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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: StaedlerMars on 17 Nov 2009, 12:06
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8363726.stm
really?
Really?
Guys, we definitely did a better job than NME.
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Is This It is a pretty good album that's way overrated, but UK critics love overrating stuff from the UK, especially if it influenced British mainstream. The Strokes happened to come up at a time where the UK critics got tired of overrating Oasis and needed another above average UK pop rock band to fill the void.
Acclaimedmusic.net, a site that combines all different critics lists, has Funeral #1, Is This It #2, Kid A #3.
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The strokes are from the US, I'm not sure what you're on about.
I don't think I would include any of those albums, but, if I had been asked "what albums would the NME choose?", I would certainly have gone for a few of those.
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Isn't the NME nothing but a bunch of jokes?
AHHHH C'MON FUCK THE STROKES
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You guys are missing the big picture here: They had Original Pirate Music in their top 10.
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Isn't the NME nothing but a bunch of jokes?
AHHHH C'MON FUCK THE STROKES
This is a better line than anything that exists in the song you are spoofing. Consider making a recording of your raps.
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Yeah, the Strokes are American.
But he does raise a valid point. This country seems to be obsessed with their style of music, and I'm sure lots of bands that are big now here are influenced by Is This It. That and the Libertines, which can be seen from the fact that their album was voted second. Once again, really?
The article mentions that bands like Radiohead voted, I would be much more interested in finding out what their choices would have been.
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Seeing as how both bands mentioned are in the top 10 themselves, I can only assume who they voted for.
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Elvis Costello in the NME,
David Bowie in the NME...
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Acclaimedmusic.net, a site that combines all different critics lists, has Funeral #1
Oh fuck off.
I approve of the top-ten placement of Radiohead's In Rainbows, mind. I think that actually is their best album. I'll waffle on about why some other time when I can be arsed.
I also approve of such a high placing for At The Drive-In.
But at the end of the day, NME can eat a dick. They are trend-following scene whores without an idea between them. I'm aiming to be a music journalist and I've said to my family they have the right to shoot me if I ever write for NME.
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Guys, it's 2009, why do we care what NME thinks? They haven't been relevant for at least thirty years.
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Guys, it's 2009, why do we care what NME thinks? They haven't been relevant for at least thirty years.
Exactly.
I mean, I don't know what people were expecting.
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I for one was expecting The Arctic Monkeys to win.
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On the plus side, think how apt the number one album's title is now.
That, Tommy, is the most perfect thing one could say in this thread. Bravo.
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Guys, this is a decade in which Boris dropped like 26 amazing albums, and we're talking about Radiohead and the Stokes?
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only 26?
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shane that is over two albums a year.
i am sorry that is too many albums for me to care about. plus they play drone.
drone
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If you think that Boris is only about the drone, then you must not have listened to them enough.
Also, with Boris, there's no such thing as too much.
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shane that is over two albums a year.
i am sorry that is too many albums for me to care about
Given singles and collabs, It's honestly around 35 in this decade. Holy shitfucks.
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You guys are missing the big picture here: They had Original Pirate Music in their top 10.
I hope that wasn't meant as bad thing >_>
That'd be in my top 10 as well, it's The Streets best album.
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If you think that Boris is only about the drone, then you must not have listened to them enough.
i am sorry that is too many albums for me to care about.
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That's silly! It's not hard to know which records are drone and which aren't. And just because there are lots of albums doesn't mean you have to care about all of them. Like, Iggy Pop has a bunch of albums, but it's pretty common practice to only care about 2 of them.
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You guys are missing the big picture here: They had Original Pirate Music in their top 10.
I hope that wasn't meant as bad thing >_>
That'd be in my top 10 as well, it's The Streets best album.
There are more than 9 artists/bands better than The Streets, though.
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That's silly! It's not hard to know which records are drone and which aren't. And just because there are lots of albums doesn't mean you have to care about all of them. Like, Iggy Pop has a bunch of albums, but it's pretty common practice to only care about 2 of them.
Yeah, but I for one get pretty annoyed when people haven't at least given an artist's canon a chance. I wouldn't call myself an Iggy Pop fan based on the one album I've heard. I'd call myself a Stooges fan because I've heard three of the four albums they've made, which is at least a majority. If I only liked a couple of his albums, having only heard those, I'd call myself a fan of those albums rather than the artist.
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i am sorry that is too many albums for me to care about.
If you don't like the drone, then just listen to Heavy fucking Rocks.
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You guys are missing the big picture here: They had Original Pirate Music in their top 10.
I hope that wasn't meant as bad thing >_>
That'd be in my top 10 as well, it's The Streets best album.
There are more than 9 artists/bands better than The Streets, though.
Yes there are, I'd rather force screwdrivers into my ears than listen to The Streets new stuff.
On it's individual merit, I would have Original Pirate Material in my top 10. I like an awful lot of bands but for me personally that album never gets old.
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If you don't like the drone, then just listen to Heavy fucking Rocks.
Quoted for Heavy Rocks \m/
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Remember to always use Heavy Cement with your Heavy Rocks.
This message bought to you by the British Heavy Cement, Hardcore and Heavy Rock board.
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Quoted for Heavy Rocks \m/
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Seriously, Sean, I will throw this up on the mf thread if you promise to listen to it. This is the album that will convince you that Boris isn't just about drone.
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Thirding Heavy Rocks. Shit will make a believer out of you.
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Thou shalt not read NME.
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Guys, it's 2009, why do we care what NME thinks? They haven't been relevant for at least thirty years.
Precisely. This is, after all, the magazine that considers Beth Ditto worthwhile.
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i am sorry that is too many albums for me to care about.
If you don't like the drone, then just listen to Heavy fucking Rocks.
Hell, just listen to "1970", nevermind the whole album.
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i am sorry that is too many albums for me to care about.
If you don't like the drone, then just listen to Heavy fucking Rocks.
Hell, just listen to "1970", nevermind the whole album.
Forthed/Fifthed. Do it. I met Beth Ditto once, she was lovely. She hit on me.
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Speaking of the strokes...
http://pitchfork.com/news/37230-strokes-announce-return-to-the-stage/
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Guys, "Jane Doe."
Just sayin'..
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other than the bizarre placing of "is this it" at #1, i actually liked more albums on nme's list than on pitchfork's, i think. i'm sure this makes me a horrible person but eh.
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Yeah it's from Vice, but it's also pretty true & quite funny:
As 2009 slams the brakes on, editors the breadth of the land put their feet up on the desk and just serve you some reconstituted yesterdays: top 10/20/30/50/100 countdowns of stuff that happened over the past twelve months. But as you grind your way through one end-of-year music supplement banging on about Animal Collective and Girls after another, your eyes go oblong and there’s a sense of intense, giddying deja vu. Haven’t we seen it all before? In every other magazine/paper/webzine/cereal box? Like, every year? Forever?
Slice through the crap: this is The Only Top 35 Albums of the Year Countdown You’ll Ever Need.
Number 35: Bonkers novelty rap collective. Shows staff have sense of humour.
Number 34: Reserved for Britpop “survivors” who’ve made “their best album in years”.
Number 33: Wacky side-project of big-name band singer, which is a wacky electro-pop concept album about magic animals.
Number 32: Something from Iceland.
Number 31: The name that keeps turning up on every electro/house compilation CD released that year. e.g. Simian Mobile Disco in ‘07.
Number 30: Real authentic alt. country dude who made the album in a cave in the Appalachians/once dated Joanna Newsom.
Number 29: Return of once-derided old-timer who used to symbolise naffness, but has subverted expectations by making an album of honest, brooding ballads with a hip young producer.
Number 28: This space is reserved for Bruce Springsteen if he makes an album in the year of the list.
Number 27: Some dubstep record which actually came out last year but has roundly been heralded as “the sound of the future”.
Number 26: Disappointing third album from previously much-touted act, which is so bad that editorial embarrassment means it’s been crowbarred in here as a Pravda-style exercise in shrinking them slowly rather than dropping them like a hot brick, as would be most appropriate.
Number 25: The band that everyone was tipping as the year’s biggest act in January.
Number 24: You’ve never even heard of this one. You never will. Even as your read the blurb, you find your mind simultaneously erasing the entry.
Number 23: Glitchy and worthy and difficult record you’ve listened to once. Squarepusher, basically.
Number 21: British Sea Power.
Number 20: Token world muso.
Number 19: The band who’ve got a reputation for being “influential”, and have a geographically specific “scene” organised around them that they put on semi-mythical “parties” for at a semi-mythical “venue”. e.g. HEALTH and The Smell.
Number 18: Band who wrote album of songs inspired by the tragic accidental/drug death of their bass player last year. Somewhere the blurb says “courageous”.
Number 17: Fever Ray.
Number 16: Sexy pop act masquerading as “wonky-pop”/”nu-pop”/”underground pop”, which only barely disguises the fact that they’re Lulu with alt. dress sense.
Number 16: Put in a “stunning” performance on Jools Holland.
Number 15: DJ who made “the year’s party-starting mash-up compilation” that you’ve never actually heard at a party that wasn’t put on by media insiders. And never made any of those party-goers do more than pout extra aggressively.
Number 14: Dirty Projectors.
Number 13: Hyper-obscure album everyone was bamboozled into voting for ‘cos Pitchfork gave it a 9.9, despite sounding like every other folk album ever.
Number 12: Rapper facing child sex charges.
Number 11: Dizzee/Chipmunk (pop-grime slot shared on a rotational basis).
Number 10: Album described as a “groundbreaking fusion of dance and rock”.
Number 9: Tape of Bob Dylan coughing up some phlegm in June 1972, found in someone’s attic, dusted off, reissued, and hagiographised in the Sunday papers as a heartbreaking work of staggering genius.
Numbers 8-2: Records that were OK, but no one was mad about them, but no one disliked them much either, so they swum through the middle course, whereas intense records that some people were truly passionate about but others really hated all ultimately failed to make the cut.
Number 1: Coldplay (Q), Arctic Monkeys (NME), Sven Vath (Mixmag), Neil Young (Uncut), Neil Young (Mojo), Neil Young (Classic Rock), Neil Young (Home & Garden), people humming transcendentally over distorted tape loops of concrete being laid (Wire).
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Oh god, that was sheer genius, and completely on point. I need to read Vice
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Yeah it's from Vice, but it's also pretty true & quite funny:
people humming transcendentally over distorted tape loops of concrete being laid (Wire).
I still can't figure out how or why people actually enjoy Animal Collective.
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They can make really good pop songs, when they put their mind to it.
They usually don't.
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MPP has exactly two songs on it that i like. But i like them a fucking lot. ALOT.
everything else i've ever heard from AC has been pretty shitty.
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I really like Grass.
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You are on the marijuana?
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Oh god, that was sheer genius, and completely on point. I need to read Vice
Most of the time no. It's just awful, that's a rare little gem. I promise.
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Yeah nobody needs to read Vice.
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Except like, maybe the editor of Vice.
They probably need to read it.
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They do throw good parties & sometimes have really nice gig photogphy. I know people that work from them & I still agree with Khar. That can't be good.
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Except like, maybe the editor of Vice.
They probably need to read it.
Only if you hold to the contention that Vice needs to exist.
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Vice isn't just bad. It's genuinely reprehensible.
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Taken out of context that is an awesome quote.
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You know me, as puritan as the day is long.
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If you absolutely must just go to the Vice website and file through the Do's & Don'ts, have a shuftie through the "most emailed"/"most popular" list, go through the fashion section for some alt-porn masquerading as art that would make Dov Charney blush, jack it, fall asleep, and then never go back again. Good for about an hour's entertainment.
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Guys guess what!
I'm going to fill in Vice's joke list from the last page. Feel free to put in albums I've missed/couldn't think of.
Number 35: Bonkers novelty rap collective. Shows staff have sense of humour.
35. Ummmmmmmmmmm........ Brokencyde.
Number 34: Reserved for Britpop “survivors” who’ve made “their best album in years”.
Number 33: Wacky side-project of big-name band singer, which is a wacky electro-pop concept album about magic animals.
33. That dude from Interpol put out an album this year, right? Close enough.
Number 32: Something from Iceland.
32. Olafur Arnalds - Found Songs
Number 31: The name that keeps turning up on every electro/house compilation CD released that year. e.g. Simian Mobile Disco in ‘07.
Number 30: Real authentic alt. country dude who made the album in a cave in the Appalachians/once dated Joanna Newsom.
30. Mountain Man - S/T
(okay, they are not dudes)
Number 29: Return of once-derided old-timer who used to symbolise naffness, but has subverted expectations by making an album of honest, brooding ballads with a hip young producer.
29. Morrissey....oh wait, was that a compliation album, though?
Number 28: This space is reserved for Bruce Springsteen if he makes an album in the year of the list.
28. *ticks box*
Number 27: Some dubstep record which actually came out last year but has roundly been heralded as “the sound of the future”.
Number 26: Disappointing third album from previously much-touted act, which is so bad that editorial embarrassment means it’s been crowbarred in here as a Pravda-style exercise in shrinking them slowly rather than dropping them like a hot brick, as would be most appropriate.
26. Bloc Party.
Number 25: The band that everyone was tipping as the year’s biggest act in January.
25. Future of The Left - Travels With Myself and Another
Number 24: You’ve never even heard of this one. You never will. Even as your read the blurb, you find your mind simultaneously erasing the entry.
24. Princeton - Cocoon Of Love
Number 23: Glitchy and worthy and difficult record you’ve listened to once. Squarepusher, basically.
23. What was that Lightning Bolt record called?
Number 21: British Sea Power.
21. British Sea Power - Man of Aran
Number 20: Token world muso.
20. Ai Aso - Aida
Number 19: The band who’ve got a reputation for being “influential”, and have a geographically specific “scene” organised around them that they put on semi-mythical “parties” for at a semi-mythical “venue”. e.g. HEALTH and The Smell.
19. Wavves - Wavvves
Number 18: Band who wrote album of songs inspired by the tragic accidental/drug death of their bass player last year. Somewhere the blurb says “courageous”.
Number 17: Fever Ray.
17. Fever Ray - s/t
Number 16: Sexy pop act masquerading as “wonky-pop”/”nu-pop”/”underground pop”, which only barely disguises the fact that they’re Lulu with alt. dress sense.
16. Lady Gaga
Number 16: Put in a “stunning” performance on Jools Holland.
We only get repeats of Jools Holland here. But I did see an episode that made me check out Seasick Steve.
16. Seasick Steve - Man From Another Time
(there are two #16s..)
Number 15: DJ who made “the year’s party-starting mash-up compilation” that you’ve never actually heard at a party that wasn’t put on by media insiders. And never made any of those party-goers do more than pout extra aggressively.
Number 14: Dirty Projectors.
Number 13: Hyper-obscure album everyone was bamboozled into voting for ‘cos Pitchfork gave it a 9.9, despite sounding like every other folk album ever.
13. Girls - Album
Number 12: Rapper facing child sex charges.
Number 11: Dizzee/Chipmunk (pop-grime slot shared on a rotational basis).
Number 10: Album described as a “groundbreaking fusion of dance and rock”.
10. Passion Pit - Manners
Number 9: Tape of Bob Dylan coughing up some phlegm in June 1972, found in someone’s attic, dusted off, reissued, and hagiographised in the Sunday papers as a heartbreaking work of staggering genius.
9. Dylan's Christmas album!
Numbers 8-2: Records that were OK, but no one was mad about them, but no one disliked them much either, so they swum through the middle course, whereas intense records that some people were truly passionate about but others really hated all ultimately failed to make the cut.
8. Dinosaur Jr. - Farm
7. Wilco - Wilco (The Album)
6. Royksopp - Junior
5. Mountain Goats - The Life Of The World To Come
4. Eels - Hombre Lobo
3. Decemberists - The Hazards Of Love
2. Black Moth Super Rainbow - Eating Us
Number 1: people humming transcendentally over distorted tape loops of concrete being laid (Wire).
1. Animal Collective - Meriweather Post Pavilion
If you make the second #16 into #15 and adjust accordingly, it becomes 0, though. Off the list, BECAUSE IT IS A TERRIBLE FUCKING RECORD.
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Just to prove how redundant NME is, let's have a look at their edgy cover star, who clearly champions underground, independent or exciting new music:
(http://www.nme.com/layout/magImage.php)
Right.
http://www.nme.com/news/joe-mcelderry/48880 (http://www.nme.com/news/joe-mcelderry/48880)
Quite interesting what Cowell has to say though.
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Hopefully he will point out the irony of the dunderheaded attempt to get Sony Music Recording Artists Rage Against the Machine to number one for Xmas instead if whatever reality TV show winner who probably deserves it more just for not attempting to be anything other than what they are.
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more importantly, dave grohl is ragetastic!
http://www.nme.com/news/rage-against-the-machine/48926
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You know me, as puritan as the day is long.
You know, the days are pretty short here...
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Numbers 8-2: Records that were OK, but no one was mad about them
5. Mountain Goats - The Life Of The World To Come
No.
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Jens has no say, as his ears think Deerhoof is good. I don't know what your excuse is, though.
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Wait, I thought Jens liked Mountain Goats?
However, I would agree with that album because, in my opinion, it is one of Darnielle's poorer efforts.
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reed i just read this thread for the first time in days.
if you up heavy rocks i will spin it.
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Of course you tell me this while I'm still at work.
I should have some time when I get home to throw it up in the mf thread.
Upped:
http://www.mediafire.com/?w4mezxywmmz
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Wait, I thought Jens liked Mountain Goats?
His post is ambiguous - the post to which he was replying promotes two arguments:
1) that the Mountain Goats' album is OK; but also
2) that no-one was mad about it.
Is Jens saying "No" to the first point, or to the second? That is, does Jens think that the album is not OK, or does he like it so much that he is "mad about it"?
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For me, it was that I think that album is great, not just decent enough not to be mad about.
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I find it a bit boring.
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Vice... They do throw good parties
Not last time! (http://titusandronicustheband.blogspot.com/2009/11/vice-halloween-party-is-decadent-and.html)
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Life of the World to Come is pretty unremarkable, dudes.
"I think that maybe what's happening now with the Rage Against The Machine thing, is people are really craving the warts and all," Grohl explained. "And that song is just an incredible song, and it's meaningful. Maybe they're craving something that actually means something?"
SOME OF THOSE THAT WORK FORCES
ARE THE SAME THAT BURN CROSSES
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Are you saying that it's not very meaningful because its commentary on the racism entrenched in law enforcement is overly superficial and hamfisted?
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yeah pretty much
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Well, that's true.
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good talk
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Talking about racism in music (and elsewhere, obv.) is good and important though! It is too bad that it is not a song by Mos Def or PE that is randomly at the center of attention.
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What if I say to you, "Dovey, don't even bother trying to have a conversation about racism and music on the internet."
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I'm just overly hostile towards that song because my countrymen declared it The Second Best Song Of All Time. Of All Time (http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hottest100_alltime/countdown/cd_02.htm).
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MOTHERFUCKKERRRRR
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Ooof, sorry about that. Man, I started going through that list, and I think it actually makes perfect sense. The larger the scale, the further taste development becomes arrested. The musical tastes of your entire country are basically equivalent to what a kind of cool 14 yr old white boy might have listened to circa 2002 (by general feel, excepting the occasional anachronism).
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Actually I'm pretty proud of the list outside of the Top 15, where it makes a fairly sharp veer into cliché country
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what a kind of cool 14 yr old white boy might have listened to circa 2002 (by general feel, excepting the occasional anachronism).
That's a pretty good description of triple J.
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Vice... They do throw good parties
Not last time! (http://titusandronicustheband.blogspot.com/2009/11/vice-halloween-party-is-decadent-and.html)
That party doesn't sound so bad...Security can suck...Also I've only been to English ones.