THESE FORUMS NOW CLOSED (read only)
Fun Stuff => CLIKC => Topic started by: Blyss on 30 Aug 2013, 09:57
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Microsoft would have you believe a lot of things.
The would have you believe that they only ever wanted what's best for gaming, and not to encompass too many kinds of entertainment at once. They would have you believe that they care about 'core gamers' and that their recent change of course on the xbox one is how they show this, by listening to what gamers want. They would also have you believe that THIS PIECE OF SHIT (https://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-give-us-back-the-xbox-one-we-were-promised-at-e3-2) is real.
Take a good look at that petition. Do you see anything wrong there? Because I do. I mean, I've heard of people trying to pull this before, but frankly no one has ever been so blatantly obvious about it.
Let's look at a couple of excerpts:
1. The opening
Petition by
David Fontenot (First and only petition by this person with no other info on the site, aside from name and State - GA)
GA
This was to be the future of entertainment. A new wave of gaming where you could buy games digitally, then trade, share or sell those digital licenses. Essentially, it was Steam for Xbox. But consumers were uninformed, and railed against it, and it was taken away because Sony took advantage of consumers uncertainty.
We want this back. It can't be all or nothing, there must be a compromise.
So, when was the last time you heard a gamer talk/write something like this? Think about that. Your average Gears of War/Modern Warfare player doesn't even THINK along these lines. I know this because I know a lot of THEM. You know what they were complaining about? DRM (Unnecessary), Always on connections (Unrealistic), and used games (unpopular). The text in parenthesis is the actual reaction to the policies that Microsoft was trying to implement. And the fact is, it wasn't steam for xbox, it was more like big brother/EA origin for xbox, and frankly, no one wants that. At all.
Okay, another excerpt:
2. Supposed petition signers
Javier Marcano HARLOW, UNITED KINGDOM
I don't want to pay 400 - 500 for a console that essentially looks prettier but does the same exact things current gen does.(SHOT AT SONY) MS was just trying to pave the way towards the unavoidable digital future all consoles will follow, if not this gen, then next generation, being innovative just as they were last generation with Xbox Live. (PRAISE FOR MICROSOFT) Granted, I didn't agree with all the policies brought forward but at least I understood the end goal and it wasn't as such a big deal for me. They said their stuff straight forward and took the heat while Sony innovated nothing, changed nothing and helped feed peoples fear that change is bad and that it's good to pay again for what you already have and can do. Sony said what people wanted to hear and only later revealed the truth of their policies in small interviews after E3.(PRAISE FOR MICROSFT AND A SHOT AT SONY) Who is the better company? The one that says things upfront in front of the world or the one that lurks in the shadows about the reality of what it's bringing forward?(PRAISE FOR MICROSOFT) It's sad so many gamers are so short sighted.(YOU'RE ALL IDIOTS FOR NOT BUYING MICROSFT'S OBVIOUS BULLSHIT)
So, after reading this tripe, does anyone NOT believe these guys are getting regular paychecks signed by Microsoft?
Really - they were just being innovative, not greedy? They were just trying to drag us ignorant neanderthals into the inevitable next iteration of gaming? How condescending and utterly obvious can you be at the same time?
Yes, Microsoft, we totally believe that petition is real, and I've got ocean-front property right here in Arizona to sell you too.
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So, when was the last time you heard a gamer talk/write something like this? Think about that. Your average Gears of War/Modern Warfare player doesn't even THINK along these lines. I know this because I know a lot of THEM.
You might want to be careful throwing around such accusations. I've been around a lot of "gamers" (hate that term with a burning passion) my entire life and I've not met anyone I consider seriously "incapable of coherently voicing their opinions when required by context". And since I see myself as an "average Modern Warfare player", I take that as an insult.
That being said, this petition sounds weird, but it could be possible. That's a max of 30.000 people signing this petition. Out of the roughly 80 million the Xbox 360 sold, that's 3,75% of that user base. That's not a significant mass for Microsoft to consider changing their current, abridged path.
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I totally believe the petition is real. Why? Because we live in a world of over 7 Billion people. You really think that out of that many people there can't be 20k+ that think that way?
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There are countless accusations each day of people on the internet being paid corporate shills. Most of them are false. This one is no different.
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You might want to be careful throwing around such accusations. I've been around a lot of "gamers" (hate that term with a burning passion) my entire life and I've not met anyone I consider seriously "incapable of coherently voicing their opinions when required by context". And since I see myself as an "average Modern Warfare player", I take that as an insult.
That being said, this petition sounds weird, but it could be possible. That's a max of 30.000 people signing this petition. Out of the roughly 80 million the Xbox 360 sold, that's 3,75% of that user base. That's not a significant mass for Microsoft to consider changing their current, abridged path.
As I obviously hit a nerve, I apologize for saying something offensive. But seriously? No one else smells bullshit here? I'm the only one that thinks it's all just a little too pat that this petition suddenly showed up after all of the bad press?
Damn, maybe I'm just paranoid.
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Of all the different types of people that are in this world, I totally can see an MS fanboy doing that. I'm not saying it is impossible that MS is directly involved, I'm just saying there's a very good chance they didn't have to.
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Xbox games suddenly had the prospect of being more like Steam. In some ways better, in some ways worse. In an ideal world, the xbone would have been met with universal approval, but in reality, people have faulty internet connections and limited budgets to deal with. PC gamers have lived without a used game market for years, but the lack of an option to play offline is still a big no-no. Giving consumers the best of both worlds - a disc with which to play offline, and a code that binds the game to your account and requires you to play online - would have been a much better move, if you ask me.
Besides, it's the internet. People are going to complain no matter what.