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Fun Stuff => ENJOY => Topic started by: scarred on 06 Jun 2010, 21:30
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eeeeeeeeeeeeeee (http://io9.com/5556838/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-trailer-debuts)
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eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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Eeeeehhhhhhhhhh.
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don't you rain on this parade! don't you dare
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eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew
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mmmmeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhh
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blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh
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HEY! If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all!
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY! If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all!
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So excited for this film. Fuck all the haters.
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Oh my goodness yay. It is only five months away! FIVE MONTHS!!! squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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I'm excited about it, but the trailer made me suddenly think - how funny and horrifying would it be if, in the film, they changed the ending and Harry died? Everyone would be furious.
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I think I'm more excited for the second part then this one. Didn't the first part of Deathly Hollows mostly contain camping and angst?
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I'm excited about it, but the trailer made me suddenly think - how funny and horrifying would it be if, in the film, they changed the ending and Harry died? Everyone would be furious.
(minor spoiler alert)
They didn't. There were press photos that showed Harry and Ginny in old person makeup, meaning they shot the epilogue. Which sucks, because I hated the epilogue, but at least it means they probably stuck to the book pretty well.
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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
can i line up now
can i
fuck i am having the most intense harry potter party when the second part comes out
i am excited for everything except albus severus. seriously. what. why.
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Watching Fred die will be more painful for me than A.S.P.
Haha, asp.
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(minor spoiler alert)
They didn't. There were press photos that showed Harry and Ginny in old person makeup, meaning they shot the epilogue. Which sucks, because I hated the epilogue, but at least it means they probably stuck to the book pretty well.
It could be a trick! Two endings were shot!
nah.
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asp.
this never happened
NEVER
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Watching Lupinnnnnnnnnn die will be more painful for me than A.S.P.
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Eh, last book was never really my favorite
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Really? I loooved it.
Watching Lupinnnnnnnnnn die will be more painful for me than A.S.P.
As I recall, you don't actually see Lupin die. Harry just sort of stumbles onto his corpse in the Great Hall, snuggled up to Tonks.
Which is pretty irresponsible of them as parents and made me lose a lot of respect for both their characters. I get the allegory between them and Harry's parents, but HP's 'rents were betrayed in their own (supposedly protected) home while Lupin/Tonks dashed headlong into what was essentially the Last Battle with little to no regard as to their recently birthed child. I mean wasn't Tonks only a few weeks out of her pregnancy at that point anyway? What is she doing fighting?
...I've had way too many debates about these books as a series.
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Watching Dobby die will be more painful for me than A.S.P.
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Actually I agree about Lupin and Tonks in a way but I guess they were fighting for the future of their son not to be under tyranny and knew he would be taken care of by one of the survivors.
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Well yes, he discovers they've been killed in the hour that Voldemort gives him to go into the Forest, but I imagine they will show dead Lupin and it will be saaaaaaaaaaaaad.
I kind of consider Lupin and Tonks' patricipation to be similar to a lot of men who served in the world wars - if you didn't enlist, you were considered a coward and there was a lot of guilt/shame. Like May said, fighting for a better world for their son and loved ones.
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Watching Dobby die will be more painful for me than A.S.P.
Oh man, yes it will.
Considering how long Lupin had been fighting and that Tonks is an Auror, them fighting made sense to me. It's what they do. Do I wish one of them had the sense to stay home, yes, but Teddy got a better family when it came to Harry - he lived with his grandmother as well as having Harry and all the Weasley's as well.
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Those are good points, it just still hit me as a little irresponsible of them as characters and, on a more reality-based level, like Rowling was fishing for even more emotional heartstrings to tug.
All of this being said of course book 7 is still probably my favorite and whenever I reread it I usually do it in one or two sittings.
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The thing I disliked most about the deaths of Lupin and Tonks was that they were just shown dead, as if they were completely unimportant characters. I know that JKR was going for a "this is part of the horror of war" thing with Harry walking in and seeing so many people dead, but it struck me as lazy and disrespectful writing and took me out of the scene for a moment. It's not that I can't see them both fighting, and it's not that their deaths are implausible in context, it's the fact that we don't see what happens or even hear about any details later. I thought the characters deserved better than 'whatever, they're dead' -- they deserved closure. Even Fred gets short shrift, but at least we know what happens.
After the final volume came out and JKR said she was done, a friend of mine said if she decided to start a new series in the same world, the first book would be called Teddy Lupin and the Pointless Deaths of My Parents.
Regarding the final movies, I am looking forward to them, but I'm trying not to have high expectations.
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Hedwig.
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WHY WOULD YOU BRING THAT UP
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
(yes that was the death that emotionally affected me the most, shut up)
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Hedwig made me so sad, but that was the one that I had to read a few times before I understood just what happened. Which in turn made it even worse. But I cried over Dobby and Fred the most.
(Don't judge me.)
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Not judging.
Agreeing.
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I had to put the book down and go get a glass of water. It felt like the world had gone turvy-topsy. All of a sudden, everyone was at risk. It was the moment when I realized this was really the end.
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Yeah I couldn't believe she did that. I thought that was probably the most shocking death of the book, and like Linds, I remember having to read it several times to understand what actually happened.
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What gets me is that people still think this is a kids' series. I was what, seventeen, and I cried at every death and will probably cry buckets at the film. Seven year olds are going to be traumatised for life.
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I was nine when I read the first few, and seventeen when I finished. Books followed that path.
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I just remember buying the book at midnight and reading it straight through as soon as I got home, I think I finished around 6 am or so. Then I crashed hardcore, woke up, and read it again. As far as I recall I didn't cry about Hedwig, but I was shocked when it happened because really who expects the owl to die? But I'm pretty sure I at least teared up a bit when Dobby died, and Fred.
The winner of most tears goes to Dumbledore in book six, though. I straight up had to stop reading because I couldn't see through all of the tears.
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Nah, most tears was definitely Sirius.
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Yeah, Sirius dying is the saddest part of the series for me. He's one of my favorite characters and him going so soon really sucked, especially since he just kind of disappeared instead of having a really understandable, concrete death. Sirius and Fred and George are my absolute favorites, so at least 1/3 of them lived...
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Most tears was Sirius, but not at the time of his death. It was when Harry was having a breakdown in Dumbledore's office afterwards, throwing things and being furious at the world, trying to find someone to blame.
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I must have a heart of stone because I never cried at any of the books.
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I cried two times, the first time was in book four when everyone pops out of Voldemort's wand and whats-er-face reporter witch or something says something encouraging to Harry, the second was Dobby.
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I never cried but I got pretty emotional during the scene graphite mentioned, the dumbledore's office post-siriucide
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I cried fairly well throughout the books. I probably cried the most though at the end of the fourth, though I think Dobby was fairly close. but none of them have had a constant heart string moment on rereading that Umbridge attacking Hagrid in book 5 does, no matter how many times I reread that book, no matter how much I expect it I am always on the verge of angry tears in that scene.
This great calm giant, rarely angry and never violent, finally lets loose and starts going apeshit. Not because they're attacking him, but because of fang and McGonagall , then at the end he still goes back for the faithful dog.
I'm not crying now, totally not...I'm just tired, and theres something in my eye, totally.
anywho, back on topic, I still haven't forgiven the underworld crossover that was of Prisoner of Azkaban or the fucking dragon fight scene or living forest in Goblet of Fire. To the point that I haven't seen Order of the Phoenix or Half Blood Prince, so I see no reason to see this.
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Order of the Phoenix is actually quite good, much stronger than Goblet of Fire. Half Blood Prince was good up until the end which I felt they kind of fucked up.
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Order of the Phoenix seemed like the most emotionally tangled and realistic one (echoes of this with Ron and Lupin in Deathly Hallows), but then, I'm one of the minority of fans I know who thought it was high time for Harry to finally have his shouty breakdown at Grimmauld Place. The kid had a lot of trauma to deal with.
Also, Order of the Phoenix has Umbridge, who is just so delightfully easy to hate, and yet pretty believable as an actual human compared to some of the Death Eaters.
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Yeah the 3rd and 4th movies were terrible but David Yates (the director of movies 5 - 7) has got it pretty much down. The 5th was my favorite for a while and the 6th is absolutely fantastic up until the last 10 minutes or so. Slughorn was positively magnificent. I did really hate the way they handled the ending, although I get that that was intentional in order to be as demoralizing as possible.
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Hey I liked the fourth
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the 4th book was my favorite for a long time but the movie ugggghhhhhhhhh
"hey let's make our twist ending really obvious by making moody look menacingly at harry the entire movie"
"oh and instead of including some of the 700+ pages of plot development let's have a pointless dragon fight that defies logic by going onto the castle grounds"
"and don't forget to give dumbledore his meth so he can dash across the room screaming at harry in every scene."
"K BREAK"
usually i don't nerd rage at this type of thing but man that movie was baaaad.
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Yeah, I felt that one deviated from the book the most and the dragon scene was soooo stupid.
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I hate that some people say Order of the Phoenix is boring and nothing happens. I read that book on the train home from Ottawa and cried so much when Sirius died that the attendant came over and asked me if I was okay. I held up the book and he said, "Oh, I understand."
I feel like the movies have been incredibly short-sighted, because once you finish the series and then go back and read them again, you realize just how many details end up being very significant. But that's the magic of the books, and the movies will obviously never catch up.
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The thing about Order of the Phoenix was that it was about 700 pages of character development and 100 pages of actual plot events. Additionally, Harry, being 15, acted as most 15-year-olds do: as a whiny, obnoxious, abrasive, self-involved cunt. On top of both these issues was the fact that Order was the follow-up to Goblet of Fire, which not only contained the Quidditch World Cup, Triwizard Tournament and Voldemort's ascension to power, but also the core trio coming to grips with their burgeoning sexuality, among other things. Concerning plot events, Goblet of Fire is rivaled only by Deathly Hallows. Fans were understandably disgruntled that the follow-up to the (then) most action-packed book in the series was essentially a character study. Of course, many acknowledged that this was very obviously an intentional device employed by Rowling in order to make the reader feel as Harry did during the entire 5th book: ridiculously frustrated. Heaped on top of all this is the death of a newly beloved character, Sirius, in an action sequence barely as long as some of the tasks of the Triwizard Tournament of the previous book.
Don't get me wrong - I absolutely adore Order of the Phoenix, and second to Hallows I think it's probably my favorite. I gobble character development up like pudding and I've probably reread it more than any book in the series. But in the context of the time of the book's release, it's more than understandable that the majority of the fanbase was a little disappointed - it just wasn't the no-holds-barred thrill ride they were expecting.
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Also, for the sake of honesty, I was one of the disgruntled folks at first. I liked it, but I felt exactly as Harry did in the beginning of that book - waiting for the shit to hit the fan. It eventually did, but almost as an afterthought to the development of the politics of the 'verse.
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Harry Potter doesn't hold a candle to the character-development-and-no-action of the later books of Wheel of Time. Fans don't know how good they got it. At least J.K. Rowling didn't die before the last book was finished.
And anyway, I look forward to seeing this movie with my Harry Potter friends like I've done with every past Harry Potter movie. I may not care that much for the books, but I really like the movies for some reason. All of them.
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Yeah, but the new Wheel of Time book was good.
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Yes, it was.
But HP fans have something over us WoT fans: their books actually make good movies. WoT wouldn't.
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Oh I don't know, if a half literate hack like Stephanie Myers can get her books made into a movie series - albeit one that makes me want to gag every time a new film comes out - surely something better can be made into a movie.
Then again, anything is better than Twilight, hell, a Chinese Menu would make a better film!
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Although without Twilight, there wouldn't be the rifftrax! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpT8l94CKcs)
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The Twilight series is hilariously bad, which in turn makes for hilariously bad movies. Guess what kind of movies are fun to watch when drunk, especially when you're in a theater and you know you're ruining it for the people who actually like it.
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Hey I am totally looking forward to the adaptation of the 4th book. It is insane.
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Is that the one where she is pregnant?
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and she gives birth to a half vampire who then happens to be jacob's soulmate.
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And the birth process involves a vampire-teeth Caesarean.
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Can't wait to watch?
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Oh the 4th one will be the best. Out of the books it is by far the most ridiculous and who doesn't want to watch Bella get kicked and gnawed to death?
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It still can't be as good as Wizard People, Dear Reader.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPVhmZodaLA
They should just hire this guy to do Movie 7 and 8.
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Who doesn't want to watch Bella get kicked and gnawed to death?
While this is true, it is ruined by the fact that she turns into a totally hot and amazingly giftedl benevolent vampire 18-year-old supermom afterwards.
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Yes, but then she punches a rock into smitherines and people laugh at her. I take that as a symbol for how stupid she is.
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SPOILERS
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oh man, I thought you guys were still talking about Harry Potter and I read the last couple posts thinking "I don't remember that AT ALL. And who the fuck is Bella?"
derp
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I think they are talking about Bella from HP, no?
ETA: no.
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let's bring this back on topic in the most epic way possible
first official full trailer. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EC2tmFVNNE&feature=player_embedded)
i literally shit my pants while crying and ejaculating.
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I retained all my bodily fluids.
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you emotionless husk
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Why is there an 8 month gap between the two movies? They have obviously filmed it all, going from the trailer, so it's not like they still have stuff to do on it. I would understand November 2010 and early 2011, but July? Annoying.
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well post-production actually is the longest part of filmmaking, and while it's true that an 8-month wait period is probably unnecessary, it's also true that they will be editing, sound mixing, color correcting, ADR, etc for a while. they are probably still working on the 1st installment right now.
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To put it in a little bit more context, the LoTR films were released a year apart for both and the Kill Bill parts were released six months apart.
Since each part is going to be full length this might actually be much more exciting than the past films have been. Although I think I'll probably pass as I've never enjoyed any of the previous. What makes me kind of sad is that Guillermo Del Toro wanted to direct this film but was busy with The Hobbit which he's not doing anyways. How many years of complication has that film had?
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That trailer made me realize how big of a roll the Harry Potter books/movies played in my growing up.
I mean, they aren't, like, defining of me, but them coming to a close is like "damn you are old now son".
Chapters you know?
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AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is the little girl inside of me screaming in excitement. Be glad you can't actually hear it, because you'd go deaf.
Also: I am seeing BOTH midnight releases and I need to finish my Ravenclaw scarf by the time the first one comes out so I can be über nerdy and wear it to both. If not, I will wear my Dobby hat and cry into it when he's killed.
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I was wavering between impressed and not very impressed until I saw "in 3D" and then my jaw dropped. Never mind that there's far too much action and not enough plot, HP in 3D will be mind-blowing. And it's good to see Hermione's dressing along Emma Watson's style.
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Harry Potter in 3D will be headache-inducing. The 3D opening of the last one gave me a headache, so there is no way I would go see a whole movie in 3D.
Also, with the examples of movies with the large time between them there wasn't a trailer for the two films that started off with clips from the second part. That trailer makes it look like everything is done and dusted; hell, most of the stuff from that trailer looked like it was from the second part anyway. If they're going to leave 8 months between the two they should have done a trailer for the movie that is going to be coming out now, rather than one that is essentially saying "look what you're going to see halfway through next year! Isn't it awesome!?"
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Yeah, I'm not seeing it in 3D. It looks spectacular as is and I really would rather enjoy it without a splitting headache.
And re: trailer, I agree! Only a few clips seemed to have been from the first part. Nobody's going to see epic Harry/Voldie battle in the first half, so I don't know why they kept focusing on that. I feel like they should have shown things like the escape from the Dursley's, the wedding being interrupted (if they're even doing that, considering they never introduced Bill in any of the films), and maybe more from the bank, as they did show the dragon. But regardless, I'm very excited for both films.
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I never trust trailers anymore, Hollywood has got the formula down and it's usually hard to determine the quality of the film by the trailer. I'll pass on 7, most likely both parts and I'll wait till I can download them at my discretion. I'm kind of digging the fact that it's in 2 parts because maybe we'll get the full extent of the film. Imagine if they had done this for the fourth film like they had originally intended, that would have been much preferable. Honestly though, the acting is generally so bad in that movie and they always have interviews of these guys going "yeah, for this movie we just gave it our all." And the director is usually like "they all grew up so much during the filming of this." And then I see the film and it's all so wooden.
It's not filming in 3-D is it? Because if it's post-processed then it's going to be absolutely horrible. I'm really not digging the whole 3-D craze as the best theater in my city only usually shows the films in 3-D.
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I am gonna watch it in 3d because I live in the future.
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It's not filming in 3-D is it? Because if it's post-processed then it's going to be absolutely horrible. I'm really not digging the whole 3-D craze as the best theater in my city only usually shows the films in 3-D.
From what I've read about it, the films are being converted into 3D after the fact. I'm definitely going to be seeing them in 2D if at all possible.
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yeah fuck 3d man i am totally 2ding the shit out of these.
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Hm yeah post-production 3D is not worth watching. That is massively disappointing.
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(http://i46.tinypic.com/2j195lk.jpg)
holy shit
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it's gonna be in threeee deeee
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That is seriously one the single best movie posters I have seen in a long, long time. In fact it's hard for me to stop looking at how deliciously awesome this poster is. The way all the text is centered, the part 1 part 2 deal, the fantastic symmetry. Serious props to whomever designed this.
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It seems to me like the trailer, the posters, everything seem calculated to indicate that it is going to be a much darker, much less children-friendly film than the previous ones. They've been moving in that direction as we go along and the books do the same thing, but I can imagine that any children who got into HP after the series was already out and popular might be a bit peeved if this is a 15 or even an 18 (can't imagine them doing that though).
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I expect it to be PG13 in the states. I can't see it going above that, even if it is a lot darker and there's a lot of fighting than the other movies. There's nothing else to it that would give it a higher rating (i.e. graphic sex/nudity, extreme violence, copious drug/alcohol abuse). I don't think kids 11+ would have a problem with it, but younger kids probably shouldn't just because I think all the deaths would be too much to handle.
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I never trust trailers anymore, Hollywood has got the formula down and it's usually hard to determine the quality of the film by the trailer.
Admittedly I haven't paid that much itnerest in films since meeting my fiancee and having less time but the UK ones used to be very informative because, as I suspect the US ones are, they were targetted at the audience they wanted to reach. However, I try to avoid American trailers as they tend to give spoilers and/or scenes from near the end. If I know how it's going to end and/or a major twist, then why bother watching?
Why is there an 8 month gap between the two movies? They have obviously filmed it all, going from the trailer, so it's not like they still have stuff to do on it. I would understand November 2010 and early 2011, but July? Annoying.
Because more people go to the cinema during the summer than the winter. If they launch in July then they can sell more tickets and make bigger profits.
let's bring this back on topic in the most epic way possible
first official full trailer. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EC2tmFVNNE&feature=player_embedded)
That made me want to watch it less. Just as I expected it had spoilers, worse, it concentrated on them. It seemed to be saying only the last bit of the 2nd film is worth watching.
Now that I've seen the trailer, unless Julie asks me to take her to the cinema/watch on DVD, I'll wait til it comes to TV.
Yes, I know the last book is a lot slower but there were lots of other interesting things they could have mentioned that came earlier.
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Wait, you were worried about spoilers in a Harry Potter movie?
It's odd, you've made me think of something that has slowly been dawning on me for a while.. I think I know the story of most movies I'm watching recently. I don't go and read a summary or something, I just know what the story is. Which implies that the trailers are a lot more informative than I give them credit for, or there aren't very many original movies being made anymore.
The only movie that I have seen recently that I can remember being like 'I know absolutely nothing about this movie except that it's highly recommended' was Moon.
Maybe I should stop watching trailers?
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^ I have also been considering this notion.
I love watching trailers, though.
They're exciting.
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Wait, you were worried about spoilers in a Harry Potter movie?
I realised, after I signed off, that that's almost a contradication in terms as probably 90% of the audience have read the books.
{edit}But the trailer did concentrate too much on the final fight scenes (suggesting the rest of the movie isn't any good).
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Too bad the Harry Potter movies are a staggering financial failure (http://www.deadline.com/2010/07/studio-shame-even-harry-potter-pic-loses-money-because-of-warner-bros-phony-baloney-accounting/).
Why yes, that was sarcasm dripping from my typing fingers.