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Title: The 12th Doctor
Post by: Lines on 04 Aug 2013, 08:04
Alright, who's excited for the announcement this evening (in England, afternoon here)? I am!
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Post by: TheEvilDog on 04 Aug 2013, 09:58
All I know is, I'm blacktagging Doctor Who and Sherlock on my tumblr for the next couple of days.....Its the only way to preserve what's left of my sanity....
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Post by: ankhtahr on 04 Aug 2013, 11:02
And here we go…
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Post by: ankhtahr on 04 Aug 2013, 11:32
So it has been revealed:

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Post by: Lines on 04 Aug 2013, 12:11
Hmmm...I don't think I've seen him in anything, but I'm glad they picked someone a bit older this time. (Although part of me was really hoping for Idris Elba, even though I knew they wouldn't pick him.) Can't wait to see how it turns out!
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Post by: K1dmor on 04 Aug 2013, 14:06
 
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Post by: jwhouk on 04 Aug 2013, 16:35
Also still not female. There was some speculation, I understand - but not female (or ginger).
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 Aug 2013, 17:19
(http://static03.mediaite.com/themarysue/uploads/2013/08/capaldi-official-550x550.jpg)

My girlfriend says he looks like the crypt keeper.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Aug 2013, 17:42
Isn't he still making Luther? But yeah, Idris Elba'd have been awesome. STRINGER BELL!

Also, how is a casting decision a spoiler? It's not like knowing who plays the Doctor gives any indication to plot :psyduck:
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Post by: TheEvilDog on 04 Aug 2013, 21:28
Quote from: Method of Madness on 04 Aug 2013, 17:42
Also, how is a casting decision a spoiler? It's not like knowing who plays the Doctor gives any indication to plot :psyduck:

I would imagine it more for the people who hadn't heard yet, who are perhaps travelling and just checking in on their phones. Its more of a courtesy than anything else.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 04 Aug 2013, 23:25
Quote from: Linds on 04 Aug 2013, 12:11
Hmmm...I don't think I've seen him in anything [...]
Well, if you are a dr.who fan you might have seen him there.
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 05 Aug 2013, 08:04
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/e56d03200cd3eb723abc6dea715c570b/tumblr_mr17jvWRFN1qbu76do1_1280.jpg)
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Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Aug 2013, 08:34
Technically the announcement is before the regeneration.
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Post by: Valdís on 05 Aug 2013, 09:03
Nah. I fell in love with Tennant in his first appearance. :-D
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Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Aug 2013, 09:16
I'm actually excited because this is my first new doctor. I caught up (starting with 9) in 2011.
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Post by: ankhtahr on 05 Aug 2013, 12:14
Quote from: Valdís on 05 Aug 2013, 09:03
Nah. I fell in love with Tennant in his first appearance. :-D
I think I started loving Tennant as soon as he started talking. Whenever I watch one of his episodes I absolutely love his accent, and love the way he behaves. Smith was a bit too positive and clumsy at the same time.
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Post by: Grognard on 05 Aug 2013, 13:29
my one quibble is that We've ALREADY seen this actor in the Dr.Who universe...
Timey Wimey, etc; but to reuse a face already placed on another character?
seems a bit ~ Lazy.
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Post by: ankhtahr on 05 Aug 2013, 13:47
Well, we already had this happen with a companion. Martha Jones' actress Freema Agyeman already appeared in the battle of Canary Wharf. IIRC it was explained with her being Martha's cousin.
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 05 Aug 2013, 15:26
They also had him and Karen Gillan in the Fires of Pompei
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Post by: Thrillho on 06 Aug 2013, 13:31
They've also done that with an actor playing The Doctor before. It's hardly unprecedented.

The Thick Of It YouTube parodies are going to be amazing. I've seen one beautiful one already ('an army of fuckin' robots'/'you need to detonate a fucking bomb, today').

Honestly, this casting has actually got me interested in Doctor Who for the first time since Tennant's second season.
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Post by: Lupercal on 06 Aug 2013, 14:26
Right with you Gareth, I've always watched Doctor Who from afar, but remember watching and enjoying Eccleston and most of Tennant - Matt Smith was fine but I never bothered to watch him, Capaldi will make things interesting.

As for Elba - I'm sure once he's done with Luther he'll be picked for something huge. He's already been suggested for the next Bond, now Doctor Who...there's a role with an all-white history that I'm sure he can pick up with grace.
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Post by: Thrillho on 06 Aug 2013, 14:30
Ecclestone is still my favourite Doctor because of his damaged, dark edge and cynicism. Tennant was a know-it-all cunt and Smith seems to be a socialist teenager who's had too many sweets.
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Post by: ankhtahr on 06 Aug 2013, 14:50
Eccleston was great, but sometimes he was pulled down too much by his deeds about the Daleks and the Time Lords.

I absolutely loved Tennant. Almost everything about him was great, though he could be a little bit too self confident. Well, in the end this hubris was what brought him to his downfall. Keyword:
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I never really liked Smith. Partly that's not his fault, but Moffat's. I very much liked the style of the new series, brought in by Russell T. Davies. Moffat's style seems too polished to me at times. But even with that aside, Smith was always so hyper, but still so clumsy, especially in regard to humans.

I look forward to Capaldi. He seems a bit more dark, maybe a bit more "Eccleston-ian". It'd be good to have a doctor with a dash of cynicism again.
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Post by: ev4n on 07 Aug 2013, 08:43
Quote from: Gareth on 06 Aug 2013, 14:30
Ecclestone is still my favourite Doctor because of his damaged, dark edge and cynicism.

Not to mention his ridiculous over-the-top goofy grin he'd sometimes shoot.
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Post by: ev4n on 07 Aug 2013, 08:45
Quote from: ankhtahr on 06 Aug 2013, 14:50
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My list of favourite episodes features pretty much every Moffat episode, topped by Blink.  Thing is, there's one notable exception.  The Waters of Mars is at least equal to Blink, possibly better.  It's a difficult watch, though.

The best episodes are when the Doctor is the most human - Girl in the Fireplace, Waters of Mars, Beast Below...
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Post by: ankhtahr on 07 Aug 2013, 10:38
My favourites are The Impossible Planet (and The Satan Pit), Human Nature (and The Family of Blood), Girl in the Fireplace, and basically the whole third season. Martha Jones is definitely my favourite companion. She is not as dependant on the doctor as e.g. Rose, and I liked her from the moment she answered "Far as I'm concerned you've got to earn this title." when the Doctor introduced himself as "The Doctor".
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Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Aug 2013, 10:41
Yeah, Martha was great.
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Post by: Thrillho on 07 Aug 2013, 10:44
Martha - the medical student who never did any medical procedures.
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Post by: TheEvilDog on 07 Aug 2013, 11:00
But who did recite the bone structure of the hand...once...
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Post by: ev4n on 07 Aug 2013, 11:10
Captain Jack > Rory > Martha > Amy > Donna > Rose >>> Mickey
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Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Aug 2013, 11:12
Was Captain Jack a companion? (For that matter, was Mickey?)
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Post by: ev4n on 07 Aug 2013, 11:14
Captain Jack travelled to the End of Time, as well as Boom Town/Bad Wolf/Parting of Ways.

Mickey travelled once or twice, he was in Girl in the Fireplace.  He's also one of the people the Tenth checked up on before he regenerated.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Aug 2013, 11:22
Recurring characters, yes, but companions?
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Post by: TheEvilDog on 07 Aug 2013, 11:27
A Companion is basically someone who shares an adventure with the Doctor.

For example, Astrid Peth could be considered a Companion, despite the fact she was only in one Christmas Special.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 07 Aug 2013, 14:47
Quote from: Gareth on 06 Aug 2013, 14:30
Ecclestone is still my favourite Doctor because of his damaged, dark edge and cynicism. [...]
PTSD DR. FTW.
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Post by: Kugai on 07 Aug 2013, 17:46
PTSD from what I can remember.
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Post by: Thrillho on 12 Aug 2013, 09:50
Also, I liked Mickey. He had an arc. He had a character. He was memorable. He had pros and cons, he had uses but also sometimes caused problems. He was everything a good companion should be for me.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 12 Aug 2013, 12:27
He was weak.
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Post by: Thrillho on 12 Aug 2013, 23:59
What, a compelling character can't have faults?
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Post by: pwhodges on 13 Aug 2013, 00:54
Sometimes that's what makes them compelling (Shinji...).
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 13 Aug 2013, 03:35
He served as a contrast to the newly bad-ass Rose. But on his own ... he sort of irked me.
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Post by: ev4n on 13 Aug 2013, 07:47
I liked how Mickey ended up, more than where he started from.

Of course, the same can be said of Rory.
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Post by: Thrillho on 13 Aug 2013, 10:20
Rory can go suck a dick. He annoyed the shit out of me. Male equivalent of the damsels they used to have on the show that can't even tie their shoes. Even Rory's dad was more awesome.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Aug 2013, 10:33
Really? The Last Centurion is a damsel in distress? The guy who managed to get himself back from nonexistence?
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Post by: J on 13 Aug 2013, 17:55
the man who made causality his bitch?
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Post by: ev4n on 13 Aug 2013, 18:22
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llxh0sCSLh1qgp574.gif

I started out hating Rory.  He grew on me a lot, as he grew as a character.
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Post by: Thrillho on 14 Aug 2013, 00:00
This is where I should admit that I didn't watch Doctor Who especially religiously during Rory's time on the show - i.e. I barely watched it. I've only ever seen him being useless in episodes, though.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Aug 2013, 07:30
You have a few months until the next episode and a few months after that until the next proper season. CATCH UP!
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Post by: Thrillho on 14 Aug 2013, 10:33
No. Rory was annoying. Amy was annoying. Matt Smith's Doctor was annoying. I am watching at Christmas, and maybe afterwards if Capaldi is much cop, thanks.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Aug 2013, 11:06
You should at least watch the Clara episodes, since she's staying.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 15 Aug 2013, 08:31
Also: Amy is hot.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Aug 2013, 10:10
Yes. Yes, she is.
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Post by: LeeC on 15 Aug 2013, 11:22
Hot is too strong a word.  More like adorable.  :-D
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Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Aug 2013, 11:57
I'd say she's very much both.
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Post by: ankhtahr on 15 Aug 2013, 13:48
Honestly I've never really understood the Doctor/Amy relationship. I think it all became more complicated when
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I didn't see much of Clara yet (I've only watched the first eight episodes of the 7th season yet), but I think she's alright.

Also I realised how much I don't like the episodes of the sixth season when I was looking for an episode to rewatch while on the bus. I randomly skipped through almost all of them until I opened "The Doctor's Wife" and decided that that was an acceptable episode…
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Post by: Legere-factus on 23 Sep 2013, 11:39
I found Amy more annoying than Rory.
Rory has some wonderful moments.
When he enters the Tardis for the first time (vampires of venice I think) and the doctors ready to be all smug in the face of human incomprehension and Rory's like, oh so yeah. Different dimension inside then? (I'm paraphrasing) When the doctor is surprised at Rory's lack of reaction, Rory explains he did his research and read up on science theory after their first encounter. How cool is that!

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The Doctor: It's a lot to take in, isn't it? Tiny box, huge room inside; what's that about? Let me explain...
Rory: It's another dimension.
The Doctor: It's basically another dimen- what?
Rory: After what happened with Prisoner Zero, I've been reading up on all the latest scientific theories. FTL travel, parallel universes.

And when he says "this isn't fair, you're turning me into you" when the doctor asks him to choose between young amy and old amy in 'The girl who waited.'
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Post by: dps on 13 Oct 2013, 16:10
You forgot Rory's best moment:  "Would you like me to repeat the question?".  Doesn't sound like much on its own, but in context, very badass.
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Post by: Lines on 13 Oct 2013, 17:54
I quite like Rory. I think he sticks up for himself and is a good contrast for Amy and the Doctor. (I like the companions who are more reserved about getting into trouble. Why? It's believable and not so over the top.) Also I really like the dynamic of there being two companions for more than an episode or two.

But by far my favorite companion is River Song. The whole backwards/forwards timelines of the two (I haven't finished season 6 yet) is really dynamic and interesting. I wish it was with David Tennant, but when she kissed Matt Smith for the first/last time, it was hilarious watching him squirm about. My second favorite is Capt. Jack, then Martha, Donna, Rose, Mickey. Rose was...ok? and I found Mickey really boring until he went to the other dimension. (I liked his and Martha's ending a lot.) I'm not quite sure how I rate Amy and Rory on that scale yet.


But I have heard rumors that there will be a special that will show the time war with the 8.5 Doctor. Half-human/half-time lord Tennant and I think Rose will be in it and it'll explain why The Doctor doesn't want to discuss the Time War that much and will cover exactly what he did during it. I think he's supposed to have some elements of both the 8th and 9th doctors, but I can't remember what. Has anyone heard about this?
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Post by: ev4n on 15 Oct 2013, 12:00
Quote from: Linds on 13 Oct 2013, 17:54
But by far my favorite companion is River Song. My second favorite is Capt. Jack, then Martha, Donna, Rose, Mickey.

This list is boss.
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Post by: Aimless on 18 Oct 2013, 11:30
It seems I have great things to look forward to :o I've just resumed watching the reboot--which I'd unintentionally abandoned way back when Eccleston played the Doctor--from series 6 and am LOVING it! I lured the wife in and soon thereafter Amy quickly established herself as one of our very few celebrity crushes <3 I'm also enjoying seeing Badger in an unusually likeable role :o
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Post by: ev4n on 18 Oct 2013, 11:45
Canton.  Everett.  Delaware.  The Third.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Oct 2013, 12:20
When you said Badger I thought of this guy:

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Post by: LookingIn on 19 Oct 2013, 09:00
Quote from: ankhtahr on 15 Aug 2013, 13:48
Honestly I've never really understood the Doctor/Amy relationship. I think it all became more complicated when
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I didn't see much of Clara yet (I've only watched the first eight episodes of the 7th season yet), but I think she's alright.

Also I realised how much I don't like the episodes of the sixth season when I was looking for an episode to rewatch while on the bus. I randomly skipped through almost all of them until I opened "The Doctor's Wife" and decided that that was an acceptable episode…

You absolutely must see the Christmas special and her episodes to understand the 50th Anniversary Special and why she is special in the world of Doctor Who...
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Post by: LookingIn on 19 Oct 2013, 09:08
Capaldi not only acted in the show once, but he as a major character in Torchwood's series 3: Children of Men as the character "Frobisher"

If you are familiar with the old show, you will remember when Romana regenerated when Lala Ward took over the role. Her second form was a copy of a character from the preceeding serial meaning they can take their forms based on people they encounter from their lives.  The Sixth Doctor is another example of this, as Colin Baker was in the serial "Arc of Infinity" as Commander Maxil.