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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: seasmoke on 05 Nov 2010, 07:05
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I love music. In my humble oppinion music is the most wonderful thing ever invented ever. Unfortunatly I am musicly ignorant. My friends will occasionaly show me a good band or musician and I usualy fall in love with there music (my friends have pretty good taste) but sadly they've never had enough time to give me a propper musical education of "Everyone knows all these people are avesome" and "These lesser known bands have music you'd totaly love" and so I turn to you, people of the internet, specificaly of the QC forums because I know there are some simmilaritys in our music tastes. I beseech you, teech me in the ways of awesome music!
I shall list here (in no particular order) the few artists that I know and like and hopefuly from that you may be able to direct me towards others that I would enjoy.
My #1 favorite is and always has been The Beatles.
I also love: Sigur Ros, Oren Lavie, Coldplay, Radiohead, Owl City, Joanna Newsom, Dan le Sac VS Scroobious Pip, Bat for Lashes (though I haven't heard many of there songs and don't know which are good) CocoRosie (Same with them) Regina Spektor, U2 is good, I love listening to Cirque du Soleil soundtracks 'cuz they're AMAZING, Eva Cassidy (she has an angel's voice) and The Rolling Stones are OK, not my faves though,
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Tommy how did you not mention The Kinks?
Cmon man. You're growing senile with your old age.
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Sloan
That being said, it's wise to not take too dogmatic a stance on what "good" music taste is. As you know, there's so much out there and a good bit of variation in what people like and don't like.
as far as other recommendations are concerned, I can see a few patterns in what you like but no one coherent direction, which is fine, but makes it difficult to give concrete recommendations. It does seem you like a few bands who have a very echoey, ethereal, atmospheric sound. this leads me to believe you would probably like bands like this will destroy you and explosions in the sky (both very soundtracky) and then also Caribou who used to be called manitoba and released fantastic music under both names. These also happen to be some of the first bands I found, through this very site, when first exploring independent music. I also get the feeling you'd like Beulah, simply because you'd need brain damage not to love them. I'd start with When your heartstrings break. also listen to tommy.
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The Beach Boys are also worth a look if you love the beatles.
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You may want to look at my caffeine intake levels. *facedesk*
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Sloan
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By the way guy, if you end up getting into The Byrds or Sloan, give a listen to The Bye Bye Blackbirds and The Zebras. They're more recent, the former being from the Bay Area and the latter...Australia I think?
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If you like Dan le Sac vs Scroobius pip, you ought to check out Das Racist's new mixtapes. They're available for free download. here's one: http://www.djbooth.net/index/mixtapes/entry/das-racist-sit-down-man (http://www.djbooth.net/index/mixtapes/entry/das-racist-sit-down-man)
Tommy recommends The Velvet Underground if you "fancy a challenge," but for my money VU's far more essential listening than the Stones or the Byrds. No slight on them really, the Velvets just did so much that's influenced a great deal of the music I listen to now quite directly. Really I can't recommend them enough. Nico's voice in their first album may turn you off (though if it doesn't, good on you), but she's only on the first one, so don't pay it too much mind.
Oh and if you like Bat for Lashes remotely listen to this album
Hounds of Love (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hounds_of_Love)
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Everyone should listen to Das Racist, though.
Everyone.
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The Bye Bye Blackbirds
OAKTOOOOOOOOOWN
see also: a lot of Rilo Kiley, just avoid the album with "Portions For Foxes" on it
see also also: Les Paul and Mary Ford. The Beatles owe a considerable amount to this duo.
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Listen to metal, you fucking pussy
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Yeah wait a minute I didn't suggest Boris yet.
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Listen to Camera Obscura.
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Good call on Camera Obscura and Caribou. I also suggest:
The Bird and the Bee
She & Him
Real Estate
Broken Bells
Belleruche
Mogwai
Telekinesis
Here We Go Magic
The Very Best
Ratatat
Yeasayer
The Bamboos
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Also good places to start metal-wise are Baroness and Torche. Both are very accessible
You also might like Jesu, which sounds a bit like shoegaze except with guitars tuned to drop A
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The Besnard Lakes
Bottomless Pit/Silkworm
Deerhunter's Microcastle
Broken Social Scene
K.C. Accidental
Liars (start with their self-titled, it's their most straight forward)
Mission of Burma (I probably couldn't live without Signals, Calls and Marches or Vs.)
My Bloody Valentine
Okkervil River
Polvo (I'd just start with their first, Cor-Crane Secret and continue forward to Exploded Drawing)
Seam's Are you driving me crazy?
Braid (Age of Octeen is a pretty sweet album)
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Also good places to start metal-wise are Baroness and Torche. Both are very accessible
You also might like Jesu, which sounds a bit like shoegaze except with guitars tuned to drop A
Hey, thanks for this. I don't know shit about metal except that I dislike black metal, shred metal, and tech metal, and all those sorts of metal that "real metalheads" mostly listen to, find Iron Maiden and Judas Priest sometimes great but largely boring as fuck, sometimes guiltily indulge in 80s hair metal and Lordi-style power metal, and love the shit outta Type O Negative and Torche.
I just checked out some Baroness and they're excellent. Working on Jesu now.
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Good call on Camera Obscura and Caribou. I also suggest:
The Bird and the Bee
She & Him
Real Estate
Broken Bells
Belleruche
Mogwai
Telekinesis
Here We Go Magic
The Very Best
Ratatat
Yeasayer
The Bamboos
all of these are in the "wink wink" thread too!
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Also good places to start metal-wise are Baroness and Torche. Both are very accessible
You also might like Jesu, which sounds a bit like shoegaze except with guitars tuned to drop A
Hey, thanks for this. I don't know shit about metal except that I dislike black metal, shred metal, and tech metal, and all those sorts of metal that "real metalheads" mostly listen to, find Iron Maiden and Judas Priest sometimes great but largely boring as fuck, sometimes guiltily indulge in 80s hair metal and Lordi-style power metal, and love the shit outta Type O Negative and Torche.
I just checked out some Baroness and they're excellent. Working on Jesu now.
You should go listen to Gama Bomb (http://www.earache.com/gamabomb/)
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Oh man I totally miss these threads.
Listen to Devo yeah?
Oh, and Nick Drake. Seriously.
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I just checked out some Baroness and they're excellent.
I feel like I sorta failed you as a poster here, because although I remember a few of us furiously fellating Baroness's Red Album back in '07, clearly that wasn't enough.
And yeah, more people should give Type O Negative a shot. There's nothing I could say about about Peter Steele's persona that isn't already perfectly explained by single listening session of Bloody Kisses.
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stay away from pitchfork and other similar sites that just write biased reviews with an unnecessary amount of pompous adjectives and descriptions of the music that don't really make sense unless you're already aware of their music.
for discovering music, last.fm and ratyourmusic is were it's at. last.fm has a great 'similar artists' feature, and recommends you similar artists you've been listening to. rateyourmusic is great for cataloging all your music and discovering new bands based on genre/year/anything.
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(http://cdn.pitchfork.com/media/9356-paris-1919.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3O-gL4JQps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjAze3vAHNs
(Yes I know the second one is not on that album, :P )
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First off, get you some Scissor Sisters.
Then, get some Nurse With Wound.
Then you get a whole bunch of crystal meth and hole up in your apartment until you've developed a refined taste.
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Gene, how have you never heard Jesu? I know you're a filthy hipster and all, but...Jesu!
And in the vein of Jesu, FUCKING LISTEN TO NADJA. It's less shoegaze, more droney.
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These are the only albums you need:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0a/Ramones_album_cover.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/50/Ramones_-_Leave_Home_album_cover.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/be/TheRamonesRockettoRussialbumcover.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/97/Road_to_Ruin.jpg)
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Just listen to Khanate and Goatsnake on repeat for days.
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(http://static.gigwise.com/gallery/2923198_TheKnackMySharona.jpg)
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Man The Ramones are great and all but no amount of cutesy hyperbole will make that an acceptable suggestion.
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Nipplezzzz
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TITTAYZ
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:psyduck: TITTAYZ :psyduck:
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I hate that song but I like those bosoms.
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80s bosoms were the best bosoms. Fast Times at Ridgemont High, you guys.
EDIT: Oh hey apparently My Sharona came out in 1979. The shame!
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Guys please don't try to recommend people metal without a professional on hand.
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Well dude Ronnie James Dio is dead and I'm pretty sure David Vincent is illiterate and it's more trouble than it's worth to try to involve Glenn Danzig in this thing so we're just gonna have to make do, man.
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Actually just avoid trying to talk about metal full stop maybe.
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I can't really think of Torche or Jesu as metal, I really can't. In fact, I sorta assumed that Jesu was just brought up after looking at other stuff the guy said they liked.
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Metal is the magicalest genre, it can be everything, even things that aren't metal! Magicalest.
(Khar if you're trying to make me feel bad about my taste in the silliest music ever, you are going to have to try harder or find something else to do)
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I'm just trying to be nice. My observation of humans is that most of them like to avoid saying and doing intensely embarrasing things so I thought I'd steer you all a path through the minefield.
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What did people ever decide Baroness is, anyway? As far as I know they're one of those bands that people call metal but can't really be considered remotely metal when you consider the existence of stuff like this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1cDxxYTEx0)
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Googles says progressive metal but that's ridiculous 'cuz people used to call Queensryche that. WTF.
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Maybe it progressed from one thing to the other.
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Yeah, but that's when you're supposed to give it a new name.
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I mean, I thought progressive metal was about being stuck in the past, like Dream Theater.
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"progressive metal" is used these days mainly as a codeword for inoffensive post-sludge bands with artistic pretensions who are marketed mainly to audiences outside the heavy metal subculture, who like to buy their records to show off the sophisticated diversity of their music taste. They find these bands acceptable when they don't like other metal because of the hardcore riffs and clever marketing which states them as being something other than those OTHER metal bands that are listened to by semi-mythical trailer trash. They get to feel sophisticated because they like GOOD metal, not the other type of metal, enjoyed by people who are somewhere between Ted Nugent and the dudes off of Heavy Metal Parking Lot. It's largely an American phenomenon; Southern Lord have pushed the concept with some of their black metal stable as well, explaining the joyous enthusiasm of hipsters for fairly lukewarm BM acts like Wolves in the Throne Room and Leviathan, generally coming from people who think Impaled Nazarene is an illegal German sex position.
Generally people call heavy metal influenced by prog rock 'prog metal'.
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What did people ever decide Baroness is, anyway? As far as I know they're one of those bands that people call metal but can't really be considered remotely metal when you consider the existence of stuff like this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1cDxxYTEx0)
Explain to me how the existence of one band excludes or precludes the classification of another band?
Or to put it another way; Baroness has riffs and harmonised "weedly weedly" bits and a shouty man and long instrumental sections &c. Like, there's hardcore and sludge and classic rock and prog rock and bluegrass and plenty of other shit influence in there but if everybody only made metal that was inspired by other metal then... Well you'd probably end up with tiresome po-faced shit like Carpathian Forest.
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What did people ever decide Baroness is, anyway? As far as I know they're one of those bands that people call metal but can't really be considered remotely metal when you consider the existence of stuff like this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1cDxxYTEx0)
It's basically just southern sludge (Kylesa, Mastodon, etc.) meets post-rock.
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Also metal douchery is probably the most hilarious form of douchery. Please quit it guys, it's kind of embarrassing. All getting offended that people might like metal, but GASP they're the wrong kind of people!
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Explain to me how the existence of one band excludes or precludes the classification of another band?
Because to not do so would kinda render the point of classifying them at all pointless. Rap isn't a very useful designation if you're including Wayne Newton.
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And for the record, I'm not trying to be a dick here. I just happen to know fuck all about metal beyond the '80s.
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Hair got shorter, tunings got lower, bros got involved.
And some dude stabbed another dude.
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Yeah, but that's when you're supposed to give it a new name.
Like "progressed metal"?
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I'm kinda partial to "regressed."
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both very soundtracky
Even more so than soundtracky, I'd say that the original poster's taste runs towards "polished" (i.e., clean production and clear hooks). I remember being there when I first listened to Green Day and thought, "Well, that was nice, but I feel like there's more."
In that vein here are the first things that pop into my head in the baby-steps-to-insanity-that-you-just-have-to-hear-to-get-there category of music:
Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde
REM - Document (but even more so the song Fall on Me from Life's Rich Pageant)
Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane over the Sea
Whiskeytown - Pneumonia
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
The Arcade Fire- Funeral
Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary
You kind of at least need to hate (or LOVE or at least heard) these albums before I get into real music discussion w/ you.
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Also metal douchery is probably the most hilarious form of douchery. Please quit it guys, it's kind of embarrassing. All getting offended that people might like metal, but GASP they're the wrong kind of people!
Dovey, what would you be like if someone said that you should start getting into indie by listening to The Killers and The Hoosiers.
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I don't even know who The Hoosiers are? And it seems like it would be pretty redundant to recommend the Killers, they are a very visible band.
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See, the thing about the metal scene is a lot of it's quite grass roots. There's a few big bands, big labels, big festivals that make good money, but outside that it's lots of networks of dudes and ladies running little venues, little bands, little distros, little zines and so on, mostly out of a genuine affection for the music and for the other people who like it, who tend to, actually on the whole, be really nice people. It is kind of natural for metalheads to be just a tiny bit pissed off when Vice magazine woke up from a coke binge and decided it new what the best metal bands were, and it was some yowly sloppy crap that was barely related to metal. The last time this properly happened, in the 80's, corporate manufactured cock-rock spandex merchants fucking knocked the metal scene into oblivion, especially in the US, for fucking years. We've also had to deal with nu-metal and fucking deathcore.
Actually, why is it that all these genres arose in America? America, stop trying to be metal full-stop (Panopticon and the dudes from Slough Feg can come over as refugees).
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Panopticon is such a good band name.
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Panopticon is such a good band
In any case, regardless as what constitutes real metal you don't want to recommend something like Katharsis to someone who doesn't listen to metal at all. You've got to walk before you run, or raid a convent
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I hate it when people recommend the Beatles but don't actually recommend specific albums and talk about them. Fuck that. I'm talking about Beatles now, you metal-obsessed fucks can go on complaining about the 'incorrect' ways in which others are classifying metal and I'll do something closer to what the opening post asked.
Please Please Me - My favorite Beatles album. They were young, they were still friends, they were fun, they were shit hot. You dance to this, you sing along with this, and you sing it in two-part backing harmony with a lead vocal. It's the catchiest fucking music in the known universe and you don't ever question it for a second. It's simple and pure and perfect that way.
With The Beatles - More complex chord structures and meters. Call and response between lead and backing vocals on the very first track. "Till There Was You" basically tells Frank Sinatra that he's a fuckwad for judging the Beatles so hard, and Paul shines like a diamond. I've never cared much for him, but this is hands down his best vocal work. The production on this album is pretty ace, and they do some great Motown covers on here.
Meet The Beatles (US) - Half of the same stuff as With The Beatles but also includes "This Boy", "I Saw Her Standing There", and "I Wanna Hold Your Hand". Three songs you have heard of no matter where you live.
Rubber Soul - Getting more complex, lyrically and musically. "In My Life", "Girl" and "Nowhere Man" all stand out. And fuck you I'm not talking about goddamn "Norwegian Wood", I hate that song, talk to someone else about it if you really must.
Revolver - "She Said She Said", "Good Day Sunshine", "And Your Bird Can Sing", "For No One", "Taxman", "Tomorrow Never Knows", "Here, There and Everywhere". All on the same fucking album.
I don't even have to finish their discography. Hell, I even skipped a few albums and went out of order, and I never got past 1966 because even the most plebian of shitheads can talk about the White Album or Abbey Road.
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Panopticon is such a good band
What's a good album to try out?
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I started with his self-titled, didn't regret it
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I hate it when people recommend the Beatles but don't actually recommend specific albums and talk about them.
The OP said his favourite band is The Beatles. Dude doesn't need to know about his favourite band.
Likewise, dude listens to nothing which would suggest he likes metal. I always liked these threads where people asked for sensible suggestions, I thought we got pretty good at providing a service in that respect, which redeemed an otherwise intimidating subforum. If we just shout out random shit or whatever we happen to be listening to at that moment, they devolve into uselessness. I'll happily sit out threads where people ask about ska or dubstep or metal or any of the thousands of genres I know nothing about if other people will respect the requests of the OP. In this instance, they gave us a bunch of bands they already like so we have lots to work with. Makes sense, no?
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I don't like Pavement and y'all can go suck a cock on the golden gate bridge
Likewise, dude listens to nothing which would suggest he likes metal
I was just being glib! I wasn't expecting other people to start seriously telling the guy to recommend metal, hurr.
Anyway, uh, recommendations:
Tortoise: If you like any kind of post-rock, it is pretty likely you will enjoy Tortoise! They are generally considered one of two or three bands who invented the style. I'd recommend starting off with Millions Now Living Will Never Die.
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I hate it when people recommend the Beatles but don't actually recommend specific albums and talk about them.
The OP said his favourite band is The Beatles. Dude doesn't need to know about his favourite band.
Oh shit dude I'm sorry I totally misread that! That's what I get, I guess. Well, I suppose I'll just copypasta that whole thing to /mu on 4chan after I'm off work tonight, it's decent flamewar fodder and I'm feeling lazy.
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OP: Also check out GfC by Albert Hammond Jr. That's one of my most played songs, and I think it suits your taste.
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I'm gonna go with Autechre, Squarepusher, and Aphex Twin. Electronica baby, electronica.