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Title: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 26 Jul 2012, 00:28
Let's have a thread where we can report on, comment on, muse on, laugh at, despair of, or complain about, the celebration of Adidas, Coca Cola and McDonalds that for some reason is called the Olympic Games.

And I'll start (with a rare double post!):

Of all the errors to happen on the first day of competition of the Olympics (yes, the sports start before the opening!), and of all the countries for it to happen to - the North Korean women's football team was displayed on a screen next to a South Korean flag.  Oops! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18993023)

What price national pride?
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Zingoleb on 26 Jul 2012, 04:53
I've got nothing on the subject other than oh god the logo design is terrible. Seriously, seriously, horribly, terribly terrible.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Patrick on 26 Jul 2012, 04:56
MURRIKAH
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 26 Jul 2012, 05:18
I've got nothing on the subject other than oh god the logo design is terrible. Seriously, seriously, horribly, terribly terrible.

We all said that when it was unveiled.

We also have issues like the statement (on TV by Seb Coe himself) that if you have a ticket and are wearing a Pepsi teeshirt you are likely to be refused entry.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 26 Jul 2012, 05:20
MURRIKAH

The requirement to designate reserved lanes on main roads for Olympic traffic only follows from the fact that in the Atlanta games some athletes missed their events because of traffic jams.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: nobo on 26 Jul 2012, 07:15
As commercial as the Olympics are, I love them. Especially during the opening ceremonies where you see the pride on the athletes faces when they get to represent their countries. Nobody ever hears about Botswana, South Chad, Comoros, or Bhutan, but they all get to walk and carry their flag. Sure, they'll probably get smoked in their competitions, but for some people just getting to compete is enough of a prize.

So while the Americans, Chinese, and Russians battle for who has the most medals, I think it is the other athletes that are much more interesting and praise-worthy.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lines on 26 Jul 2012, 07:24
I really don't give a crap about sports, but for some of the reasons Nobo listed, I really get into watching the Olympics. Especially swimming. The Americans have been doing amazing the past few years, men and women, and I get really excited about it. Other events, I don't mind what country they're from, if they kick ass and keep getting to compete and continue kicking ass, I love watching their progress.

Does anyone tend to just watch specific sports? Or do you guys watch whatever is on/as many events as you can?
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Nikolai on 26 Jul 2012, 08:05
I usually try to catch all the hockey and curling matches that I can...oh wait. Right. Canada only cares about the Winter Games.
Title: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 26 Jul 2012, 14:15
See, that's just it with me, too. Of course, it's probably because of where and when I grew up - the only Olympians I know all played in the Winter games.

Oh, and I loves me some women's curling.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lupercal on 26 Jul 2012, 14:32
Don't forget that the flag of Taiwan was taken down over Regent Street because it might upset the Chinese. It was replaced with the flag of the Chinese Taipei Olympic Committee.

Regent Street Association put it up, Foreign Office had to intervene.

I've only been working in London for a few weeks but the change is quite startling, the biggest problem seems to be the Olympic Zil Lanes which have contrasting signs every fifty yards.

Good to hear that athletes are being sent home after racist tweets, too (Less competition I suppose! (http://www.standard.co.uk/olympics/olympic-news/london-2012-olympics-greek-triple-jumper-voula-papachristou-banned-from-games-for-racist-tweet-7976415.html?origin=internalSearch))

Oh yes - don't bring food, water, children, or unauthorised clothing into the Olympic stadium, or that £400 ticket will be worthless.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: smack that isaiah on 26 Jul 2012, 16:31
That's sad about the Taiwanese flag. 

I love the Olympics.  In the summer I tend to watch whatever is on, but I'm going out of my way to watch fencing.  Unfortunately, the main bulk of the bouts occur from 5:00am to 11:00am where I am, with semifinals/finals around 12:30pm.  So, I'm going to be waking up really really early on the weekends and watch a ton of fencing.  For the weekdays, I'll wake up a few hours earlier and watch a bit before going to work. 

In the winter I try to watch everything, making sure to catch hockey.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Omega Entity on 26 Jul 2012, 18:45
For me, it's almost always been about gymnastics in the summer, and figure skating in the winter.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lines on 26 Jul 2012, 19:13
For summer I almost always watch swimming and gymnastics. For the 2008 games, I also watched a lot of beach volleyball because it was on during the afternoon and I had no job at that point. (Also I slept in until 12 because I was up late playing WoW, so I missed all of the morning events. Hooray joblessness?) And sometimes I watch field events because it's crazy.

I think I do watch more of the winter events, but that's because events involving ice are pretty dang awesome.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: valley_parade on 26 Jul 2012, 22:17
Nobody ever hears about Botswana, South Chad, Comoros, or Bhutan, but they all get to walk and carry their flag. Sure, they'll probably get smoked in their competitions, but for some people just getting to compete is enough of a prize.

The NBC announcers always love mentioning "The Central African Republic...which is a republic in central Africa."
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 26 Jul 2012, 22:39
Heading down to Surrey this evening to watch the Road Races. Men's on Saturday and Women's on Sunday. Decided not to get fleeced for tickets to Box Hill we're going to catch it headed out, pick up a spot on the Box Hill loop outside the ticked area to watch the racers do circuits and then attempt to ride back to my parents in time to watch them race up The Mall on telly. Very excited to see if the British team can follow up on the success at the Tour de France (and the Tour of Poland). Wish I could grow some sideburns before tomorrow.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Carl-E on 27 Jul 2012, 06:37
Paste oN some false ones? 
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Barmymoo on 27 Jul 2012, 09:35
Aha! I thought I had seen an Olympic football match at the restaurant last night, but I was very confused. I won't be watching much, I expect, partly since I haven't yet figured out how to use Edith's TV, but also because I'm not all that interested in sports. I'll be following along on the news though, to see who is winning etc.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 27 Jul 2012, 13:52
England is apparently leading Senegal 1-nil in men's football at Old Trafford at the moment.

You know, I really don't understand why NBC isn't showing the opening ceremony in real time on one of their sister networks, while they can show the tape delay on the main network during prime time.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Carl-E on 27 Jul 2012, 13:59
I'm sure it has something stupid to do with broadcast rights. 
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 27 Jul 2012, 19:16
Gotta love some of the athletes from Kazakhstan holding up their iPads to record their walk into the stadium.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Blue Kitty on 27 Jul 2012, 20:24
Man that giant baby was creepy
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: bainidhe_dub on 27 Jul 2012, 20:27
I heard... somewhere, probably NPR... that NBC is playing all the matches live online if not on TV, but if you miss it you have to wait for the highlight reels later. I guess they decided to consolidate the opening ceremony audience. I only watched a bit of the opening ceremony, from about 2 minutes in (after the industrial drudges started pouring out of Mt. Doom/the faerie ring) til a bit after the rings flew up into the air on the power of a thousand gerbs. It was... about how the radio said it was. Very British-history and rather movie-ish. The hundred-strong extra-neon Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band was kinda weird out of the middle of coal dust and nowhere. It was pretty spectacular (in the theatrical sense of the word, that my damn professors lodged in my head during Torino I think) especially since I was half-drunk.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 27 Jul 2012, 20:30
Sorry, but I loved the whole James Bond/Queen Elizabeth clip.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lupercal on 28 Jul 2012, 03:01
Yeah, I liked the whole thing. I was in a pub in Holborn watching the ceremony, and semi-drunkenly joked that the jigging nurses were pretty much exactly like the real NHS nurses. Ha ha ha!

Oh wait, there's a fucking huge NHS sign now. Maybe they were actually serious about that...

James Bond, Mr Bean, Paul McCartney, some big internationally recognisable faces (plus Mike Oldfield). Afterwards the commentators were saying it was "very British humour", as if nobody else was going to understand it. I'm sure Boyle made it as easy to "understand" as possible.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: LTK on 28 Jul 2012, 03:52
Yeah, I liked the whole thing. I was in a pub in Holborn watching the ceremony, and semi-drunkenly joked that the jigging nurses were pretty much exactly like the real NHS nurses. Ha ha ha!

Oh wait, there's a fucking huge NHS sign now. Maybe they were actually serious about that...
Yeap, you got it, according to the Dutch commentator, the dancers are all employed as nurses at the NHS!

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James Bond, Mr Bean, Paul McCartney, some big internationally recognisable faces (plus Mike Oldfield). Afterwards the commentators were saying it was "very British humour", as if nobody else was going to understand it. I'm sure Boyle made it as easy to "understand" as possible.
Yes, 'British humour' insofar that it involves the British and it's humorous...
Title: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 28 Jul 2012, 04:11
I believe there were a lot of US watchers who had NFC about who or what Brannagh was playing in the first part of the OC. I picked up the imagery right away - he was playing a "John Bull"- like character.

Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 28 Jul 2012, 04:36
Isambard Kingdom Brunel.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 28 Jul 2012, 09:27
No fair, you have the home-field advantage. :P
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Silentbanksy on 28 Jul 2012, 09:52
I love how damn British the queen is. (As much as she's er... Not...) She just sat there looking miserable throughout the entire thing, probably the highlight of the games for me. Or the fact we're trying to show other countries how great we are by demonstrating the horrors of both hospitals and our history.

Damn, we ARE a misery bunch.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 28 Jul 2012, 11:00
No fair, you have the home-field advantage. :P

And my degree is in Engineering, so he's a bit of a worship figure for me.  And my wife said that if we had been able to have a child, she would have called him Isambard, just for the pleasure of shouting that name in the park!

She just sat there looking miserable throughout the entire thing,

And when she declared the games open, she sounded proper fed up, I felt.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Omega Entity on 28 Jul 2012, 13:34
Oh geez, I forgot Equestrian! Dressage is not very exciting (though freestyle is fun). But cross country and show jumping are a lot of fun - but maybe that's just because I used to jump on horseback before.

Kind of a neat story : http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympics--japanese-equestrian-defies-father-time-as-oldest-competitor-at-london-olympics.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympics--japanese-equestrian-defies-father-time-as-oldest-competitor-at-london-olympics.html)
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Silentbanksy on 28 Jul 2012, 16:14

Anything that tries to capture Britishness is an instant failure. It's almost a universal law!

That's the point! Everything in Britain is a little bit broken, but it has character so we like it!
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Patrick on 28 Jul 2012, 18:12
Idunno I mean you've had some pretty solid musical output over the last 50 years.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 28 Jul 2012, 19:51
And much of it from that old guy they pushed out on stage at the end.

I hear he was in a band once.

(Or twice.)
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Zingoleb on 29 Jul 2012, 01:35
I usually don't watch TV but when the Olympics came on I sat down and turned on the television

there was some British person who did a lot of things that were rather impressive and he got a medal

and then Snape killed Dumbledore.

I mean, the Olympics were on, but so was Harry Potter. There's been dozens of Olympics! Only one Harry Potter, though.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Patrick on 29 Jul 2012, 03:21
And much of it from that old guy they pushed out on stage at the end.

I hear he was in a band once.

(Or twice.)

Oh you mean that guy from Wings right
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lines on 29 Jul 2012, 08:55
Watched a bit of Women's volleyball yesterday. One of the girls on the American team is 6'7" and yes she blocked freaking everything and holy crap she's 6'7".
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lupercal on 29 Jul 2012, 09:31
Wait, I forget. Did he write Bohemian Rhapsody or Mull of Kintyre?

Wasn't it Layla?

I'm just glad the ceremony didn't have some huge inflatable Noel Fielding in it or something.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Zingoleb on 29 Jul 2012, 09:59
Watched a bit of Women's volleyball yesterday. One of the girls on the American team is 6'7" and yes she blocked freaking everything and holy crap she's 6'7".

yeah this has been known to happen
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Carl-E on 29 Jul 2012, 10:17
Wait, I forget. Did he write Bohemian Rhapsody or Mull of Kintyre?

Wasn't it Layla?

No, it was Lola (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVXmMMSo47s), wasn't it? 

"L-O-L-A, Lo-ola!"
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 29 Jul 2012, 10:50
Let's ban cyclists from going near the Olympic games (http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/voices/2012/07/olympic-spirit).
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 29 Jul 2012, 11:36
Wait, I forget. Did he write Bohemian Rhapsody or Mull of Kintyre?

Something about Silly Love Songs.

Romanians are kicking but and taking names against the UK in Water Polo at the moment.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 29 Jul 2012, 11:40
Let's ban cyclists from going near the Olympic games (http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/voices/2012/07/olympic-spirit).

Wait, I thought this was the UK, not China?

Kinda glad my ancestors on my mom's side got outta town two centuries ago.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 29 Jul 2012, 11:46
Wait, I forget. Did he write Bohemian Rhapsody or Mull of Kintyre?

Scrambled Eggs (working title...)
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Barmymoo on 29 Jul 2012, 12:07
I thought the Queen looked like she was about to cry - either from how off-key the children's choir was, or how moving a sentiment they were expressing. One or the other.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Silentbanksy on 29 Jul 2012, 13:10
I think it's clear the Queen was expecting Rammstein, and was very disappointed with the deaf children and Arctic Monkeys.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Barmymoo on 29 Jul 2012, 13:19
The more I think about the Michael Phelps interview thing, the more it puzzles me. The NBC broadcast was recorded, not live, and I can attest that they edited in a whole lot of commercial breaks. Why, if they absolutely needed an inane chat with a swimmer who wasn't even involved in the opening ceremony and who said nothing that wasn't repeated by the commentators when the ceremony came back on, didn't they just add it in as well? I feel like it was a conscious choice to edit out the 7/7 tribute.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 29 Jul 2012, 16:03
I'm thinking the same thing. I pointed out elsewhere that it was the UK equivalent of Jordin Sparks singing "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" over a tribute to 9/11 victims - though even the London 2012 event guide says it wasn't a tribute to any particular person or time.

One thing I wanna ask others - am I the only one who is having shop.london2012.com redirect automatically to www.teamusashop.com?
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: bainidhe_dub on 29 Jul 2012, 16:19
No, it showed the London 2012 banner for like half a second and then redirects. Looks like they have the London stuff here: http://www.teamusashop.com/Olympics_USA_London_2012
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Omega Entity on 29 Jul 2012, 16:47
Mine tried. But Firefox asked me permission for the redirect before it did so.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 29 Jul 2012, 17:44
See, that's the thing - I want to order the "Official Programme", but apparently you can't outside of the UK.

Unless, of course, you want to go on eBay. Which I don't.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 29 Jul 2012, 17:49
Just checked the stuff in FF where you can stop redirects, and it's STILL doing it.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Omega Entity on 29 Jul 2012, 17:57
Huh. I have to click 'Allow' before it redirects for me. Did you try clearing he cache so that it needs to reload the page entirely?
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: bainidhe_dub on 29 Jul 2012, 18:04
You do happen to know a bunch of people who ARE in the UK though...
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 29 Jul 2012, 18:22
Yes, but I don't know if this is something that you can easily 1.) purchase somewhere in the UK and 2.) send to a US address.

And there is that thing about $/£ conversion and whatnot.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 29 Jul 2012, 18:23
I don't get it - the "warn when a page attempts to redirect me" box is checked. What else am I missing?
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 29 Jul 2012, 18:56
On topic: Tonnes of Empty Seats Prompt Protests (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19031974)

Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: lepetitfromage on 29 Jul 2012, 19:34
For me, it's almost always been about gymnastics in the summer, and figure skating in the winter.

ditto.

and then Snape killed Dumbledore.

Hah! This sums up my viewing of the Olympics. I like it, but it takes a while to get into (probably because I'm not a big sports person) and I have tv ADHD when I'm watching- unless it's SVU or NCIS.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 29 Jul 2012, 22:50
On topic: Tonnes of Empty Seats Prompt Protests (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19031974)

Thus confirming yet again that from the point of view of the organisers these games are all about the sponsors, who in turn aren't that interested in the sport.
Title: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 30 Jul 2012, 01:58
Thus making the choice of Brannagh's character in the opening somewhat ironic, no?
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: blanktom on 30 Jul 2012, 04:06
No fair, you have the home-field advantage. :P

And my degree is in Engineering, so he's a bit of a worship figure for me.  And my wife said that if we had been able to have a child, she would have called him Isambard, just for the pleasure of shouting that name in the park!


Completely unrelated to the thread, but I'm currently dating a girl who is maternally descended from Isambard Kingdom Brunel, and she couldn't understand why I thought that was so awesome.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Carl-E on 30 Jul 2012, 06:27
How the hell did that come up?  If she didn't understand it's awesomeness, why did she even mention it? 
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Skaltura on 30 Jul 2012, 06:49
I really liked the men's sabre fighting yesterday. While épée and foil can be a bit slow and cautious, Sabre is all about ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK!. Really cool.

There was also a hilarious joke by the German commentator, Romanian fencer Rareș Dumitrescu (4th place) did this weird twirling thing with his weapon, and this defensively useless technique was dubbed the "Romanian windmill". :D
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Patrick on 30 Jul 2012, 10:28
Wait, I forget. Did he write Bohemian Rhapsody or Mull of Kintyre?

Scrambled Eggs (working title...)
I'm so glad I get that one.
Oh my baby how I love your legs.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lupercal on 30 Jul 2012, 12:23
So apparently GBR have a rivalry with Argentina.

Good thing we're smashing them at hockey right now.

(Travel Update: my regular trains are less busy than normal, fewer people at the stations themselves. That's actually quite nice, can't help but think there was a lot of media scaremongering suggesting we weren't going to be able to breathe on the Tube)
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Silentbanksy on 30 Jul 2012, 15:02
USA Vs  North Korea tomorrow, anyone else hoping for a fight?  :evil:
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: smack that isaiah on 30 Jul 2012, 15:55
I really liked the men's sabre fighting yesterday. While épée and foil can be a bit slow and cautious, Sabre is all about ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK!. Really cool.

I'm the exact opposite, I think.  I find sabre boring cause of the constant attack! mentality.  Right off the go both fencers advance lunge.  simultaneous, no points.  after two or three of those one guy decides to take a half step, parry and riposte.  he gets the point.  then back to the simultaneous. 

That being said, the semis & finals yesterday were quite interesting 'cause they didn't follow the simple pattern I outlined above (the rounds of 64 thru quarterfinals, however...).  team sabre can also be interesting 'cause of the added strategy from fencing as a part of the whole team

I also tend to find epee boring to watch 'cause it's too passive when you're not in the last minute of the match.  Foil is perfect for me--strategic play without being all offense or all defense (it's also what I fence).

Today in women's individual epee there was a HUGE travesty in the semifinals
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Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 30 Jul 2012, 16:50
That wasn't a travesty, it was over-the-top stupidity.

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Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Skaltura on 31 Jul 2012, 07:03
I didn't watch that match, only getting a glimpse of the aftermath (discussions between all the officials), but I've to admit I felt really bad for the Korean lady when she started crying, athletes shouldn't be punished for mistakes made by officials and and judges. It is worth noting though that the German media seems in no way inclined to question the decision because Heidemann won the first medal for her country, up until then some strongly worded articles about the failures of athletes and no medals won appeared, quite typically German I have to say.

Additionally there were MANY more irregularities that day, Japan only won their silver medal in (M) Gymnastics through protesting their score, bumping Ukraine to ungrateful fourth. The judging at the females weightlifting (53 kg and 58 kg) seemed completely arbitrary, sometimes failing attempts for rotating barbells, sometimes not. It's a bit disappointing actually. Makes one long for the competitions where a solid metric (speed/distance) can be applied without having to rely on seemingly all too fallible judges.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Patrick on 31 Jul 2012, 11:53
quite typically German I have to say.

Uhhh, wat
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Silentbanksy on 31 Jul 2012, 13:17
If you buy a drink on an Olympic venue, like a Coke or a Sprite, they remove the caps and then give you the drink. You're not allowed bottle lids, as they are a "throwing nuisance"

The bottles are fine though.

:l
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Blue Kitty on 31 Jul 2012, 13:34
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m81k5xg7Hm1qa1vq7o1_500.png)
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A timing error in the last second of the bout led to a 20-minute delay and a controversial decision in the women’s individual épée semifinal today between South Korean Shin A Lam and German Britta Heidemann, one that has the Korean refusing to leave the piste.

With one second remaining in the match, Heidemann needed to score a touch on Shin to win the match. (Shin would have advanced if they finished the round tied.) The clock then got stuck, allowing Heidemann several extra seconds to score, which she did. Officials then congregated for a long time discussing their options before finally awarding the win (and a chance at the gold medal) to the German.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: LTK on 31 Jul 2012, 13:37
If you buy a drink on an Olympic venue, like a Coke or a Sprite, they remove the caps and then give you the drink. You're not allowed bottle lids, as they are a "throwing nuisance"

The bottles are fine though.

:l
I hear the same practice is used at the local summer festivals. To my sister they said that a bottle with a cap is more dangerous when you hit someone on the head with it. To the people working at the bar they say that if you give the bottle without a cap, the customer can't put it in their bag when it's full, or store tap water in it after they're empty, thereby encouraging them to buy more soft drinks instead. Rumours? Excuses? Corporate malice? I don't know, you be the judge.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: valley_parade on 31 Jul 2012, 14:48
If you buy a drink on an Olympic venue, like a Coke or a Sprite, they remove the caps and then give you the drink. You're not allowed bottle lids, as they are a "throwing nuisance"

The bottles are fine though.

:l

Olympics, concerts, sporting events..that's pretty standard practice, now.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Zingoleb on 31 Jul 2012, 14:51
If you buy a drink on an Olympic venue, like a Coke or a Sprite, they remove the caps and then give you the drink. You're not allowed bottle lids, as they are a "throwing nuisance"

The bottles are fine though.

:l

When I saw Rammstein (amusing how you mentioned them in the other post, and now I'm here. Who's gonna bring them up next page?) they didn't even give you the bottle! They poured it into a styrofoam cup and gave that to you.

In hindsight, even that is dumb, 'cause if you throw it by the top so it spins around, it's still got a pretty good weight to it and now it also  splashes a drink everywhere.

"I'm sorry! The dude was on fire, and I panicked!"
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 31 Jul 2012, 16:24
NBC major fail example #527, from Wil "the birthday boy" Wheaton's tumblr (http://wilwheaton.tumblr.com/post/28430012353/are-you-fucking-kidding-me-nbc-via-reddit)
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lupercal on 01 Aug 2012, 00:20
Whenever I take the tube (which is, admittedly, not very often) I avoid breathing anyway! :D

Damn there are some disgusting people on the Tube. Also a lot of people who sleep standing up. I've developed a cold partly from some disgusting motherfucker not washing their hands, and also from me not washing my hands. Breathing is bad around a few hundred other people, m'kay?

That NBC thing is a joke. I'm guessing they're not showing sports in "real time", probably understandably. But I'm pretty surprised about their whole operation generally (they have quite a few hundred more presenters than the UK does too...)

The GB gymnastics team were just beaten to the Silver by the Japanese. We put on a pretty much flawless performance (high 15 on the pummel horse, excellent stuff) and Japan had two of their guys fall off and have early dismounts. They were of couse, penalised for this. Then they inquired into it, the judges decided that the dismount was a "landing", not a "fall". But it doesn't really matter, it's the first medal we've had in gymnastics since the Olympics in 1912 (where we also won bronze!)
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Patrick on 01 Aug 2012, 01:10
Congratulations to Michael Phelps for having good teammates
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: bainidhe_dub on 01 Aug 2012, 05:48
I know Phelps broke the record for Olympic medals yesterday, but does anybody else feel like it's a little early to start calling him "the greatest Olympian of all time" or whatever the announcer said last night?
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lines on 01 Aug 2012, 07:23
I mean, he's definitely one of the best swimmers, but I wouldn't say he tops all other Olympic athletes of all time.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Blue Kitty on 01 Aug 2012, 08:03
NBC major fail example #527, from Wil "the birthday boy" Wheaton's tumblr (http://wilwheaton.tumblr.com/post/28430012353/are-you-fucking-kidding-me-nbc-via-reddit)

What I found even funnier was the VISA commercial that played after Michael Phelps got second place in his swim talking about how he might be getting gold medals.

Also, corruption in badminton? Really? It's fucking badminton.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Patrick on 01 Aug 2012, 10:22
I like how as soon as a 16yo Chinese girl whomped ass in the women's 200m IM race, first thing NBC's announcer says is something involving "now of course there's going to be suspicion and she will be subject to blah blah rigorous drug/doping test" and "breakthroughs are common in sporting events but so is doping" and all kinds of super accusatory-sounding shit. Come on, NBC, are you fucking serious
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: idontunderstand on 01 Aug 2012, 13:19
As soon as the Chinese win there will be accusations. I'm not convinced at all that it's justified.. the other day this 15-year old Latvian won and there were no accusations. No one accuses the USA of doping (at least not regularly) despite some very famous incidents.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 02 Aug 2012, 00:25
I don't think that it's accusations being levelled just because the swimmer is Chinese. I'd heard of the "unbelievable performance" without reference to the nationality and thought that it warranted suspicion. Although I did find out about the nationality when looking further into it, it was still the basic and seeming anomalous facts of the performance that maintained that suspicion. It was the full context of events that justified the performance as natural, however it would have been disingenuous not to consider doping as a potential reason. Innocent until proven guilty doesn't mean we absent suspicion altogether.

Of course I caveat this as coming from a person who's almost sole sporting interest is in cycling where sudden and unexpected performances are very often key indicators of doping. I accept that it isn't easy to directly transliterate that to other sporting activities. With regards to the very forward vocalisation of doping concerns. That might be partly due to the combination of concerns of the integrity of the sport and defeat of vicarious ambitions in an emotional moment. That the first and easiest justification of an anomalous athletic performance is often doping says a lot about the current state of sport overall, not just racist attitudes towards other countries. Doping very easily wrecks the integrity of a sport that it is found in and, as any fan of cycling will know, can lead to any win of any order rousing suspicions. Sadly it can take a lot for the balance of evidence in favour of clean racing to be accepted by the masses.

As for not accusing the USA of doping? If I were a commentator, I would be cautious about externally voicing suspicions of any American athlete without the backing  of substantial evidence. That's more to do with the perception of the US litigation culture than anything else though.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Skewbrow on 03 Aug 2012, 02:46
Re: Doping.

The athletes who use performance enhancing drugs often get caught nowadays. If not right away, then later, when the good guys learn exactly what chemicals to look for. My son just told me that a Belorussian hammer thrower has just been caught like that. He will probably lose his olympic gold from 2004 and the world championship won in 2005. Not official yet, but WADA has the right to deepfreeze the samples and perform more tests later on. If confirmed, this case should act as a deterrent.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: LTK on 04 Aug 2012, 02:45
Speaking of world-class athletic performances, here's a write-up of ultramarathon runner Cliff Young (http://www.badassoftheweek.com/young.html), who started competing at age 61. You're all still reading Badass of the Week, right?
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Akima on 04 Aug 2012, 07:45
As soon as the Chinese win there will be accusations. I'm not convinced at all that it's justified.. the other day this 15-year old Latvian won and there were no accusations. No one accuses the USA of doping (at least not regularly) despite some very famous incidents.
With regard to all the weaselly smearing remarks being aimed at Ye Shiwen, I am reminded of Pope's famous lines about Addison:

"Damn with faint praise, assent with civil leer
And, without sneering, teach the rest to sneer;
Willing to wound, and yet afraid to strike,
Just hint a fault, and hesitate dislike."


I hope they feel really proud of so loudly and publicly pissing on the head of a 16-year-old girl. Suppose she's completely innocent; are they proud of forever tainting her achievement? What heroes! What sportsmanship! If this is what the Olympic spirit means, let's call the whole thing off. A Chinese swimmer wins? Call her a cheat, in weaselly words so that you can pretend you didn't. If she tests negative? Oh that just means she'll be caught a few years down the track "when the good guys learn exactly what chemicals to look for". It is essentially impossible to prove innocence. I mean, seriously, why bother?

That's more to do with the perception of the US litigation culture than anything else though.
So basically, if Chinese athletes are going to get some respect, they should start throwing lawsuits around. :(

In the case of the Korean fencer, I'm not quite sure how the organisers justify giving someone a win this way. Something else for the Olympics to be proud of. Maybe Korean athletes should start throwing lawsuits around too. :(

(http://i.thestar.com/images/44/fc/cc3a5c774f1785244eb35d23bf72.jpg)
I wonder who the goon in the cheap suit man-handling Ms. Shin is?
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: idontunderstand on 04 Aug 2012, 10:04
Probably just that. A goon.

Very well said by the way. They really won't let "innocent before proven otherwise" rule. That being said, a lot of Chinese swimmers HAVE been caught and of course standard testing is warranted. I just don't see why the comments must go in this direction.. but maybe I'm expecting too much from sport commentators.

A couple of quotes from the Swedish broadcasts:

"Here we see a happy Chinese. A happy chinese is a very happy person!" (dunno what they meant really.. just sounded stupid and vaguely racist)

"Here stands a small, confused Japanese!" (about this Japanese male gymnast star. Maybe not racist but definitely condescending.)

I usually just turn of the sound...
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Skewbrow on 04 Aug 2012, 10:06
Khrm. I may have created some false impressions, so let me state a few things for the record. I am not suspecting any swimmer, Chinese or American at this time. I was just delighted that a cheat (who had been caught earlier, had served a suspension, came back still winning) was caught, if only 8 years afterwards, and hopefully his achievements will be erased from the official records.

Let's not name any athletes as this is understandably a touchy subject.

I am not happy with the way US media handles this. In the 80s the same people who were pointing fingers at East German girls (about the same age as this Chinese girl) for steroid use, were simultaneously hero-worshipping NHL/NFL-players who more or less openly gulped anabolics and/or other stuff.

I am not happy with the way our media (or anyone else's) handles it. We had been calling Norwegian Xcountry-skiers cheats for their use of asthma medication in the 90s (come on, if you suffer from asthma, you are not participating in endurance events?). But lo and behold, our entire team was caught using drugs that cover the use of EPO ten years later.  :psyduck: The nation has still not recovered from the shame.

A full team of Chinese female track stars (endurance events) disappeared from the scene at one point. Curiously at about the same time as new tests were announced. Their coaching staff had several advisors from East Germany. Mostly hearsay?

A few years back American sprint runners started tattling on each other, which lead to some suspensions, and obviously also litigation. Several were never caught, but a shadow was cast as other athletes under the wing of the same coach were caught.

The weight classes for weightlifting have been redefined (may be twice already?) for the sole purpose to erase the old world records from the books. In other words, they admitted that the old records were most likely achieved by cheats who never got caught.

I may be a pessimist, but I still suspect that not all get caught. Judging from what I have read the testers now think that they are ahead in the game, but that is a recent change. Before that the cheats were ahead, because doing minor alterations to some drugs made them invisible to tests without culling their effectiveness.

Because nations compete and want to win, this is unavoidable. The athletes get caught in the middle. Sometimes they don't really have a choice whether to take a drug or not. Happens in totalitarian countries, but also in the so called free countries it may easily happen that a shady coach or somebody else can influence some eager youngsters so that they cross the line.

I hope Ye Shiwen is innocent. It is sad that the OG is so far away from the original spirit that accusations will fly. It is sad that she is caught in the middle of this, but nowadays that cannot be helped!! Large nations compete for supremacy and lesser nations for their share of the glory. Innocent and guilty people alike are caught in it.

Summary: This is nothing new. This kind of rumors should not have come as a surprise to anyone involved. It is sad that young people cannot just have fun competing, but them's the breaks.

The  ancient Greek olympics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Olympic_Games) were not free of similar power struggles and accusations between competing city-states. IIRC one of the reasons they were discontinued was that the games became too political.

I do prefer nations competing at Olympic Games as a kind of substitute to a war.



Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lines on 04 Aug 2012, 11:00
In the case of the Korean fencer, I'm not quite sure how the organisers justify giving someone a win this way. Something else for the Olympics to be proud of. Maybe Korean athletes should start throwing lawsuits around too. :(

(http://i.thestar.com/images/44/fc/cc3a5c774f1785244eb35d23bf72.jpg)

I heard about this and thought it was pretty pathetic. Honestly I thought it sounded like they were favoring the other fencer.

I don't know what it is about these games, things just seem weird. The fencing, the Chinese swimmer, the badminton, and the stupid new rules for gymnastics and among other things just make things seem so fishy. I don't remember this going on in 2008.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Skewbrow on 04 Aug 2012, 13:54
But for my money track & (in particular) field events are the most awaited events. Today has been a good day for the host nation.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Akima on 04 Aug 2012, 14:56
They really won't let "innocent before proven otherwise" rule.
Certainly not where Ye Shiwin is concerned, but when Michael Phelps won his 19th medal, did the Chinese coach immediately rush out and publicly brand him a doper and cheat? Oh, but he's clean you say? You mean he's passed the drug tests. So has Ye. It is very hard not to see a double-standard here.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 04 Aug 2012, 15:36
Ms. Shin, by the way, did finally win a Silver in Team epee with her South Korean team.

If the IOC and LOCOG had an ounce of integrity, they'd give her two.

BTW: The timekeeper that screwed up the match where she lost the appeal was only... fifteen. There is not a facepalm big enough on the internet for that.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: amok on 05 Aug 2012, 04:33
I don't know what it is about these games, things just seem weird. The fencing, the Chinese swimmer, the badminton, and the stupid new rules for gymnastics and among other things just make things seem so fishy. I don't remember this going on in 2008.

There have been some pretty shocking decisions in any of the sports involving judges. A couple of the boxing matches have been such a joke that even the elderly BBC commentators have been moved to raise their voice a decibel or two.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19095408

And there was another fella who got knocked down five times and still 'won.'

Take out all the sports that can't be adjudicated by a computer before Rio.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lupercal on 05 Aug 2012, 07:22
Certainly has been a great day for Team GB.

Very proud. So much pressure on these individuals (in all cases and countries) but it is great to see them perform so well. Especially when people keep talking about Beijing like it was a week ago - it was four years ago! What did we all do and act like four years ago? It seems like a long time to keep up olympian standards of your respective sport.

We had a brilliant night last night. Shame the GB Olympic football team - again, out on penalties. Overpaid footballers seem about as far away from the olympic ideals as possible really. Now we're just a nation relying on Andy Murray (again) to do something spectacular - although he does have at least a silver medal in mixed doubles and men's singles. 

Does it not seem strange that Ye Shiwin's win was marked in controversy, whereas 15 year old Katie Ledecky's win in the 800m freestyle was just seen as a great accomplishment? Nobody decided Ledecky was using drugs, having beat the American record for the race along with the defending Olympic champion and holder of the word record time (Rebecca Adlington).
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Skaltura on 05 Aug 2012, 08:23
Federer got kinda owned by Murray just now, I'm really happy for the Brit but Roger never really felt present in the match today, he seemed tired to me. I don't really see him staying in the game until Rio 2016 to get another shot at this.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Patrick on 05 Aug 2012, 13:02
The US men's medley relay team captain was PISSED when NBC asked him what it meant to him to have Michael Phelps on his team. lololololol
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lupercal on 05 Aug 2012, 15:06
Federer got kinda owned by Murray just now, I'm really happy for the Brit but Roger never really felt present in the match today, he seemed tired to me. I don't really see him staying in the game until Rio 2016 to get another shot at this.

Federer is brilliant indoors - the roof was off and it was Murray's game. Plus he won Wimbledon and had come off of a hard year, I think. He can't win them all! Federer will be what, mid thirties in Rio? He's more likely to go for the grand slams between now and then and maybe let another Swiss champ go for gold in the next olympics.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 07 Aug 2012, 01:27
You mean he's passed the drug tests. So has Ye. It is very hard not to see a double-standard here.

Oh, look - someone took drugs by mistake (http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/06/judoka-nick-delpopolo-axed-from-games-for-weed/?adid=hero5)!
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Patrick on 07 Aug 2012, 01:34
Weed is a "performance enhancing drug" now? I didn't know art was an Olympic sport  :psyduck:
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 07 Aug 2012, 01:42
Weed is a "performance enhancing drug" now?

Probably just the opposite, in fact - but rules is rules, I guess.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Patrick on 07 Aug 2012, 02:19
Did they really have to call em "baked" goods though, I mean yeah, I get it, we're talking about marijuana and brownies, good one guys
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: idontunderstand on 07 Aug 2012, 04:38
In small quantities, it can actually be performance enhancing. Tons of bodybuilders use it as a means to relax in order to shorten the recovery period.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Skewbrow on 07 Aug 2012, 05:26
Weed is a "performance enhancing drug" now? I didn't know art was an Olympic sport  :psyduck:

Well, earlier  it was.  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Olympic_medalists_in_art_competitions)

My boss's grandfather won a literature gold medal in '36. The practice of awarding arts medals ended after the previous London games in '48.

AFAIK they didn't do doping tests at that time. That winning story was about a dude who took up long-distance running to cure himself from alcoholism. Don't know whether it was from personal experience. In that case we could call it a chemically enhanced performance I guess.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lupercal on 07 Aug 2012, 06:45
Breaking news: Olympics is like Nazi Germany, says ageing butthurt singer who still thinks people care about what he has to say (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/london-2012-morrissey-attacks-blustering-jingoism-of-the-olympics-and-compares-atmosphere-to-nazi-germany-8014850.html?fb_action_ids=10150975344974071%2C10151087758277118%2C4416656894830&fb_action_types=news.reads&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%2210150975344974071%22%3A10151083682983656%2C%2210151087758277118%22%3A10151009595357991%2C%224416656894830%22%3A10151146148081197%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210150975344974071%22%3A%22news.reads%22%2C%2210151087758277118%22%3A%22news.reads%22%2C%224416656894830%22%3A%22news.reads%22%7D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D#access_token=AAADWQ6323IoBAOa36iOy0ZBnwXxwf0RC7wQBSw5CjzfprcfH6neFgrv3aPQlZBrtgToza34xeWOZA4SBAsTlCw3OmBZBQF2ZAXcnRbdMNeZA6YU4yDvHDN&expires_in=4748)
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 07 Aug 2012, 07:48
I have a lot of sympathy for that view.  I find the jingoism distasteful - it feels like leapfrogging on the athletes' achievements and claiming them for "their country".
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Patrick on 07 Aug 2012, 10:06
The Olympics are a much more acceptable form of nationalist pride than, say, genocide. While I 100% agree with Morrissey's side of the debate, I think he could have made a much better example. He simply sounds like a U.S. Tea Partier when he flips out and goes straight to Hitler like that.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Skaltura on 08 Aug 2012, 02:52
Oh London ... men's discus throwing champion Robert Harting (GER) got robbed on the way from a late night party back to the Olympic village, they stole his equipment and all his athlete's accreditations and he had to spend the night sleeping on a chair in a rail station because getting a replacement took hours and they would not let the olympic champion back into any venues or the Olympic village. :psyduck:
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Akima on 08 Aug 2012, 06:41
I have a lot of sympathy for that view.  I find the jingoism distasteful - it feels like leapfrogging on the athletes' achievements and claiming them for "their country".
Well... Arguably the "totalitarian model" of the Olympics has triumphed. State funding (whether from taxation, or government-approved crypto-taxes like national lotteries) is poured like a river into the quest for sporting glory. Promising youngsters are identified and raised in hot-houses like the Australian Institute Of Sport. The whole approach was pioneered by Nazi Germany, East Germany, the Soviet Union etc., and is of course standard in China today.

On the other hand Morrisey is a racist jerk who thinks Chinese people are a "sub-species", so he can just fuck off.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Blue Kitty on 08 Aug 2012, 08:30
Holy fuck, women's beach volleyball yesterday. USA really pulled it together and beat Brazil, but it made me feel bad for Larissa Franca cause it looked like Juliana Felisberta was yelling at her the whole time.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Barmymoo on 08 Aug 2012, 14:50
I helped out at the library today (well, I helped a bit, and I read a lot, and now I'm on the computer until it closes) and we played Olympics bingo with the kids. We managed to figure out what almost all of the 25 pictures were meant to represent - I decided that one of the three (!) horse sports was Equestrian, one was Dressage and one was Pentathlon, according to the librarian I was working with. We were totally stumped by a picture showing two people facing each other with their arms outstretched, so we decided that patty-cake was an Olympic sport. It was never pulled as a bingo card anyway so it didn't matter.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 08 Aug 2012, 16:40
I suspect that may be something called "Wrestling".
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Jimor on 08 Aug 2012, 18:02
The official condom supplier for the Athlete Village is pissed that other brands are getting in on the action. (http://news.sympatico.cbc.ca/world/condom_controversy_hits_olympic_village/00d5887b#.UCL7ZtoJ48Q.facebook)

And apparently there is a LOT of action, because Durex supplied 150,000 free condoms to athletes in London.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Akima on 08 Aug 2012, 19:02
And apparently there is a LOT of action, because Durex supplied 150,000 free condoms to athletes in London.
The Duke of Marlborough Effect (http://evil-pop-tart.blogspot.com.au/2012/01/duke-of-marlborough-effect.html) (and obviously the Sarah Churchill Effect too).
By the way, don't ask my why the blogger chose to depict Sarah Churchill as Chinese! (http://Chinese!)  :psyduck: 
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Omega Entity on 08 Aug 2012, 19:24
I helped out at the library today (well, I helped a bit, and I read a lot, and now I'm on the computer until it closes) and we played Olympics bingo with the kids. We managed to figure out what almost all of the 25 pictures were meant to represent - I decided that one of the three (!) horse sports was Equestrian, one was Dressage and one was Pentathlon, according to the librarian I was working with. We were totally stumped by a picture showing two people facing each other with their arms outstretched, so we decided that patty-cake was an Olympic sport. It was never pulled as a bingo card anyway so it didn't matter.

The equestrian sports are actually Jumping, Dressage, and Eventing, a three-part competition that involves dressage, stadium jumping, and cross-country jumping, which imo is probably the most exciting. Those jumps are huuuuge, and the horse and rider are not only competing against the other competitors, but also against the clock as well - you're penalized for going over and under optimal time, so it's a balancing act of time management. Still, the horse and rider are often at a full gallop for much of the course, and it's usually divided up into two parts via the ten-minute box (where the animal is bathed down in cold water to bring down their body temperature, and is also inspected by a vet to help ensure that the animal is able to safely continue).

I did a low-level event a time or two, and also groomed at some intermediate ones.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Akima on 08 Aug 2012, 19:53
Just so, but Modern Pentathlon includes a show-jumping discipline, and this might be what May was watching.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Blue Kitty on 08 Aug 2012, 20:21
Synchronized swimming is so weird
(http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/olympic-swimming-spit.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: idontunderstand on 09 Aug 2012, 13:46
THERE'S A FLIP SIDE TO EVERY COIN!

American site
(http://i.imgur.com/6VXFs.png)

Official site
(http://i.imgur.com/b8IpA.png)
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: LTK on 09 Aug 2012, 14:11
You mean medal.

Well, at least they're being consistent in ranking by overall medal count. Though I'm curious to see what would happen if the roles were reversed.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 09 Aug 2012, 14:25
Actually the US is on top again by gold medal count - so GB can go back above Russia as well!

Watched a bit on telly tonight - utterly brilliant individual dressage performances by two of the British riders, in contrast to the Netherlands completely trampling on GB in the hockey.  Women's boxing I find as distasteful as I find all boxing.  The British runner who came last in the 800m did so in a time faster than the winners in the last three Olympics!  Nothing more to be said about Usain Bolt, I guess.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: idontunderstand on 11 Aug 2012, 13:23
Women's boxing I find as distasteful as I find all boxing.

(http://www.evolutionaryparenting.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/crying-baby.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Omega Entity on 11 Aug 2012, 13:30
I guess one of the US Men's 4x400m was running on a broken leg for 200m of his leg of the qualifying rounds, and -still- managed to do it in around 45 seconds.

As for women's boxing, the woman who won gold comes from Flint, MI, which is about 20 minutes west of me.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Abyssalin on 11 Aug 2012, 13:34
Those Jamaicans in the Baton event,

Any faster and i have expect Usain Bolt to burst into flame near the end of the race and then dissapear like the car from Back to the Future.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: idontunderstand on 11 Aug 2012, 13:38
Omega Entity, which weight class?

One of the participants in the 75 kg class, Anna Laurell, started out at my old gym and came by to train a few times.. one of the few times I've actually gotten intimidated by a person from just seeing them stand around doing nothing special. She had that vibe.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Pilchard123 on 11 Aug 2012, 14:17
THERE'S A FLIP SIDE TO EVERY COIN!

pictures and stuff

IIRC, a gold is 'worth' 50x bronze, or something. One might be using that system, while the other is just going by total medals. Not certain though.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 11 Aug 2012, 14:50
Tom Daley's bronze in diving was nail-biting stuff; there was less than 1% between the marks of the three leaders going into the last round (and Daley was in the lead), but he'd elected to one of the easier dives last, so the weighting of other two's marks ensured they beat him in spite of his doing an excellent last dive.
Title: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 12 Aug 2012, 14:16
So John Lennon sang at the closing ceremony - nice balance to Macca at the opening.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: blanktom on 12 Aug 2012, 15:19
Mayor of London Boris Johnson dancing to the Spice Girls.

(http://i.imgur.com/bKCUN.gif)
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lines on 12 Aug 2012, 15:21
So John Lennon sang at the closing ceremony - nice balance to Macca at the opening.

But...he's dead... ???
Title: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 12 Aug 2012, 15:48
Yeah. They performed Imagine (with a children's signing choir!), and then faded in film of him doing it, supplied and newly restored by Yoko Ono. It was very effectively done.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lines on 12 Aug 2012, 16:56
Oh wow, that sounds amazing.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Aug 2012, 19:11
Of course, they COULD have done a hologram version, like they did with Tupac...
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Omega Entity on 12 Aug 2012, 20:35
Or Hatsune Miku?  :-D
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lupercal on 13 Aug 2012, 00:24
The tributes to Lennon and Freddie Mercury were great!

Could have done without George Michael, but I'm pretty glad Brian May turned up, along with Daltry and Townsend. I would've been seething if those two had been missed out!
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Skewbrow on 13 Aug 2012, 05:05
Sad news (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/doping-belarus-shot-putter-stripped-gold-105700047.html), but not unexpected, if you watched women's shot put final. Valerie Adams (n. Wili) of New Zealand now promoted to a gold medalist.

Highlights of the London OG for me:
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Akima on 13 Aug 2012, 07:15
Sad news (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/doping-belarus-shot-putter-stripped-gold-105700047.html), but not unexpected, if you watched women's shot put final.
She ate a steroid brownie?
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Skewbrow on 13 Aug 2012, 08:14
The collected explanation by caught/suspected/confessed dopers include (from the top of my head):
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Abyssalin on 13 Aug 2012, 08:23
And the best i've heard

"Someone must have snuck those drugs into the brownies i ate"
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Blue Kitty on 13 Aug 2012, 19:35
The tributes to Lennon and Freddie Mercury were great!

Could have done without George Michael, but I'm pretty glad Brian May turned up, along with Daltry and Townsend. I would've been seething if those two had been missed out!

Don't forget Russel Brand, they could have done without him
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 14 Aug 2012, 04:38
Yorkshire came twelfth overall (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/the-northerner/2012/aug/13/yorkshire-olympic-medals-gold-tourism-leeds-york-dales-sheffield-hull?newsfeed=true).
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Barmymoo on 14 Aug 2012, 12:40
I suspect that may be something called "Wrestling".

Possibly, but I think we had a wrestling icon as well.

Thanks for the explanation of the horse events, OE, I think eventing was probably the water one.

I'm now looking forwards to the Paralympics, where my friend Hannah will be winning gold in the wheelchair sprints (if she doesn't, I'll be very surprised - she is the world record holder).
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 14 Aug 2012, 14:35
Yorkshire came twelfth overall (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/the-northerner/2012/aug/13/yorkshire-olympic-medals-gold-tourism-leeds-york-dales-sheffield-hull?newsfeed=true).

As a resident of one of the four separate counties of the region of Yorkshire I predict that it will be a least four years before Yorkshirefolk shut up about this fact. You can tell a Yorkshireman, but you can't tell him much as the the saying goes.

Women's boxing I find as distasteful as I find all boxing.

I've heard this sentiment expressed in various guises and find it quite odd as it seems reserved only for boxing where as Wrestling, Judo, Taekwondo are about fighting and inflicting damage on others. Similarly fencing is borne of the ability to prove oneself capable of hurting others.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 14 Aug 2012, 14:58
You could say that one of the main functions of sport is to provide a means of competition by proxy.  The ball goes in the net; the finishing line is crossed first.  Sometimes the result is sufficiently mechanised to be unambiguous, sometimes the judgement of a specialist is required (e.g. diving, dressage).  Boxing however, and the other activities you listed, do without the proxy element, and require direct contact with the potential of injury.  In some cases, the contact is sufficiently rarefied and protected against that actual injury is unlikely (fencing, perhaps), but boxing and wrestling, and other sports that allow a knockout in particular, still have the significant possibility of real injury - for no purpose other than to say that you have won by virtue of causing that injury.  To my mind this is simply not civilised.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: JayJay on 14 Aug 2012, 15:09
it may not be civilised, but i think that having violent sports is something, lets say, necessary.
I really think that LOTS of people really enjoy watching other people suffer, and it's been happening for a long long time, take the gladiators for an example, the government used to host fights to the death to the amusement of the people.
My point being, if we do not have violent sports, there will soon be lots of underground ilegal fighting, and to me it's a lot more civilised to have some control of the fights and offer some protection and have assistance ready for the fighters
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lines on 14 Aug 2012, 15:41
Schadenfreude!
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: JayJay on 14 Aug 2012, 15:48
bless you
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lupercal on 14 Aug 2012, 16:15
Having practised Taekwondo for a number of years, and having seen the opening Olympic round in person, I wouldn't say that the athletes are in danger of getting injured, really. They wear body armour and headgear, along with shoe-type things on their feet to stop either hurtful contact with your opponent or personal injury. A swift kick to the torso scores two points, utterly minimal damage put forward. In fact, the ones ending up on their asses were the athletes trying to do spectacular kicks without timing it right. A kick to the head honestly isn't that painful (especially as they're not trying to knock each other out with said kick - and I haven't sparred with Olympian quality students either).

Boxing however...totally different. But having said what I've said about TKD, I'm not sure that I can out-rightly suggest it is a barbaric sport, only that there is a difference from trying to win by a knock-out and trying to have "contact" with your opponent.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: pwhodges on 15 Aug 2012, 00:09
I should also acknowledge that there are sports which have a lot of dangerous contact, but where the contact is not of the essence - i.e. does not contribute to the win, but may even lead rather to a penalty if not controlled appropriately - games like Rugby football or American football, for instance.  These I dislike for that element but do not condemn.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 15 Aug 2012, 06:35
Only two more years until the REAL Olympics, at least for me.

Ahhh, Ice hockey, speed skating and curling. (sigh)
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lupercal on 15 Aug 2012, 06:37
Yeah, you're talking about this right?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/2014_Commonwealth_Games_Logo.svg/250px-2014_Commonwealth_Games_Logo.svg.png)
Title: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: jwhouk on 15 Aug 2012, 07:08
No, more like Sochi '14.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: valley_parade on 15 Aug 2012, 09:12
A few of us that write for a hockey blog applied for press credentials to Sochi, mostly because hey, free tickets.

I don't see it going anywhere, but who cares.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: idontunderstand on 15 Aug 2012, 10:24
I should also acknowledge that there are sports which have a lot of dangerous contact, but where the contact is not of the essence - i.e. does not contribute to the win, but may even lead rather to a penalty if not controlled appropriately - games like Rugby football or American football, for instance.  These I dislike for that element but do not condemn.

You're completely wrong, boxing and similar sports is the pinnacle of civilization. *knocks you out with a swift uppercut*
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: idontunderstand on 15 Aug 2012, 13:24
(http://i.imgur.com/kYwfZ.gif)
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: Lupercal on 16 Aug 2012, 02:39
I imagine that's really what Pokemon would do when they hurt themselves in confusion.
Title: Re: The 2012 Olympics
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 16 Aug 2012, 23:19
Loving the C4 posters for the Paralympics, just a big legend "Thanks for the warm up".