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Title: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 05 Oct 2012, 19:52
The more I see of this game, the more I absolutely cannot wait to play it. I'm a big fan of American history, and as I just mentioned in a previous thread I love me some stealth assassination games. More than that, the gameplay in this just looks so badass. I really hope that translates from gameplay videos into gameplay itself, and I'm actually fairly optimistic that it will. I've always wanted to leap from tree to tree, tomahawking entire squads of Red Coats on my way to stabbing some nefarious general in the face. And soon I'll be able to!
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Gregorio on 06 Oct 2012, 18:17
I love the AC games, but I have to admit that I feel like there's something usually missing from the gameplay. I realize it's not like Hitman. Your goal is to gain attention of Templars, to cause a ruckus, and use your enemy's full alertness against them. The escapes are nailed down pat, but I feel like there's something missing from the scouting, the approach, and the ultimate execution. It's bothered me for almost five years, now.

Other than that, I'm stoked. I just love how engrossing the atmosphere of the games is, and though Desmond is about as exciting as crotch rot, the current-day plots are just getting more and more addictive.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: ackblom12 on 06 Oct 2012, 18:28
Actually, as much as I love the games, the there are a couple of things that's seriously bothered me about them, one of those things being the inclusion of the poison darts. As much sense as they make, it was essentially a "Successful Mission" button just waiting to happen.

Either way though, AC3 looks fucking amazing.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LeeC on 01 Dec 2012, 18:47
to those who have or will get Assassin's Creed 3.  Your first mission in the opera house:

As you are climbing the balcony keep your eyes out for a booth with a man and a woman making out.  its quiet hilarious.

Spoiler
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on that note I wish we could play more as Haytham.


Just finished the prologue with Haytham,  WTF!  great name for the achievement too once you finish with haytham.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Blue Kitty on 02 Dec 2012, 10:08
I just beat the game last night and I have to say that  Assassin's Creed 3 was a lot of fun. The one thing that I really enjoyed about the game was the hunting parts. It was a great way to earn extra money and I thought they did it pretty well, though it reminded me of Red Dead Redemption.

But c'mon Ubisoft, I want a fuedal era Japan game. IT PRACTICALLY WRITES ITSELF.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 02 Dec 2012, 15:33
Yes!! God that would be amazing. There has NEVER been a genuinely good ninja game (and Ninja Giadan and Shinobi do not count) and for the life of me I cannot figure out why. Tenchu tried but those games had awful AI and clunky controls so they really weren't very fun. An awesome, open world, ninja stealth assassin game would rock so hard.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LTK on 02 Dec 2012, 16:32
*Ahem* Mark of the Ninja (http://store.steampowered.com/app/214560/)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 02 Dec 2012, 17:48
Hmm, had not heard of that until now. It DOES look pretty cool. I'm always a tad skeptical of modern platform style games having enough gameplay depth, but then things like Braid and Limbo come along and I realize I'm just being silly and that good developers can do amazing things within that limitation. I will check this out! That being said, I feel like a Splinter Cell/Assassins Creed style system is more along the lines of what I'm picturing (pretty much what Tenchu wanted to be but never was for a whole host of largely mechanics-based reasons). It just seems so logical to me that I'm amazed it hasn't happened yet. People love ninjas, people love stealthily slaughtering baddies, and people love Japan. It just feels like a no-brainer.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: ackblom12 on 02 Dec 2012, 17:52
I would absolutely be up for a Ninja game in the style of Assassin's Creed. I'd prefer the other option to be closer to Hitman than Splinter Cell though.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 03 Dec 2012, 14:24
I actually had written "Hitman" but then deleted it. In my imagining of ninjas, they weren't breaking into places in the way 47 does. I picture more pure stealth than the hiding-in-plain-sight thing 47 is best known for. But hell, I'll take what I can get and I DO love me some Hitman.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LTK on 03 Dec 2012, 14:35
So I hear AC3 is rather light on the stabby-stabby. How many people do you actually have to assassinate this time around?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LeeC on 03 Dec 2012, 17:22
So I hear AC3 is rather light on the stabby-stabby. How many people do you actually have to assassinate this time around?
Well if I told you that I would give away a huge spoiler.  Suffice to say the game presents you with 6-8 but then again there are so many twists and turns that it very well could be more.

If I did have one complaint about the game it would be that the shadows rendering is terrible.

I would have to say I like the villains, the main character is alright, desmond is whinny as ever, and the mentor is like if you combined master splinter and mr miyagi.

on top of that the naval battles are a lot of fun and your first mate is voiced by mr. gibbs from the pirates of the Caribbean films.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Blue Kitty on 03 Dec 2012, 20:29
I thought that was him, it even looks like him
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LeeC on 04 Dec 2012, 16:56
I would absolutely be up for a Ninja game in the style of Assassin's Creed. I'd prefer the other option to be closer to Hitman than Splinter Cell though.
put it in the time of the warring states, oda nobunaga is head templar.  totally could work.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: de_la_Nae on 07 Dec 2012, 05:10
Just started playing this week.

So there's very little mention of this, but you know the Frontiersman Haunted Lighthouse quest?

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Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Blue Kitty on 07 Dec 2012, 19:00
There seems to be a lot of hate for this game, and I don't really get why.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: ackblom12 on 08 Dec 2012, 07:27
I haven't seen a lot of hate for it, but I have seen a lot of disappointment. Makes me pretty okay with putting off purchasing it.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Gregorio on 08 Dec 2012, 12:17
The ZP review put me off the game more than anything. I wasn't such a big fan of all of the money-earning stuff from AC2 and its spin-offs, but if it's as oppressive and focused on the side stuff as he says it is, then I'll put this game off until it's $30.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LTK on 08 Dec 2012, 14:20
I haven't seen a lot of hate for it, but I have seen a lot of disappointment. Makes me pretty okay with putting off purchasing it.
Are you saying you postponed purchasing it or decided not to purchase it at all?

The ZP review put me off the game more than anything. I wasn't such a big fan of all of the money-earning stuff from AC2 and its spin-offs, but if it's as oppressive and focused on the side stuff as he says it is, then I'll put this game off until it's $30.
I'm not saying that's a bad decision, but you shouldn't really base your opinion of a game on the ZP review alone, because it's bound to be extremely light on the game's merits.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Pilchard123 on 08 Dec 2012, 14:45
The ZP review put me off the game more than anything. I wasn't such a big fan of all of the money-earning stuff from AC2 and its spin-offs, but if it's as oppressive and focused on the side stuff as he says it is, then I'll put this game off until it's $30.

Isn't the entire point of his reviews to pan the game as hard as possible? I mean, Minecraft wasn't bad but also wasn't good, and Portal 2 which IIRC he liked was pretty much "It isn't as good as the old one".
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: de_la_Nae on 08 Dec 2012, 15:05
Ben Crowshaw's (sp?) reviews at ZP *are* meant to be more biting and scathing than your usual (the man knows his audience and his humor).

Now so far I really like this one, but then again I've liked them all so, y'know, that doesn't mean much. I'd still say wait until $30-ish though.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: ackblom12 on 09 Dec 2012, 00:57
Are you saying you postponed purchasing it or decided not to purchase it at all?

Postponing.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Blue Kitty on 10 Dec 2012, 06:53
Early reports are saying that the next Assassin's Creed is gonna be in Brazil
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: de_la_Nae on 11 Dec 2012, 07:48
I am officially hot and bothered at the idea of a South American setting.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: ackblom12 on 11 Dec 2012, 08:08
I really wish they'd end the story of Desmond and take a couple years off from the franchise.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: ackblom12 on 11 Dec 2012, 09:38
Speaking of...

Amazon has it for $33 today. (http://www.amazon.com/Assassins-Creed-III-Xbox-360/dp/B0050SYLRK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1355247453&sr=8-1&keywords=assassins+creed+3)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Blue Kitty on 11 Dec 2012, 09:44
Modern day Brazil would be cool, what with all the ramshackle houses all together, but in the past it seems like another horizontal landscape like in 3
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LeeC on 11 Dec 2012, 09:49
perhaps brazil in the 40s/50s?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: ackblom12 on 11 Dec 2012, 10:00
I could have sworn they weren't planning on going into any era that had guns more complex than muskets.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LeeC on 11 Dec 2012, 10:03
I know for sure the devs said that Desmond's story is over, but I think with the Desmond missions in AC3 they seem like they want to shed more light on the modern assassins. Guns may be coming eventually.  I am sure the new AC is still in the planning stages.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Pilchard123 on 11 Dec 2012, 11:35
So I was in GAME on Sunday, and there are shenanigans with DLC and stuff. Apparently, there's a flintlock musket that you can only get if you buy it in GAME.

Arse.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LeeC on 15 Dec 2012, 18:22
Finally got all the homesteaders, and I have to say I hope Conner nails the tailor.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Barmymoo on 16 Dec 2012, 10:23
I enjoyed AssBro, as you kids called it, when I played it at Jens's house - I am actually tempted to get this one, but I can't find it for PC - is it not on PC? I might get one of the older ones for PC instead, the first game is only £5 on Amazon.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: ackblom12 on 16 Dec 2012, 10:26
It's definitely on PC. I don't know much about non–digital availability because I haven't bought a physical disc for PC in years.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: snalin on 16 Dec 2012, 10:32
AC3 is on Steam, it's advertising for it all the time. Maybe it's a steam exclusive?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Barmymoo on 16 Dec 2012, 13:31
I have no idea what Steam is.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Pilchard123 on 16 Dec 2012, 13:34
Whatwhatwhatwhatwhat? [/goonshow]

It's an online store, a sort-of-social thing, it has ludicrous sales (I think I've seen 90% off in some). It's a good idea to have a good 'net connection though. Also a big wallet, the sales are great for making you 'misplace' money.

store.steampowered.com (http://store.steampowered.com)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Barmymoo on 16 Dec 2012, 13:57
Think I'll wait until it gets cheaper - I don't need to play it right now (I need NOT to play it during the final two terms of my degree...).
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Jace on 16 Dec 2012, 14:34
The AssCreed games suck on PC unless you have a controller you can use to play them. Using a keyboard and mouse is a surefire way to get frustrated.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: snalin on 16 Dec 2012, 15:22
I have no idea what Steam is.

To expand - it's a client you have installed on your computer that works as part game shop, part game library - think Itunes, if you buy music through that.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Bev on 18 Dec 2012, 03:33
Just finished it, and I'm not sure if it's my fav or not, I have to give it time to sink in. I love AC2 because it fixed everything that was wrong with the first game and Ezio was an awesome character, but the storyline was overly confusing and the ending was balls. The story in AC3 is much easier to understand, but Connor is such a boring goody-two-shoes, and the ending this time really is one of the worst in recent memory. I just can't follow the Desmond storyline, it's so over complicated, with 10 minute long monologues from holograms, I just gave up on ever understanding what was going on. Connors story was much better, even if his character was a little weak, there were some great villains and the navals levels kicked arse.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: de_la_Nae on 18 Dec 2012, 04:49
...man, every time I try to decide which one was the weakest overall, I run into reasons why it can't be. Brotherhood was a little samey, but...introduces Assassin Recruits, and that ending! 1's gameplay is dated compared to its successors, but that story and that setting! Revelations was all "oh great even MORE Ezio", but he was still pretty enjoyable after all! Besides flashback-plays and dashing around Constantinople.

Maybe 2? But I don't really want to commit to that either, a lot of stuff it introduced has stuck around for good reason.

By the way, as to the point about Desmond's story, now I haven't finished 3 (really 5) so I can't speak 100%, but a cursory glance on my part seems to indicate that the buyable extras fix a lot of the holes in the various characters' stories, including the 'present-day' ones.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Bev on 18 Dec 2012, 14:28
By the way, as to the point about Desmond's story, now I haven't finished 3 (really 5) so I can't speak 100%, but a cursory glance on my part seems to indicate that the buyable extras fix a lot of the holes in the various characters' stories, including the 'present-day' ones.


That's some Mass Effect 3 shit right there, I'm not falling for it. They should have gotten it right the first time since they had years to perfect it.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: de_la_Nae on 20 Dec 2012, 06:17
Usually they do this shit on purpose. Like 2's time skip near the end, with the intervening years being extras?

I'm often of 2 minds about this this sort of thing. I *like* being able to romp around in a setting and game I like some more, see even more sights, etc. I also like not paying more money.

I sort of think that main plot points should be actually resolved in the main-line story though (
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Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: idontunderstand on 02 Jan 2013, 10:11
I got this for Christmas and hell. So far, this sucks. I played through AC2 and Brotherhood and enjoyed the first of these quite a bit more than the other, but still, good stuff. So far I haven't enjoyed this one single bit.

- The graphics were outdated already, so why reuse it? Have they even made any new movement patterns (villagers walking and avoiding you etc) or just changed the buildings and clothes? Like someone mentioned the shadings are seriously off sometimes. They don't look right and they often point completely wrong.
- The main character is the most stony bastard I've seen. I don't want him to win, I want him to get hit by a carriage and drown in the mud. I also don't like how he seems to be a full-fledged assassin from the very start, it makes very little sense to me to do it this way. Not that I want AC2 all over again, it's just that you get no chance to build a connection with a character who's a superman from the beginning.
- Mum walked in when Benjamin Franklin went on about why older women are preferable in bed. Oofah.
- Shaun's humor in the Animus has reached it's lowest point ever, and that's saying a lot. I used to read through all of the place and person descriptions and now I just avoid them. I get that part of the joke is that he should be annoying but this is way beyond my pain threshold.
- It lags and I've died twice because of bugs already. Once on the ship he just went straight up into the air, fell down and died. The other time he went through a wall and somehow got sucked into oblivion I guess. Also, when the Captain on the ship spoke, his mouth was closed. All the time. I honestly thought someone else was doing his talking all the time like some kind of weird puppet joke. But there just seems to be something wrong with my game.

I'm hoping for a better gaming session.. maybe tomorrow. So far though, it has not reached my modest expectations.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Blue Kitty on 02 Jan 2013, 20:04
Have you gotten to Ratonhnhaké:ton yet?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: idontunderstand on 03 Jan 2013, 10:30
Nope, didn't get time to play today. Does it get more fun later on?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LeeC on 03 Jan 2013, 10:43
Nope, didn't get time to play today. Does it get more fun later on?
when you finish the British guy's story and start Ratonhnhaké:ton's story things get very interesting indeed!
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: idontunderstand on 03 Jan 2013, 11:16
That's good to hear.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LeeC on 03 Jan 2013, 12:02
honestly the British guy is pretty much the prologue. Ratonhnhaké:ton and Desmond are pretty much the actual story.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: idontunderstand on 03 Jan 2013, 12:18
Oh shit, I got all excited again now. Cheers!
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: de_la_Nae on 03 Jan 2013, 14:43
Now I was going to let Idu discover that on their own, but I guess telling them works too. :p

I played on 360, so didn't notice any of the irritating bugs you ran into.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LeeC on 03 Jan 2013, 14:54
Oh shit, I got all excited again now. Cheers!
you got to the end of the british guy story didnt ya?  8-)
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: idontunderstand on 05 Jan 2013, 01:50
Not exactly but almost there!

Dang, it's annoying trying to get 100 % on some of the missions.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Bev on 06 Jan 2013, 20:26
I actually really liked the prologue, I found Haytham to be a much more charismatic and interesting character than Connor.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: idontunderstand on 07 Jan 2013, 10:54
Well I haven't got that far, maybe I'll enjoy it more in retrospect! Connor seems a little dull, yes. But he can kill cougars! And climb trees! And stuff! It's enough for me so far.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LeeC on 07 Jan 2013, 16:52
I totally lost my shit when they changed from Haytham to Connor.  I have yet to finish the game, but it was totally the highlight as far as I have gotten.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: de_la_Nae on 07 Jan 2013, 17:43
I was really confused at first, because I could have sworn the main character was part-Iroquois, but then as I reached the end of Haytham's segment I realized what was probably going on. Kind of hurt the reveal
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a little, but was fine.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Bev on 07 Jan 2013, 19:59
Would've been a total mind fuck if they only used Haytham in all the previews and advertising, then had the twist that they have and shift to Connor!
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: de_la_Nae on 07 Jan 2013, 21:24
Yeah, and I think that'd have been pretty damned sweet. But Marketing's a total killjoy. And by that I mean they don't share my ideas, so obviously are WRONG (that's how it works right?).
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Blyss on 10 Jan 2013, 14:38
Yeah, and I think that'd have been pretty damned sweet. But Marketing's a total killjoy. And by that I mean they don't share my ideas, so obviously are WRONG (that's how it works right?).

That is EXACTLY how marketing works.

I have yet to play this game, but had they gone the way of MGS2, and not done the reveal in the commercials, that would have been extremely powerful.  Marketers sometimes forget that word of mouth is the strongest way to advertise, and let me tell you, had they done that, it would have been much more memorable.

Oh, and heh, 500 posts.  lol
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: de_la_Nae on 10 Jan 2013, 17:30
Hahaha, you mean that the switch to Raiden was somewhat secret?! HA! That's amusing to hear.

Oddly enough that's the only one of those games I've ever played all the way through. Despite what some people have told me to the contrary, I feel like it's probably a damned fine summary of the entire series.
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Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: idontunderstand on 11 Jan 2013, 10:59
I find the hunting system hilarious. So far the only thing I've done is dashing like a madman through the forest and killing everything I've come by. None of the hunting techniques suggested in the animus are worth jack compared to this.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Pilchard123 on 11 Jan 2013, 12:05
Isn't that pretty much how hunting in any game works?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: idontunderstand on 11 Jan 2013, 12:14
The only thing missing is that giggling dog.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: de_la_Nae on 11 Jan 2013, 16:36
I find the hunting system hilarious. So far the only thing I've done is dashing like a madman through the forest and killing everything I've come by. None of the hunting techniques suggested in the animus are worth jack compared to this.

^^^^^ Pretty much. Oh *sometimes* some of the other stuff is useful, but the vast majority of time it is not at all necessary.

That said did you know that you can sometimes slay enemies in combat with items you wouldn't think would work? If you counter and hit the accessory button instead of your main weapon button, some of the accessories you can equip will be used to finish them off, like snares. Doesn't work for everything and uses them up, so often not efficient, but a nice touch nonetheless.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Blue Kitty on 12 Jan 2013, 21:08
I liked using snares and my bow and arrows while hunting. One thing I never thought to do was hang people with the rope darts in the cities.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: idontunderstand on 13 Jan 2013, 02:49
The rope darts provide endless fun if you get nto it.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LTK on 13 Jan 2013, 07:58
I liked using snares and my bow and arrows while hunting. One thing I never thought to do was hang people with the rope darts in the cities.
And in the game?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Bev on 13 Jan 2013, 13:54
Rope darts are my new favourite weapon, I pretty much used them throughout the whole game to trip guys over when I wasn't near a tree I could hang them from.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: de_la_Nae on 14 Jan 2013, 00:38
It took me...longer than it should have to actually realize how to hang an enemy from a beam/limb with a rope dart.  For a while there I thought you were *supposed* to mostly use it as a long-distance silent-garrote.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Gregorio on 30 Jan 2013, 22:38
I don't understand the economy system.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: idontunderstand on 31 Jan 2013, 11:14
Great avatar/post synergy there.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: de_la_Nae on 31 Jan 2013, 13:51
It's weird and in a lot of ways, from what I saw, irrelevant.

That said, I did have fun puttering about with it, if for nothing else being able to say I CAUGHT THEM ALL and then ganked a lot of soldiers (because for all my trying to be a Righteous Healing in the various Bioware morality games, I'm apparently a bloodthirsty sociopath in these).
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LeeC on 31 Jan 2013, 14:52
because for all my trying to be a Righteous Healing in the various Bioware morality games, I'm apparently a bloodthirsty sociopath in these).
one of these days I am going to play ME1-3 as a new character and every decision I will ask myself "What Would Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z the Abridge Series Do?" WWVDBZABSD? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAhveyAOYkQ) way more hard core than the actual show.  I usually can only do the good guy stuff in moral choice games so I need an evil badass moral compass to play evil.

really need to pick AC3 back up and finish it.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: ackblom12 on 31 Jan 2013, 14:59
"Sounds like somebody's got an ice cream headache!"
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Gregorio on 01 Feb 2013, 01:06
So, all of my little settlement people get stuff, then I buy some of their stuff, then I use some of that stuff to make other stuff, including convoys. Then convoys deliver stuff for like almost no money, or get attacked so that I lose money and convoys, so I do ship missions to make safer convoy routes (because the Carribean is between my house and Boston), which can be a pain if I don't upgrade my ship, which requires large amounts of money, which I don't have because I OH GOD I STILL HAVE MY DEFAULT AXE AND I KILLED PITCAIRN.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: idontunderstand on 01 Feb 2013, 01:44
I never used the economy system even once. You get enough money from side missions and chests.

Finished the game now btw. Found the ending to be quite a letdown... but it was fun I guess, it's got nothing on AC2 though.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LeeC on 01 Feb 2013, 07:31
the only thing I want from the settlers is a second set of pistols.

it's got nothing on AC2 though.
AC2 is by far the best in the series, hell its one of my top games of all time for Xbox 360 games.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: de_la_Nae on 01 Feb 2013, 09:49
So, all of my little settlement people get stuff, then I buy some of their stuff, then I use some of that stuff to make other stuff, including convoys. Then convoys deliver stuff for like almost no money, or get attacked so that I lose money and convoys, so I do ship missions to make safer convoy routes (because the Carribean is between my house and Boston), which can be a pain if I don't upgrade my ship, which requires large amounts of money, which I don't have because I OH GOD I STILL HAVE MY DEFAULT AXE AND I KILLED PITCAIRN.

Actually someday you'll get to make ship-convoys, and that's what those particular missions do.

Once you visit/find the various shops, and once you get/produce (since you get a *lot* of trade-good loot in the game by thieving and looting), you can actually make a lot of money in convoys, if you want. Many goods (especially intact furs) are worth a lot more if you send them by wagon/boat than hoofing it yourself.

And you can go defend those convoys. The game opens up a minimap slot for when they're attacked.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Gregorio on 01 Feb 2013, 10:12
And you can go defend those convoys. The game opens up a minimap slot for when they're attacked.
Yeah, I saw the notification, just didn't know how to go to the mission.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: de_la_Nae on 01 Feb 2013, 10:21
It's in the Wilderness territories. You just have to run out there, similar to how you'd assault a Templar-backed caravan, if you've seen that yet.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Gregorio on 02 Feb 2013, 12:44
Oh my god that first New York mobile eavesdrop mission is the worst thing. I've had some 100% sync problems, but to get to the last part of that after 15 tries, only to have one guy glitch on a curve spin around and spot me was infuriating. Still fun, though, and I'd rate the game as the second best right behind AC2 in the series for me.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: ackblom12 on 12 Feb 2013, 12:12
The Assassin's Failure (http://www.popmatters.com/pm/column/167287-the-assassins-failure/)

I found this to be a pretty interesting analytical article on AC3's story. Any opinions from those who have played it?
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Pilchard123 on 12 Feb 2013, 12:41
I've not played any of the games, but it was a really good read even so.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: de_la_Nae on 12 Feb 2013, 14:45
Theoretically I'll pick it back up to finish in the next month. I'll get back to you on it.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Gregorio on 12 Feb 2013, 23:28
AC's story gets weird. You can miss out on important dialogues that are part of non-animus interactions or side missions. Then there was that time where I either didn't hear or missed a later reveal that a major character was a traitor before they died, so I was wondering what the hell had happened for two whole games until they brought it back up in AC3. I have no idea what's going on with Juno and Minerva in 3, and my brain kind of hurts. There's a lot going on, but they're handling it all very well given how difficult that can be.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: de_la_Nae on 13 Feb 2013, 04:08
I'll tell you what happened there, and this gets my goat: The extra paid episodes for the last game or two address that more thoroughly, in the sort of way they *should* have in the main game.

There are actually a few different things covered in those that I wish I just *had* in the normal games, but that particular point is the most damning. To me it's far too central a point to do up like that.

That said, it did look like they were trying to find a way to discuss it in 3 so that someone who hadn't bought the extras could follow along, so I'll give them that.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LeeC on 11 Aug 2013, 22:41
wasnt sure if this was a spoiler free thread or not so I ignored everything up to now.  Can anyone tell me if its safe to scroll up?

picked up assassins creed 3 up again today and I am just before the saratoga mission (I think it saratoga, the one in winter time when everyone is starving) when I picked it back up.  I decided to not pick up the main story yet and finish up with what I can with my homesteaders.  Was able to get my dual pistols and craft these french pistols that has 2 shots each (so total or 4 shots! ).  Sadly the game bugged out on me when tracking down the huntress lady on why she wants to leave and it skipped that whole cutscene.  I only now just figured out how to recruit more assassins other than the Quebecois guy Stephane.  Apparently you have to liberate all the of the city districts and you not only get introduced to a new recruit for each district, but the new recruit also adds a new ability for you assassin's guild when you call for back up.  Still gunning for connor to hook up with the tailor lady but looks like the assassin chick is eyeing him.  Trying to raise as much money as I can to upgrade my boat, so far I got more cannons and a stronger hull.  The naval missions are a blast but I want to fully upgrade before i finish them all.  When I pick it back up I'll take down all the templar forts and continue making money with the convoys (oh yeah finally figured that one out too).  If I can get all the money and boat upgrades, its to the high seas! Other wise I'll pick up the main plot again.

I will say recruiting all these assassins make me want to try brotherhood when this is all over.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: Blue Kitty on 12 Aug 2013, 06:34
Recruiting is a lot better in the 2nd Assassin's Creeds, where you have a veritable army. In this one you only really get a small group of assassins.
Title: Re: Assassins Creed 3
Post by: LeeC on 12 Aug 2013, 07:40
yeah seems more like a specialist team.  You got the berserk Quebecois, the "robin hood" chick, the country bumpkin sniper, the former irish priest with no qualms for killing, the german tough guy, and the amateur doctor.  Other than the sniper it doesnt really feel like the rest know about the whole assassin v templar thing and are more like a crew from boston that does "jobs" than a tightly knit brotherhood with a grandmaster (achilles) trying to train and indoctrinate them in the colonial assassin brotherhood.

It sounds like AC2:Brotherhood might actually have that mentality that this one lacks?