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Title: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Surgoshan on 13 Sep 2009, 16:38
Maybe now everyone can stop whinging about minutia.
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: JD on 13 Sep 2009, 16:49
Yes
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Post by: Vendetagainst on 13 Sep 2009, 16:55
Let's hope we don't end up fighting bloody flame wars over the possession of ten feet of thread space.
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Post by: Hat on 13 Sep 2009, 17:21
I don't like Questionable Content
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Post by: Hat on 13 Sep 2009, 17:21
I LOVE IT
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Tyler on 13 Sep 2009, 17:25
I am offended by the lack of enough black characters.
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Post by: Eris on 13 Sep 2009, 17:45
Needs more furries.
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Post by: Kugai on 13 Sep 2009, 21:27
Needs more Klingons
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Post by: ysth on 13 Sep 2009, 21:37
I prefer it when the content is less questionable.
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Post by: raoullefere on 13 Sep 2009, 22:54
Bother that. It's often not Questionable enough.
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Post by: Wiregeek on 14 Sep 2009, 08:15
needs more check boxes.
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: karl gambolputty... on 14 Sep 2009, 10:22
I like it's earlier stuff more than it's new stuff.

Before it totally sold out.

I have Strip #12 on vinyl.
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: pwhodges on 14 Sep 2009, 15:52
Hopefully he's planning a special edition of the first 500 strips in monochrome too.
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Post by: jeph on 14 Sep 2009, 18:27
FUCK questionable content.
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Surgoshan on 14 Sep 2009, 18:41
FUCK questionable content.

Literally?  Because that could take a while.  I mean, we'd have to find stand-ins for the cast, and then I thin we'd be morally obligated to buy condoms....

Please, consider the snakepit you're stepping into and don't ask us to fuck your imagination.  It would take forever
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: jonarus_drakus on 15 Sep 2009, 05:44
FUCK isnt actualy a word, its an acronim
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Post by: maddness on 15 Sep 2009, 06:41
FUCK questionable content.

Literally?  Because that could take a while.  I mean, we'd have to find stand-ins for the cast, and then I thin we'd be morally obligated to buy condoms....

Please, consider the snakepit you're stepping into and don't ask us to fuck your imagination.  It would take forever

Well, if we don't get stand-ins it's totally doable. If you only imaginatively fuck Jeph's imagination there is no need for condoms or messy clean-up afterward. As to taking forever, well, that would just be a mater of who's imagination is bigger ...

Also, as I am married, imaginary fucking could be all I'd be down for.   :|

 :angel:
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: akronnick on 15 Sep 2009, 06:44
FUCK isnt actualy a word, its an acronim

On the contrary, the verb to fuck comes to us from the German ficken (to fuck) with cognates in Dutch (fokken) , Norweigein, (fukka) and Swedish (fokka.)

For unlawful carnal knowledge and Fornication under consent of the King came later, and only work with modern English, which the word fuck certainly predates

and while we're being pedantic, acronym is spelled with a 'y'.
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: plethora on 15 Sep 2009, 07:29
On the contrary, there are many theories about the etymology of fuck but they are all unproven.
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Post by: Surgoshan on 15 Sep 2009, 08:24
It's not an acronym.  It's just a word, with a very, very long history.
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Post by: pwhodges on 15 Sep 2009, 08:36
a word, with a very, very long history.

The OED only dates it from 1568, and another author has a citation from 1528 - so not so very long.
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Surgoshan on 15 Sep 2009, 09:01
Given that it's a bad word, and was banned in print by law for many years, rarity in print isn't surprising.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=fuck

It's at least 300 years older than that, and almost certainly older still in fact.
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: pwhodges on 15 Sep 2009, 09:53
That link quotes similar dates to mine, but then says "but presumably it is a much more ancient word than that" which is by no means certain; other scholars generally agree that the proper name quoted at an earlier date is not linked to the word.  There were other words in use previously which fell out of use as fuck became prevalent. 
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Carl-E on 15 Sep 2009, 16:58
FUCK isnt actualy a word, its an acronim

On the contrary, the verb to fuck comes to us from the German ficken (to fuck) with cognates in Dutch (fokken) , Norweigein, (fukka) and Swedish (fokka.)

I always preferred "Bumpsen" (sp?) from the movie Cabaret...

Ahh, Liza...  and Michael York...  and Joel Gray...

Sorry, I'm back now!
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: akronnick on 15 Sep 2009, 17:24
The OED only dates it from 1568, and another author has a citation from 1528 - so not so very long.

And the Acronym theory can only be traced to the 1960's.
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: jonarus_drakus on 15 Sep 2009, 17:39
Ok, so i stand corrected or something... i guess...


One for the random thoughts file: If Apple were to make a sex-doll they should call it the "Apple iBang".
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Post by: Kugai on 15 Sep 2009, 20:46
Oh frak
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Post by: bicostp on 15 Sep 2009, 20:55
What the fuck is Questionable Content?
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Post by: SGeier on 16 Sep 2009, 11:27
If Apple were to make a sex-doll they should call it the "Apple iBang".

And given that folks keep calling the exclamation point a "bang", this could be written as "the i!", which does have a certain web-two-point-oh feel to it.
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Dliessmgg on 16 Sep 2009, 12:45
No, that's Spanish.
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Post by: raoullefere on 16 Sep 2009, 22:31
Spanish has a certain web-two-point-oh feel to it?
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Post by: maddness on 16 Sep 2009, 23:46
¡I'm pretty sure he meant punctuation! ¿Don't you think?
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Post by: raoullefere on 17 Sep 2009, 09:55
I believe I've posted enough on this forums for you to know the answer to that question, Lady maddness: Yes, but not very well.
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Post by: Kugai on 24 Sep 2009, 20:58
The Vorlons win
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Post by: scarred on 24 Sep 2009, 21:28
Questionable Content would be way better with Kosh

Just like Law and Order
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Post by: Covetous on 25 Sep 2009, 05:13
I'm still hoping for an ending where everyone dies.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 25 Sep 2009, 05:24
Fun to see the site's owner remarks turn into a nice debate on the origin of the word 'fuck'.

'Bumschen' , by the way.
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Carl-E on 25 Sep 2009, 06:04
Fun to see the site's owner remarks turn into a nice debate on the origin of the word 'fuck'.

'Bumschen' , by the way.

Thank you.  Never took German, and it's hard to look up stuff like that.  Ya skazal tolko po Russkie.  And very badly, at that. 
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Heranje on 06 Nov 2009, 00:30
FUCK isnt actualy a word, its an acronim

On the contrary, the verb to fuck comes to us from the German ficken (to fuck) with cognates in Dutch (fokken) , Norweigein, (fukka) and Swedish (fokka.)

For unlawful carnal knowledge and Fornication under consent of the King came later, and only work with modern English, which the word fuck certainly predates

and while we're being pedantic, acronym is spelled with a 'y'.

What ARE you talking about? Fukka is not a Norwegian word. I am Norwegian, I would know. Pretty sure that Swedish word is wrong to, but I wouldn't bet on it. Where you lot would say "fuck", we use the swearword "faen" or "faen ta", derived from an old word for Satan. Some people also use the loanword "fuck", with the English pronunciation.
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Dliessmgg on 06 Nov 2009, 01:58
Fun to see the site's owner remarks turn into a nice debate on the origin of the word 'fuck'.

'Bumschen' , by the way.

It's bumsen. No caps and no ch. A Bumschen would porbably be a small fuck. (The noun, not the verb.)
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: raoullefere on 06 Nov 2009, 07:05
FUCK isnt actualy a word, its an acronim

On the contrary, the verb to fuck comes to us from the German ficken (to fuck) with cognates in Dutch (fokken) , Norweigein, (fukka) and Swedish (fokka.)

For unlawful carnal knowledge and Fornication under consent of the King came later, and only work with modern English, which the word fuck certainly predates

and while we're being pedantic, acronym is spelled with a 'y'.

What ARE you talking about? Fukka is not a Norwegian word. I am Norwegian, I would know. Pretty sure that Swedish word is wrong to, but I wouldn't bet on it. Where you lot would say "fuck", we use the swearword "faen" or "faen ta", derived from an old word for Satan. Some people also use the loanword "fuck", with the English pronunciation.
Sigh. How many times must it be said: nobody, I mean nobody, (according to the last edition of the OED, this still stands) really knows where fuck came from. Actually, Heranje, English had a fair bit of Scandinavian rammed down its throat by Cnut the Great et. al., but no one has managed to tie fuck to that, either. Clearly someone should build a wayback machine to try to work this out, but no one has fucking time, nor the right set of priorities.
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Heranje on 06 Nov 2009, 11:15
...I was not trying to say where fuck comes from. I was simply telling akronnick that fukka is not a Norwegian word, nor is anything resembling it. And I'm aware that English has a lot of loanwords from the scandinavian languages. In fact, old viking accounts of trips to England said plainly "they speak norse there". Which they probably didn't, but it was close enough that the English could speak their language and the vikings could speak their language and they both understood.

Also, hello Jeans! :) It's always fun to find Norwegians on the old interwebs. xD We are few and far between.
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Post by: Watched Pot on 06 Nov 2009, 12:16
Also, hello Jeans! :) It's always fun to find Norwegians on the old interwebs. xD We are few and far between.
I am not Norwegian but I did live in Trondheim for a few months. It is a great country.
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Carl-E on 06 Nov 2009, 12:17
...We are few and far between.

Except, of course, in Norway. 

But even there, you're not very dense!
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Surgoshan on 06 Nov 2009, 13:55
...I was not trying to say where fuck comes from. I was simply telling akronnick that fukka is not a Norwegian word, nor is anything resembling it.

Then you might want to edit the wikipedia page on fuck.
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Patrick on 06 Nov 2009, 14:05
Just because "fukka" is not in Bokmål or Nynorsk doesn't mean it wasn't in an archaic Norwegian dialect. There's plenty of archaic words in the English language alone that nobody would recognize unless they were a linguist or somesuch. Considering that Norwegian has two standard written forms, and that they're both pretty much compiled of the older dialects from the 19th century and before, a lot of the vocabulary of the older dialects would've necessarily been made obsolete. So while you may be right that it's not a modern Norwegian word, I don't see why that rules out Norway as a possible origin for the English word.
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Heranje on 06 Nov 2009, 14:51
I am not Norwegian but I did live in Trondheim for a few months. It is a great country.

It is very pleasant. :) I haven't been to Trondheim, but I have friends who study there. I've heard it's nice!

...We are few and far between.

Except, of course, in Norway. 

But even there, you're not very dense!

Nope! 4,5 million people in a country that, if you flipped it around, would cross all of Europe and end in Italy. :P We like our space.

Then you might want to edit the wikipedia page on fuck.
Eh, no. I don't have any actual sources, just a native's knowledge of the language (as it currently is). Plus, editing wikipedia pages is intimidating - it's basically the same as claiming I know the truth.

Just because "fukka" is not in Bokmål or Nynorsk doesn't mean it wasn't in an archaic Norwegian dialect. There's plenty of archaic words in the English language alone that nobody would recognize unless they were a linguist or somesuch. Considering that Norwegian has two standard written forms, and that they're both pretty much compiled of the older dialects from the 19th century and before, a lot of the vocabulary of the older dialects would've necessarily been made obsolete. So while you may be right that it's not a modern Norwegian word, I don't see why that rules out Norway as a possible origin for the English word.
That is a good point. :) I was mainly reacting to the way akronnick made it sound like it was a current Norwegian word, and thought "Hey, this is something I know things about! I must correct this FATAL ERROR!" I will admit that I'm not an expert on the ancient language, though, so it sounds perfectly plausible that it could have come from there. Suppose I should have considered that, or at least made more clear what I was correcting.
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Binary on 06 Nov 2009, 14:52
Then you might want to edit the wikipedia page on fuck.

Best of luck with that.
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Post by: All_¥our_Bass on 06 Nov 2009, 22:04
It needs more desu.
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Post by: raoullefere on 08 Nov 2009, 01:47
In fact, old viking accounts of trips to England said plainly "they speak norse there". .

Cynical me wonders if that was before or after the rovers put the smackdown on the locals.

I.E. They speak Norse there…now.

Actually, I suppose it depends on how close to Old Frisian, the closest language to Anglo-Saxon, Norse is. I know they're from the same general family (Germanic?), but that's about it.

About fuck: sometimes I wonder if a time traveler did go back and, at last, frustrated, told a local, "I'm trying to find where the fuck this word comes from...oops."
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Nov 2009, 19:13
Proof yet again that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing! 

OK, maybe not dangerous.  Just a bit annoying. 
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Heliphyneau on 10 Nov 2009, 10:13
Translation from Wikipedia: We don't know; no one really remembers -- fuck it.

Hmm, if we fuck Questionable Content, will it make a squeaky noise?  Like rubbing a balloon . . .

>_>
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: syrupykeyboard on 10 Nov 2009, 10:37
Translation from Wikipedia: We don't know; no one really remembers -- fuck it.

Hmm, if we fuck Questionable Content, will it make a squeaky noise?  Like rubbing a balloon . . .

>_>
Please do not bring latex into this equation.
Title: Re: The Poll to End All Polls
Post by: Kugai on 10 Nov 2009, 21:57
Looks like the Vorlons win