did. I also didn't go off on the various other "inaccuracies" in the clothes, because I assume they are period-inspired rather than actually period. But if Marigold is commenting on her corset's cleavage-enhancement, then chances are it is an actual corset. (By the way, classical-type corsets and bodices are soooooo much more comfortable than modern underwire and push-ups.)
And of COURSE they're cartoon characters. That's why I'm commenting on how their clothing is DRAWN.
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I wouldn't know about that, not having the boobs myself.
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HULK DEMAND FAINTING COUCH!!!
(couldn't resist :-P)
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Jeph - we don't get tired of the Victorian costumes either - we all win.
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I demand a poster of all the QC cast in Victorian clothing, sepia tinted! Demand, I say! :-D Great comic again.
Simple example, took ten seconds or so:
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5820/qcsepia.jpg) (http://img36.imageshack.us/i/qcsepia.jpg/)
Because everything looks better in sepia.
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next thing we know pintsize winslow and momo-tan find a way to mess with the space time continum and accidentally change the universe to have current everything but victorian era clothing.
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Hmm.
I guess the small bubbles near the head mark who is how drunk.
So that translates to:
Dora, Faye, Merigold = drunk
Hanners, Marten = still quite sober
I sense a pattern there.
And yes I dont think these are ORIGINAL clothes HUNDREDS OF YEARS OLD.
For those would be
(a) extremely supersupersuperexpensive
(b) extremely fragile (the "dont touch or its in pieces" kind of fragile)
(c) too small for todays people
I doubt any of the originals survived that long, though.
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nitpicking aside, i quite enjoy this comic.
maximum ridiculosity in numbers.
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Can't get enough of Monocle-Marten...
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Hmm.
I guess the small bubbles near the head mark who is how drunk.
So that translates to:
Dora, Faye, Merigold = drunk
Hanners, Marten = still quite sober
I sense a pattern there.
And yes I dont think these are ORIGINAL clothes HUNDREDS OF YEARS OLD.
For those would be
(a) extremely supersupersuperexpensive
(b) extremely fragile (the "dont touch or its in pieces" kind of fragile)
(c) too small for todays people
I doubt any of the originals survived that long, though.
Marten's bubbles are off-panel, I think.
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Hooray for old-timey costumes! And no awkward zone to concquer this time!
Monocle-Marten needs to appear more often.
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I want a bar where I can dress up as a victorian :(
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That would be any bar in existence - bars that have victorian clothes for you to dress up in are a different story.
Although I look good in a 19th century gunner's uniform.
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You'd probably find me in the bar that offers Old West dress-ups. I wouldn't even need their clothing stock, I'd just show up in my 'Man With No Name' costume. I've got the poncho and everything.
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I was going to make a smart ass comment to the person bitching about the incorrect drawing of boob curvature on Marigold's corset but then I thought, wait a second, I HAVE a life.
Angus is being a real wanker here. I want to smack him.
*wait a second, I'm reacting emotionally to two dimensional comic characters... maybe I DON'T have a life either...
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Will I ever get tired of drawing my characters in Victorian-era-esque clothing? All sources point to "no"
Will I ever get tired of seeing your characters in Victorian-era-esque clothing? All sources point to "no" [The boob thing definitely helps.]
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I was thinking that Angus was being over dramatic about Marten not inviting him out, but then I got to thinking of all the possible reasons he might be that upset about it and was thinking that a combo of several reasons might explain it.
1) Marten is a fairly new friend. Angus is thinking of him as a bro, but he might be thinking that Marten's failure to invite him means that Marten doesn't.
2) Angus may see this as a missed opportunity to become part of their group.
3) Marten knows that he's interested in Faye. The brotrayal might be Marten denying him the chance to hang with Faye and possible gain some ground.
4) Angus is bummed about not getting to spend the evening surrounded by a gaggle of tipsy ladies.
5) Maybe he's had a rough day at work and could really have used a night out with friends.
6) Nobody likes being left out of a fun outing.
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7) He wants the smack down for being a whiny b* that Momo-tan seems to be contemplating.
8) He lacks that level of social assertiveness necessary to just go down to the bar himself.
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that makes sense. i mean, nobody likes missing out!
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As long as someone's being nitpicky, I should point out that Dora meant that she can't decide whom to ravage first (objective form, dontcha know). Inebriation and Victorian garb combined are no reason for bad grammar... :)
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And if you're going to be nitpicky, that would be 'ravish' not 'ravage'. Important distinction. :-P
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I hear they can be done simultaneously.
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To get off the subject of period-corsetry... why is Momo USING a computer? Why not just wire(less) herself in?
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Maybe Warcraft doesn't have that compatibility.
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maybe she was doing naughty things with it. o_o
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I was thinking that Angus was being over dramatic about Marten not inviting him out, but then I got to thinking of all the possible reasons he might be that upset about it and was thinking that a combo of several reasons might explain it.
1) Marten is a fairly new friend. Angus is thinking of him as a bro, but he might be thinking that Marten's failure to invite him means that Marten doesn't.
2) Angus may see this as a missed opportunity to become part of their group.
3) Marten knows that he's interested in Faye. The brotrayal might be Marten denying him the chance to hang with Faye and possible gain some ground.
4) Angus is bummed about not getting to spend the evening surrounded by a gaggle of tipsy ladies.
5) Maybe he's had a rough day at work and could really have used a night out with friends.
6) Nobody likes being left out of a fun outing.
my best guess is 2, 5 and 6. I hate number 6 and I always go out of the way to make everyone included in events I am having, or a drinking night. Well maybe not out of the way but. You know I just dont like being left out or leaving people out, lets leave it at that. :wink:
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I demand a poster of all the QC cast in Victorian clothing, sepia tinted! Demand, I say! :-D Great comic again.
Agreed. I would love to see a print of this for sale, sepia or otherwise.
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So, is Hannelore going to get her own Victorian outfit for the next time they go to that bar?
Charleson Mambo
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If the last panel becomes a print,, they should include a secret image in it that you can only see if you look at it through a monocle.
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To get off the subject of period-corsetry... why is Momo USING a computer? Why not just wire(less) herself in?
Because that would be considered "botting" and she doesn't want to get Marigold's account banned.
"Shut up Angus! I'm healin' raidz!"
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So it's not okay to have a computer play for you; but perfectly fine to have a computer play for you using another computer? Heh.
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So it's not okay to have a computer play for you; but perfectly fine to have a computer play for you using another computer? Heh.
there has to be a yo dawg meme in there somewhere. :mrgreen:
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next thing we know pintsize winslow and momo-tan find a way to mess with the space time continum and accidentally change the universe to have current everything but victorian era clothing.
You've been reading Harry Harrison again haven't you. :D
Yay for Faux Victorianware. Sir Marten and wife out with Lady Fayemarch and ward. :D
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no, that exists? :?
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So it's not okay to have a computer play for you; but perfectly fine to have a computer play for you using another computer? Heh.
This is actually how online poker bots work, you use a second computer to actually run the mouse/keyboard input and it uses OCR on the screen output to get the information from the table. The software from the poker sites run detection programs on the native computer, so this is the only way to get it to work.
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Marigold, I can't believe it either.
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To get off the subject of period-corsetry... why is Momo USING a computer? Why not just wire(less) herself in?
Maybe because she wants to use a monitor with herself?
oh the dirty thoughts...
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I was thinking that Angus was being over dramatic about Marten not inviting him out, but then I got to thinking of all the possible reasons he might be that upset about it and was thinking that a combo of several reasons might explain it.
1) Marten is a fairly new friend. Angus is thinking of him as a bro, but he might be thinking that Marten's failure to invite him means that Marten doesn't.
2) Angus may see this as a missed opportunity to become part of their group.
3) Marten knows that he's interested in Faye. The brotrayal might be Marten denying him the chance to hang with Faye and possible gain some ground.
4) Angus is bummed about not getting to spend the evening surrounded by a gaggle of tipsy ladies.
5) Maybe he's had a rough day at work and could really have used a night out with friends.
6) Nobody likes being left out of a fun outing.
Of course no one likes being left out but Angus isn't just whinging because he's been left out, he's specifically complaining that Marigold got to go and he didn't. That shows a lack of emotional generosity in him and a lot if immaturity. If he were fifteen I could see him pouting about being left out when his little sister got to go but not as a fully formed adult. He needs to sack up.
But wait a second... he's not generous emotionally... he pouts when he doesn't get his way... he's kind of a douche bag... I take everything back, he's PERFECT for Faye. They deserve each other! Imagine he'll whine like a ninny and she'll punch him in the face and the whole thing will be a prelude to their disturbingly violent love life.
Ahhh Jeph, you wascally wabbit, you knew what you were doing all along eh?
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My only question is: How did Marigold get drunk? In other words, what alcohol goes well with Mountain Dew? :angel:
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Tobimaro, I've mixed it with orange juice and either peach schnapps or midori a couple of times before, but I like really sweet frou-frou drinks. She might have had something else though (besides sampling the beer).
maddness, the only time he's been invited along was by Marten *alone* that one time - otherwise, he's just happened to be there and invited himself. He's been trying for months now to join the group, without much luck, and Marigold just gets accepted without even trying. Since she's his housemate, and rather messy, he might just be a little frustrated with her in general, too.
JackFaerie, on the corset thing, Jeph specifically said they're Victorian-esque, not that they're accurate reproductions. Don't be a Costume Nazi!
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good lorf, there is no drink that goes well with that chartreuse poison.
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My only question is: How did Marigold get drunk? In other words, what alcohol goes well with Mountain Dew? :angel:
Rum, Vodka, Gin, Jagermeister, take your pick :evil:
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My only question is: How did Marigold get drunk? In other words, what alcohol goes well with Mountain Dew? :angel:
Remember, Marten had her trying out varying types of Beer earlier, and she had the Wine from Hanners which I think she liked, so she might have had a few more after that.
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JackFaerie, on the corset thing, Jeph specifically said they're Victorian-esque, not that they're accurate reproductions. Don't be a Costume Nazi!
I know, I know, which is why I didn't take any issue with, say, Marigold wearing what is basically underwear instead of clothes, or that her dress is half Victorian and half 18th c, or that Faye's sleeves don't match some other details of her costume period-wise, etc. I'm just saying that in general, corsets don't work that way: ie, the way that corset is drawn is a physical impossibility.
Unless, like, it's a super crazy corset painstakingly designed to have separate moulded push-up cups built in, which would make it nigh impossible to actually put on, among other things.
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JackFaerie, on the corset thing, Jeph specifically said they're Victorian-esque, not that they're accurate reproductions. Don't be a Costume Nazi!
I know, I know, which is why I didn't take any issue with, say, Marigold wearing what is basically underwear instead of clothes, or that her dress is half Victorian and half 18th c, or that Faye's sleeves don't match some other details of her costume period-wise, etc. I'm just saying that in general, corsets don't work that way: ie, the way that corset is drawn is a physical impossibility.
Unless, like, it's a super crazy corset painstakingly designed to have separate molded push-up cups built in, which would make it nigh impossible to actually put on, among other things.
...Or it's a completely made up piece of cartoon clothing that looks like a corset to the untrained eye, instead of being an actual "what's that? you have a c-cup and you want to breathe? HA!" corset. Seriously, we all have our areas of interest, but you are way over thinking this.
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...Or it's a completely made up piece of cartoon clothing that looks like a corset to the untrained eye, instead of being an actual "what's that? you have a c-cup and you want to breathe? HA!" corset. Seriously, we all have our areas of interest, but you are way over thinking this.
I'm not overthinking it, I'm saying "that's not how a corset looks"and also "if it IS a specialty piece of clothing that somehow looks like a corset and yet is not, man oh man would that be kinda ridiculously difficult to engineer and fit properly." It doesn't require much thinking at all to make either of those observations.
Now what I AM confused about now is what a c-cup (as opposed to any other cup?) has anything to do with breathing in corsets.
Anyway, I don't really care THAT much, I just... don't get WHY people can't seem to draw corsets properly, if they like to look at them...
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Seems like somebody needs to recite the MST3K Mantra (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MST3KMantra).
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Dammit, now everyone's linking to TVtropes.
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Ah, fart jokes. It's nice to see Marigold opening up a bit. Alcohol is one hell of a drug.
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Well, at least for this comic I can use my period knowledge to say that Jeph is right, talking about farts really only took off in the Edwardian era. :-P
http://ubu-esque.blogspot.com/2009/07/from-james-joyce-to-nora-barnacle.html
As so.
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One of the best comics, artistically, and jok-ially, in a long, long time.
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Well, at least for this comic I can use my period knowledge to say that Jeph is right, talking about farts really only took off in the Edwardian era. :-P
http://ubu-esque.blogspot.com/2009/07/from-james-joyce-to-nora-barnacle.html
As so.
AAAAUGHHGGH
AAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH
I'd heard about James Joyce's letters but oh god FUGHTING HOGHGRGH
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Actually the world's oldest recorded joke is about women not farting. It is Mesopotamian and dates back to 1,900 BC:
"Something which has never occurred since time immemorial; a young woman did not fart in her husband's lap."
I don't normally post here but as a female flatulence humor scientist I felt it was my duty.
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Well, at least for this comic I can use my period knowledge to say that Jeph is right, talking about farts really only took off in the Edwardian era. :-P
http://ubu-esque.blogspot.com/2009/07/from-james-joyce-to-nora-barnacle.html
As so.
AAAAUGHHGGH
AAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH
I'd heard about James Joyce's letters but oh god FUGHTING HOGHGRGH
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6711/jamesjoyce1.png)
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Actually the world's oldest recorded joke is about women not farting. It is Mesopotamian and dates back to 1,900 BC:
"Something which has never occurred since time immemorial; a young woman did not fart in her husband's lap."
I don't normally post here but as a female flatulence humor scientist I felt it was my duty.
I salute you!
hahaha nah pretty nice comic today. :mrgreen:
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Do female flatulence humor scientists study women's fart jokes that already exist, or create new ones?
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Do female flatulence humor scientists study women's fart jokes that already exist, or create new ones?
Much like history and archeology, female flatulence humor science is very much steeped in the rich oral traditions and recorded lore of long forgotten ancient civilizations.
While there is no such thing as perfection, as a practicioner of one of the oldest fields of scientific study I feel that female flatulence anecdotes are already quite advanced compared to other fields of science. For example, if the development of more efficient means of locomotion was as advanced as the development of women's dyspepsia tales, we would have achieved faster than light travel already.
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Much like history and archeology, female flatulence humor science is very much steeped in the rich oral traditions and recorded lore of long forgotten ancient civilizations.
So for the most time, you just study the existing anals , right?
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Dammit, now everyone's linking to TVtropes.
And I hate you all.
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Well, at least for this comic I can use my period knowledge to say that Jeph is right, talking about farts really only took off in the Edwardian era. :-P
http://ubu-esque.blogspot.com/2009/07/from-james-joyce-to-nora-barnacle.html
As so.
AAAAUGHHGGH
AAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH
I'd heard about James Joyce's letters but oh god FUGHTING HOGHGRGH
Puuh.
Good thing I closed the window immediately again after seeing there was nothing interesting linked.
(I'm in Comic exploration mode when reading this forum, so anything not a linked webcomic is not likely to get examined)
Dammit, now everyone's linking to TVtropes.
And I hate you all.
Me luv tvtropes.
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Well, at least for this comic I can use my period knowledge to say that Jeph is right, talking about farts really only took off in the Edwardian era. :-P
http://ubu-esque.blogspot.com/2009/07/from-james-joyce-to-nora-barnacle.html
As so.
Oh. As so. I see.
Excuse me while I wash my eyes out with soap.
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I love the way Marten continues to hold his pinky out in panel two while laughing. Now that's class!
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Awesome, I love how the night is going. It's obviously not over yet, because Marten hasn't had crotch trauma or been barfed on yet. = D
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good lorf, there is no drink that goes well with that chartreuse poison.
Blasphemy, I say!!
Vodka goes with it just fine.
8-)
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Alternate dialogue for Marten in Panel 3: "Being cool is SO uncool."
Also, these Victorian[-insipired :-P] outfits are giving me some bad flashbacks to AP English classes. "The Awakening" shall no doubt haunt my dreams tonight. THANKS JEPH.*
And a real thanks for the ustreaming (sp?) of the drawing process - it's pretty neat to see how it all happens.
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Yay! Fart jokes are always funny.
As for what goes with Mountain Dew, one of my favorite drinks is a Jim Belushi. It is Mountain Dew, orange juice, and vodka.
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I wonder if Mountain Dew tastes better with alcohol, cuz I don't like it.... XP
Does Marigold only drink Mountain Dew: Game Fuel, I wonder?
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Back in my pre-marital days, when I used to work 8+ hours then come home and spend 8+ hours online before sleeping for a maximum of 4 hours, I lived on Mt. Dew and coffee. I'm not sure I ever even drank water back then. Now I can't stand the stuff. It's just too sweet. I have had it mixed in alcoholic beverages and as long as you have something to balance out the sweetness of it, it's not bad.
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I wonder if Mountain Dew tastes better with alcohol, cuz I don't like it.... XP
Does Marigold only drink Mountain Dew: Game Fuel, I wonder?
ugh, game fuel. shameless motherfucking tie-in promotion. No WoW player I know will touch that.
Now, voltage (the blue stuff), that is the SHIT.
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Do female flatulence humor scientists study women's fart jokes that already exist, or create new ones?
Rosy Cookie Gases (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=73)
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AAAAUGHHGGH
AAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH
I'd heard about James Joyce's letters but oh god FUGHTING HOGHGRGH
Oh, I just HAD to click on it, didn't I... BLEEEEARGH! <barfy smiley>
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Propriety my dear people, propiety!
*Sniff*
It is flatulence my dear sirs and madams!
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Maude: Do you like fahts Mr. Lebowski?
The Dude: Farts?
Maude: Yes fahts, the physical act of passing gas, flatulence.
The Dude: We were talking about my rug...
Maude: I like them too.
The Dude: You mean flatulence?
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Apparently WoW can destroy even artificial inteligence.
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Am I the only one trying to find the double-entendre in "void my warranty"? OK then, I'll just join the creepy kids over here. --->
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I found it. Kinda obvious actually.
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I think that Mari-Bear is being a bit unreasonable here, after all, Momo is sitting in on the Raid for her.
Jimor, I really think we didn't need to know that
"Smithers, release the Hounds!
:D ;)
BTW, does anyone get the impression that roles just got reversed here?
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BTW, does anyone get the impression that roles just got reversed here?
No I hadn't noticed
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So we learnt today: droids are faster at getting MMO-addicted.
I myself have very heavy trouble to motivate myself playing my MMO right now.
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today's comic reminds me of my roomate (soon to be former) when he used to play WoW. With him as momo-tan and his GF as Mari-Bear.
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MMO or sex......such an obvious but difficult question.......
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MMO or sex......such an obvious but difficult question.......
oddly enough thats not why he quit. He quit because he got kicked out of the guild he created. :roll: The GF was so tired of being ignored she started playing too so she could spend time with him. :-P
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MMO or sex......such an obvious but difficult question.......
The only substitute for sex is more sex. :evil: :-D :angel:
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hehe I thought it was cute that Marigold was squealing at how much fun she had. :mrgreen:
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I'm just saying that in general, corsets don't work that way: ie, the way that corset is drawn is a physical impossibility.
Unless, like, it's a super crazy corset painstakingly designed to have separate moulded push-up cups built in, which would make it nigh impossible to actually put on, among other things.
Some do have cups built in: http://www.classiccorsets.com/item.asp?ProdID=2&ItemID=1057
Others follow the natural curve without flattening:
http://www.classiccorsets.com/item.asp?ProdID=2&ItemID=718
http://www.puimond.com/py06/5.jpg
http://www.absolutecorsets.com/overbust-corsets/brocade/vo-1106.htm
(probably NSFW, btw)
LeeC, I thought that was really cute, too! I was surprised by how Momo was acting - and you'd think she could multi-task to listen while playing, if she was in the middle of something. WOW has a lot of downtime (I don't play, but know lots of people who do).
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i really love how she squealed. it was the cutest thing ever. or at least, this week. qc has a lot of cute moments.
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Am I the only one trying to find the double-entendre in "void my warranty"? OK then, I'll just join the creepy kids over here. --->
Greetings! Welcome to historic Over Here.
Anyway, I have to say I lol'd at survey question #7. I can tell he's been told this before. You people are strange.
Wait, I'm Over Here; that's where the strange people are! Ack ack ack gettemoffmegettemoffme
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How can Marigold have a civil conversation while drunk? Or did the argument with Momo make her sober?
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i think its a mix of being drunk and wanting to tell someone about how great a time she had. Momo is probably just trying to finish the instance for mari and by the look of it is fatigued from it and just wants to finish. After all she is doing this for Mari so she could go out. thats probably why she is trying to stay focused because she has never played before, only watched Marigold play.
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I'm just saying that in general, corsets don't work that way: ie, the way that corset is drawn is a physical impossibility.
Unless, like, it's a super crazy corset painstakingly designed to have separate moulded push-up cups built in, which would make it nigh impossible to actually put on, among other things.
Some do have cups built in: http://www.classiccorsets.com/item.asp?ProdID=2&ItemID=1057
Others follow the natural curve without flattening:
http://www.classiccorsets.com/item.asp?ProdID=2&ItemID=718
http://www.puimond.com/py06/5.jpg
http://www.absolutecorsets.com/overbust-corsets/brocade/vo-1106.htm
(probably NSFW, btw)
Huh. Welp that first one looks about as uncomfortable as I thought it might be if they ever made one. And as silly-looking. Obviously a modern take on corsets rather than Victorian though--and would have to be custom-sized for the cups to fit well. It also doesn't give nearly the amount of uplift/cleavage a real corset would... But now I guess I know they do exist.
The second corset you linked still "flattens." I did not that Edwardian/Victorian corsets provided a curve, and this one has a very extreme curve, but there's still no under-boob crease. The fabric doesn't fold all the way under, as it did with Marigold's and Faye's outfits.
The third and forth are only corsets up to the ribs, and then have basically a bra built on top... and provide no more cleavage-enhancement than a regular bra. I know that those exist, but I didn't think they'd have made Marigold anywhere near that surprised at her bustline. I assume she knows what her boobs look like in a padded bra.
Annnnnnnnyway.
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Gotta say though: I watched the ustream for the first time today, and maaaaan, lots of admiration for Jeph's drawing. I draw too, but I could never do it that quick and clean and well on a tablet. Or that quick and neat in general. I remember I first noticed QC for its art, but it's been awhile since I took the time to look at just how much goes into it (and the progression from the first strips has always struck me as incredible).
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Well, that's one way to get Marigold out into the social world more often.
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No way, you know she's gettin' that PC fixed soon as humanly possible. Soon as inhumanly possible, even.
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::Makes a backup copy of important files::
At least she knows where to replace that hentai folder.
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Fuck damn. Marigold seems to have completely forgotten that Momo was doing her a favour.
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Panel 2 - obviously Momo *isn't* grounded...
:wink:
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I found myself shaking my head saying, "Oh god, I've been here..." Anytime something *pops* on a computer, it's not good. Even if it was just a capacitor, you're still ending up replacing the hardware. Hopefully she doesn't just rip it out of Momo. Literally.
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The whole PC part of AnthroPC seems to be a bit of an informed ability, I don't think we've seen one actually used as one, and from what we've seen from a few representative examples, I don't think that would generally be a good idea.
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Panel 2 - obviously Momo *isn't* grounded...
:wink:
i registered just so i could tell you that joke made my night. thank you good sir.
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Next strip we see Momo tied up and Marigold with an electro-afro :mrgreen:
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The expression marigold is looking for rhymes with "clucking bell"...
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The whole PC part of AnthroPC seems to be a bit of an informed ability, I don't think we've seen one actually used as one, and from what we've seen from a few representative examples, I don't think that would generally be a good idea.
We've seen pintsize used as a PC - in the strip where Marten had him set up a blog for his "ranting about music" thing and played with the dictation mode. But we've also seen someone (I think Tai?) comment that it's pretty much impossible to get any actual work done on an anthroPC.
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If you look at it from the right angle, Marigold is performing a Senator Palpatine on Momo in Panel 2. Actually, once you've seen that I don't think you can unsee it :-P
(http://www.geocities.com/jedi_vega/palpatine_files/image007.jpg)
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Fuck damn. Marigold seems to have completely forgotten that Momo was doing her a favour.
She's drunk, for what is almost certainly the first time in her life, given her clear inexperience with beer and wine. It's entirely plausible she did forget.
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What does "finish this instance" mean? I presume an "instance" is a game session, but why is it called that?
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its another name for dugeon. I dunno, when I first started playing when WoW first came out, its just what everyone called it.
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What does "finish this instance" mean? I presume an "instance" is a game session, but why is it called that?
Simple: The game creates specific "worlds" for each player so they can be The Hero even when there are 50'000 other players killing the same beasts. Any such world which is custom-created for one (or a small group) of players is an instance of the general world - i.e., where the general world description might only have information of the form "Here be 5 goblins", when a player actually comes along and enters the critical area, the game instantiates 5 actual goblins with stats that are carried throughout the session the player is having. If the player logs out prematurely, these instances might be deleted and his progress would be lost.
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Next strip we see Momo tied up and Marigold with an electro-afro :mrgreen:
Every morning when I wake up, I have an electric afro. It's AWESOME! :mrgreen:
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Panel 2 - obviously Momo *isn't* grounded...
:wink:
You, sir or madame, are chock full of win.
its another name for dugeon. I dunno, when I first started playing when WoW first came out, its just what everyone called it.
Not wholly. You can do half of the Black Fathoms Deep dungeon without launching an instance and I've just started Gnomergan and haven't run in to an instance yet.
If Marigold doesn't have back ups, she's going to be losing serious geek cred here.
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I love terrified Momo with terrified hair.
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The whole PC part of AnthroPC seems to be a bit of an informed ability, I don't think we've seen one actually used as one, and from what we've seen from a few representative examples, I don't think that would generally be a good idea.
We've seen pintsize used as a PC - in the strip where Marten had him set up a blog for his "ranting about music" thing and played with the dictation mode. But we've also seen someone (I think Tai?) comment that it's pretty much impossible to get any actual work done on an anthroPC.
It was Ellen: AnthroPCs (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=303)
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First thing that popped into my head upon reading today's comic - Ouch. :-(
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I'm not sure whether to commend Jeph for making a "grounded" joke himself or not.
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has it been stated that she was actually doing marigold a favor, or is that just an assumption?
i thought she was just... playing. -shrug-
edit: i read back and she is playing for marigold, whoops.
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The expression marigold is looking for rhymes with "clucking bell"...
Trucking well?
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Panel 2 - obviously Momo *isn't* grounded...
:wink:
Hell with you. I registered so I could make that joke. >_<
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The expression marigold is looking for rhymes with "clucking bell"...
Trucking well?
fucking hell!
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I think I like 'Gold so much because she's one of the few characters with long hair..
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I wonder what Marigold will do without a computer now. Unless she can play WoW on Momo.......>_>
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i would think she's either going to get it fixed or quit being such a damn nerd.
who knows?
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hey what is she going to do while she waits for parts? Hang out with her new friends. :mrgreen:
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Panel 2 - obviously Momo *isn't* grounded...
:wink:
Internet Highfive, place palm on screen to recieve.
This is why you don't let a robot that can emit static electricity stand near your computer.
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I wonder if she'll start having WoW withdrawals?
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hey what is she going to do while she waits for parts? Hang out with her new friends. :mrgreen:
Wait for parts? She probably has parts for five or six computers hidden behind the Yaoi.
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Jeph owes the estate of Charles Schultz a nickel.
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The expression marigold is looking for rhymes with "clucking bell"...
Trucking well?
fucking hell!
*sigh*
No shit.
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): fail.
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Not wholly. You can do half of the Black Fathoms Deep dungeon without launching an instance and I've just started Gnomergan and haven't run in to an instance yet.
If Marigold doesn't have back ups, she's going to be losing serious geek cred here.
I-rony. Losing serious geek cred.... and you're citing your experience in Gnomergan and BFD?
For the record, they're all fucking instances. Instance=dungeon, they're entirely interchangeable words.
From the official WoW site: "An instance is a personal copy of the dungeon for you and your party. The only players in this instance will be yourself and members of your party - no one else can enter your dungeon instance. Instances allow you and a group of friends to have a more personal experience exploring, adventuring, or completing quests in your own private dungeon."
The second you walk into Gnomer, or BFD... you're in an instance!
Gah! How can you correct someone when you obviously have a astoundingly rudimentary grasp of the game itself?! Nerd rage... hulking... out.
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The expression marigold is looking for rhymes with "clucking bell"...
Trucking well?
fucking hell!
*sigh*
No shit.
sorry dude ad a smiley and I would have known you were playing around. Thought you were giving a serious answer.
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Man. Marigold just got burned. I guess reasoning with an AnthroPC is not a good idea. Just look at Pintsize. :wink:
Well, at least for this comic I can use my period knowledge to say that Jeph is right, talking about farts really only took off in the Edwardian era. :-P
http://ubu-esque.blogspot.com/2009/07/from-james-joyce-to-nora-barnacle.html
As so.
And I see that literature has seriously gone downhill since the time of Joyce. :lol:
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Thus it was, because of the immense power surge introduced into the mains, the Great Cascade Blackout of 2009 had begun.
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Panel 2 - obviously Momo *isn't* grounded...
:wink:
i registered just so i could tell you that joke made my night. thank you good sir.
ditto
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AAAAAAUUUUUGGGGGGGHH!!!!!!!!
NOW what are they going to do?
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Well, if I were Marigold, I'd disable Momo's capacitor. If I were Momo, I'd let her.
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Not wholly. You can do half of the Black Fathoms Deep dungeon without launching an instance and I've just started Gnomergan and haven't run in to an instance yet.
If Marigold doesn't have back ups, she's going to be losing serious geek cred here.
I-rony. Losing serious geek cred.... and you're citing your experience in Gnomergan and BFD?
I don't know if you've heard, but there are other games besides WoW that people enjoy playing and the fact that I've only recently begun playing that particular game has nothing to do with geek cred. Also, gamers are not the only form of geekdom to be found. My point in this case was that she obviously knows something about computers and I would find it seriously hard to believe that she doesn't have buck ups at the very least.
For the record, they're all fucking instances. Instance=dungeon, they're entirely interchangeable words.
From the official WoW site: "An instance is a personal copy of the dungeon for you and your party. The only players in this instance will be yourself and members of your party - no one else can enter your dungeon instance. Instances allow you and a group of friends to have a more personal experience exploring, adventuring, or completing quests in your own private dungeon."
The second you walk into Gnomer, or BFD... you're in an instance!
Gah! How can you correct someone when you obviously have a astoundingly rudimentary grasp of the game itself?! Nerd rage... hulking... out.
The point, sir or madame, was that I was not the only person there in Gnomergan and the first half of Black Fathoms Deep. There were other players and parties there. By the definition you yourself posted that does not qualify as an instance. How then can the terms be interchangeable?
Also, as much as I'd really like to be a level 80 and sit at my computer for endless hours gaming, like I did when I was in my teens and early 20's, I've got 3 kids that run me from 6:30 am to 9 pm and it takes a really long time to level when you've got about 4 playable hours max per day, that's if I wouldn't rather spend that time with my husband watching a movie or something. Gotta have your priorities straight.
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For the record, they're all fucking instances. Instance=dungeon, they're entirely interchangeable words.
From the official WoW site: "An instance is a personal copy of the dungeon for you and your party. The only players in this instance will be yourself and members of your party - no one else can enter your dungeon instance. Instances allow you and a group of friends to have a more personal experience exploring, adventuring, or completing quests in your own private dungeon."
The second you walk into Gnomer, or BFD... you're in an instance!
Gah! How can you correct someone when you obviously have a astoundingly rudimentary grasp of the game itself?! Nerd rage... hulking... out.
had to get in on the nerdery. Admittedly I have never played WoW. However, in Everquest (the only true MMO,) There are dungeons that are not instances and instances that are not dungeons. Therefore, the words are not interchangeable.
pwned.
Also, it is entirely possible that Momo finished the raid and then got sucked into a regular after-raid group. I would think if she were still raiding she would have said "I want to finish this raid" rather than "instance." Either way, they were both being unreasonable.
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You're not actually in an instance until you walk through the swirly patch of corridor.
So there.
(To everyone else: most WoW dungeons have a "foyer" area, connected to the rest of the world and inhabited by monsters and so on. It isn't until you pass through the instance portal - which, as noted, looks like a semi-transparent vortex - that you/your group is shunted off into its own personal copy of the dungeon that's supposedly on the other side.)
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This just kinda happened during tonight's Ustream :lol: :
(http://i30.tinypic.com/wtyvl0.png)
Derp
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the fuck is this shit?
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This sort of reaction is not untypical.
Although in guild leader in a steady guild is understanding of computer exploding mishaps.
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the fuck is this shit?
THAT FUCKING SHIT LOOKS LIKE A PART OF PANEL 2.
GET US MOMO X SUPERSAYIAN WITH ELECTRO-EFFECTS NOW!
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Marigold+Epiphany+Computer Loss+ Knowledge of=Maricrash!
+++Reset Restart+++
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This just kinda happened during tonight's Ustream :lol: :
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Derp
I'm missing what you're trying to point out. :?
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I got that, but what was it doing there?
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Not wholly. You can do half of the Black Fathoms Deep dungeon without launching an instance and I've just started Gnomergan and haven't run in to an instance yet.
If Marigold doesn't have back ups, she's going to be losing serious geek cred here.
I-rony. Losing serious geek cred.... and you're citing your experience in Gnomergan and BFD?
For the record, they're all fucking instances. Instance=dungeon, they're entirely interchangeable words.
From the official WoW site: "An instance is a personal copy of the dungeon for you and your party.
And therefore a dungeon which does not create personal copies of itself for each party (as maddness asserts is the case) cannot be referred to as an instance. Try reading the stuff you are citing.
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"Drat"?
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Err, an "instance" is just a "copy" of something.
ANY copy.
For example, if you have 10 identical copies of a dungeons, each the same looking, its 10 instances. Even if you dont get your own personal copy, only have to choose the emptiest of the 10 by yourself.
Even more importantly, if there is only ONE copy of a dungeon, one can call it also "instance" or "THE (only) instance".
If you play WoW though there instances means something specific, i.e. dungeons. But in a different MMO, the same word may mean something else.
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Since Marigold turned up in the comic I've been expecting Jeph to lead her to this epiphany and have her make a subsequent transformation into a social butterfly.
I'm glad he didn't, I like Marigold the way she is.
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I don't know why but Marigold saying "Momo friggin' blew up my PC!" made me laugh and laugh. I think it was her use of the word "friggin'". Sometimes cursing isn't always the funniest way to express something apparently.
Watching Marigold and her crushing lack of self awareness makes me think of The Guild. Future Marigold=Vork.
"I wanna grow my money Tink; not spend it on CHEESE GOUGING!" Heeheehee.
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Since Marigold turned up in the comic I've been expecting Jeph to lead her to this epiphany and have her make a subsequent transformation into a social butterfly.
I'm glad he didn't, I like Marigold the way she is.
I am also glad. Not everyone likes being a social butterfly (I know I do not). Though I do wonder what Jeph will do with her, I doubt he would have included her in the comic unless she is the catalyst for some sort of change.
That being said, I am just waiting for an awkward Angus/Sven physical confrontation entirely separate from Marigold.
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Even more importantly, if there is only ONE copy of a dungeon, one can call it also "instance" or "THE (only) instance".
MMORPGS generally have a significant problem with competition. It's happened too many times to me that I've finally gathered together a group of friends to help me level or get a drop, only to find out that someone else is already doing it. If you're going after an enemy that only pops every 2-4 hours, does not drop the item every single time, and you don't know when it last died, this can be kind of tricky. What about an enemy that only pops every 21-24 hours? Or one that will randomly pop up instead of the previous one, but only after four days of its previous death? No one wants to lose out and have to start waiting all over again, right? And this is actually a relatively minor example. Even though it may be valid under the denotation of the word, I would hesitate before calling the dungeon in which this enemy resides an "instance". In my option, it should only be called an "instance" if it is designed to counteract this problem by allowing several groups to attempt to complete the same task at the same time.
It can have a great impact on the level of difficulty. If too many groups enter an area and are trying to compete for the same enemies, there will be a large amount of downtime for both groups because all of the foes will be dead. Or, worse, I have seen people actually try to kill off the other group. If two groups are trying to pass through the same area to get to somewhere more interesting, they'll have a far easier time since someone else will be killing some of the enemies.
In my game, FFXI, there's a lot of overhead in trying to level. It sounds pretty basic, but this game pretty much requires a 6 person party a lot of the time. Finding six people to play with you, especially if you play a job that's not in much demand, can be quite difficult. It may be several hours before you get to play. Most random people you pick-up will want to go to one of these de facto leveling spots. These places are, of course, the most crowded. You end up not having enough to do and experience comes in slowly.
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Since Marigold turned up in the comic I've been expecting Jeph to lead her to this epiphany and have her make a subsequent transformation into a social butterfly.
I'm glad he didn't, I like Marigold the way she is.
I agree. She works really well with the other characters the way she is.
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Besides, I was very impressed that Merigold is able to weep.
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I love Marigold the way she is and, thought it's natural for a person/character to change over time, it would be ridiculous for her to change drastically after an outing or two. I really hope she stays much the way she is for a while to come.
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Even more importantly, if there is only ONE copy of a dungeon, one can call it also "instance" or "THE (only) instance".
No, that would be stupid. It's called a non-instanced dungeon.
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Besides, I was very impressed that Merigold is able to weep.
Without putting a hole in the carpet, that is. Pintsize would be jealous if he found out oh who am I kidding, he's probably proud of any "feature" (read: bug) that has destructive capabilities.
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Duh, it's the same feature that allows for the anime sweatdrop effect. See newspost #1440.
(And I think you both mean Momo)
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Momo little teary-eyed face in panel two makes me want to hug her.
...which I suddenly realize is the point of that bit of programming.
Well played.
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I got it! The guild leader must be Pizza Girl. It's so improbable it has to be true.
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Sarah, using WiFi from the allosaurus' innards...
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Revelation: Sven and Marigold are in the same guild.
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That could make for an interesting story arc.
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Mrs. Bianchi is the guild leader.
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And Raven's a 'Secret Member'.
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I think someone should make a poll wo might be the guild leader.
Oh, and the allosaurus is probably the guild's Leeroy.
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Momo frying Marigolds PC, i can 'see' the call to tech support now:
Marigold: "Can you help me, my Chibi Anthro PC used force lightning and fried mt desktop mid raid!"
Tech support: "Whaaaa?..."
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Hey there, ultra-hip, super-insular QC forum cats (and cat-ettes!)!
New kid on the block reporting in.
So: having found the thread where, presumably, I can talk about this week's strips without getting beaten over the head with the Official QC Forum Rulebook, I thought I'd repost something I initially polluted the "Hi! I'm New!" boards with.
I really, totally, unabashedly LOVED the "crying Momo" in the Aug. 21 strip.
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd99/TheKingOfFuzz/supercool.jpg)
Might even be merch-worthy.
Not as merch-worthy as, say, urinal cakes shaped like Pintsize's head, mind you.
It's the un-punctuated "WAAAAAAAAH" the really does it for me.
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Since Marigold turned up in the comic I've been expecting Jeph to lead her to this epiphany and have her make a subsequent transformation into a social butterfly.
I'm glad he didn't, I like Marigold the way she is.
I am also glad. Not everyone likes being a social butterfly (I know I do not). Though I do wonder what Jeph will do with her, I doubt he would have included her in the comic unless she is the catalyst for some sort of change.
That being said, I am just waiting for an awkward Angus/Sven physical confrontation entirely separate from Marigold.
I think she might be an Angus catalyst as per him compaining to Momo about him wishing he was invited out. Marigold may change in the future, but I think right now she's here for a few jokes, but then to push Angus into the group more causing hilarious situations involving his penis.
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...involving his penis.
Come again?
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I love Momo's anime-River-of-Tears. She's got the Big Sweat Drop, the River of Tears. Now we need the Anime style Blush, http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-220275/blushing-in-anime/?pg=9 (http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-220275/blushing-in-anime/?pg=9), and the Face-Fault. Oh, and the Nose-Bleed.
Not sure if I want to see the eels.
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...involving his penis.
Come again?
That's what she said.
Oh I now I need to go shower, I feel awful at having made such a remark.
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I love Momo's anime-River-of-Tears. She's got the Big Sweat Drop, the River of Tears. Now we need the Anime style Blush, http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-220275/blushing-in-anime/?pg=9 (http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-220275/blushing-in-anime/?pg=9), and the Face-Fault. Oh, and the Nose-Bleed.
Not sure if I want to see the eels.
The nose bleed is more of a man thing. It's a symbolic depiction of ejaculation.
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...involving his penis.
Come again?
Oh I now I need to go shower,
That's what she said.
Also, I definitely do NOT want to see the eels.
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this comic has gotten really cute and reminds me of my gaming years, excellent!
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I don't know if you've heard, but there are other games besides WoW that people enjoy playing and the fact that I've only recently begun playing that particular game has nothing to do with geek cred.
The point, sir or madame, was that I was not the only person there in Gnomergan and the first half of Black Fathoms Deep. There were other players and parties there. By the definition you yourself posted that does not qualify as an instance. How then can the terms be interchangeable?
it takes a really long time to level when you've got about 4 playable hours max per day, that's if I wouldn't rather spend that time with my husband watching a movie or something. Gotta have your priorities straight.
Okay...
1: I know there are other games, but we already established (or made the strong assumption) that Marigold has been playing WoW. There's a whole thread on it.
2: I was just pointing out the irony in making a comment about geek cred alongside references to instances that came out 5 years ago.
3: Your original point was that you can do part of a dungeon without having done an instance. I disagree. The dungeon is the instance, and vice versa. If you haven't gone through the portal you're just out the front of the damn place. Anyone who has played a lot of WoW and would like to disagree with me here, go ahead. You don't say "oh hey I did half of Wailing Caverns today" when all you did was clear to the door!
4: I wasn't asking for a defense of why you don't have a lot of play time. If me finding irony in your geek cred statement offended you, I apologize. It was not my intention.
However, in Everquest (the only true MMO,) There are dungeons that are not instances and instances that are not dungeons. Therefore, the words are not interchangeable.
pwned.
Also, it is entirely possible that Momo finished the raid and then got sucked into a regular after-raid group. I would think if she were still raiding she would have said "I want to finish this raid" rather than "instance."
It's different in EQ. In Warcraft there are no dungeons you can run that aren't your own private version. Well, not until the next expansion, at least. Although, now you bring up 'raid'... you could be in a raid group but not in an instance or dungeon. But, now we're just getting into MMO naming semantics... wait, we were already there ._.
You're not actually in an instance until you walk through the swirly patch of corridor.
So there.
Yes, but you aren't really in the dungeon either.
And therefore a dungeon which does not create personal copies of itself for each party (as maddness asserts is the case) cannot be referred to as an instance. Try reading the stuff you are citing.
Hey, hey, hey. I don't know how you got into this, but I'm not sure you're speaking from first-hand experience. Grats on trying to solve the debate anyway, but once more: In Warcraft there are no dungeons which do not create copies for you and your party. There are a handful of dungeons that have a tunnel or somesuch leading to the door but I've never known a Warcraft player in the 5 years I've played who has ever claimed that the junk on the way to the door counts as "the dungeon". Try understanding the stuff you are citing, sir.
If you play WoW though there instances means something specific, i.e. dungeons. But in a different MMO, the same word may mean something else.
Yes, that's all good and well... we are talking about WoW, though. I do understand, for the record, that it means other things in other MMOs.
Now look... I'm sorry if I got anyone upset or grouchy. It's a pretty silly debate in the first place, but I do feel quite confident (in case you can't tell by the above novel) that I know what I'm talking about. I do hate to sound like a complete jerk, but I also hate having 5 people jump on my comment and try to tell me I'm wrong.
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Momo little teary-eyed face in panel two makes me want to hug her.
...which I suddenly realize is the point of that bit of programming.
Well played.
Just so. The Japanese are experts at moe-crafting.
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That being said, I am just waiting for an awkward Angus/Sven physical confrontation entirely separate from Marigold.
Don't say shit like that! Seriously. It will attract Angus/Sven shippers!
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I doubt it.
If there are, it will be more due to you posting than her post.
EDIT: Fixed, sorry Tinkerbell.
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If the next comic has Sven answering the phone with Marigold on the other end, I called it. :3
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That won't happen, its too obvious.
Unless if it's obvious that it won't happen.
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I doubt it.
If there are, it will be more due to you posting than his post.
Oh, shit, you're right! I may have unintentionally invoked Rule 34. :oops:
I'm so very sorry...
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I doubt it.
If there are, it will be more due to you posting than his post.
His?
Besides, I thought there already were shippers. It would be strange if not, I thought there were shippers for pretty much any combination of characters you could think of.
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yeah, there are. rule 34.
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2: I was just pointing out the irony in making a comment about geek cred alongside references to instances that came out 5 years ago.
My comment on her geek cred had nothing to do with WoW, nor does geek cred in general have anything to do with WoW, so why would that be ironic?
3: Your original point was that you can do part of a dungeon without having done an instance. I disagree. The dungeon is the instance, and vice versa. If you haven't gone through the portal you're just out the front of the damn place. Anyone who has played a lot of WoW and would like to disagree with me here, go ahead. You don't say "oh hey I did half of Wailing Caverns today" when all you did was clear to the door!
Just because players have decided that the terms dungeon and instance are interchangeable does not make it factually correct. It's true that you can not clear an entire instance dungeon without going through an instance, but that does not make the entire dungeon an instance. Blizzard defines instances as zones within a dungeon.
... two types of dungeons while playing World of Warcraft: micro dungeons and world dungeons. <cut> Micro dungeon locations will include tombs, haunted mines, ice caves, and sunken ships to name a few. The transition into and out of these dungeons will be seamless, and you'll be able to run into other players anywhere along the way. <cut> World dungeons <cut> are grander in scale than micro dungeons and are specifically designed for more epic encounters. All these locations have common areas where players can meet up and fight together. But, deeper in the dungeons are areas set up specifically for more private group adventures. These areas, called "instanced zones," allow you and a group of friends to have a more personal experience, exploring, adventuring, or completing quests in your own private dungeon.
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The problem is people who parrot the term "instance" without originally knowing what that means, imagining it to refer to dungeons generally, and then going through contortions to justify their usage as the "correct" usage and people correcting them as being somehow wrong.
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Or maybe the problem is that a passing mention of a game in a comic is being taken much too seriously :-P
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I know. My brain tends to get hung up on pointless facts. Sorry, folks. :angel:
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For the record, my post was intended almost entirely as a joke. I thought the "(the only true MMO)" and the "pwned" would make this obvious. I recognize that different games are different (duh.) You didn't upset me, nor did I intend to jump on your post.
Have an afro-smiley. :mrgreen: