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Title: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 28 Apr 2013, 05:37
And we're back for another week! Brace yourselves, though - Jeph's on a return trip from a con, so that could mean Filler strips.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: WAYF on 28 Apr 2013, 06:35
To be fair, according to my Twitter feed he was in the same building as Nathan Fillion. I'd need to take at least two days off after experiencing that. :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Apr 2013, 07:54
USE HIS SPACE NAME! (http://xkcd.com/578/)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 28 Apr 2013, 08:34
I've often wondered: Is his space name Captain Tightpants Hammer or Captain Hammer Tightpants?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Apr 2013, 08:50
Captain Tight Hammerpants?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Bluesummers on 28 Apr 2013, 11:42
Moar Deathmole shenanigans! Yay Hannerdrums!


:mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 28 Apr 2013, 11:52
Hang on, Gordon?

I thought it was Gary the hallucination?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 28 Apr 2013, 12:04
All bow to the glory of Captain Tightpants! Failure to comply will result in punching.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 28 Apr 2013, 13:50
Hang on, Gordon?

I thought it was Gary the hallucination?

The general consensus was that this was the real Gordon (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2335) and Hannelore just thought he was a hallucination because he looked so bizarre. Also, that Jeph confused Gordon's name with one of two Garys - Gary the omnipotent AI (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2070) or Gary the nine-foot pterodactyl (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=721).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: WAYF on 28 Apr 2013, 15:01
I view "Nathan Fillion" as a catch-all term for the characters that Nathan Fillion plays. Like Maggie Smith, who (these days at least) only ever plays people whose entire characterization is "Maggie Smith". :P
I'd vote for his Space Name being Captain Hammer Tightpants though.

As for what happens this week, I'm going to guess that Marten starts talking about the incident with Claire to all and sundry (as he does) and presumably they tell him not to worry about it so much.
Or that's what I would do if I were Marten... damn, I'm totally projecting. :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 28 Apr 2013, 15:03
I have a question to jwhouk.

WHY NO WAFFLES IN POLL?  :x

(I guess I can just pretend that the "breakfast" option includes waffles.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 28 Apr 2013, 16:18
Haven't done one of these in a couple weeks, gimme a break.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Somebody on 28 Apr 2013, 18:06
You never even mentioned a Return of the Bros! (Bros! Bros!)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 28 Apr 2013, 20:52
So, uh, help me remember the origin of this board's fascination with waffles?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 28 Apr 2013, 21:03
Waffles (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=510)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 28 Apr 2013, 22:19
You know, if Marten isn't considering it, he is seriously blurring boundaries here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 28 Apr 2013, 22:20
Comic! And what a cute one!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 28 Apr 2013, 22:21
Well, that might slow things down.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Apr 2013, 22:27
Comic! And what a cute one!
Very.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 28 Apr 2013, 22:33
Upon closer inspection, could it be foreshadowing that Claire uses future tense in the last panel? *tryingnottoship*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 28 Apr 2013, 22:34
Well hell that resolved itself quickly! Now for the post hug/hair ball talking!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 28 Apr 2013, 22:46
So far Emily and Marten have both been startled by Clairehair.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 28 Apr 2013, 22:50
Dawwwww

Marten got a Hairball.


Trez cutez
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 28 Apr 2013, 23:00
There must be plenty of people by now raising their eyebrows and looking askance at how Claire takes care of her hair: the Claire-bear hair care stare.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Apr 2013, 23:02
Upon closer inspection, could it be foreshadowing that Claire uses future tense in the last panel? *tryingnottoship*
"That'll happen" and "That happens" essentially mean the same thing. That something tends to happen (in this case, her hair getting on or in someone).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 28 Apr 2013, 23:05
There must be plenty of people by now raising their eyebrows and looking askance at how Claire takes care of her hair: the Claire-bear hair care stare.
It's unfair!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 28 Apr 2013, 23:09
Ugh those rhymes, You dare?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Apr 2013, 23:15
Rhymes? Where?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 28 Apr 2013, 23:43
*Glare*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 29 Apr 2013, 01:00
Oh it's enough to make me despair
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 29 Apr 2013, 01:59
It'll probably give me a nightmare!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 29 Apr 2013, 02:07
Dawwww. :)

That is all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 29 Apr 2013, 02:30
And Marten demonstrates once again, that he is as smooth as a river made of bricks.
But you know the explanation.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ChaoSera on 29 Apr 2013, 03:16
It's the humidity!
My physics teacher back in school would always use that when one of his experiments failed. And pretty much every one failed, so I guess our classroom must've been fucking damp...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 29 Apr 2013, 03:19
Everybody say it with me now.. Dawwwwwwwww <3 :D


And yes, long hair tends to get everywhere. You just can't escape it...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 29 Apr 2013, 03:46
*Must not jump back on the shipping train*
ach, who am I kidding.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 29 Apr 2013, 04:05
Everybody say it with me now.. Dawwwwwwwww <3 :D

*Ahem*. Dawwwwwwwwww <3

A nice little resolution to last week's panic attack, I feel.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Bluesummers on 29 Apr 2013, 05:42
Everybody say it with me now.. Dawwwwwwwww <3 :D

As soon as I saw the panel, I heard the generic "Awwwwwww" from morning talk shows. Apparently Rachel Ray was playing in the other room....how appropriate a sound. ^^;;
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 29 Apr 2013, 06:09
For the last few strips, I've been staring at that barn painting more than the actual characters.

I ship it with the Mogwai poster.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 29 Apr 2013, 06:51
For the last few strips, I've been staring at that barn painting more than the actual characters.

I ship it with the Mogwai poster.

How much for first class to Canada?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 29 Apr 2013, 07:26
Upon closer inspection, could it be foreshadowing that Claire uses future tense in the last panel? *tryingnottoship*

If you're really looking for shipping material, I could point out that it was a very enthusiastic hug that Claire gave Marten.

And then I could undermine it by pointing out that enthusiastic hugs can be entirely platonic.  :evil:

Either way, I predict that tomorrow's strip will be four panels of Hannelore and Garydon the ArachnoPC staring wordlessly at each other.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 29 Apr 2013, 07:33
Thankfully, Jephzibah has not mutated into David Willis yet.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 29 Apr 2013, 07:37
Either way, I predict that tomorrow's strip will be four panels of Hannelore and Garydon the ArachnoPC staring wordlessly at each other.

In the last panel, we find out they switched bodies.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Silentbanksy on 29 Apr 2013, 08:29
"Yeah, that'll happen"

That'll

That will

BECAUSE THERE WILL BE MORE HUGS IN THE FUTURE
BECAUSE THEY'LL HUG ALL THE TIME
AND THEN MAKE KISS FACES.
AND MAKE MARTEN CLAIRE BABIES AND HAVE A HOUSE AND A LAWN AND A DOG AND A SWIMMING POOL

sorry
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 29 Apr 2013, 08:35
Either way, I predict that tomorrow's strip will be four panels of Hannelore and Garydon the ArachnoPC staring wordlessly at each other.

In the last panel, we find out they switched bodies.
Which might be confusing, because today's strip involved a person whom already switched bodies. To their actual body from a wrong body. Despite never switching before.

Real life is stranger than fiction.

"Yeah, that'll happen"
That will

*squeeing sounds*
My conclusion is this hug is the start of a growing attraction between the two, and 500 strips later Claire will have a major reveal that either ends in kissing or a large turn in the comic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 29 Apr 2013, 09:40
Another major reveal?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 29 Apr 2013, 09:43
AND MAKE MARTEN CLAIRE BABIES AND HAVE A HOUSE AND A LAWN AND A DOG AND A SWIMMING POOL

But they ca...'WE ARE WORKING ON THE TECHNOLOGY!'
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Arancaytar on 29 Apr 2013, 10:10
...curses, foiled again.

Jeph is full-on trolling the shippers now. :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 29 Apr 2013, 10:43
Confiding in Marten in the first place suggests that Claire is a good judge of character.

If she is, then she'll realize that Marten is a better choice for a Just A Really Good Friend than for a romantic partner.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 29 Apr 2013, 10:55
You think someone who could judge character wouldn't date Marten? Or just that Claire shouldn't?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 29 Apr 2013, 10:56
Another major reveal?

We have had what... three or four of them tops? I shall count the major twists of the story.

Don't read spoiler if you haven't read all the comics

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Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 29 Apr 2013, 11:04
I think more than the 'that'll,' the nuzzle-y nature of Marten should be considered ship material.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 29 Apr 2013, 11:15
I think more than the 'that'll,' the nuzzle-y nature of Marten should be considered ship material.

Yeah, dude's totally smelling her hair. :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 29 Apr 2013, 11:19
Well, back in the day Faye let Marten hug her (just the once, and he missed the chance of a second go) - and look where that led.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 29 Apr 2013, 12:18
You think someone who could judge character wouldn't date Marten? Or just that Claire shouldn't?

He makes a wonderful friend. None of his friendships have ever ended. All of his romantic relationships have. He's too aimless to be a life partner.

She could do worse than dating Marten, but she couldn't do better than having him as a close friend.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 29 Apr 2013, 12:33
All of his romantic relationships have.
I don't really see that as a meaningful statement. If you're monogamous, then all of your romantic relationships end...until one doesn't. As far as we know, he's only had two girlfriends, one of which was a college relationship that wasn't as serious as he thought it was. Not a remarkably good or bad track record, really. You could count Padma, but that was more of a fling that both wanted to go somewhere, but circumstances made them both fuck it up.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 29 Apr 2013, 12:38
And, arguably, Marten wasn't the one who screwed things up with Dora either. And they're able to be friends again now, which says a lot about him. So no, Marten's not a total loser at romantic relationships.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 29 Apr 2013, 12:41
I figure it's more of a reason to be his friend than a reason not to date him. But like Zeb said, Dora proves that they don't have to be mutually exclusive (she was his friend before dating him and is his friend after).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 29 Apr 2013, 13:58
Everybody say it with me now.. Dawwwwwwwww <3 :D

*Must not jump back on the shipping train*
ach, who am I kidding.

*Ahem*. Dawwwwwwwwww <3

"Yeah, that'll happen"

(click to show/hide)

I think more than the 'that'll,' the nuzzle-y nature of Marten should be considered ship material.

Yeah, dude's totally smelling her hair. :-D

 (http://i.imgur.com/NvzjTut.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 29 Apr 2013, 14:07
Look, none of this means anything. We all know, from experience, that the one and only indicator of the potential success of a long-term relationship in the QCverse is whether or not the two people involved have the same favorite Toto song (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1735). If they don't (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1739), the clock is ticking on the relationship. So unless Claire likes "Rosanna (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1737)" we can forget about it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Boiled Dove on 29 Apr 2013, 14:11
But Dora had the only acceptable answer.

*runs and hides from potential backlash*

Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 29 Apr 2013, 14:11
Has anyone asked Tai her opinion on Toto?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 29 Apr 2013, 14:33
Hm... I suppose if Tai also thought Toto sucked, she and Dora would technically have the same favorite Toto song: None of them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 29 Apr 2013, 15:07
Which means my ideal QC match is...Pintsize? :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 29 Apr 2013, 15:10
Which means my ideal QC match is...Pintsize? :psyduck:
Which explains your avatar. 8-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 29 Apr 2013, 15:25
Tally-ho.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mad Cat on 29 Apr 2013, 20:00
Ginger hair always has an agenda of its own. Usually one based on murder and mayhem.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 29 Apr 2013, 20:14
 It goes up the nose and makes it's way to the mouth from there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 29 Apr 2013, 20:57
I'd say her hair is too dark to be considered "ginger".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 29 Apr 2013, 22:24
I'd say her hair is too dark to be considered "ginger".
Yes, it's much closer to "auburn" than "ginger".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 29 Apr 2013, 23:11
I'd say her hair is too dark to be considered "ginger".
Yes, it's much closer to "auburn" than "ginger".

This Post approved by Captain Katherine Janeyway.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Xthform on 29 Apr 2013, 23:42
As a long time reader I honestly don't see this arc going anywhere I want it to go. As a staple of almost any webcomic I have ever read (VGcats being the sole expection) the writers seem far to concerned with public image to let this sort of relationship/racy situation see the light of day. As much as I love Jeph and quite a few other Webcomic writers they are at best a timid bunch when it comes to highly controversial topics. This arc will end with Marten and Claire being friends/close friends and nothing more. I simply do not see the backbone in Jeph to write this out to an interesting place.



If Scott Ramsoomair has the gale to write this comic http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=270 why can't Jeph make a comic where a pre op trans gender character has a relationship with a member of their current pre op sex.


This arc will be the deciding factor on whether or not Jeph has any balls of which to speak of.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 29 Apr 2013, 23:46
New comic.

 Yeah, there's no way she could do that   :-D .
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 29 Apr 2013, 23:48
Emily is Woyzeck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woyzeck#Plot_summary).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 29 Apr 2013, 23:52
"Got into a fight with Claire"? Have we been deprived of humourous action?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 29 Apr 2013, 23:57
Karma's a bitch Clinton.

New odd ball theory: Emily is Randy in human form.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sorflakne on 29 Apr 2013, 23:59
"Got into a fight with Claire"? Have we been deprived of humourous action?
I seem to remember that the last time we saw Emily she was running away from Clinton for some reason after finding him weird or something, so I thought she came back and decked him to make sure he wasn't a Terminator.  And then on realizing her error, she got an icepack out to help him recover.

I was wrong :(
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 30 Apr 2013, 00:00
Too bad, Sorflakne, that would have been excellent!  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 30 Apr 2013, 00:01
This arc will be the deciding factor on whether or not Jeph has any balls of which to speak of.

No, it will simply either be funny or not funny. Jeph is not here to serve our agendas (moderator) and insulting your host is bad manners(/moderator).

-----

So, Emily is the Angel of Peas?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 30 Apr 2013, 00:07
Emily is living proof of Chaos Theory.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Apr 2013, 00:11
I seem to remember that the last time we saw Emily she was running away from Clinton for some reason after finding him weird or something
That's not why she ran away. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2428)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 30 Apr 2013, 00:14
So what were Claire and Clinton fighting about?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 30 Apr 2013, 00:17
I guess Emily decided that for lunch, she would give peas a chance.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Apr 2013, 00:19
So what were Claire and Clinton fighting about?

I'd assume he means he stuck his foot down his throat and gave Claire her panic attack.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 30 Apr 2013, 00:30
I guess Emily decided that for lunch, she would give peas a chance.
Peas cannot be achieved through violence.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 30 Apr 2013, 00:37
Does anyone have a mental picture of the peas being whirled around?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TimO on 30 Apr 2013, 00:45
Karma's a bitch Clinton.  ...

Well, the universe giving Clinton a good whack on Claire's behalf does avoid Claire being seen as any sort of bad party, should her wrath be used against him, not that this is necessarily precluded, but I suspect this is all that we'll see in terms of Clinton being chided for his mistaken action.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 30 Apr 2013, 00:48
Does anyone have a mental picture of the peas being whirled around?
Yes, a Birds Eye view
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ChaoSera on 30 Apr 2013, 01:27
"Got into a fight with Claire"? Have we been deprived of humourous action?
I seem to remember that the last time we saw Emily she was running away from Clinton for some reason after finding him weird or something, so I thought she came back and decked him to make sure he wasn't a Terminator.  And then on realizing her error, she got an icepack out to help him recover.

I was wrong :(
Oh good, I wasn't the only one who thought this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bryntheskits on 30 Apr 2013, 01:57
If Scott Ramsoomair has the gale to write this comic http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=270 why can't Jeph make a comic where a pre op trans gender character has a relationship with a member of their current pre op sex.
The last time something non-PC happened the extreme Tumblr feminist underbelly caught a wiff of it, came out and drove him to the drink which ended in him stabbing himself, and that was only because there was one of the characters had low self-esteem. What do you think they would do if he "insulted" them a second time?

In the end Jeph has the final say in what happens and all we can do is speculate and not insult him because you "don't see this arc going anywhere I want it to go."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 30 Apr 2013, 02:03
You know who we need to see again? Jimbo. We probably haven't seen him lately since he was an author avatar.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 30 Apr 2013, 02:57
Confiding in Marten in the first place suggests that Claire is a good judge of character.

If she is, then she'll realize that Marten is a better choice for a Just A Really Good Friend than for a romantic partner.
For her, maybe. What about for him?
The two sets {Really Good Friend} and {Romantic Partner} are not disjoint - which is why you said Just a Really Good Friend. I'll withold judgment on the "just" bit. Everyone seems to be concerned about Claire's welfare - which is really nice of them. I'm trying to think about Marten's too, his life hasn't been easy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 30 Apr 2013, 03:03
If you're monogamous, then all of your romantic relationships end...until one doesn't.
Some romantic relationships last longer than others, but they all end.

Karma's a bitch Clinton.
Peas on hurt; goodwill to all sentient beings.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 30 Apr 2013, 03:06
In the last panel, we find out they switched bodies.
Which might be confusing, because today's strip involved a person whom already switched bodies. To their actual body from a wrong body. Despite never switching before.

Real life is stranger than fiction.
+1 Insightful and well put too.
i wonder if it could be accurately described as a casemod?

Meanwhile... I'm trying to imagine what it would be like to be in a chassis like Gordon's. Sort of a "+4 Dex, -15 Cha". How much of our opinions are based on appearances? Can we look behind someone's eyes, to see them rather than their body? Can we overcome our prejudices - though that's a bit of a tall order, I should de-scope.  Let's try "can I overcome my prejudices" based on appearance?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 30 Apr 2013, 03:07
Actually, Zoe, you just made me think of something interesting...

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1799
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2371

Both Dora and Claire have severe hangups about fidelity.

If Jeph does decide to explore a relationship between Marten and Claire, there could be some damn interesting storytelling, as a contrast to Dora. Dora had to be THREATENED WITH PHYSICAL VIOLENCE to get help for her issues, we haven't seen whether Claire has or not, but presumably not.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Apr 2013, 03:14
Karma's a bitch Clinton.
Peas on hurt; goodwill to all sentient beings.

As an Avatar of the Universal Powers of Hate and Discontent I don't think I'm legally allowed to express support for this sentiment. I suppose I'll have to check my contract later.

@Zoe: As someone who's done a lot of overcoming the past year, I don't think I'd ever get over my inborn automatic response of trying to kill Gordon with the nearest heavy object. Then again I'm so ridiculously arachnophobic it probably qualifies as something more severe....

@bhtooefr: I don't think Claire has the same level of severe hang ups Dora does. Fidelity yes, but Dora's are connected to some serious self worth issues. Claire obviously doesn't like the idea of cheaters or cheating in a monogamous relationship, and she has some anxiety issues, but that doesn't translate to Dora's screwed up psyche. Personal opinion: Claire's one of the most stable members of the cast. Not that that's a particularly hard competition to win...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 30 Apr 2013, 04:12
Claire's up there for stability with Marten and Angus.

No justice - no peas.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 30 Apr 2013, 04:21
If Scott Ramsoomair has the gale to write this comic http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=270 why can't Jeph make a comic where a pre op trans gender character has a relationship with a member of their current pre op sex.

If only Scott Ramsoomair would bother to POST a damn strip at least once a week instead of this wishy-washy schedule, perhaps your argument would hold some weight.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 30 Apr 2013, 04:29
Meanwhile... I'm trying to imagine what it would be like to be in a chassis like Gordon's. Sort of a "+4 Dex, -15 Cha". How much of our opinions are based on appearances? Can we look behind someone's eyes, to see them rather than their body? Can we overcome our prejudices - though that's a bit of a tall order, I should de-scope.  Let's try "can I overcome my prejudices" based on appearance?

Ah prejudice, it's a pain in the ass. Especially when it's your own prejudice that you're trying to overcome and you know you're behaving stupidly, but you still can't shake the automatic response.

Me, I'd pick an arachnoPC for my companion-anthroPC given the option. Gordon is cool. And he probably has all kinds of useful hardware functions.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 30 Apr 2013, 04:56
@Zoe: As someone who's done a lot of overcoming the past year, I don't think I'd ever get over my inborn automatic response of trying to kill Gordon with the nearest heavy object. Then again I'm so ridiculously arachnophobic it probably qualifies as something more severe....
I've had to eject two Huntsman spiders from the premisses recently. Catch and Release.
They can give a nasty bite, hurts and bleeds a lot.

I've also dealt with two redbacks. Their bites would be (not could be, would be)  fatal to my in-laws, both in their 90s. Those arachnids didn't get caught, they got neutralised with extreme prejudice.

Was I scared? Terrified, actually. But it needed doing.

One can, to some degree, overcome one's instincts. It helps to know that those instincts are causing you to act counterproductively, and this is important dammit!.

Catching the huntsmen - both as big as my hand - gave me the screaming meemies. After transition, I acquired arachnophobia I didn't have before - some neural re-wiring from the hormones I guess. That was unexpected, and I only became aware of it when visiting a friend's house, seeing his "dangerous spider recognition chart" (as I'd seen many times before without thinking anything more than "how useful") and nearly screaming.

The joys of living in Australia.

My bet is that if Gordon's life was in danger, and you knew for a fact that he was a person, you'd pick him up and take him to safety. THEN collapse in a screaming heap. Amnesia-inducing drugs would be appropriate therapy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 30 Apr 2013, 05:08
Ah prejudice, it's a pain in the ass. Especially when it's your own prejudice that you're trying to overcome and you know you're behaving stupidly, but you still can't shake the automatic response.
I've become aware of it through my own life experience. Not my personal situation, but I now mix with people I never would have before 2005.

Here's an exercise for those saying "Na, I don't rely on appearances to judge anyone". Two pictures. Before and after FFS.

Before:

(http://www.supornclinic.com/restricted/FFS/Results.aspx?fn=Case4PreOp.jpg)

After:

(http://www.supornclinic.com/restricted/FFS/Results.aspx?fn=Case4OneYear.jpg)

It's the same gal.

Until you can look at the first picture, and see behind the eyes the woman in the second, you won't Grok in Fullness. Until you can look at Gordon, and see Station - or Momo - behind the half-dozen eyes - you also will not Grok in Fullness. It's not easy.
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I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Xthform on 30 Apr 2013, 05:19
If Scott Ramsoomair has the gale to write this comic http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=270 why can't Jeph make a comic where a pre op trans gender character has a relationship with a member of their current pre op sex.
The last time something non-PC happened the extreme Tumblr feminist underbelly caught a wiff of it, came out and drove him to the drink which ended in him stabbing himself, and that was only because there was one of the characters had low self-esteem. What do you think they would do if he "insulted" them a second time?

In the end Jeph has the final say in what happens and all we can do is speculate and not insult him because you "don't see this arc going anywhere I want it to go."
A story writer passionate about his stories wouldn't let militant extremists control the context of their work. I'm also not insulting him, I've been reading QC since the beginning loving almost every minute of it but I've noticed a sad tone here as I do with nearly every other webcomic I read. No one seems to want to do anything risque and it's becoming extremely depressing to see a remotely interesting plot ruined for you because you know the writer 9 times outa 10 isn't going to take the non PC route. Case in point was why I linked the VGcat comic. There are people out there who don't care about being PC and are mildly successful, I just wish Jeph was more like that.

If Scott Ramsoomair has the gale to write this comic http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=270 why can't Jeph make a comic where a pre op trans gender character has a relationship with a member of their current pre op sex.

If only Scott Ramsoomair would bother to POST a damn strip at least once a week instead of this wishy-washy schedule, perhaps your argument would hold some weight.
Just because Scott doesn't update on a regular basis doesn't strip him of the fact that he isn't afraid to do something incredibly Non-PC so my argument is sound. Also if you want to get that kinda technical Jeph doesn't have a perfect update record either. I haven't seen Ryan and Lar over at Licd post a filler strip in sometime like 5 or 6 years? Despite going on con tours for months at a time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 30 Apr 2013, 05:57
There are people out there who don't care about being PC

And there are people who care about how others are treated and treat each other, regardless of ideology.  Jeph is like that, and he will make his own choices without reference to us anyway (he only rarely glances at this forum).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Xthform on 30 Apr 2013, 06:04
There are people out there who don't care about being PC

And there are people who care about how others are treated and treat each other, regardless of ideology.  Jeph is like that, and he will make his own choices without reference to us anyway (he only rarely glances at this forum).
All I'm saying is Tolkien wouldn't have changed the Hobbit if some militant Christians started throwing bricks at his house for corrupting the minds of children with his books about magic (Much the same way Dungeons and Dragons caught alot of hate).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 30 Apr 2013, 06:21
I think Xthform is actually referring to a different kind of PC than is normally used in the US context of people being "too PC", but still considering PC as a negative thing.

(For full context, a lot of rhetoric in the US considers using non-slur names and presenting minorities in a positive light, in the name of political correctness, to be pandering to those minorities, and therefore being PC is a bad thing (if you're a white cis straight God-fearin' all-'murrikan asshole male, anyway).)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Xthform is actually arguing that in reality, it's being PC to pander to the white cis straight Christian American male (abbreviated as WCSCAM from here, because screw all that typing) segment of the population, and being PC in that regard is a bad thing (which, IMO, it is). If I'm reading it right, he's also arguing that Jeph ends up being too PC in that definition, to prevent his audience from attacking him too much for being too PC in the standard US definition, which I disagree with - Jeph has changed dialogue before for the sake of not offending his audience, but just about every time, it's been for the sake of not offending MINORITIES, not to perpetuate the WCSCAM's perspective. And, he's been afraid to go down storylines not for reasons of offending the WCSCAMs, but rather for reasons of potentially offending the minorities he's portrayed (just read his comments re: the Claire storyline).

Not to mention, he portrays racial, sexual, and now gender minorities in a very positive light, and he DOES explore storylines involving those people in ways that would horrify the WCSCAM. (Well, you could argue the lesbian exception to the WCSCAMs being negative about homosexuality (which isn't positive, it's creepy, but at least it's not outright hatred) in the case of storylines involving Tai's personal life, but still.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 30 Apr 2013, 06:27
All I'm saying is Tolkien wouldn't have changed the Hobbit if some militant Christians started throwing bricks at his house for corrupting the minds of children with his books about magic (Much the same way Dungeons and Dragons caught alot of hate).

He's not going to change it just because you want the story to go a certain way, either.

The story will go the way it goes, and no matter what happens, one side will no doubt claim that Jeph didn't "have the guts" to write the story the way they wanted it to be written. In reality, Jeph will have his reasons for writing the story one way or another, and you are kidding yourself if you claim to really know those reasons.

Your OP is total nonsense. It's the worst kind of shipping, with a hefty dose of bullying thrown in for good measure. It ought to be treated the same way as any other shipping post on these forums.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 30 Apr 2013, 06:32
Keep in mind that there were verbal personal attacks on Jeph earlier, and he had a hard time dealing with it. I wouldn't resent Jeph for trying to avoid something like this, not implying that he does.

Jeph should do what he wants to do. It really isn't our business telling him how to do his job.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 30 Apr 2013, 06:45
Not that we haven't helped him (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28371.0.html) do his job before (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2316), though. ;)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 30 Apr 2013, 06:54
What's in store for us this week?

More Marten/Claire angst.    15 (22.7%)
Faye and Angus get into an argument.    0 (0%)
Marten gets the band a gig - a *paying* gig!    7 (10.6%)
Tai and Dora - the relationship deepens.    3 (4.5%)
One whole week of characters eating breakfast.    6 (9.1%)
Momo offers Claire the services of her Social Protocol Database.    4 (6.1%)
Momo ends up zapping Clinton (again).    5 (7.6%)
The reason for Gordon's reappearance is revealed!    15 (22.7%)
You ever wanna just sit and stare at the wall for, like, three hours?    3 (4.5%)
I think that describes my time reading the forums...    7 (10.6%)
(Insert "Waffles" or similar meme here.)    1 (1.5%)

Total Members Voted: 66
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 30 Apr 2013, 06:59
In regards to Clinton and today's comic... Karma is a bitch. :) I just wish it worked that efficiently in the real world...

As far as prejudices go, and dealing with people and their appearances... It can be a hard thing. I am pretty good at it in general. But there are still some things that seriously scare me and send me into panic attacks. Gordon, I could deal with because he is a very stylized looking spider. I would think more 'Tachikoma' than 'ohgodnokeepitaway'. Some spiders I have no problem with, or think are cute. Others... run screaming. In some cases because they could or would be dangerous to me.. but in others they just scare or disgust me... I would get the same reaction to a scorpion AnthroPC... I would try to get away, largely out of fear. It would take me a lot to overcome my aversion to that. A cockroach AnthroPC... would never even have a chance to prove themself to me. I would either be running screaming or attacking them.... I don't think anybody is completely free from prejudice. Some deal with it more than others. Some work harder to get over what prejudices they have. But I don't think anybody can ever get rid of them all. I would like to meet that person though...

As far as the story goes and whether or not there 'should' be some romance between Marten and Claire. That's really up to Jeph. From what I have seen in the rest of the comics, I trust that he will handle it respectfully and well. And we know that he is being extra careful with Claire, as he specifically doesn't want to offend anyone with her character and wants to portray her accurately.

That in mind, all of the major characters are flawed people, like everybody is, really. They all have their host of issues and problems and they all have their ways of dealing with or not dealing with them. Dora and Marten were good together for a while. And while in the end it was Dora's trust and self worth issues that caused the break up, Marten had his part in it with his passive/aggressive stance and his habit of always just 'going with the flow' and trying to 'not make any waves'. Good things in moderation, but not when you are running away from or avoiding problems and letting them build up. The same issues reared their head when it came to Faye and Padma. And likely any romantic relationship with Claire would run into similar issues. Marten will likely have to deal with his own personal issues before he gets into a good relationship, the way that Faye is working on hers.

I have not seen any indication that Marten thinks of Claire as anything other than another girl. Claire does seem to worry about that though, how other people see her. My thought was that her major worry about the Marten-snuggling was that he would feel somehow weirded out snuggling with a girl who wasn't 100% biologically female. But then that could be just me projecting....

Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 30 Apr 2013, 07:46
All I'm saying is Tolkien wouldn't have changed the Hobbit
He's not going to change it just because you want the story to go a certain way, either.

Though actually Tolkien did change The Hobbit, with a retcon to match the account Bilbo gave in The Lord of the Rings about how he got "Gollum's" ring.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 30 Apr 2013, 07:58
If Scott Ramsoomair has the gale to write this comic http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=270 why can't Jeph make a comic where a pre op trans gender character has a relationship with a member of their current pre op sex.

If only Scott Ramsoomair would bother to POST a damn strip at least once a week instead of this wishy-washy schedule, perhaps your argument would hold some weight.

He should have hung it up a long time ago. It was a great comic, but he doesn't care about it anymore, yet can't let go either.

To respond to the comparisons I don't think it's fair. VGcats has no continuity or long term storytelling. The controversial strip killed the main character and he was back 2 strips later. I don't know if Jeph has the guts to do a Claire and Marten romance. I'd lean towards 'probably not', but there's a whole lot more to consider. Where does the romance go? Will a shy girl like Claire fit in interacting with the main cast more?(I don't think so, except in a Marigoldish role and we've already got Marigold.) Is she the one? If not how do they eventually break up and where does the character go from there?

Now I'd love if tomorrow Tai walks into the office and Claire and Marten are making out as much as the next shipper. I don't know if that'd be the right move for the comic(Though I'd certainly love being proved wrong). And that's just it. It's not just a matter of if he's got the guts to do it, but if it's the right thing for the comic.

 If you don't consider that all a sudden it's jurasic park. And then Sara gets eaten by a dinosaur.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Xthform on 30 Apr 2013, 08:07
Keep in mind that there were verbal personal attacks on Jeph earlier, and he had a hard time dealing with it. I wouldn't resent Jeph for trying to avoid something like this, not implying that he does.

Jeph should do what he wants to do. It really isn't our business telling him how to do his job.
I wasn't so much trying to tell him how to write more so just venting something that has bothered me about web content lately. For the record I'm not even a fan of a Claire Marten shipping I just thought this was a chance to do something that would really push the envelope because no one ever takes those kinda risks anymore.

@bhtooefr
You are pretty spot on here and I know Jeph has done some great things with his writing for minorities and bi/gay people and I love him for that but rarely do I ever see something like a trans gender person make it into a main cast let alone a still transitioning one. I thought Jeph was really gonna go some place big with Claire you know rush headlong into uncharted waters and having this in transition M to F enter into a relationship with someone who knows what they are and what their going through and be willing to accept that would be something I've never seen before.


As I stated above I was never really pulling for a Claire Marten relationship but my need to push boundaries started screaming for this to happen. Everything these days is very scripted and predictable. I can't remember the last time I watched or read something I hadn't already guessed the conclusion of.


EDIT: I know I'm being incredibly selfish with what Im trying to get at but you'd be frustrated to if you'd gone 15 years without being truly impressed by something again.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Apr 2013, 08:26
He should have hung it up a long time ago.
I thought he did hang it up a long time ago. And I just looked, he's done about 20 strips since 2009, and three since 2011. That's not an irregular update schedule, that's occasionally coming out of retirement. There's no comparison between that and Jeph occasionally taking a sick day. (Also LICD occasionally posts a filler strip, not that their Con Tales aren't fun, though)
Though actually Tolkein did change The Hobbit, with a retcon to match the account Bilbo gave in The Lord of the Rings about how he got "Gollum's" ring.
What.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 30 Apr 2013, 08:29
That said, it would be a completely plausible storyline for Claire to not be interested in pursuing a relationship at all, let alone one with Marten, for many, many reasons:


Note that only one of those has anything to do with her being trans. Myself, I suspect that if Jeph went that way with the shiptease, he'd go for #2, because that shows Claire as flawed, but trying (as opposed to Dora, although that's not 100% fair to Dora now).

And, there's also plenty of reasons for it to not be Marten - his passivity in many situations would probably frustrate Claire to no end. Conversely, her intensity, if he's in an especially passive mood, or wanting to interact with her in some way other than what she's focusing on, could annoy him. (It could work really well, though - Marten's been shown as less passive lately (really, ever since right before the breakup, when Dora pushed him to the breaking point admittedly, but Dora also pushed him, AFTER the breakup, to actually get into the band stuff again, and he's been continuing with that without her pushing him further), especially in this arc, where he actively went to make sure Claire was OK, and actively helped her through the situation once she was able to interact with him. And, Marten's passivity could end up being a form of stability for Claire, and Claire's intensity could end up being a form of motivation for Marten.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 30 Apr 2013, 08:38
Though actually Tolkein did change The Hobbit, with a retcon to match the account Bilbo gave in The Lord of the Rings about how he got "Gollum's" ring.
What.

Well, it was explained in-universe as the previous account being from Bilbo's telling, where-as Frodo wrote down a more truthful account of what happened, which Bilbo had chosen to exclude.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 30 Apr 2013, 08:38
Though actually Tolkien did change The Hobbit, with a retcon to match the account Bilbo gave in The Lord of the Rings about how he got "Gollum's" ring.
What.

Details here (http://tolkien.cro.net/tolkien/changes.html).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 30 Apr 2013, 08:41
If the purpose of webcomics we don't write ourselves were to break new ground rather than entertain, it's worth noting that Jeph is breaking ground by having Claire be just another character. I gather from the comments of several trans people that this has been a breath of fresh air to them.

Quote from: Jeph
"The purpose is to entertain people for 15-30 seconds every weekday and also to make me money so I can buy food"

If anyone can't live without a comic up to their standards of edginess, well, the barriers to entry are low and it's welcome to promote it here -- there's a thread just for that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TimO on 30 Apr 2013, 08:42
... And, there's also plenty of reasons for it to not be Marten - his passivity in many situations would probably frustrate Claire to no end. Conversely, her intensity, if he's in an especially passive mood, or wanting to interact with her in some way other than what she's focusing on, could annoy him. ...

Which could of course make for an interesting story arc.  You really don't want relationships which work for a fictional tale, because that's boring.  Something with two characters at each other throats half the time makes for dynamic and interesting events.  Historically it was how Marten failed to get off with Faye and Padma (permanently) which probably made for interesting things happening.  We know that it's likely that any characters relationship is doomed to failure, because Happily-ever-after doesn't make for a good continuing storyline, only for the end of one, and I'd hope that Jeph isn't about to hang up his cartooning boots.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Apr 2013, 08:43
Though actually Tolkien did change The Hobbit, with a retcon to match the account Bilbo gave in The Lord of the Rings about how he got "Gollum's" ring.
What.

Details here (http://tolkien.cro.net/tolkien/changes.html).
Damn it, Tolkien.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 30 Apr 2013, 09:03
If the purpose of webcomics we don't write ourselves were to break new ground rather than entertain, it's worth noting that Jeph is breaking ground by having Claire be just another character. I gather from the comments of several trans people that this has been a breath of fresh air to them.

It really really is, for me at least. Just having a trans character is impressive. Handling them well is wonderful. Not making the entire character or comic be about them being trans is almost unheard of. Though in fairness to that, most comics which feature trans characters are focused on trans or LGBT stuff, so it's natural and normal that most of the comic revolves around those issues.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Apr 2013, 10:15
@Zoe: As someone who's done a lot of overcoming the past year, I don't think I'd ever get over my inborn automatic response of trying to kill Gordon with the nearest heavy object. Then again I'm so ridiculously arachnophobic it probably qualifies as something more severe....
My bet is that if Gordon's life was in danger, and you knew for a fact that he was a person, you'd pick him up and take him to safety. THEN collapse in a screaming heap. Amnesia-inducing drugs would be appropriate therapy.

Probably, I mean Gordon seems quite pleasant, his chassis just flips my beserker switch.

I have tried to over come my arachnophobia, to that end I know a lot about spiders, I've let tarantulas walk on me, I've watch movies, read books, met with experts in the field of spiders  and talked to them. Mentally I respect them as one of nature's oldest and most effective predators. This does not stop me flipping out the buttered fuck crumpets and terminating with extreme prejudice when I see a common house spider. I'm not sure what I'd do dealing with a Huntsman. Probably wake up 24 hours later to a destroyed house and wonder what the hell just happened.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 30 Apr 2013, 15:06
Though actually Tolkien did change The Hobbit, with a retcon to match the account Bilbo gave in The Lord of the Rings about how he got "Gollum's" ring.
What.

Details here (http://tolkien.cro.net/tolkien/changes.html).
Damn it, Tolkien.

It's not that surprising. He did spend his entire life rewriting and reworking everything he'd ever written, never quite finding satisfaction with it all.

(perhaps this is also/more relevant to the thread on comic #10)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 30 Apr 2013, 15:32
I've had to eject two Huntsman spiders from the premisses recently. Catch and Release.
I am not supposed to kill creepy-crawlies, so I have quite a arsenal of catch-&-release kit. The key weapons are transparent plastic bowls with wooden knobs glued to the base. This allows me to hold the bowl securely, and see the spider etc. through the plastic as I slap the bowl over it. Then I slide a sheet of plastic between the bowl and the wall, floor etc. and take the captured creature outside. As Zoë says, Huntsmen are big and I need my "B-52" 200mm diameter catcher for them. There are Redbacks and occasional Funnel-Webs in my garden, along with the odd poisonous snake. Yes, welcome to Australia.

I have no problem with spiders of any size, but I don't like cockroaches. They really creep me out for some reason, and I sometimes kill them even though I know I should not.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Redball on 30 Apr 2013, 15:54
In Bombay in the 1960s, I expended a lot of DDT on cockroaches. They infested two places in our apartment: Under the sink and inside the intricately-folded cardboard bookcase provided by the Peace Corps at the time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 30 Apr 2013, 17:39
Spiders are very much friends in our household, and usually (though not always*) enjoy careful escort into the back yard.

Cockroaches do not enjoy such privileged treatment. Nor do indian mynas (http://www.abc.net.au/tv/wildwatch/results/award.htm). Their only reward, if caught, is a swift death.

* They occasionally get to stay put if they are not bothering anyone and are safe from our resident cat.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 30 Apr 2013, 17:48
Barring going Hitchcock, how can a bird be that bad?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bryntheskits on 30 Apr 2013, 17:58
Quote
They are territorial and highly aggressive birds who compete with and displace native wildlife for habitat areas. They take over tree hollows and plug up nest sites they are not using, forcing possums and birds out and ejecting nestlings and eggs from their nests.  They also compete with native fauna for food and habitat.
Source (http://www.abc.net.au/tv/wildwatch/results/award.htm)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 30 Apr 2013, 18:02
When I was a kid, I often used to choose a package of frozen peas when I was out and my mom offered to buy me a snack.  My mom found this...unusual.  She might *still* be telling her friends about her daughter and the frozen peas.  I'm so glad to have Emily for company in this!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Apr 2013, 18:05
Wow, that bird makes Yelling Bird seem like a pleasant individual.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 30 Apr 2013, 18:14
My thought was that her major worry about the Marten-snuggling was that he would feel somehow weirded out snuggling with a girl who wasn't 100% biologically female. But then that could be just me projecting....
Or me. Same issue here. Plus me getting weirded out too - just because you're Trans/Intersex doesn't prevent you from feeling the same Transphobia that many others do. It can be inconvenient on a personal basis, but also useful as it allows you to see the Transphobes as merely human, like yourself. Not innately bad. This really is a case of "to understand all is to forgive all" and to laugh at the inconsistent illogicalities of being human. Kindness is the answer of course, to forgive yourself, so forgiving others becomes not just trivial, but inescapable.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 30 Apr 2013, 18:33
oh god.

i googled huntsman spiders.

i do not have any kind of arachnophobia but those guys give me the heebiejeebies. i would, as was said by someone else earlier, probably wind up destroying with extreme predujice if i met one IRL.

*shudders*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 30 Apr 2013, 19:40
They are scary looking, but they pretty much keep to themselves. Plus they eat cockroaches. Enemy of my enemy, and all that jazz.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jeanramone on 30 Apr 2013, 20:09
I've got a pet Huntsman called Harry. He's pretty chill.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 30 Apr 2013, 22:24
oh god.

i googled huntsman spiders.

i do not have any kind of arachnophobia but those guys give me the heebiejeebies. i would, as was said by someone else earlier, probably wind up destroying with extreme predujice if i met one IRL.

*shudders*
No, Huntsmen are "catch and release". They're ... about as harmless as you can get for a venomous creature in Australia. They just look scary. Ok, terrifying. 20cm B-52 size Spider Trappers definitely appropriate.

Redbacks are far less menacing in appearance, but actually deadly to the elderly and very young, and painful to adults. Those are the ones I take no chances with.

There is a typically Australian  tragic ballad concerning a victim of one of these creatures.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 30 Apr 2013, 22:27
Meanwhile, back at the library - bad pea puns irritate Emily.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Apr 2013, 22:29
Ha, no! She loved that pun. She just wanted to be the one to say it! (Have we ever seen Emily sad?)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Apr 2013, 22:30
Ugh, someone suspend Claire's license to comedy. It just doesn't work.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Apr 2013, 22:32
It's not the pun that's bad, it's her interrupting. I should give her a peas of my mind.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MillionDollar Belt Sander on 30 Apr 2013, 22:33
Possible DRAMA,  which may lead to CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Apr 2013, 22:35
Doubtful, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 30 Apr 2013, 22:41
This is the second? time we've seen claire's  :mrgreen: face.

I love it. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 30 Apr 2013, 22:42
Attempting puns around Emily seems to produce what the old IBM manuals called "unpredictable results".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Apr 2013, 22:44
Attempting puns around Emily seems to produce what the old IBM manuals called "unpredictable results".

FTFY
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 30 Apr 2013, 22:46
This is the second? time we've seen claire's  :mrgreen: face.

 It's the third time.
 One (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2305),  Two (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2367),  Three (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2437).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: EspyPsyche on 30 Apr 2013, 22:48
Creepy insect things do not get a pass in my home. I exterminate with extreme prejudice and maximum firepower. Whether it be spiders (which I know aren't actually insects), roaches, or anything else with more legs than a cat, it has to die. I even own a high-power sprayer with a fogger setting for killing wasps and anything else bee-like. Out on the street, I don't exterminate, but in my home (or at the public pool when I used to be a supervisor) I definitely exterminate. At the pool, it was a public safety hazard to have stinging insects, venomous spiders, or anything that bites.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 30 Apr 2013, 22:52
Yeah, claire's punning leaves much to be desired. But that home at the lake had me cracking up for a few minutes straight.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 30 Apr 2013, 22:57
It's not the pun that's bad, it's her interrupting. I should give her a peas of my mind.
Even peas may be purchased at too high a price.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Apr 2013, 22:58
Yes, peas sell, but who's buying?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 30 Apr 2013, 22:59
(http://i.imgur.com/SBRjTkQ.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Matheyus on 30 Apr 2013, 23:02
I wonder if Thursday's comic will show an attempt at a-peas-ment.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Apr 2013, 23:04
Haven't been on Twitter in ages. I've missed all the QC cast's tweets, didn't even know Claire was on it. Argh.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 30 Apr 2013, 23:05
Perhaps Emily's face reflects her belief in the saying "If you would have peas, prepare for war".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 30 Apr 2013, 23:06
We just need to appease Emily.    :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 30 Apr 2013, 23:06
I guess Emily decided that for lunch, she would give peas a chance.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2437]Giving peas a chance? (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2437)
Well, I guess the secret is out, though I'm sure some of you suspected it. The truth is, I am- wow, this is hard. Okay. I am Claire.

(http://i.imgur.com/SBRjTkQ.jpg)
And I can't figure out why. Wordplay is funny, right? ...Right?

If she had stuck around, I would have asked Emily if it was difficult to have so many peas on her palate.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Truec on 30 Apr 2013, 23:09
I begin to suspect that Emily actively tries to be quirky, rather than it being a natural condition.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bryntheskits on 30 Apr 2013, 23:15
(click to show/hide)

Oh man that joke was so bad it was good hahahaha
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 30 Apr 2013, 23:42
So it is was not just sibling rivalry. She habitually ruin other people's moments in the spotlight. This was not as bad as 2305, since she did not know Emily would react like that, but it is still anoying.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sorflakne on 30 Apr 2013, 23:51
Whoa, Emily got angry.  Was Claire's joke really that bad?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cam94509 on 30 Apr 2013, 23:56
Whoa, Emily got angry.  Was Claire's joke really that bad?
Seriously, that was a face of sheer disgust. The joke wasn't that bad.

I do not understand why the other QC characters react the way they do to Claire's puns.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 01 May 2013, 00:05
Perhaps Emily's face reflects her belief in the saying "If you would have peas, prepare for war".
“Fighting for peas is like screwing for virginity.”
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 01 May 2013, 00:11
Whoa, Emily got angry.  Was Claire's joke really that bad?

No - but she stole Emily's chance to say it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 01 May 2013, 00:39
Whoa, Emily got angry.  Was Claire's joke really that bad?

No - but she stole Emily's chance to say it.

Exactly. That is the face of someone who's just had her punchline stolen.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 01 May 2013, 00:43
*cough* actually it really was that bad. It's the reactions that make the comic funny, not the bad gag.

Claire's delivery bad; Jeph's delivery good.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TimO on 01 May 2013, 00:50
I like Claire's "pun face", although it looks to me a bit like she's optimistically waiting for people to laugh at her, still it's kind of cute.

Australia has far too many creepy and venomous things.  I'm not particularly afraid of spiders, but I can't say I'm an enthusiast, so the UK's relative paucity of such things suits me.  If I find a spider in the bath (or anywhere else for that matter), it'll be evicted out the window with a bit of card.  If one of my cats find it, it'll likely be chased across the floor a paw at a time, and possibly up the wall if that proves at all possible!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 01 May 2013, 00:59
"...like screwing for virginity.”

Not altogether fair, since that is by far the most common method of increasing the number of virgins.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 01 May 2013, 01:00
"...like screwing for virginity.”

Not altogether fair, since that is by far the most common method of increasing the number of virgins.

and decreasing them at the same time, odd how that works no?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 01 May 2013, 01:04
Not necessarily decreasing them at the same time, no.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: katsmeat on 01 May 2013, 01:05
I begin to suspect that Emily actively tries to be quirky, rather than it being a natural condition.

Today's comic gave me similar thoughts, but for now I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. Being odd doesn't mean a person can't occasionally try to be funny. Or that their idea of humour must, by definition, always be baffling.

it's perfectly possibly to be both an oblivious, kooky oddball, who's under the impression they're perfectly normal, and also be pissed-off when somebody swipes your joke. In fact, you could say that occasional flashes of neurotypicality make Emily more of a character and less of a caricature.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 01 May 2013, 01:16
She has seemed completely artless sometimes.

We could speculate that she got pigeonholed early on as "the odd one" and chose to make the best of the role by cultivating it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 01 May 2013, 01:32
Awwww, c'mon Emily peas don't go. That joke was kinda cute.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 01 May 2013, 01:40
Not necessarily decreasing them at the same time, no.

I wanted to research the question what the (virgins devirgined):(new virgins created) during standard sexual intercourse would be.

I looked and found this study (http://www.cpc.unc.edu/projects/addhealth). It did not answer my questions, but raised a few eyebrows. The whole dataset can be downloaded here (http://www.icpsr.umich.edu/icpsrweb/ICPSR/studies/21600/datasets). I used this PDF (http://www.icpsr.umich.edu/cgi-bin/file?comp=none&study=21600&ds=1&file_id=1044919).

Among other things, people were asked to imagine their perfect relationship, given a deck with cards with events such as "we would kiss", "we would get married" etc and throw out the ones that don't imagine happening in their perfect relationship (page 460 and following of the PDF). Afterwards, sort the cards they kept by "what would the first/second/... stage of said perfect relationship be".

Apparently, 13 out of 6345 of the participants consider "my partner or I would get pregnant" the ideal first step in a relationship  :psyduck: Interestingly, that's one more than the "ideal first step would be sex" group.

In other news, 466 out of 6380 participants do not consider "we would kiss" to be part of their perfect relationship. 3533 out of 6380 would not have sex.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 01 May 2013, 01:43
Were those unisex peas, or chick peas?

After a visit to Hubbert Pharmaceuticals, might they have been snow peas?

Is Emily pea nuts?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 01 May 2013, 01:48
"...like screwing for virginity.”

Not altogether fair, since that is by far the most common method of increasing the number of virgins.

"Virginity", not "virgins".  Kinda like how division on rationals produces rationals, but does nothing much for rationality.  8-)

Obligatory punned quote:

"The quest for peas begins in the home, in the school and in the workplace."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 01 May 2013, 02:24
Arguably, this one begins in the college library.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 01 May 2013, 02:57
Punchline swiping is bad. That big pile of peas reminded me of a piece of doggerel I read once:

"I eat my peas with honey;
 I've done it all my life.
 It makes the peas taste funny,
 But it keeps them on the knife."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rimwolf on 01 May 2013, 03:14
Doggerel? It could be verse.

Emily looks peaved.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 01 May 2013, 03:23
Don't be upset, Emily, a pun like that isn't hard to make.

In fact, it's easy-peasy-Japanesey.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ChaoSera on 01 May 2013, 03:29
It seems like this is really not Emiliy's day. Her mad face his hilarious though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 01 May 2013, 03:49
Peas: it's what we all want, but no two people can agree on how to achieve it.

Claire is certainly not adverse to dishing out pun-ishment. I liked it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 01 May 2013, 03:53
"I eat my peas with honey;
 I've done it all my life.
 It makes the peas taste funny,
 But it keeps them on the knife."


In my mind this leads on to:

I wish I was a little grub
With whiskers round my tummy.
I'd climb into the honey pot
And make my tummy gummy.


Reputed to be a signal from a bored warship in the South Atlantic during the early stages of WWII.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: RedWolf4 on 01 May 2013, 03:59
Allied merchant ships were the first NightPosters, it seems.

And yes, Emily indeed looks like someone who had her punchline nicked out from under her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 01 May 2013, 04:19
I wonder if Thursday's comic will show an attempt at a-peas-ment.

Peas in our time?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: RedWolf4 on 01 May 2013, 04:21
Not if we're taken apart peas-meal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 01 May 2013, 04:22
I begin to suspect that Emily actively tries to be quirky, rather than it being a natural condition.

Peas is her profession, is what you're saying?

Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 01 May 2013, 04:30
(http://i.imgur.com/SBRjTkQ.jpg)

(click to show/hide)

Great, even for a fictional character's twitter these people are around.. :meh:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 01 May 2013, 05:55
Some people are born a**holes, some people have a**holishness thrust upon them.  That person manages to make those people look like reasonable human beings.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 01 May 2013, 06:10
This is one of those times Jeph hits on all cylinders.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 01 May 2013, 06:13
About time someone got Emily so good she couldn't even think up a retort but to walk away.

I love her expression in the last panel.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: J on 01 May 2013, 06:15
emily's all like: "bitch, peas"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 May 2013, 06:18
"I eat my peas with honey;
 I've done it all my life.
 It makes the peas taste funny,
 But it keeps them on the knife."

I don't get it. Who eats peas with a knife?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: J on 01 May 2013, 06:23
"I eat my peas with honey;
 I've done it all my life.
 It makes the peas taste funny,
 But it keeps them on the knife."

I don't get it. Who eats peas with a knife?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8wZ9nxPd68
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 May 2013, 06:25
Do people actually eat peas like that? :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: WAYF on 01 May 2013, 06:34
So, apparently making really lame puns is one of Claire's defining characteristics.
I like it. ;D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mad Cat on 01 May 2013, 06:51
Em's sad, because Claire's a thief.

She stole Emily's thunder.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 01 May 2013, 06:52
I don't get it. Who eats peas with a knife?

Children; who thus need a ditty to gently shame them out of it.

Altenatively, it's a reflection on the impracticability of it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 May 2013, 06:53
Wait, that's the intention of the poem? If anything it gives kids an idea on how to make peas sweeter and less healthy. Also kind of badass.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 01 May 2013, 06:55
emily's all like: "bitch, peas"
"Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peas."

... that's not the word I was expecting, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 01 May 2013, 07:21
Wait, that's the intention of the poem? If anything it gives kids an idea on how to make peas sweeter and less healthy. Also kind of badass.

When that poem originated, people's concern with food was not how healthy it was, but whether there would be enough, or any.  Keeping every last pea on the knife rather than wasting some by dropping them must have been important in those days ;).  There's also the matter of manners (http://restaurant-ingthroughhistory.com/2011/05/08/etiquette-violations-eating-off-your-knife/), especially in Britain (http://resources.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/behaviourfood.html).

PS: I enjoy winding people up, so long as it's harmless fun!

PPS: Have peas with mashed potato - then you can take a lump of mash on your fork and stick the peas to it to eat.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 01 May 2013, 07:38
I don't get it. Who eats peas with a knife?

Children; who thus need a ditty to gently shame them out of it.

Altenatively, it's a reflection on the impracticability of it.
I can't imagine being slow enough as a kid to think that putting round things on a flat thing would work as a method of transportation to my mouth. But then, I wouldn't use a fork as appears to be the norm either. It's clearly a spoon food.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 01 May 2013, 10:12
She has seemed completely artless sometimes.

We could speculate that she got pigeonholed early on as "the odd one" and chose to make the best of the role by cultivating it.

I don't think so. I think she is completely oblivious. Unlike Raven, who is playing the airhead on purpose.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: de_la_Nae on 01 May 2013, 10:16
This comic made me so happy you have no idea.

EDIT: I will allow that you have an idea, especially since I indicated it one line prior.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 01 May 2013, 10:18
IDK, I don't think raven is intentionally dim. You can have a massive IQ and be quite stupid very easily. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jmucchiello on 01 May 2013, 10:22
I'm disappointed in Emily. She should have had a backup peas pun since her primary joke was so easy to figure out. I'm disappointed that got mad at being out-clevered.

I don't some of the responders here have read the title of today's comic based on their reactions.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 01 May 2013, 10:33
I don't even think Raven's DIM per se, she just doesn't have knowledge about various pop culture things (and doesn't desire to expand that knowledge), and that means that she makes herself look like an idiot when she demonstrates that lack of knowledge.

And she's got a bit of the cloud cuckoolander thing going on, too. Although not to Emily's extent.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 May 2013, 11:25
But then, I wouldn't use a fork as appears to be the norm either. It's clearly a spoon food.
Yeah, my mom used to get mad at me for eating rice and peas with a spoon, instead of a fork like I apparently ought to. I use a fork now for both things, mostly out of convenience (I already have a fork out to eat the other stuff on my plate, why use one more utensil if I don't have to?)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Idontunderstandthejoke on 01 May 2013, 16:20
I literally made this account because I do not understand the joke/pun?? Is it like supposed to be a play on words like.. peas a chance... pizza chance?? Is peas a chance supposed to mean something? Please I am 100% serious and this is going to be the only time I use the forum I just want some answers I feel so stupid.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 01 May 2013, 16:29
peas=peace in this case. They sound very similar. Give peace a chance.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 01 May 2013, 16:30
"Give peace a chance" - John Lennon
"Give peas a chance" - pun
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 01 May 2013, 16:46
I am oddly jealous of that username.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 01 May 2013, 16:56
(http://i.imgur.com/SBRjTkQ.jpg)

(click to show/hide)

Great, even for a fictional character's twitter these people are around.. :meh:

I laughed and am a terrible person.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 01 May 2013, 17:58
That big pile of peas reminded me of a piece of doggerel I read once:

"I eat my peas with honey;
 I've done it all my life.
 It makes the peas taste funny,
 But it keeps them on the knife."


I remember reading that in one of the early "Little House... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Little_House_on_the_Prairie_books)" books by Laura Ingalls Wilder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Ingalls_Wilder) when I was a kid. Can't remember which one, though.

Wait, that's the intention of the poem? If anything it gives kids an idea on how to make peas sweeter and less healthy. Also kind of badass.

I think it was just intended as a nonsense poem or song to entertain children. I don't know what the original tune was, if any, but I've heard it sung to the tune of "Oh! Susanna", which itself is full of nonsense lyrics; for example, "It rained all day the night I left / The weather was so dry". (It wasn't part of the original lyrics to "Oh! Susanna" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh!_Susanna), however.)

This page (http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/i_eat_my_peas_with_honey_ive_done_it_all_my_life/) has some info about the earliest known references to this poem/song.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 01 May 2013, 23:33
I literally made this account because I do not understand the joke/pun?? Is it like supposed to be a play on words like.. peas a chance... pizza chance?? Is peas a chance supposed to mean something? Please I am 100% serious and this is going to be the only time I use the forum I just want some answers I feel so stupid.

Here's the original, note the chorus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkZC7sqImaM

and yes, it's a pretty simple single word pun between "peas" <> "peace"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Matheyus on 01 May 2013, 23:37
Hopefully Emily will realize that Claire didn't mean to steal her thunder; she should give her the beanefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 01 May 2013, 23:40
Emily's probably more the type who would take Claire back to the lake house and toss her into the legume.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: henri bemis on 01 May 2013, 23:42
I cannot stop cracking up over the last panel.  Emily's expression!  Storming off with her plate of peas!  Someone as punny as Claire should know better than to steal someone else's punchline.  (does that even count?)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Matheyus on 01 May 2013, 23:44
Emily's probably more the type who would take Claire back to the lake house and toss her into the legume.

That could be dangerous; muskrats aren't always peasful creatures.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 01 May 2013, 23:46
Emily's probably more the type who would take Claire back to the lake house and toss her into the legume.

To let her rest in peas, you mean?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 02 May 2013, 01:20
WTB a new peas pun.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 02 May 2013, 01:24
Peas just stop this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 02 May 2013, 01:25
It all falls into place now.

Emily is a pod person.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 02 May 2013, 02:17
I cannot stop cracking up over the last panel.  Emily's expression!  Storming off with her plate of peas!  Someone as punny as Claire should know better than to steal someone else's punchline.  (does that even count?)

No
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 02 May 2013, 02:21
Poor Emily.

Perhaps some herbs might help. Peas in our Thyme.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 02 May 2013, 02:29
 Does Emily eat peas just for the pun?

 Also, poor Emily :'< .

 PS: I spotted Joyce  :-D .
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 02 May 2013, 02:31
Poor Emily.

Perhaps some herbs might help. Peas in our Thyme.

http://xkcd.com/282/


Poor Emily. As a typical member of the XY persuasion, I cannot stand to see a woman cry.

I sense character development for Emily.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 02 May 2013, 02:32
Ouch. No joy for Emily.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ChaoSera on 02 May 2013, 02:34
Aw man, I laughed so hard at the comic and immediately after that felt really bad for it. Emily really can't catch a break, it would seem.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TimO on 02 May 2013, 02:43
Poor Emily.

Perhaps some herbs might help.  Peas in our Thyme.

Indeed, poor Emily.  Is it sad that I feel sad for a fictional character?

Oh, and bad pun, utterly dreadful, go to the back of the queue, with half of the other posters on here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 02 May 2013, 02:49
Poor Emily. :cry:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 02 May 2013, 03:01
I join in with all saying poor emily. :(

Does Emily eat peas just for the pun?

i would say its not something she DOES, but it wouldn't surprise me if she did it as a one time thing just for the pun.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 02 May 2013, 03:24
I wonder how acute Emily's sadness is. It seems like she has virtually no friends, and is she now feels betrayed, somehow, by her new friends and coworkers, it might feel disproportionally bad for her. I hope she gets a break soon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 02 May 2013, 03:40
I am sad for Emily. But puns are not everyone's cup of pea. "You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run..."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 02 May 2013, 03:43
Enough with the jokes! It has bean enough!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: WAYF on 02 May 2013, 03:46
Emily is the hyperbole in all of us. :(
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 02 May 2013, 03:56
I see Joyce (http://www.dumbingofage.com/) and Daisy (http://scarygoround.com/scare/index.php).  Anyone else?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2013, 03:58
cup of pea
Say this out loud and you'll realize why you should never use this pun again.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 02 May 2013, 04:00
I see Joyce (http://www.dumbingofage.com/) and Daisy (http://scarygoround.com/scare/index.php).  Anyone else?

I agree. I'm not sure the guy is supposed to be a known character, but those two are pretty obvious.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Vurogj on 02 May 2013, 04:05
Woah, Hanners is going to be upset that she made someone cry for (to her) no preasonable reason isn't she? This could use some analysis. Contented Questionners, activate!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 02 May 2013, 04:08
I think it makes more sense that Hanners is going to fix things for Emily - she is very good at keeping herself stable when she can be there for others.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2013, 04:09
Quote from: Jeph
RIP terrible pun
rest in peas
:parrot:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: tut21 on 02 May 2013, 04:12
Decent pun, terrible character.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2013, 04:36
Give several reasons why.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 02 May 2013, 04:40
Poor Emily.

Perhaps some herbs might help. Peas in our Thyme.

Last time we tried that line it didn't work out so well...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 02 May 2013, 04:45
For a moment I thought that Emily went to CoD because she got to pea.

Edit: Ninja'd by Akima. I think?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mad Cat on 02 May 2013, 04:53
Poor Emily.

Perhaps some herbs might help.  Peas in our Thyme.

Indeed, poor Emily.  Is it sad that I feel sad for a fictional character?

Oh, and bad pun, utterly dreadful, go to the back of the queue, with half of the other posters on here.
To be fair, she really needs to try it with someone other than the two most enigmatic characters in the QC-verse, outside of an alcoholic hallucination or angry stand-in avian.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 02 May 2013, 05:44
I see recent comics and this thread have induced many people to compete for the title of Pungeon Master (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PungeonMaster) (WARNING: TV Tropes link! Do not click if you had anything else important to do today. Like work. Or eat. Or bathe. Or sleep...)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Hybris on 02 May 2013, 06:15
The last couple of comics with Emily as a major focus have really cemented why I don't like her character.

Emily appears to be thick headed a bit like Raven is some respects but while Raven had skills that suggested that she was actually an intelligent woman who has a naive streak a mile wide.

Emily thus far seems to be thick headed with no signs of any skills or useful traits in fact I think it will come out soon that she has a mental disorder or two to explain her level of chaos.

It's been a long time since I have last posted but Emily has finally got me riled up enough to come back and post.  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 02 May 2013, 06:16
I am sad for Emily. But puns are not everyone's cup of pea. "You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run..."
She went to Coffee of Doom for the Cup o' Pea special.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Boiled Dove on 02 May 2013, 06:19
I think it makes more sense that Hanners is going to fix things for Emily - she is very good at keeping herself stable when she can be there for others.

I agree, if she can focus on someone else her own neuroses seem to loose their hold on her.

I like Emily and hope to see her happy again soon. She is a bit quirky and that is fun.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 02 May 2013, 06:20
But puns are not everyone's cup of pea.

"Cup of pea", huh? It looks a bit too much like "cup of pee" to me.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 02 May 2013, 06:35
Poor, Emily.  Sometimes you gotta know when to give a bad pun up before something like that happens.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 02 May 2013, 06:41
And Hanners was probably the single worst person in-comic to try that pun on (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1007).

(Claire at least got the pun, she just stole Emily's thunder there.)

And, count me in the "meh @ Emily" group.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: starkruzr on 02 May 2013, 06:48
Do people ever actually get ANGRY at bad puns? Ever? Or is that just a comic strip trope?  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 02 May 2013, 06:55
Emily has poor impulse control and boundary issues. Raven alternately presented brilliance and utter ignorance. Emily =/= Raven
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: CleoKat on 02 May 2013, 06:56
The last couple of comics with Emily as a major focus have really cemented why I don't like her character.

Emily appears to be thick headed a bit like Raven is some respects but while Raven had skills that suggested that she was actually an intelligent woman who has a naive streak a mile wide.

Emily thus far seems to be thick headed with no signs of any skills or useful traits in fact I think it will come out soon that she has a mental disorder or two to explain her level of chaos.

It's been a long time since I have last posted but Emily has finally got me riled up enough to come back and post.  :roll:

I posted (last week, I think) that I really wasn't enjoying Emily because she's lacking any form of depth. She's just 'zany' and this whole pun thing is really tedious.

A 'mental disorder' is not why she is like she is. I'd be careful of thinking in those terms that weird must equal a mental health/dysfunction issue because it reduces people to a diagnosis and not a person. I trust Jeph not to use that storyline because he's written characters with various disorders and anxiety issues so beautifully before.

I mainly think that Emily hasn't been fleshed out at all. Maybe she has got issues but right now, she's just 'ha ha, oh Emily, you kooky chick!' and that's it. I don't care about her at all, she's a throwaway (with a kickass haircut). I've been hoping that the little hints that Emily's struggled to make and keep friends might be elaborated on (she's gone from loner to a group without much of a reaction/adjustment/trouble), or she could talk about/use her degree (computing stuff?) or perhaps she could have a conversation with someone that isn't played for laughs but so far that hasn't happened. I've come to write-off Emily updates and I'm sad about that because Jeph seems to love her.   

Maybe the next update will be a Hanners and Emily moment where something real and tangible happens. Here's hoping.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lostdreams on 02 May 2013, 07:08
Decent pun, terrible character.

It's pretty hard to make that call at this point in time.  Though she's been comic relief in several strips, her character hasn't really gone anywhere yet.  Disappointingly, even through the party arc (at her own house!) she took a backseat to Claire, Hannelore, and even Marigold, and was never really visited except to establish that she has parents, a large house, and no other friends.  Until we see some depth added, she's left witha a very "Outdoors Pint-size" feel, though even Jeph has revealed a deeper side (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2332) to Pint-size from time to time.

Ninja'd by last post  :-\  but I'm keeping it for the Pint-Size bit.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Delator on 02 May 2013, 07:13
I mainly think that Emily hasn't been fleshed out at all. Maybe she has got issues but right now, she's just 'ha ha, oh Emily, you kooky chick!' and that's it. I don't care about her at all, she's a throwaway (with a kickass haircut). I've been hoping that the little hints that Emily's struggled to make and keep friends might be elaborated on (she's gone from loner to a group without much of a reaction/adjustment/trouble), or she could talk about/use her degree (computing stuff?) or perhaps she could have a conversation with someone that isn't played for laughs but so far that hasn't happened. I've come to write-off Emily updates and I'm sad about that because Jeph seems to love her.

You said basically everything I wanted to say.

I'm thankful for that, cause it saves me the effort.

*tips cap*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 02 May 2013, 07:41
Do people ever actually get ANGRY at bad puns? Ever? Or is that just a comic strip trope?  :psyduck:

I don't see anyone getting angry at a pun here. Claire, seeing it coming, steals it. Hannelore just takes the statement at face value. No anger.

It is Emily, who started the whole thing, who gets angry with Claire for stealing her punchline.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: dunnright on 02 May 2013, 08:00
I see Joyce (http://www.dumbingofage.com/) and Daisy (http://scarygoround.com/scare/index.php).  Anyone else?

YES! I came here specifically to see if anyone else noticed Daisy, but I wasn't sure about the other girl. As soon as I saw you're post I said Yes! Joyce!

I did... I actually said that.....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: CleoKat on 02 May 2013, 08:13
Decent pun, terrible character.

It's pretty hard to make that call at this point in time.  Though she's been comic relief in several strips, her character hasn't really gone anywhere yet.  Disappointingly, even through the party arc (at her own house!) she took a backseat to Claire, Hannelore, and even Marigold, and was never really visited except to establish that she has parents, a large house, and no other friends.  Until we see some depth added, she's left witha a very "Outdoors Pint-size" feel, though even Jeph has revealed a deeper side (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2332) to Pint-size from time to time.

Ninja'd by last post  :-\  but I'm keeping it for the Pint-Size bit.

Oooh, I've ninja'd someone, and I thought I was having a very unproductive day ;)

The Pintsize comparison is really interesting. That strip happens to be one of my favourites as it touched one of a the squishier parts of my heart. Pintsize has a purpose, desires and hobbies (yes, some of them are porn but some of them are making snow Terminators, funny hats and Supa-Roombas etc) and many of his reactions are natural, like when he got upset at being left behind (god that was ages ago) All in all, he's a pretty awesome character.

Oh and @Delator Glad I could save you some effort :) 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: katsmeat on 02 May 2013, 08:41
Puns aside, she does at least seem to like peas for their own sake, giving the impression of possibly being a connoisseur of them ....

2330 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2330)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DrBear on 02 May 2013, 09:10
Emily aims to peas.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MillionDollar Belt Sander on 02 May 2013, 09:13
Puns aside, she does at least seem to like peas for their own sake, giving the impression of possibly being a connoisseur of them ....

2330 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2330)

Peas? 

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2340
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 02 May 2013, 09:35
While we were trawling the archives for every reference to peas that has ever occurred in the strip, did anyone think to get a count of other vegetable appearances so that we can do a statistical comparison? Over-analysis is nothing without numerical data.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sorflakne on 02 May 2013, 10:03
Maybe I'm dumb or something, but I really don't get the joke behind the peas.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bryntheskits on 02 May 2013, 10:04
Puns aside, she does at least seem to like peas for their own sake, giving the impression of possibly being a connoisseur of them ....

2330 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2330)

Peas? 

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2340
Totally didn't get the Fibonacci Sequence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci_number) first time round, as a Math major I love this.

Maybe I'm dumb or something, but I really don't get the joke behind the peas.
It's just puns, lots and lots of puns.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 02 May 2013, 10:06
To be fair, she really needs to try it with someone other than the two most enigmatic characters in the QC-verse, outside of an alcoholic hallucination or angry stand-in avian.

Raven is more enigmatic than Claire, imho.


Maybe she has got issues but right now, she's just 'ha ha, oh Emily, you kooky chick!' and that's it.

Yeah, except she has been shown
I am not sure which of those spell "ha ha" to you.

Maybe I'm dumb or something, but I really don't get the joke behind the peas.

http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28913.msg1154040.html#msg1154040

Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 02 May 2013, 10:07
Mach major

You must learn really fast.

  • to have no social circle
  • to cry (presumably at realizing she utterly failed to impress her only friends). Today.

Found it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2013, 10:09
Mach major

You must learn really fast.
Sounds about right.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 02 May 2013, 10:19
...that one took me a moment to understand.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 02 May 2013, 10:19
Ouch.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Cheesasaurus on 02 May 2013, 10:22
As someone who also has a tendency to try and throw out very terrible puns every chance I get, I feel Emily's pain. From what I can gather from the story thus far, she's never really had friends before so I'm guessing she's not particularly clear as to how other people tick. I see this being the start of new Emily arc rather than just being simple comic relief.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 02 May 2013, 10:25
Pilchard, I'll say it again: sometimes you seem to work really hard on living up to your avatar  :-D  :-D

I don't understand why so many people don't like Emily. She's still not really developed as a character, and I don't think she's simple-minded in any way. She's just very quirky and naive at times.

I personally look forward to more Emily strips. Maybe she even manages to become a recurring character after the internship, something I don't think will happen with Gabby. I doubt she will manage to get into the main cast, but I don't think she'll leave forever.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bryntheskits on 02 May 2013, 10:44
Mach major

You must learn really fast.
Sounds about right.
Damn it, I knew drunk posting relevant stuff on this forum would be a bad idea.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MillionDollar Belt Sander on 02 May 2013, 10:53
While we were trawling the archives for every reference to peas that has ever occurred in the strip, did anyone think to get a count of other vegetable appearances so that we can do a statistical comparison? Over-analysis is nothing without numerical data.

 :laugh:

I got nothing better to do.  I'll get right on it.   
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 02 May 2013, 10:54
While we were trawling the archives for every reference to peas that has ever occurred in the strip, did anyone think to get a count of other vegetable appearances so that we can do a statistical comparison? Over-analysis is nothing without numerical data.

 :laugh:

I got nothing better to do.  I'll get right on it.
Just remember that the peaches are not ripe.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2013, 11:08
Whoa, who said anything about fruit?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: CleoKat on 02 May 2013, 11:12

Maybe she has got issues but right now, she's just 'ha ha, oh Emily, you kooky chick!' and that's it.

Yeah, except she has been shown
  • to be at times socially clueless
  • to have no social circle
  • to cry (presumably at realizing she utterly failed to impress her only friends). Today.
I am not sure which of those spell "ha ha" to you.

So this is the point where I whip out links to prove things, right? I'm on a break so I'll do a few. This means you have to bring out the links too though  :wink:

Exhibit A: 2298 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2298) This is where we find out that Emily has no other friends coming which for me personally would be quite a vulnerable moment (actually, quite close to home for me) and Emily says "I like greem peperth!"

Exhibit B: 2300 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2300) When she accidently gives Hannelore tanning lotion her response is her usual obliviousness played for laughs.

Exhibit C: 2282 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2282) I suppose this is an example of socially awkward Emily making Claire feel uncomfortable for a moment as she doesn't know if Emily's really annoyed being played for laughs. This isn't me pointing out things that are wrong or should have been done differently but that Emily is generally joke-fodder (QC is generally is a hybrid joke-a-day/slice of life comic so I'm keeping my expectations in check but when you have characters like Hanners, Faye and Marigold I know that Jeph can balance a character with humour). In the next strip 2283 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2283) she has a discussion with Momo about her having an 'owner' and that ends up being about Emily wanting to be a toaster with Momo looking a little perturbed.

Exhibit D: (I'm reading the Momo and Emily convo if you haven't guessed already) 2284 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2284) Emily's a computer science major who spent all of AI 101 looking at cat gifs. Oh Emily, she's such a kook!

Ok, I'm running out of time but can you see where I'm coming from yet? Yes she's been shown to be socially clueless and awkward but my complaint is that these facets haven't been fleshed out and are treated in a superficial way. That's fine if Emily crops up only every now and then (I loved her giggling at Tai's hair for example) but she's pretty regular and I either want less of this Emily or more depth. As for her crying today well I guess we'll see how tomorrow plays out but I don't really sense that this is a big moment for Emily's character but more to do with a comedic overreaction.

Whoa, time is up for me. God those links better work, if they don't I'll fix them later. I hope that makes where I'm coming from a bit clearer. We're all going to have characters that don't hit the spot and internet forums to let strangers know how we feel ;)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 02 May 2013, 11:40
Woha. I am still not sure if you managed to change my mind, but I definitely tip my imaginary hat to commend your effort. (I need a real hat.)

And yes, I would like to see more depth to Emily too. I really hope the current developments will introduce that.

I was just opposing the notion that she is only played for laughs. I think she is... kind of a sad character, much like Faye pre-500.

And shit, I really felt shitty for a moment for wanting Jeph to use Emily's angst for character development. My brain was like "Dude, you are wishing for someone to suffer just for advancement of 'plot'. You are bad and you should feel bad.' :psyduck: Then my brain was like "Dude. She is fictional. She is not actually hurt. No need to feel bad about it."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 02 May 2013, 11:43
Woha. I am still not sure if you managed to change my mind, but I definitely tip my imaginary hat to commend your effort. (I need a real hat.)
I've been thinking of getting a cowboy hat. I feel like I don't fit in in this part of the country without one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 02 May 2013, 12:07
Quote from: TimO
Is it sad that I feel sad for a fictional character?

Isn't that what fiction is for, so we can share the experiences of the fictional characters?

Quote from: Method of Madness
Say this out loud and you'll realize why you should never use this pun again.

It probably sounds pretty matter-of-fact to someone who works at a hospital.

Quote from: Zebediah
While we were trawling the archives for every reference to peas that has ever occurred in the strip, did anyone think to get a count of other vegetable appearances so that we can do a statistical comparison? Over-analysis is nothing without numerical data.

If there's a prize for nerdiness, I think you could win it by adding a "Vegetables in Questionable Content" entry to the wiki.

Quote from: Sorflakne
Maybe I'm dumb or something, but I really don't get the joke behind the peas.

The original in-comic pun depends on a cultural reference. If you're wondering why the rest of us are running with it, it's just one of those group fun things.

Quote from: Cesium33
I don't feel like I fit in in this part of the country

Get a hat from the National Restaurant Association. You'll fit in fine with an NRA hat.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: CleoKat on 02 May 2013, 13:23
Woha. I am still not sure if you managed to change my mind, but I definitely tip my imaginary hat to commend your effort. (I need a real hat.)

And yes, I would like to see more depth to Emily too. I really hope the current developments will introduce that.

I was just opposing the notion that she is only played for laughs. I think she is... kind of a sad character, much like Faye pre-500.

And shit, I really felt shitty for a moment for wanting Jeph to use Emily's angst for character development. My brain was like "Dude, you are wishing for someone to suffer just for advancement of 'plot'. You are bad and you should feel bad.' :psyduck: Then my brain was like "Dude. She is fictional. She is not actually hurt. No need to feel bad about it."

I can see the potential for her to be a sad character, she's got the building blocks for it, but I don't think it's been meaningfully realised in canon (in the canon? I'm never sure how to use the word canon). Pre-500 Faye was so much more, sarcastic, confusing, complex, funny, emotional yet so guarded, there were many colours to pre-500 Faye (and post-500). I think I'd struggle to list that many character traits for Emily and think of moments or a string of comics where those traits were touched on.

You're definitely not a bad person for wanting a little angst, it's a good tool for character development if it's been incorporated in a manner that feels integrated to that person and not tacked on. There's lots of ways to develop a character but for my self purposes as a greedy devourer of QC, subtle angst is one of my favourites. Other favourite include 'Career Development' (I love stories where Faye is working on her art or Marten's doing band stuff. Dammit Marten, do more band stuff! I love drumming Hanners so much!) 'Friendship building' (Hanners and Marigold WoW, Marten and Claire, Dora telling Faye to do something) and 'Subtle romances' (Marigold... someone likes yoooo)

I'm so wired right now (you can tell by how many brackets I use. I practically speak like this when I need sleep badly) so I'll stop rambling and post this. I haven't given up on Emily, I figure I should give it a year in real world time considering the pace of QC, but she ain't winning my heart at the moment.

Also, you should definitely get a hat asap.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mad Cat on 02 May 2013, 13:55
To be fair, she really needs to try it with someone other than the two most enigmatic characters in the QC-verse, outside of an alcoholic hallucination or angry stand-in avian.

Raven is more enigmatic than Claire, imho.
I'll buy that for a dollar.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: JohnTheWysard on 02 May 2013, 14:17
Do people ever actually get ANGRY at bad puns? Ever? Or is that just a comic strip trope?  :psyduck:

Umm...

Yes.

I'm an inveterate (not to be confused with an invertebrate) punster, and I've gotten annoyed and even angry reactions when I make a pun in an inappropriate context.

Then there was the time at the party where the other folks got so angry they locked me in a closet and said they wouldn't let me out until I made a pun on the situation. I immediately cried out "Oh! Pun the door!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: tassaron on 02 May 2013, 16:18
I don't dislike Emily, she just doesn't appeal to my sense of humour much. Ergo she's sort of boring since her sole purpose seems to be comic relief.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 02 May 2013, 16:33
Even Pintsize has figured out that being wacky eventually loses its entertainment value.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 02 May 2013, 18:58
"Laughter can conceal a heavy heart, but when the laughter ends, the grief remains."

- Some guy named Solomon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 02 May 2013, 19:01
huh. who is that guys? He's obviously pretty smart, but i don't think he's anyone anyone here has ever heard of [/s]
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sorflakne on 02 May 2013, 20:32
Maybe I'm dumb or something, but I really don't get the joke behind the peas.

http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28913.msg1154040.html#msg1154040
[/quote]
Ah, a tomato-tomato pronunciation thing then, as I've always heard "peas" pronounced as "peezz", not as "peace" with the stop (can't remember what it's called)  in the middle of the S sound.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2013, 20:41
Well, yeah, you can hear the difference, if they sounded exactly alike it wouldn't be funny. I've never heard "peas" pronounced like "peace".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 02 May 2013, 20:42
It's not as much of a mispronounciation of peas,  as much as people slurring peace. ;)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 02 May 2013, 20:43
Ah, a tomato-tomato pronunciation thing then, as I've always heard "peas" pronounced as "peezz", not as "peace" with the stop (can't remember what it's called)  in the middle of the S sound.

No, we pronounce them differently too, but they're close enough for the pun to work.

Peas = "peeze"
Peace = "peece"

But if you've never heard the phrase "give peace a chance" then it could be hard to get the pun, so it's probably more of a difference in pop culture than a difference in pronunciation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 02 May 2013, 20:48
All we are saying is, give peas a chance (to sound kinda sorta like peace. There's a reason it's a bad pun).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2013, 20:50
it's a bad pun
(http://media.tumblr.com/3aa531f2d37a6fbf141c2936b0e1ab91/tumblr_inline_mjkw9sQHdX1qz4rgp.jpg)
(Heard it in my head after I saw your post, had to find it)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: willpell on 02 May 2013, 20:55
This is proving to be a rather surreal week, even by QC standards....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2013, 21:01
Still one more!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 02 May 2013, 21:35
But if you've never heard the phrase "give peace a chance" then it could be hard to get the pun, so it's probably more of a difference in pop culture than a difference in pronunciation.
I'd never cared much about John in his post-Yoko period.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 02 May 2013, 22:22
it's a bad pun
(Heard it in my head after I saw your post, had to find it)
Bad in the objective, not a perfect homophone sense. But yeah, whatever Dude (I only finally saw that movie about a month ago, so many references I finally get).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 02 May 2013, 22:46
For Emily, this entire pun has gone to peaces
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 02 May 2013, 23:21
But if you've never heard the phrase "give peace a chance" then it could be hard to get the pun, so it's probably more of a difference in pop culture than a difference in pronunciation.
I'd never cared much about John in his post-Yoko period.
Post-Yoko?!

As in, after December 8th, 1980?

Yeah, I don't care much either.  But what does that have to do with "give peace a chance"?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 02 May 2013, 23:34
But if you've never heard the phrase "give peace a chance" then it could be hard to get the pun, so it's probably more of a difference in pop culture than a difference in pronunciation.
I'd never cared much about John in his post-Yoko period.
Post-Yoko?!

As in, after December 8th, 1980?

Yeah, I don't care much either.  But what does that have to do with "give peace a chance"?
Pretty sure "post(hooking up with)Yoko" was the intended meaning. As for the phase... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_Peace_a_Chance)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 02 May 2013, 23:42
1969, it says.  Hardly the post-December-8th-1980 phase.

PS:  8-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 02 May 2013, 23:44
You guys talking of Yoko makes me want to watch some Detective Conan episodes.

(There is a starlet in it called Yoko Okino. One of the main characters adores her).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 03 May 2013, 00:29
Sad day and comic for us metalheads... I still can't believe the news.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 03 May 2013, 00:31
that last frame is awesome though :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jasononline on 03 May 2013, 00:39
While reading the comic, I was thinking to myself, "Wow, I didn't know Jeff was into Kris Kross."

Then I saw the news post.  Guess May has not been a good month for any music genre, so far.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TimO on 03 May 2013, 01:34
Today's strip is a bit of a divergence from any of the storyline arcs, aside from a bit of Hannelore's father and his inventions, which has come up a handful of times previously.  It's a good strip, but it's definitely a bit of a downer for the end of the week (as I guess the news was).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 03 May 2013, 04:33
So what technology is Hannelore's dad working on, anyway? Let's speculate!

I'm guessing an AI simulation of the deceased. There's a guy out there (can't remember his name at the moment) who has postulated that some day we'll all be recreated as simulated AIs on a giant computer. He has further claimed that this state will actually be identical to the afterlife as described by Christianity. Heaven as massively multiplayer online afterlife, in essence, with AI simultations of us that are so good that they won't be aware that they aren't us.

If you're thinking "I can see no way this can go wrong": the TV show Caprica made interesting use of this scenario.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 03 May 2013, 04:38
Caprica use of that was definitely interesting - and the whole ide of people just not being able to let go makes it a really bad idea.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 03 May 2013, 04:46
I think Hannelore was just referring to the "travelling at the speed of light" part of Dora's speech. As in, her father is working on something that is inherrently a bit faster than that.

Nothing like the AI of dead people.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 03 May 2013, 04:48
Though given how hyper-aware Hannerdad is about his own limited lifespan and what he "Needs to accomplish" I suppose he might not care so much that he himself doesn't live on, so long as an equivalent genius to him with his vision of the future does. In that regard it makes sense for a project of his.

Also apparently it's "Caprica Is Awesome Day" here on the QC-forums (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,27809.msg1154498.html#msg1154498). :-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 03 May 2013, 05:05
Crazy talky time:

If it were possible to read/copy someone's brain, the staion may in the future run two AIs. One will be Hannerdad. There may even be a Henway in there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Boiled Dove on 03 May 2013, 06:02
Thanks for the tribute comic Jeph.

I was also thinking that Hanners was talking about the ability to upload your consciousness to an AI.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 03 May 2013, 07:03
All I know about Slayer is that God listens to them any time.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 03 May 2013, 18:49
[MagnusPykeVoice] Science!!! [/MagnusPykeVoice]
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 03 May 2013, 19:31
I'm guessing an AI simulation of the deceased.

I think Hanners already hinted that exists, but it got too popular.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 03 May 2013, 20:21
Crazy talky time:

If it were possible to read/copy someone's brain, the staion may in the future run two AIs. One will be Hannerdad. There may even be a Henway in there.

Because that always works so well.

Quote from: Cave Johnson
If I die before you people can pour me into a computer, I want Caroline to run this place. Now she'll argue, she'll say she can't - she's modest like that. But you make her! Hell, put her in my computer, I don't care.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 03 May 2013, 21:45
WE ARE THE BORG
LOWER YOUR SHIELDS AND SURRENDER YOUR SHIPS
YOUR TECHNOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS WILL BE ADDED TO OUR
YOU WILL EXIST TO SERVICE US
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 03 May 2013, 22:17
I know that I'm betraying my inner geek by not speculating about time travel, ftl, returned personalities etc that may be being researched....

But I'm more concerned with Emily.
She's not a cardboard cutout (OK, she's a cartoon character, but you know what I mean).
She's upset. She doesn't deserve to be.
If I had one word to describe her, it might be "stunted". "Blighted" perhaps. Nowhere near the complete human she has the potential to be.
Lonely too.

Odd, isn't it. I forego speculating about the Big Important World-Changing stuff I'm intensely interested in, and just want to help a character I don't particularly like (see her inhuman treatment of pintsize) simply because the world seems unbalanced unless someone does.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 May 2013, 22:19
She's upset. She doesn't deserve to be.
Deserve? What does that even mean? How can someone deserve to be upset?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 03 May 2013, 23:25
Sometimes people need a good kick in the rear (metaphorically and in rarest of occasions literally) in order to learn an important lesson in how they interact within the world and with those around them. That's bound to make them unhappy.

Not saying that Emily deserves it... this time. The Pintsize thing, while hilarious, probably taught her enough (example - she asks Claire to play with her hair rather than just does it).

But to your point Method, I'd say nobody deserves to be permanently unhappy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nepiophage on 04 May 2013, 00:37
Re Dora and Slayer:
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1199 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1199)
I wonder if she has played it when making love with Tai?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 May 2013, 00:50
I understand -- I feel bad for Emily too.

Jeph has a way of fleshing out characters who at first seem to be cardboard cutouts. This feels likely to happen with Emily.

On the other hand, doesn't she seem like the type to bounce back quickly?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 04 May 2013, 05:04
I know that I'm betraying my inner geek by not speculating about time travel, ftl, returned personalities etc that may be being researched....

You can always get back to that sometime in the future (or past :D).

But I'm more concerned with Emily.
She's not a cardboard cutout (OK, she's a cartoon character, but you know what I mean).
She's upset. She doesn't deserve to be.
If I had one word to describe her, it might be "stunted". "Blighted" perhaps. Nowhere near the complete human she has the potential to be.
Lonely too.
[...] doesn't she seem like the type to bounce back quickly?
What seems and what is are sometimes two different things. Yeah, Emily has an air-headedness that would be synonymous with the word "bimbo", but sometimes there is more to people's behaviour than just how they act.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 04 May 2013, 07:40
sometimes there is more to people's behaviour than just how they act.

How so?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 May 2013, 08:27
Yeah, I also want to know.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 04 May 2013, 09:56
Like or hate the way Emily is, I think it will be interesting to find out why she is the way she is.

Jeph created for himself a lot of interesting new characters in the Interns but it's easy to forget just how new they are. He's spent a lot of comics showing us Claire and I think (hope) he'll move on to Emily soon, but jeez, give the guy a chance to develop a character before complaining how undeveloped they are.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 May 2013, 10:05
We still know far more about Emily than we do about Gabby.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 04 May 2013, 10:32
I think Jeph may have forgotten that Gabby exists.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 May 2013, 10:36
His memory is affected by the humidity. (I still don't see why she got so defensive over it, her hair looked considerably better when it was affected by the humidity.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 04 May 2013, 10:40
Well, if you got asked about it a dozen times by everyone, their sister, and their pet robot, you might get annoyed, I guess.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 May 2013, 11:30
I guess.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 04 May 2013, 11:33
Or something like that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 May 2013, 11:48
It's hard to do justice to a large cast in four panels per day. Nonetheless it would be fun to learn more about Gabby.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 04 May 2013, 13:14
We probably will once the humidity goes down.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 May 2013, 15:16
But then her hair won't be as nice!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 06 May 2013, 00:19
Guess we'll never know what happened to Emily in this week. Angus and Faye in bed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 May 2013, 04:23
I wouldn't say never. Also, "Balls Deep in Faye's Jacuzzi" would be a good band name.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2434-2438 (29 April-3 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 06 May 2013, 04:59
Peas?

The Angel of Peas!    3 (4%)
Give peas a chance!    14 (18.7%)
Peas cannot be achieved through violence.    9 (12%)
Imagine whirled peas.    6 (8%)
A vision of peas with a Birdseye view.    3 (4%)
Peas on hurt; goodwill to all sentient beings.    5 (6.7%)
+5 soothe pain, -5 cause light frostbite.    9 (12%)
No justice - no peas.    5 (6.7%)
Peas porridge hot - no Earl Gray.    1 (1.3%)
Peas porridge cold - with a side of waffles.    6 (8%)
Space ham and peas?    3 (4%)
Can we peas stop the puns?    11 (14.7%)

Total Members Voted: 75