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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: KharBevNor on 06 Jan 2011, 14:30
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Ok, so, I admit, I don't hold much hope for this thread given the last thread I made in this forum was about Coil, without a doubt one of the best bands ever, and it died within the space of a page despite the fact that the last remaining member of the band died. Whatever. I'm drunk enough that this seems like a worthwhile endeavour.
So what this thread is about is what I think is probably over-all my favourite form of music, that is to say 'weird' folk music. I'm gonna use that as a catch-all term for a lot of things that may only in fact be linked by my interest in them but in fact I think have a lot in common. What we're talking about here is music that is rooted in folk traditions but divorced from the whole live performance in cardigans scene. Almost all music that incorporates some influence from genres other than folk and more often than not ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF DRUGS. There's a definite continuity that begins with, say, the freakiest folk ensembles of the late sixties/early seventies, such as Cromagnon and Comus though all to a lesser extent (at least in terms of absolute what the fuck) more mellow hippie ensembles like The Incredible String Band, Pearls Before Swine and Dr. Strangely Strange. This is intrinsically connected through a raft of other bands of various sorts and swirls around and encompasses the neofolk/apocalytpic folk/folk noir movement that started in the 80's with the unimpeachable trio of Current 93/Death in June/Sol Invictus and went on that to be free folk and drone folk and psych folk which then recombined with post-industrial folk with like Blood Axis doing a split with In Gowan Ring or neofolk/drone fusions like Kiss the Anus of a Black Cat or Joy of Nature and generally a shitload of bands you've never heard of making the best music any loose set of human beings has ever made full stop, and I want to talk about it dammit!
If you have no idea what the fuck I am going on about you need to listen to like all the bands I just ranted about and also Werkraum, Sieben, Forseti, Birch Book, Sonne Hagal, Novemthree, Nature and Organisation, Telling the Bees, Mellow Candle, Of the Wand and the Moon, Xenis Emputae Travelling Band, Backworld, Andrew King, The Owl Service, Thee Majesty, Pantaleimon, Agitated Radio Pilot, Stone Breath, Lux Interna, Avarus, English Heretic, Fire + Ice, Horses of the Gods, The Magickal Folk of the Faraway Tree dear christ I could write this list forever and ever and ever.
Also, also, caveat, if you start going on about five-years-past-trendy 'new weird america' (protip: not new, it was always kind of weird, fuck off) then you fail music forever. There are several particular names I am watching out for and if you mention them, no mercy. I will kill you and your family and your friends and your families friends and your friends families.
When I'm sober and off mobile internet I'll put up some albums from my collection! It is extensive! It is complete! You are powerless before it you woooorms.
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hey do you mean stuff like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7bHe--mp1g)
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Hey fuck you Young God records is good.
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No, like three-four artists on Young Gods are good and that is not the same thing.
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Kudos on almost exactly hittin on the head one particularly egregious nail I would take my claw hammer too and cast into the workshop bin of total iniquity though.
Now.
Real music.
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Which of the multitude of bands you mentioned would you consider the best place to start? There's a lot of material there.
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Fantastic timing on this thread, I have been wanting to get into Current 93 but his discography is about the size of all the other discographies put together, which is pretty intimidating. Is there a good place in particular to start with his music?
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Not sure if I'm doing exactly what you said not to or not, because I don't really know what you're talking about, but these are a couple things that instantly came to mind when I saw the thread:
Larkin Grimm. appalachian mountain music by some insane chick. mildly disturbing at times
Tobacco/BMSR's old stuff is very folky...and completely weird. acoustic guitar tape-loops with an out-of-tune recorder and a dirtbike vroom. awesome.
Jason The Swamp, another contemporary solo artist, might actually my favorite anything of....forever. He is excellent. I'm told it's sort of like Animal Collective's early stuff but I can't corroborate that. I know it's 100x better than any Animal Collective song I've ever heard, but I haven't heard many. Jason The Swamp is brilliant. Particularly his apparent concept album "As Is The Sun" which starts out with some soft acoustic guitar and light whispy singing, which gradually builds until it explodes with some crazy percussion and other sounds i can't identify. This album is built on that surprising period of transition between something really soft and pretty, and something loud & raucous. But it retains it's folky, dreamy qualities throughout. It's a very impressive album.
I'm definitely gonna look up a bunch of that stuff from the OP today, if I can, because I love folk music and (particularly) all of it's bastard incarnations. I listened to some Current 93 once and it didn't really do anythign for me; it was like a weird single or a split or something though, so I don't know if that's indicative of the rest of their music, or not. Plus, that was a while ago, I'm probably a totally different person now.
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Fantastic timing on this thread, I have been wanting to get into Current 93 but his discography is about the size of all the other discographies put together, which is pretty intimidating. Is there a good place in particular to start with his music?
If you want an overview then there's some excellent live recordings. I personally got into C93 through the Cats Drunk on Copper live album which I still think contains some of the most definitive versions of certain songs. For actual albums traditionally accessible points would probably be All The Pretty Little Horses, Thunder Perfect Mind or Soft Black Stars. Soft Black Stars is probably the most accessible, but conversely probably the least representative, as it essentially just Dave Tibet and a piano.
Some Current 93 exemplar songs which show how varied their career has been:
Oh Coal Black Smith! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZNAeNh53yw&feature=related)
Antichrist and Barcodes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebvUO2ucmdk)
Black Ships Ate the Sky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9q1FomLSkw)
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Awesome, I was only into stuff like Rome and Death In June for a while, but I've progressively been getting more and more into this type of music. For instance, I love this Current 93 song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlUOMUcaXWU
What material of theirs is like that?
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I'm a really big fan of Death in June's Rose Clouds of Holocaust. Definitely the best faux-fascist neo-folk breakup album of all time
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I might accept their older records but MPP is more psych-pop than folk.
I guess if we're pissing off Khar here then
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"Of Low Count And Light Pocket" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2DO18uIwVE)
"Dutch Elm" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5adx54VkPE8&feature=related)
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Try Forest. they're from the 60s/70s and their's is a kinda acidy medieval folk. Really weird and wonderful. The link below is for their album Full Circle
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http://www.M/F.com/?c0c17m6uoce7tb3
here is a very good song from that album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfANIXC-3-c
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So Khar, what do you think about 16 horsepower?
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What material of theirs is like that?
Seven Seals is both chronologically and musically pretty much exactly halfway between All The Pretty Little Horses and Soft Black Stars. Songs like that are scattered round the whole discography really.
@ Kai: I find myself increasingly in the But, What Ends When the Symbols Shatter? camp, a place I never thought I'd really be! Btw, have you heard Down in June? They're a band that plays nothing but relaxed, occassionally slightly trip-hoppy occasionally slightly jazzy scandinavian pop covers of Death in June. I upped their album in last years wink wink thread a few months ago but it caused nary a ripple which is ludicrous because it's incredible. If you are a Rome fan (VUK PAGING VUK) then you will cream your fucking pants over this*. It is perfect totenpop, and great because it really exposes what a dang good songwriter Douglas P can be when he's not faffing about with amorphous noise/tone constructions which he's not really suited to at all. Down in June's version of some Di6 tracks (Kameradschaft for example) are actually a ton better than the original. Here are some tracks that have been youtubed:
Little Black Angel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMR-JsFuhO8&feature=related)
The Enemy Within (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaYBbA9WeY0&feature=related)
To Drown a Rose in White...Rose Clouds of Holocaust (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_WpEfL0HeY) (TDaRiW is one of the weakest tracks on the album, but sit through it for the Rose Clouds of Holocaust bonus track, which is so tasty)
*I was kinda going to skirt it to make the thread less broad but I guess broadness is good so we could totally talk a bit about say Rome, Spiritual Front and Ordo Rosarious Equilibrio or whatever. Even though ORE are only my third favourite band whose overly long name begins with the word Ordo!
@Furious Wombat: Man how have I passed over this band? (I think it's because I discover a lot of music through last.fm and Forest is also the name of a black metal band). This is nice!
@Nodaisho: They're ok, I think. I had a couple of their albums downloaded a few years ago but I never bought them or re-downloaded them after my old computer crashed. I'm generally a bit equivocal about the whole 'goth americana' scene. Not that it's bad or anything, just that if I want that kind of mood I'll whack on some psychobilly or Nick Cave. Or, hell, Johnny Cash.
Totally gonna upload some sweet as fuck albums at uni today.
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SERIOUS UPLOADS GO GO GO (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,25859.msg999431.html#msg999431)
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Jason The Swamp
Seconding this.
Also, Chelsea Wolfe (http://www.myspace.com/chelseawolfe).
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Also, Chelsea Wolfe (http://www.myspace.com/chelseawolfe).
Man, no offense, but I'm really struggling to work out why you think this has anything to do with folk music? Like it's not even that bad but why are you posting it in this thread? I'm seriously intrigued.
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i thought it was folky and/or weird?
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i mean i know posting about music in a thread you started was probably dumb on my part but still
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No like why do you think this is folky? I am genuinely interested. Like looking through the myspace only two of these songs even have any acoustic instruments in. One is a straight up electronic song with almost dance beats, others are rock songs. Even the one song that is acoustic guitar and drones isn't really very folky, just a sort of very lo-fi singer-songwriter thing.
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that last one I think you're talking about is Halfsleeper which is the one where I decided I thought she was folky, maybe because it reminded me a lot of Marissa Nadler.
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WAY TO SKIP MY QUESTION DICK
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Man you are not endearing yourself to me at all!
I just posted a load of albums in the MFFFF thread why not start with Looking For Europe and the Current 93 live album?
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@ Kai: I find myself increasingly in the But, What Ends When the Symbols Shatter? camp, a place I never thought I'd really be! Btw, have you heard Down in June? They're a band that plays nothing but relaxed, occassionally slightly trip-hoppy occasionally slightly jazzy scandinavian pop covers of Death in June. I upped their album in last years wink wink thread a few months ago but it caused nary a ripple which is ludicrous because it's incredible. If you are a Rome fan (VUK PAGING VUK) then you will cream your fucking pants over this*. It is perfect totenpop, and great because it really exposes what a dang good songwriter Douglas P can be when he's not faffing about with amorphous noise/tone constructions which he's not really suited to at all. Down in June's version of some Di6 tracks (Kameradschaft for example) are actually a ton better than the original. Here are some tracks that have been youtubed:
Little Black Angel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMR-JsFuhO8&feature=related)
The Enemy Within (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaYBbA9WeY0&feature=related)
To Drown a Rose in White...Rose Clouds of Holocaust (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_WpEfL0HeY) (TDaRiW is one of the weakest tracks on the album, but sit through it for the Rose Clouds of Holocaust bonus track, which is so tasty)
I haven't heard of Down in June, but the premise makes me curious. I'm really digging the version of Little Black Angel. Will have to go dig the album up somewhere.
I know it's not really the same genre at all, but while we're on the subject of Douglas P. anyway, I figure I might as well ask it. Has anyone listened to Crisis, the band that Tony Wakeford and Douglas P. were in before Di6? Is it worth my effort to check out?
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Crisis are actually a pretty good marxist punk band, if you like that sort of thing. Punk77 memorably described them (along with Crass) as signalling 'the end of punk as fun, spontaneity, mischieveness and anarchy (as a way of feeling)'. You can find a lot of stuff by them on youtube. In fact looking around it looks like every single song they ever did might be on there, they don't have a very extensive discography. PC 1984 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu5EhJ5GXHY), White Youth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWMJfuszScw) and No Town Hall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy98BDck8j8) are stand out tracks. Crisis are pretty interesting because they really make the questions about Di^'s politics complicated. Conventional thinking might be that they just flipped political spectrum from hardcore militant left-wingers to hardcore right-wingers, but it's obviously more complicated than that. I think they dabbled with third positionism in the 80's (that's where all the quotes from Douglas P about Ernst Rohm and so on come from, though they're taken out of context), and there's the well known fact that Tony Wakeford was briefly a member of the National Front, which he describes on his website as "probably the worse decision of my life and one I very much regret". To be honest, as someone with experience of the British far-left, particularly the Socialist Workers party I think it represents mostly a process of desperate political disillusionment, a frantic search to find something more nuanced and interesting and escape a dull ghetto of bearded marxist pontificating. They made bad decisions and got into some weird and frankly stupid shit but that sort of politics is a very weird world, and was weirder still back in the 80's, and they obviously recognise the mistakes they made. I've always said that I find it hard to believe anyone who's listened to Di6 and Sol Invictus can honestly think they're nazis. Like, you can cherry pick certain lines from Sol Invictus about disliking capitalism and the media and America (I've seen "Media", "Death of the West" and "Gold is King" used like that) and say "oh it's a code, he means Jews", but he's married to a Jewish woman so you're frankly an idiot. And Death in June make a lot of oblique references to fascist mythology among other things but it's really hard to argue that songs like Heaven Street ("Rifle butts to crush you down/The earth exploding with the gas of bodies") or Lullaby to a Ghetto ("So this is your life, this is your world/A lullaby to a ghetto, where you murder boys and girls") are glorifications of fascism. I think Death in June come closest to explaining their position in the song "C'est Une Reve":
Ou est Klaus Barbie?
Il est dans le couer
Il est dans le couer noir
Liberte
C'est une reve
Translated:
Where is Klaus Barbie?
He is in the heart
He is in the black heart
Freedom
Is a dream
Although of course there is also the fascinating article (http://www.deathinjune.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=70) by Douglas P which explains some facts about what certain Di6 songs and images mean in response to the banning of Di6 albums in Germany, which lead to the darkly ironic revelation that the song 'Rose Clouds of Holocaust' is actually about Douglas P breaking up with his boyfriend in Iceland. Admittedly, I'm fairly sure after a certain point Douglas P (probably under the influence of Boyd Rice, arguably the original inventor of trolling) started using certain imagery deliberately to annoy people, ie. Stewart Home, aka the dude who hates Death in June so much he has written more about Death in June than Death in June has.
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Does Pelt count?
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If the top rated youtube comments are anything to judge SI and Di6's fanbase by, they probably aren't helping Tony Wakeford's reputation any. That actually seems to be common for a lot of folk-influenced music, for some reason. Draws the racists in like flies.
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Any fanbase looks pretty awful if you base it off of the top youtube comments, though.
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@ OWW: I dunno, post some shit!
From what I know of your musical taste there's probably gonna be a pretty big amount of stuff in this vein you will probably like. In fact there is stuff I think just about anyone who likes music will like. Not necessarily aimed at you, here are some choice cuts by some of the most accessible people involved particularly in the modern neofolk milieu, or at least two people I've had a lot of success with getting people to like.
First B'eirth. Dude doesn't like to be called neofolk but if he didn't want that association he shouldn't have done that split with fucking Blood Axis. He makes music which is just exceptionally beautiful. Dude is like a virtuoso player of renaissance stringed instruments who wanders America doing old-school romantic bard shit. He comes in two configurations, there is In Gowan Ring which is more psychy:
Hazel Steps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAx6EMjeGuk)
The Wind That Cracks the Leaves (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llGLGYbRHZo)
Morning's Waking Dream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9vjbTD1usY&feature=related)
To Thrum a Glassy Stem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg_I_UtMKrU)
And there is Birch Book which is some nice singer-songwriterish sort of stuff:
Young Souls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M4UR4d130s&feature=related)
Feet of Clay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGsQb7mBh_w)
Empty Corner of the Page (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4a3qDKamKg)
Wow, that was nice wasn't it? Now here is Matt Howden, another virtuoso (this time violin and cello). His work as a record producer actually makes him, weirdly, one of the most commercially successful dudes in neo-folk. His real heart though is Sieben, which is his solo project which mainly involves him using pedals and such to build up loop upon loop upon layer of gorgeous, powerful, erotic stringed wonderfulness.
Love's Promise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gsbmmIdcwg)
Desire Rite (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrG8v-nYyAw)
Virgin in the Green (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2phXGMDwsI&feature=related)
Ogham on the Hill (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkOOb32pCQw&feature=related)
Also very much worthwhile for TRU FANZ to track down all his many collabs with Tony Wakeford. As well as being a fully paid up member of Sol Invictus on and off they've worked together as Duo Noir, Howden/Wakeford and if my memory serves me well there's more. Plus I'm fairly sure Howden is also in L'Orchestre Noir. What can I say, boy's a genius.
@Nodaisho: Dude, youtube comments. I am fairly active in the neo-folk scene and like yeah, there's some nazis, but no more than there are in black metal. People I've corresponded with and met have run the total spectrum of political and religious beliefs; atheists, anarchists, christians, conservatives, pagans, liberals, communists, primitivists, none of the above. It's a very diverse crowd.
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Pelt was a super-droney acoustic band that Jack Rose was in before he did all his solo guitar stuff. They used a lot of sitar drones, Tibetan singing bowls/bells, and weirdly tuned acoustic guitars, with some American primitive/ragtime thrown in. Pretty dense stuff but I think they might be right on your level.
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Man you are not endearing yourself to me at all!
I just posted a load of albums in the MFFFF thread why not start with Looking For Europe and the Current 93 live album?
:-D
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Any fanbase looks pretty awful if you base it off of the top youtube comments, though.
Yeah, but not as bad. Most bands the top-rated comments are along the line of "[band] rocks, [popular singer] sucks dick", or "[female member of band] is soooo hot". While stupid, that is not nearly as bad as comments about how brown people have ruined England. I'm not surprised that some people say it, but when that is the most popular sentiment, it is disturbing. I just hope that they are 12-year-olds sitting at home on youtube, rather than people actually crazy enough to do anything.
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Actually I'm looking through a load of Death in June videos and most of the top comments are things along the line of "fantastic song", "You guys down there using all the comments... SHUT THE FUCK UP AND ENJOY THE MUSIC OR GET THE FUCK OFF!", "Why do people always have to talk about the political or religious beliefs of a musician?. I think those subjects are nothing compared to the music of Douglas P. The guy's a genius.", "dammit now I kind of like Death In June....I so wanted to dislike him." and so on. There's more arguments about Douglas P being gay than there are about racism, You'll find the same kind of shit in the comments to any black metal video.
Like, compare the membership of the last.fm group Neofolk Against Racism (http://www.last.fm/group/Neofolk+Against+Racism) (1087 members) and Neofolk Against Communism (http://www.last.fm/group/Neofolk+Against+Communism) (46 members).
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I really like Sunken Foal. It's good.
Does Espers belong to your definition of weird folk?
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The first track on that Current 93 live album made me realize that John Balance has an incredible voice, weird how it never occurred to me before
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hey do you mean stuff like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7bHe--mp1g)
new ordinary america
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New ordinary blocked in america.
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Weird, blocked in the UK too so I assumed it was US-only. Where isn't it blocked?
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Weird, blocked in the UK too so I assumed it was US-only. Where isn't it blocked?
Welp Johnny and I are both in Canada so I assume it's not blocked there. For the record it was a Mumford & Sons tune and I was trolling, hard.
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This is possibly the most awesome thing I have heard all year.
Of course it is only the ninth of january, but I actually bought Merriweather Post Pavilion last week, so that's some testament to the awesomeness of this album.
Man, you don't have to try hard to get something more awesome than Animal Collective, who are terribly boring and fake and naff! You should try some Comus, it'll blow your balls off:
Diana (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9rN6YF5J_o)
The Bite (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6rcEshGvyI)
Song to Comus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae5ckJTB5o8)
First Utterance should probably be on my list of things to upload. The 70's produced some brilliant proggy folk, some of it less hippy than others.
Strawbs - The Hangman and the Papist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDDy6qXIWC8) <-- Less hippy. Yes, there was a time and a place when Rick Wakeman was in a progressive folk band and they charted and were allowed to play on television. Culture has been in a tailspin ever since.
<-- Maximum hippy. 2:25: LA LA LA LA LA LA LALALALA LAAA LA LA LA LA LA LAAA LA LALA
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDDy6qXIWC8)
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Weird, blocked in the UK too so I assumed it was US-only. Where isn't it blocked?
Welp Johnny and I are both in Canada so I assume it's not blocked there. For the record it was a Mumford & Sons tune and I was trolling, hard.
Aren't Mumford and Sons a UK band?
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Yes but I do not presume to know the mysterious ways of Vevo
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Serafina Steer!
Serafina Steer (http://hypem.com/#!/search/serafina%20steer/1/) (http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3214/emotallearsb.gif)
It ain't that weird but you know what shut up
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Yes but I do not presume to know the mysterious ways of Vevo
it won't let me play teach me how to dougie anymore, my life is a hollow shell
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Aren't Mumford and Sons a UK band?
They sure are. Having said that, Canada is more than welcome to keep them.
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Hey, you guys want to start an NME-Friendly Gimmick Band thread if you want to talk about that stuff?
Cheers!
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Props to you for trying to get a Coil thread off the ground. Seriously, their work was really brilliant.
More partial to Sol Invictus than Death In June, although the latter have some great songs. I'm especially fond of the very early, experimental stuff ("State Laughter", etc.) in spite of its relative lack of polish. Current 93 are easily my favourite of the "folky" side of the post-industrial whatever, though; Sleep Has His House is pure genius, as is Of Ruine Or Some Blazing Starre, and Hypnogogue... Really, almost anything they've done is at least above average.
However, I must disagree with your assessment of Young God's roster. While not all of it is to my taste, I must give Gira kudos for his sense of aesthetic. That, and his own work, in particular his Swans and Angels Of Light output from 1995-2005 (The Great Annihilator through Everything Is Good Here/Please Come Home). But I digress.
Pelt are quite interesting, if one is so inclined. In the same vein, but far from any normal definition of folk, there is always Jackie-O Motherfucker. A bit like an American Nurse With Wound, but with more live instrumentation. Fig. 5, for an example, is utterly demented.
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I wouldn't have really called Jackie-O Motherfucker folk. Surely if they are, then Sun City Girls also?
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I wouldn't have really called Jackie-O Motherfucker folk. Surely if they are, then Sun City Girls also?
Kind of what I was saying, though, as always, I could have been clearer. The influence is there, albeit more of the Appalachian variety than the European one found underlining most of the groups you'd previously listed. But that's not the key difference; that would be the element of free improvisation-as-composition. Nurse With Wound have it (the Faust influence), but Death In June and their ilk - true to their (post-)punk roots - seem quite averse to it. Which is perfectly cool, but it lends a whole different air to the proceedings.
Ironically, Richard Bishop's solo work does have a certain alien folk quality. Sun City Girls, however, are Sun City Girls, and nothing else.
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"alien folk", now there's a fine genre name.
Might upload some more albums this evening, get this thread rocking again.
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Man, this thread has actually made me really depressed. Like sometimes a dude just wants to talk about music he loves with people he likes, but then everyone either totally ignores everything or starts talking about something completely different.
This thread was a pointless waste of time so I guess now you guys should make it about some post-hardcore band you like or whatever so it actually gets talked in.
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Man, this thread has actually made me really depressed. Like sometimes a dude just wants to talk about music he loves with people he likes, but then everyone either totally ignores everything or starts talking about something completely different.
This thread was a pointless waste of time so I guess now you guys should make it about some post-hardcore band you like or whatever so it actually gets talked in.
Maybe consider the possibility that you don't like good things
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Dude just cold took you out.
Plus, you like Converge, so the argument is pretty much over before it starts yes?
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I like Krauka. "Wierd" is a pretty vague definition, but I think they belong here. Danish band, playing northern european folk music. They build many of their own instruments, and the music is for the most part very rootsy, songs are often extremely simplistic, with only a single repeated melody. They have incorporated both modern instruments (electric bass) and electronic influences into their music as well.
I've seen them live, and they did not perform any songs of their albums, they (along with some people who I know not to be in the band) formed a drum circle around an audience of like 20 people, and after a while some of the drummers started singing or playing flutes. Hearing live drumming/music coming from all directions was actually pretty amazing, made a simplistic beat feel really intricate. They also do proper performances of their songs.
Here is a live video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Te9lFkRVw4&feature=related)
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Man, this thread has actually made me really depressed. Like sometimes a dude just wants to talk about music he loves with people he likes, but then everyone either totally ignores everything or starts talking about something completely different.
This thread was a pointless waste of time so I guess now you guys should make it about some post-hardcore band you like or whatever so it actually gets talked in.
Maybe consider the possibility that you don't like good things
Man whatever Cromagnon is the best thing I've heard this year.
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There is apparently a recently released book about fringe folk (http://www.tinymixtapes.com/features/book-review-seasons-they-change-story-acid-and-psychedelic-folk)
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It's cool that you like this thread and all, but all you're doing now is masturbating to an image of it you found in a recent Hustler.
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It's cool that you're a twazzock and all, but you suck off nine hundred goats a day and support international fascism.
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:mrgreen:
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I'm okay with this.
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I haven't ignored this thread... I've just been off the forum in general! Plus, I don't have a lot to currently contribute that anyone hasn't previously heard of in the whole "weird folk" oeuvre.
I can blather endlessly about what I know, though!
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That is exactly what I would like.
How do you like them Current 93, that play the music?
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Man people on last.fm went mental about that whole thing. It was pretty disgusting actually. Like a lady can't have sex for money then bust some singing chops on a C93 album. What happened to transgression.
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But isn't David Tibet supposed to be a Christian now?
How can he be friends with a sex worker! Jesus would've flipped.
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It's actually really bizarre that I don't have anything to offer this thread, since 'weird folk' is exactly what I like, just not something I actually listen to.
I'd actually second that National Lights album, though it's less weird musically than lyrically; it sounds like folk-rocky love songs until you realize they're about murdering and chopping up and eating yr girlfriend.
I guess the oddest thing I listen to would be Kiss the Anus of a Black Cat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmNIzujuljc).
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I love the Current 93 song on The Seven Seals - "The Song of Solomon and How She Sang it to Me". Probably one of my favourite songs.
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Kiss the Anus of a Black Cat is fucking brilliant. I will always have a soft spot for him anyway because it was his brilliant reimagining of 'Beyond the Tanarian Hills' that first got me to check out Rudimentary Peni. He reminds me a lot of, say, Joy of Nature with a touch of Lux Interna or Pantaleimon, there's that interplay of quite clean guitar and vocals with those massive spacey drones. Very dreamlike atmosphere; I often put on If The Sky Falls, We Shall Catch Larks when I'm smoking. I particularly love the song 'Nihil, as in Nihilism'. I'm still listening to the new album...it takes me ages to get to grips with an album these days, mostly because I can rarely find the time to sit down and give an album a proper listen. I normally listen to music whilst I'm doing something else, or often whilst I'm going to sleep, if it's the right sort of music.
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Khar sometimes I feel like whenever you post the names of a bunch of the bands you listen to there's always one made up name and we're all supposed to guess which one it is.
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How do all the neofolk bands I like have the same accent?
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Khar sometimes I feel like whenever you post the names of a bunch of the bands you listen to there's always one made up name and we're all supposed to guess which one it is.
It's not the one you expect!
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I particularly love the song 'Nihil, as in Nihilism'.
I seriously almost linked to that song. Probably is my favourite.