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I did a search and checked through the last few pages. Nothing has been said about this film for at least 5 months and it comes out pretty soon. Thought I'd ask if anyone is as excited about this film as I am?
Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS02xaTIdRI)
I remember reading a while ago (when this film was just announced) that certain films go in and out of fashion in accordance with how well the world economy is going. For instance when things are going well, vampire films tend to be the go as vampires are usually aristocratic fops whereas when the economy is not as great the market opens up for werewolf movies as they tend to have a more "lower-class" feel. Werewolves are usually "everymen" that you can relate to more than a rich, vampire aristo. Interested to see how it goes with Del Toro playing a rich werewolf.
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I am going to see this, probably on opening night, due to nothing more than Benicio Del Toro.
It looks decent....but I have an extreme amount of respect for Del Toro and I believe he will probably make this movie awesome.
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It used to be a Mark Romanek joint. He and some old creature feature dude who kinda looks like Donald Sutherland were going to make a no-CGI horror film. Then the studio stepped in, it became something like 100% CGI, Romanek dropped out and Other Donald Sutherland pretty much openly hates the film. I think Brett Ratner was attached at some point, I'm not sure he still is.
Anyway yeah, this movie is going to be straight up Ass.
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What the hell has happened to Anthony Hopkins's face?!
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I tried to get excited about this but it looks like poop.
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What the hell has happened to Anthony Hopkins's face?!
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FACE?
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No seriously though. It's like he ran out of money half-way through a Botox session and they just kicked him out on the street.
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WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FACE?
NOT SO FUN NOW IS IT
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For instance when things are going well, vampire films tend to be the go as vampires are usually aristocratic fops
Then how come the world economy is in the toilet and yet people are still dropping their shit over vampires. Just can't win, motherfucker.
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Vampires are also popular in times of repression of the sexual kind, given the barely veiled sexual nature of vamps and yadda yadda yadda. Maybe that has something to do with it.
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I dunno man, as I understand it that with equal marriage rights in some isolated corners of the world we'll all be fucking horses soon.
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Not in the Netherlands (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/03/2808870.htm?section=world), though.
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The internet will potentially lose one of its main sources of bestiality videos under a ban approved by the upper house of the Dutch Parliament.
nooooooo
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo
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For instance when things are going well, vampire films tend to be the go as vampires are usually aristocratic fops
Then how come the world economy is in the toilet and yet people are still dropping their shit over vampires. Just can't win, motherfucker.
I was hoping someone would raise that point as it does pretty much throw a spanner in those works. When I read that article it was when this film was just announced and the economy was starting to plunge and if I remember correctly (I may not) then I don't think Twilight had gotten as retardedly popular by that point. Though KVP makes an interesting point about sexual freedom. Vampires were huge in the 1800s or whatever, not the most liberated time. Makes sense that in an age where kids are being taught abstinence-only sex ed and girls are being railroaded into signing celibacy contracts with their dads (which is stupid by the way) that people would go nuts over crappy vampires that just want to hold hands.
Fuck I really didn't want this to turn into another Twilight-Hate thing but fuck I guess it was inevitable.
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You're right, we shouldn't be getting distracted by how shit Twilight is when we haven't fully investigated how shit The Wolfman is going to be.
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I'm still going to see it. It looks fun. Doesn't look good, but it looks fun.
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I will be watching this film. The cast is all pretty stellar and I'd watch Emily Blunt in almost any old movie. I think it will be okay, probably not amazing, but good and fun. Unfortunately BECAUSE it's been heavily advertised and has a pretty impessive cast, if it isn't spectacular, people are going to paint it as the worst film of all time.
But for all I know it really will be the worst movie of all time, but I doubt it. I suppose I'll find out soon enough.
That's an interesting theory about the appeal of the werewolf based on economic times. I'm a bit curious to look further into that. Werewolves are definitely more of an everyman's monster, but for reasons besides wealth.
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I was interested in this film until I saw the trailer. It was just a few months ago and I can't remember it anymore but it just sucked all the excitement I had for the film away. I'm curious to see what the reviews have to say about it.
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For instance when things are going well, vampire films tend to be the go as vampires are usually aristocratic fops
Then how come the world economy is in the toilet and yet people are still dropping their shit over vampires. Just can't win, motherfucker.
There are werewolves in Twilight. (motherfucker)
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And that negates my point how
motherfucker
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It doesn't, it throws the whole theory oven more out the window.(motherfucker)
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You guys are such Debbie Downers. Benicio del Toro is reason enough to see this movie, and it looks like it could be fun! Fun. Besides, trailers are nothing to go off of, especially with these kinds of movies where it's got such heavy marketing, trying to attract the broadest audience possible, that they'll cut a 90 second trailer that is absolutely meaningless. Don't be so sullen, moviegoers!
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Benicio del Toro is reason enough to see this movie
Brett Ratner was attached at some point
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Yeah, but he's not the director of the final cut so I doubt that makes a difference. He was attached to Superman Returns, and while that movie wasn't fantastic in anyway, Brian Singer pretty much erased any trace of Ratner's hand in it. Making it at least 3 times better than it could have been.
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I am seeing this movie at a special free screening for students on wednesday yay!
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I thought Ratner was one of the people they were looking at to direct it after the first guy dropped it but the studio decided on someone else. Isn't that what happened?
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For instance when things are going well, vampire films tend to be the go as vampires are usually aristocratic fops
Then how come the world economy is in the toilet and yet people are still dropping their shit over vampires. Just can't win, motherfucker.
There are werewolves in Twilight. (motherfucker)
Actually no there aren't. They're not influenced by the moon. Mother, um, fornicater.
I had seen the trailer and I like the cast and I really want to see this. It's been a long time since there was a werewolf movie and I want to see how this turns out.
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(http://www.harkavagrant.com/nonsense/wolfman9panel.png)
Did someone say Wolfman?
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(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6239/wolfman.png)
He can howl at my full moon anytime.
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For instance when things are going well, vampire films tend to be the go as vampires are usually aristocratic fops
Then how come the world economy is in the toilet and yet people are still dropping their shit over vampires. Just can't win, motherfucker.
There are werewolves in Twilight. (motherfucker)
Actually no there aren't. They're not influenced by the moon. Mother, um, fornicater.
I had seen the trailer and I like the cast and I really want to see this. It's been a long time since there was a werewolf movie and I want to see how this turns out.
Manboys who turn into wolves aren't werewolves?
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They are Shapeshifters. They can change willingly (once they get control of those pesky emotions), unlike werewolves, who change at the full moon no matter what.
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I love how we're talking about Twilight in The Wolfman thread when there's already another Twilight thread.
Anyways. I was trying to look up some more monster movies and basically all I can come up with are tons and tons and tons of vampire films and very little of anything else. It makes me sad that there are so many things to do with vampires but so very little done with werewolves. The fact that a Wolfman movie is being made makes me a little happy, and you know what, Benicio Del Toro is pretty good, usually..so my hopes for this movie are starting to grow a little bit.
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I saw a trailer for this when i saw New Moon and was fairly amusing. I hope they made a new one because the one I saw told pretty much all the story, hell it was even ordered chronologically.
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That's pretty much the trend with modern trailers. I've seen more than one trailer in recent years which has revealed the mid- or late-film death of a significant character, for instance.
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I'm gonna see this on Sunday after my band breaks up or whatever. Should be cathartic.
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That's pretty much the trend with modern trailers. I've seen more than one trailer in recent years which has revealed the mid- or late-film death of a significant character, for instance.
Yeah but this was essentially an abbreviated version of the movie.
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Just got back from seeing it.
Dear god was that a bad choice. Del Toro seemed as flat as his monotone voice, Anthony Hopkins felt hamstrung by a bad screenplay, and the only character I actually sort of enjoyed watching was Hugo Weaving's Scotland Yard inspector.
Also, the movie needed to take a page from Batman Begins: if everyone knows your basic mythos, then by god you do it with class, style, and sheer badassery. What you do is you ramp the goddamn Batman up to the goddamn ninja Batman. You do not fast forward through 3/4ths of the movie on the basic assumption that people already know it. It keeps the tension/seriousness from building and results in the funniest moment in the movie being (at least in my theater) a man trying to commit suicide.
Granted, the ending was fun in a cheesy monster movie sort of way, but it didn't redeem the rest of the movie. Out of 10, I'd give it a 3 on a good day.
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I saw it today. It's rather bland, which is sad, because I really like Del Toro, Hopkins, Weaving, and Blunt. If they couldn't have made the plot better, then they should have made it a B movie. It's not completely terrible, it was just boring.
Meh. Shutter Island comes out next weekend and maybe that will satisfy my hunger for a decent creepy movie.
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Uhhhhh Hopkins was hamstrung? Maybe you've never watched a movie in your life because otherwise you could see that he was phoning it in to the point where I suspect that references to his character being distant were the result of a rewrite midway through or possibly even after his involvement in the filming was completed. Del Toro and Hugo Weaving were clearly having a blast, but this was a movie with a vengeful hate-on for its audience. It might even hate us as much as it hates its stars.
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Had the option of seeing it today but decided to pass, girlfriend and I decided to watch Dr. No and 2/3 of Goldeneye together (poor girl has only ever seen Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace). It seems like I made the right choice, looks like I'll just download it when it comes out as a rip.
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Uhhhhh Hopkins was hamstrung? Maybe you've never watched a movie in your life because otherwise you could see that he was phoning it in to the point where I suspect that references to his character being distant were the result of a rewrite midway through or possibly even after his involvement in the filming was completed.
Yeah, but in his defence he did actually announce his retirement from acting several years ago. It's not his fault if we all assumed that meant he was going to stop appearing in films, too.
Meh. Shutter Island comes out next weekend and maybe that will satisfy my hunger for a decent creepy movie.
Literally the only thing I know about that movie is that it's got Leonardo Di Caprio in it. There's a poster for it ("Coming soon") at my local cinema, and walking past it I noticed the tag-line:
"Someone is missing."
They're not even trying any more.
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Shutter Island is actually Scorcese's new thing
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and it looks fantastic
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I heard someone goes missing in it.
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Spoilers!
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This movie was awesome but it coulda used a couple more decapitations, probably.
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shutter island will only be good if leo winds up dead at the end of the movie
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Hugo Weaving w[as] clearly having a blast
And that was the one enjoyable part of the movie.
About Hopkins: I was being extremely charitable.
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Hopkins owes you a tax receipt, I think.
This movie was awesome but it coulda used a couple more decapitations, probably.
The violence was smeared on like cheap margarine to kind of make the burnt-toast plot easier to swallow. Just like the rest of the film it mostly seemed like an excuse to throw money at an effects budget.
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This movie was awesome but it coulda used a couple more decapitations, probably.
I'm praying that you were trying to be ironic and/or sarcastic.
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I'm looking forward to Shutter Island.
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I'm also looking forward to Shutter Island. The book was a fun read.
But then, I also didn't hate everything about The Wolfman.
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Hopkins owes you a tax receipt, I think.
This movie was awesome but it coulda used a couple more decapitations, probably.
The violence was smeared on like cheap margarine to kind of make the burnt-toast plot easier to swallow. Just like the rest of the film it mostly seemed like an excuse to throw money at an effects budget.
Well, yeah, but what were you expecting? If you went looking for an in depth meditation on the differences between man and beast, or a wonderful character piece from Del Toro and Hopkins, I can see why you were disappointed.
I went hoping to see a CGI werewolf tear people into little pieces, some people talk with british accents, and while I wish the wolf had looked less like the buffy style gorilla wolf man, I was almost 100% satisfied. People got fucking eaten.
It was awesome.
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I'd have to agree. All things considered, it really wasn't that gory. It's a movie about werewolves! I wanted more blood and body parts and crazy "I'm going to hunt you down and rip you to shreds" scenes. Actually I thought Hopkins scolding Del Toro after his first night was kind of funny. I wish they'd added more things like that in there to keep it from being bland.
I heard someone goes missing in it.
Someone does go missing! From a mental hospital that looks really creepy! On an island! That's all I know. It seems spooky. I have not met my spooky quota this month. I wanted to meet it yesterday, seeing as how it has become tradition to watch spooky movies on v-day, but that didn't happen.
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The director didn't get why things are scary, everything was profoundly ugly, none of the violence was remotely sensical (as revenge, the doctor gets... impaledon a fence? why did that even happen). Come on, dude. I had reasonable expectations - namely that the filmmaking would display basic competence.
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Wolfman makes me think that England was painted in grayscale and that monster violence looks like live-action cartoons.
As for the fence thing: That just seemed like a gratuitous side effect ('cause anyone who mocks the monster has to die) of being thrown out the window in an ironic echo of the pre-transformation line from the doctor about flying out the window.
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Also people getting impaled on fences is raaaad
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Too bad he didn't get cut in half by said fence... sigh.
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I don't think physics would allow that.
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Not at that height, no. But it's a movie, who needs physics.
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Yeah, granted, the transformation into the wolfman pretty much ignores conservation of mass.
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Wolfman makes me think that England was painted in grayscale and that monster violence looks like live-action cartoons.
As for the fence thing: That just seemed like a gratuitous side effect ('cause anyone who mocks the monster has to die) of being thrown out the window in an ironic echo of the pre-transformation line from the doctor about flying out the window.
the doctor was the one person who should have been totally eviscerated by the wolfman. also why did that one guy get run over by a steam car. also look there was just a lot of pointless stuff.
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Johnny do you not like bad horror movies?
It's so funny when B movies try to be A movies. It's really cute!
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yeah but this is just a dumb A movie.
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Johnny do you not like bad horror movies?
Kieffer I literally watched a bad horror movie last night, my bros and I crushed some beers and watched Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation, which is in the "so bad it's good/so bad it's Lynchian" camp. This movie was just bad - like I said, the special effects (mostly in terms of the giddy, cartoonish violence) were good, but that's because the money was spent on them instead of a decent script, decent cinematography, decent editing, rehearsals...
I mean, there were some parts I enjoyed (FUCKIN WEREWOLF FIGHT MAN I MEAN SHIT GODDAMN) but every time there was a shot of a gypsy and the score suddenly burst into goddamn gypsy fiddles I fucking winced, you know?
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Yeah I mean I totally understand I just really like gypsy fiddles I guess and also gypsies in general
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If we're talking about bad horror movies, everyone who has not seen The Toxic Avenger needs to stop what they are doing and watch it right now. That movie is seminal.
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Toxie is more action than horror, but I guess seminal applies cuz he kinda looks like a big cummy penis.
Y'all should watch Blood Diner though real talk.
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Yeah the ending was fun to watch, but the rest was pretty damn horrible.
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Yeah I mean I totally understand I just really like gypsy fiddles I guess and also gypsies in general
The movie othered the absolute fuck out of them though.
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Oh my god did you just use "other" as a verb
Dang, dude. College.
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what does that even mean?
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To exoticize, dehumanize, etc. It's a way of describing how stereotypes encourage prejudice. In this case, I assume JC means that the portrayal of gypsies in The Wolfman treated them like a quaint and roguish people rather than a legit culture on equal-footing with any other given group of people.
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I heard Edward Said loved this shit.
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Y'all should watch Blood Diner though real talk.
Blood Diner is seriously one of the worst pieces of trash to ever call itself a movie. And its so fucking funny, really go watch it.