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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: Kugai on 06 Oct 2013, 13:59
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New week, new Poll
Complaints to be made in front of The Pit of Doom. ;D
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Great, now I've got this image of Faye, in a chainmail bikini kicking some guy in the chest while screaming, "THIS. IS. NORTH. HAMPTON!"
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I've always pictured her dressed like Xena and yelling "THIS IS COFFEE OF DOOM!!!"
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Great, now I've got this image of Faye, in a chainmail bikini kicking some guy in the chest while screaming, "THIS. IS. NORTH. HAMPTON!"
In this weather? Angus is gonna have a major fucking boner.
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"Show me on the espresso machine where the bad barista touched you." :lol:
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I like the looks everyone was exchanging. Everyone knew it was a ruse.
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"You're safe, now" she said, laying a hand on his chest...
Careful Dora!
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Great, now I've got this image of Faye, in a chainmail bikini kicking some guy in the chest while screaming, "THIS. IS. NORTH. HAMPTON!"
Nah, that doesn't work, since the words are merged together, and NORTH AMPTON with a pause would just sound cockney.
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Great, now I've got this image of Faye, in a chainmail bikini kicking some guy in the chest while screaming, "THIS. IS. NORTH. HAMPTON!"
In this weather? Angus is gonna have a major fucking boner.
So what ?
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"You're safe, now" she said, laying a hand on his chest...
Careful Dora!
oh boy
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Dora should just be thankful that Dale isn't in plaster or something. Or had an incident with the Malaysian Battle Spatula (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=540).
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I like the looks everyone was exchanging. Everyone knew it was a ruse.
Exactly. That's why Faye didn't immediately delegate it to Dale.
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I still don't know why they keep the Malaysian Battle Spatula around, those things are dangerous!
Over all I found this highly amusing.
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It's an integral part of Dora's combat cutlery collection, which she keeps at the store for the same reason as the broadsword.
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No combat kitchen is complete without the War Whisk and the Tactical Tenderizer.
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Or this: Combat Kitchenware. (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1901693996/combat-kitchenware)
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Actually, compared to the other jobs in his montage during the May weeks, this looks like Dale's best gig in a while.
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He's been surprisingly cool about the hazing.
I think he's gonna stick it oul.
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What hazing?
Faye hasn't, apparently, sent him out for a box of spider-traps or a can of raccoon-be-gone or anything yet. Even the sword fighting is technically business-relevant given Dora's stated purpose for the sword under the counter.
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She hasn't tried the initiation ceremony yet either.
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Aaaaaand… there's the hazing!
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Comic's up a bit early... and does Tai climbing on him count as hazing? :-D
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I'll fix Tai's pants tomorrow, I'm tired
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Hahah. Ah the trials of being tall. Poor Dale.
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This is foreshadowing. Someday Tai will have to climb on Dale to escape a flood. Whitney Houston's "I Will Always Love You" will play in the background.
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This is foreshadowing. Someday Tai will have to climb on Dale to escape a flood. Whitney Houston's "I Will Always Love You" will play in the background.
For some reason, the song that immediately came to my mind was "Threw It On The Ground." This concerns me.
I have cousins that would do this to me, until they couldn't any more.
I assume from the title that Jeph is comparing it to ice skating, which does involve body scaling. Not shoulder sitting so much, though.
what
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My brain just wonders, "Why in the heck was the first thing she thought of upon meeting him was to climb up onto his shoulders?"
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It's Tai
That's all the explanation required.
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It's Tai
That's all the explanation required.
Tiny Tai's traversal trips tongues.
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What's it like to be climbable? I bet it's nice.
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My brain just wonders, "Why in the heck was the first thing she thought of upon meeting him was to climb up onto his shoulders?"
He's soooooo tall. Especially in relation to Tai. It's like seeing a mountain peak--it just gives you that automatic urge to climb up and survey the world from the top.
Tai and Dale together in the last panel are hilarious and adorable--maybe one of my favorite bits of QC art yet.
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Interesting. I also have a friend (who is 5') who jokes about climbing me.
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Tai, Sam. Sam, Tai.
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Tai and Sam should never be allowed to be in the same room together. She would corrupt her.
And Sam might learn some bad things, too...
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I assume from the title that Jeph is comparing it to ice skating, which does involve body scaling.
I assumed he was referring to one of the systems for classifying rock-climbs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_(climbing)). Curiously a "dale" is a valley, an area of relatively low ground.
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My brain just wonders, "Why in the heck was the first thing she thought of upon meeting him was to climb up onto his shoulders?"
My brain proclaims, "Because he was there!"
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Just another example of how Tai is willing to climb all over people to get what she wants.
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Guess this might be the only time we'll see a man between Tai's legs.
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This is foreshadowing. Someday Tai will have to climb on Dale to escape a flood. Whitney Houston's "I Will Always Love You" will play in the background.
I had a vision of Tai shouting "Who rules Bartertown?"
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I'm too busy laughing and waking people up to come up with anything (currently about 10.40pm here). Tai is just too adorable in this one!
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I think Dale is making up for the absent passiveness of Marten. :-P
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So.. anyone notice how Tai can immediately change from pants to shorts while climbing someone? :)
Also.. nice Zero Puncuation reference in the poll :3
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So.. anyone notice
Jeph (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,29356.msg1192102.html#msg1192102)
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I'll fix Tai's pants tomorrow, I'm Taired
>:D
Edit: haha I just tweeted this (https://twitter.com/SiecraticMethod/status/387568691614715904) to Jeph and apparently the last time I tweeted was back in May and it was this (https://twitter.com/SiecraticMethod/status/329912413203873793).
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what
Best reaction ever.
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I haven't seen Tai "hup" since she climbed into Dora's moving truck.
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I assume from the title that Jeph is comparing it to ice skating, which does involve body scaling.
I assumed he was referring to one of the systems for classifying rock-climbs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_(climbing)). Curiously a "dale" is a valley, an area of relatively low ground.
Th-that's possible too. I've never rock climbed seriously enough to look at any of the scales for scaling.
You know, I hope Dale washes his hands after this.
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Special: shoe dirt mocha.
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And Tai's pants are now fixed.
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And Tai's pants are now fixed.
:? Not when I viewed it just now. I did a forced reload, too, just to be sure I wasn't seeing a cached version.
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Hm, they're definitely fixed in the version I'm seeing now. Must be caching issues somewhere.
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The use of CloudFlare introduces an extra layer of caching outside the browser's control; this varies regionally, as they have servers everywhere. (To remind you: QC is served through CloudFlare as a defence against DoS attacks such as happened back in the spring.)
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Do I just have a dirty mind, or does it sound naughty to say "I'll fix her pants"?
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You're probably still seeing a cached version, considering Cloudfire or whatever that service was called. Pants were fixed on my end.
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ffffff ninja'd
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Do I just have a dirty mind, or does it sound naughty to say "I'll fix her pants"?
Dirty mind. Tailoring porn just isn't that popular.
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Damn that Tai is one quirky lady. Most people wouldn't climb on top of somebody when they meet them but she would
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If you've ever seen the movie "500 Days of Summer" that's another lady who is quirky as heck and doesn't give a damn about conventions. They should remake that movie starring Questionable Content character Tai
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Do I just have a dirty mind, or does it sound naughty to say "I'll fix her pants"?
If I didn't have a babelfish to translate such things on the fly, it would sound a lot kinkier to me on this side of the pond than I expect it does to you (pants to me being specifically and uniquely underwear).
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This comic's humor is more in the author's flailing, ongoing attempt to recast Tai into something not completely vomit inducing. She stared as a spoiled, expensive liberal arts college student obsessed with group sex involving her unatainable, at least for one girl, dorm friend. She then moved up to stoner, slacker manager of the library. Once Dora was freed of the shackles of Martin and his overbearing ways that brought out Dora's overbearing nature (yes, I am being sarcastic at the nonsensical Dora evolution) Tai waited for Dora to go to a therapist then moved in. It took about five minutes. Tai evolved at that point to a high minded, poetic romantic wanting the best for a woman, whose relationship wasn't even cold yet and who is, lets be honest, almost as socially unacceptable as Tai. So putting those two together would be fine in an angsty, angry comic where people treat each other like dirt (Tai and Dora would fit right in with Randy and the gang just down the street in Boston) but not in the otherwise charming New England harem manga full of interesting, quirky and sympathetic charcters Jeph has constructed. So what does he do now? New Tai incarnation. Now she is the playful prankster who just is a nice change of pace to the rest of the gang. Only she is not. Dora needs to sell the shop to Faye and move, taking Tai with her. While it is funny to see the author try to make Tai acceptable, she is a reminder drag on the mood of the strip and reminds the reader that Dora was always barely likable. Now she is not. Move on Mr. Jaques. Send them to Randy like Queen of Wands with Kestral. (Although she seems to have a new strip now.) Randy will give them a good home where the can be painfully selfish and rude and fit right in. And the rest of your gang can go on in the little respite from cruel reality that it is otherwise.
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Tai, Sam. Sam, Tai.
Oh my gosh, yes. I would love to see those two meet. I'm not sure exactly how it would go, but I know it would be funny as all hell. If Sam keeps visiting CoD, she probably will meet Tai now that Tai's coming around to see Dora all the time.
Dale meeting Emily is also likely to be entertaining. I want to see the expressions on his face when he has to learn to make a hammered-banana smoothie.
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the shackles of Martin and his overbearing ways
I've never come across this overbearing Martin fellow. There's a guy called Marten who is not like that at all, though - some people criticise him for being a bit of a doormat (though a nice one).
Move on Mr. Jaques.
Jeph Jacques's name is printed above every comic - so you should have no trouble spelling it right in future.
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I want to see the expressions on his face when he has to learn to make a hammered-banana smoothie.
Pschh! The hammer-smoothie is not something that can be taught; it is a state of being, of perfect harmony between arm and hammer expressing the fundamental entropy of existence in the most literal way possible. To achieve it is to become one with oneself and yet also nothingness itself…
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There's always someone, isn't there? ::)
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Not even waiting for the caption contest:
DORA: Mt. Dale.
TAI: Right here in the shop? OK.
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No, no, Tai. It's "helb," not "hup."
Silly library person.
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Not even waiting for the caption contest:
DORA: Mt. Dale.
TAI: Right here in the shop? OK.
In case anyone doesn't get it the implication is that "Mt. Dale" has two different meanings when heard out loud. "Mt. Dale" could be a mountain called Dale (ie. he serves as the metaphorical 'mountain' that Tai climbs on top of in the strip) or it could be interpreted as a command from Dora to Tai to "mount", or have sex with, the character Dale, to which Tai agrees in jest
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Move on Mr. Jaques.
Jeph Jacques's name is printed above every comic - so you should have no trouble spelling it right in future.
damn this is a nice rebuke and an excellent defense of the honor of Jeph Jacques from such wanton disregard
if you want I can send him this post and see if he will adopt you as his own son or daughter
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or it could be interpreted as a command from Dora to Tai to "mount", or have sex with, the character Dale, to which Tai agrees in jest
If this is supposed to be mounting in the sexual sense, then, Tai, you're doing it wrong. (Well, we know she doesn't have experience with men...)
She's definitely mounted him as one would mount a staircase, though.
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Move on Mr. Jaques. Send them to Randy like Queen of Wands with Kestral. (Although she seems to have a new strip now.) Randy will give them a good home where the can be painfully selfish and rude and fit right in. And the rest of your gang can go on in the little respite from cruel reality that it is otherwise.
(moderator)
Criticism should not be expressed in the form of giving the cartoonist orders.
(/moderator)
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This comic's humor is more in the author's flailing, ongoing attempt to recast Tai into something not completely vomit inducing. She stared as a spoiled, expensive liberal arts college student obsessed with group sex involving her unattainable, at least for one girl, dorm friend. She then moved up to stoner, slacker manager of the library. Once Dora was freed of the shackles of Martin and his overbearing ways that brought out Dora's overbearing nature (yes, I am being sarcastic at the nonsensical Dora evolution) Tai waited for Dora to go to a therapist then moved in. It took about five minutes. Tai evolved at that point to a high minded, poetic romantic wanting the best for a woman, whose relationship wasn't even cold yet and who is, lets be honest, almost as socially unacceptable as Tai. So putting those two together would be fine in an angsty, angry comic where people treat each other like dirt (Tai and Dora would fit right in with Randy and the gang just down the street in Boston) but not in the otherwise charming New England harem manga full of interesting, quirky and sympathetic characters Jeph has constructed.
Reiteration and demands
Not sure if it's wise to respond to this, but ah well. You make it all more complicated than it actually is. Tai is, literally from her first appearance, a fun loving prankster, and always is to our observation. We know of her sexual experiences strictly by retelling, and she expressed misgivings about them a thousand strips ago (and repeatedly thereafter a desire to slow down and try committing to one person), and interest in Dora at their first meeting. Tai asking Dora out took several hundred strips after the break up, during which they met as part of a group several times and Marten dated banged... bagged? (gotta be a nicer word) Padme and propositioned a space soldier. Neither Tai nor Dora are particularly angry people, and everyone is angsty (especially Angus' stylst). To be a harem, Marten's female friends would have to show a lot less interest in other dudes/ladies/germs, and bringing that up just makes me wonder about your reasons for disliking these two.
Who the heck is Randy (aside from the eternal one)?
the shackles of Martin and his overbearing ways
I've never come across this overbearing Martin fellow. There's a guy called Marten who is not like that at all, though - some people criticise him for being a bit of a doormat (though a nice one).
Pretty sure that was part of the sarcasm at Dora.
DORA: Mt. Dale.
TAI: Right here in the shop? OK.
That seems an unlikely response.
If this is supposed to be mounting in the sexual sense, then, Tai, you're doing it wrong. (Well, we know she doesn't have experience with men...)
Maybe knees are her erogenous zone.
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Calling it: Dale as coffee delivery boy. In a sidecar.
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Perhaps more likely:
DORA: Mt. Dale.
TAI: Okay! *hup*
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What sort of shenanigoats does Faye have in store?
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Dun dun dun!
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Perhaps more likely:
DORA: Mt. Dale.
TAI: Okay! *hup*
i don't get it
where is the wordplay in this particular situation. if you're implying that Tai climbs on Dale that's already implied by "Mt. Dale", which makes no sense otherwise
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Mount, like a horse. *hup*
then again, who says there needs to be wordplay?
Oh, and Westrim, Randy is Randy Milholland, of Something*Positive, which the poster referenced largely in terms of Kestrel (main character of the dead strip "Queen of Wands", adopted by Mr. Milholland). Generally, the characters in that strip are particularly mean to each other in a way that only the closest of friends can be.
Though it hasn't been based in Boston in years - I wonder about the poster's reading comprehension...
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Faye is gonna get fired. Or dale quits. I just know it.
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Helmet?
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Mount, like a horse. *hup*
yeah but she already climbed on Dale. the implication is clearly "mount" as in sexually
Tai also expresses disbelief at such a suggestion which is clearly in line with the sexual connotation of the word, given that she has already climbed on top of Dale in a non-sexual manner with no reservations
then again, who says there needs to be wordplay?
well we're riffing on a joke someone posted which clearly involved wordplay
without the wordplay it is no longer a joke
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Perhaps more likely:
DORA: Mt. Dale.
TAI: Okay! *hup*
i don't get it
where is the wordplay in this particular situation. if you're implying that Tai climbs on Dale that's already implied by "Mt. Dale", which makes no sense otherwise
"Mt. Dale" is a name, like "Mt. Everest." Dora is calling Dale a mountain because he's so tall, and she isn't saying anything about climbing. But then Tai takes "mount" as a verb instead of as part of a name, and takes Dora's phrase as an instruction, so she proceeds to mount (climb to the top of) Dale.
DrBear's original joke implied sexual mounting. I was suggesting an alternate, non-sexual version, which retained the wordplay between "Mt." as a noun meaning mountain and "mount" as a verb. It's really almost the same wordplay, the only difference being whether the verb "mount" is being used to mean, specifically, "climb on his shoulders" or "climb on his arse." I think DrBear and I were both envisioning Dora saying "Mt. Dale" when Tai was still standing on the ground facing Dale, and then Tai taking it as an instruction and acting upon it. At least, that's how I read DrBear's version; I could be wrong.
I think I've now dissected this joke as far as I can without breaking it down into its component atoms. TL;DR: there was a joke, but it's really, really dead now.
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And meanwhile, Faye's evil is showing.
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Hanners actually does own a helmet (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1882).
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Perhaps more likely:
DORA: Mt. Dale.
TAI: Okay! *hup*
i don't get it
where is the wordplay in this particular situation. if you're implying that Tai climbs on Dale that's already implied by "Mt. Dale", which makes no sense otherwise
"Mt. Dale" is a name, like "Mt. Everest." Dora is calling Dale a mountain because he's so tall, and she isn't saying anything about climbing. But then Tai takes "mount" as a verb instead of as part of a name, and takes Dora's phrase as an instruction, so she proceeds to mount (climb to the top of) Dale.
DrBear's original joke implied sexual mounting. I was suggesting an alternate, non-sexual version, which retained the wordplay between "Mt." as a noun meaning mountain and "mount" as a verb. It's really almost the same wordplay, the only difference being whether the verb "mount" is being used to mean, specifically, "climb on his shoulders" or "climb on his arse." I think DrBear and I were both envisioning Dora saying "Mt. Dale" when Tai was still standing on the ground facing Dale, and then Tai taking it as an instruction and acting upon it. At least, that's how I read DrBear's version; I could be wrong.
I think I've now dissected this joke as far as I can without breaking it down into its component atoms. TL;DR: there was a joke, but it's really, really dead now.
in your (and Doctor Bear's??) interpretation, Dora is referring to him as "Mt. Dale" because he's tall. For Tai to then climb on top of him, the joke could conceivably be that she mishears the noun "mount" as a verb, but she could also conceivably climb on top of him because he's a "mountain" and mountains are known for being climbed. so the joke doesn't work as well because there's less incongruity; the two ways she could take that sentence could easily lead to the same outcome
the joke works better if Dora is referring to Dale as "Mt. Dale" because he had already been climbed on, upon which Tai misconstrues "Mt. Dale" sexually, which is not at all what Dora meant
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And meanwhile, Faye's evil is showing.
I'd say more mischief than evil.
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I want to see the expressions on his face when he has to learn to make a hammered-banana smoothie.
Pschh! The hammer-smoothie is not something that can be taught; it is a state of being, of perfect harmony between arm and hammer expressing the fundamental entropy of existence in the most literal way possible. To achieve it is to become one with oneself and yet also nothingness itself…
Exactly! The hammered banana smoothie is not about refreshment. It is pure performance art. When Emily expresses her intention to consume hers, she inverts the deconstruction of the symbolic matrix, grounding the transcendent in the mundane. Which is why it's funny.
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It's funny because she once sought destruction in her snacks, but now she has accepted peas.
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Move on Mr. Jaques.
Jeph Jacques's name is printed above every comic - so you should have no trouble spelling it right in future.
damn this is a nice rebuke and an excellent defense of the honor of Jeph Jacques from such wanton disregard
if you want I can send him this post and see if he will adopt you as his own son or daughter
I wonder if it's a good idea to say that to the global administrator of the forum.
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Oh, and Westrim, Randy is Randy Milholland, of Something*Positive, which the poster referenced largely in terms of Kestrel (main character of the dead strip "Queen of Wands", adopted by Mr. Milholland). Generally, the characters in that strip are particularly mean to each other in a way that only the closest of friends can be.
I see, thanks.
I wonder how it reflects on our society that the last sentence makes sense (in that "yes, i recognize that as a sign of close friendship") instead of being ghastly?
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Oh, and Westrim, Randy is Randy Milholland, of Something*Positive, which the poster referenced largely in terms of Kestrel (main character of the dead strip "Queen of Wands", adopted by Mr. Milholland). Generally, the characters in that strip are particularly mean to each other in a way that only the closest of friends can be.
I see, thanks.
I wonder how it reflects on our society that the last sentence makes sense (in that "yes, i recognize that as a sign of close friendship") instead of being ghastly?
well, i think
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Though it hasn't been based in Boston in years - I wonder about the poster's reading comprehension...
Well, there are several major characters still in Boston. Aubrey, Jason, Mike, etc. But yes, it mostly happens in Texas now. (and some parts in California)
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Faye is gonna get fired. Or dale quits. I just know it.
Or he stays chill and earns Faye's respect.
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Sigh... Well, here is hoping that Dale will finally break this cycle of employee abuse that Faye seems to think is 'training'. She does this with pretty much all the hires Dora makes, except I think Hanners. Treats them like shit, trying to get them to fight back against her and be as snarky and mean to her as she is to them... This is not a healthy thing and not a smart thing. And she's past due for someone to snap in the wrong way, I think. Fortunately, Dale seems to be not the sort of person to respond with a punch to the face or a lawsuit... both of which are likely answers to the sort of shenanigans Faye gets up with 'training' the new hires to stand up to her. So far they've just eventually responded back with jibes once they realize Dora is going to let them get away with it... it's even expected. Dale on the other hand... Seems to me like he'll take her abuse to the breaking point, then either lay down some serious and real complaints to Dora about it, or just skip the snarking back and rip into Faye verbally about creating a toxic work environment. Cause seriously? This isn't Boot Camp. Abusing and breaking the new hires is not a good idea, doubly so now that she is officially management.
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The choir I sing in once had a conductor who responded "cool" to just about anything. So we called him Cool - it worked out OK.
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Sigh... Well, here is hoping that Dale will finally break this cycle of employee abuse that Faye seems to think is 'training'. She does this with pretty much all the hires Dora makes, except I think Hanners. Treats them like shit, trying to get them to fight back against her and be as snarky and mean to her as she is to them... This is not a healthy thing and not a smart thing. And she's past due for someone to snap in the wrong way, I think. Fortunately, Dale seems to be not the sort of person to respond with a punch to the face or a lawsuit... both of which are likely answers to the sort of shenanigans Faye gets up with 'training' the new hires to stand up to her. So far they've just eventually responded back with jibes once they realize Dora is going to let them get away with it... it's even expected. Dale on the other hand... Seems to me like he'll take her abuse to the breaking point, then either lay down some serious and real complaints to Dora about it, or just skip the snarking back and rip into Faye verbally about creating a toxic work environment. Cause seriously? This isn't Boot Camp. Abusing and breaking the new hires is not a good idea, doubly so now that she is officially management.
Said most of what I was going to say.
Faye gets way too much enjoyment out of pushing peoples buttons.
I hope whatever she has planned backfires on her in spectacular fashion.
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Or he stays chill and earns Faye's respect.
My money's on this one. I think Dale is genuinely not bothered by Faye. His manner isn't at all that of someone who's abused and intimidated; it all seems to roll right off him.
Dale's had a lot of low-status jobs and has probably been pushed around in worse ways than this. He doesn't take any of his jobs too seriously, he's probably pretty confident in his ability to perform well on the job, and he already knows the CoD crew well enough to have at least a bit of a sense of being among friends there. He's not stressed about the new job or Faye's attitude. Befuddled, but not stressed.
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he already knows the CoD crew well enough to have at least a bit of a sense of being among friends there.
We have to keep in mind that he's withstood her sass often enough to learn the secret menu. Not even Marten learned the menu, and he was there all the dang time.
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The hammered banana smoothie that can be described is not the true hammered banana smoothie.
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And meanwhile, Faye's evil is showing.
I'd say more mischief than evil.
Hrrrm. If somebody is mellow, it usually means they have a long fuse. The long fuses are attached to the bigger explosives.
It would amuse me terribly if Dale did a prank back to Faye. Faye is NOT mellow and would likely melt down. However, like almost every episode of House, one of the tropes appears to be "Nobody calls the bully on their BS"
As a side note, it always mystifies me that the biggest jerks tend to have the thinnest skins.
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Faye has been called out before. Several times. Just not since the promotion.
... I can't help but wonder if Jeph is setting up Faye for a fall here. Her scheming has the look and feel of the kind of hubris that, in countless stories, goes before a fall.
Of course, there are many kinds of fall ...
Will her antics backfire? Will they get out of hand, and Dora put her foot down? Will Dale prove even more resourceful than we've seen so far, and turn the tables? Or will Dale wind up in hospital?
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Or will Faye's normal hyperbole continue to be exactly that, as it always has been?
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In the worst case, Dora will become an insecure wreck, Hannelore a nervous wreck, Marten will get stuck in stasis, Steve will constantly get into relationships with unattainable women, Penelope will become a judgemental ass, and Sven will turn to random women for comfort. Faye will end up nearly dead and have to move from the shame of it all.
Wait...
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Undoing years of progress is pretty bad. Well, except for Marten, he'd pretty much be the same.
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Dale knows Faye and the others by now, so he's used to the sass. I think he's probably going to fight back at some stage, but eventually he's gonna wear Faye down as an employer.
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Anyone else seeing a broken image?
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Nope. Don't wanna imagine the aftertaste of that punishment, though.
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And Marten speaks truth to power. :-D
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Marten's a Quaker now?
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Dale actually initiated the workplace sass. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2543 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2543)
He's also demonstrated that he can lay down the boundaries when he's had enough and still remain understanding and turn the situation to a more positive direction during the May story arc.
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Dale actually initiated the workplace sass. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2543 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2543)
It's only just occurred to me (took me long enough) that this situation is similar to the one where Marten was given the responsibility for training interns.
Whereas Marten's reaction was to admit he didn't really know what he was doing, Faye's is to ... well, to be Faye. Prickly and defensive.
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Levels will be found
And go Marten.
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I wonder if Jeph is trolling the forums.
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Dale actually initiated the workplace sass. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2543 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2543)
No, Faye asked for that: "This is the espresso machine"
Either insulting his intelligence or being sarcastic.
Which ever meaning you choose, Dale's reaction was along the lines of "OK, two can play at that game"
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a) too much is being made about Faye's "abuse". It's not abuse. Its just who she is.
b) Faye's fears about things being different are very real. I've seen it happen time and again. Someone gets promoted, and all of a sudden the relationship changes. He/she doesn't have the same rapport with his or her coworkers that they used to, you don't joke around as much, and it's just not the same. That promotion definitely has the potential to wreck some friendships. If I were Faye, I would have told Dora that I would accept the additional responsibility and pay raise, but without the official title. The title just changes the dynamic way too much.
Though, to be fair, the power to set schedules might be enough to foment that dynamic shift, title or no.
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Dale actually initiated the workplace sass. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2543 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2543)
No, Faye asked for that: "This is the espresso machine"
Either insulting his intelligence or being sarcastic.
Which ever meaning you choose, Dale's reaction was along the lines of "OK, two can play at that game"
I read it as Faye being awkward, much like Marten's "This is a bookshelf"
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2204 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2204)
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a) too much is being made about Faye's "abuse". It's not abuse. Its just who she is.
b) Faye's fears about things being different are very real. I've seen it happen time and again. Someone gets promoted, and all of a sudden the relationship changes. He/she doesn't have the same rapport with his or her coworkers that they used to, you don't joke around as much, and it's just not the same. That promotion definitely has the potential to wreck some friendships. If I were Faye, I would have told Dora that I would accept the additional responsibility and pay raise, but without the official title. The title just changes the dynamic way too much.
Though, to be fair, the power to set schedules might be enough to foment that dynamic shift, title or no.
And who Faye is is abusive. Thanks to Comedic Sociopathy it goes okay and we laugh at it, and it's mostly low grade and verbal, but it doesn't change that reality. Even characters have called her out on it. It was one of the reasons for her therapy if I recall correctly.
What friendships? Two of her three now subordinates immediately attempted to quit when she leveled up, and the third probably isn't that into petty workplace power dynamics.
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And Marten speaks truth to power. :-D
Heh. Yes.
Speaking of which... On Faye's abuse, how horrible Tai is etc.: Parody? Exaggeration? Who needs it? (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/critical-miss/10601-Reasonable-Comics-For-Reasonable-People)
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Ooh, burn! Good one, Marty! :laugh:
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a) too much is being made about Faye's "abuse". It's not abuse. Its just who she is.
Plenty of real abusers have hidden behind that defense.
Faye, though, I think Raven is right: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=838
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Yes, but unlike the kitty in Raven's example Faye understands English and can change her ways if she's called out on it. She's pretty much past due to be seriously called out, not just by Marten or someone like that. Letting it slide because 'that's just the way she is' isn't an excuse, and it doesn't help her really. Now that she is a manager, things do change. A co-worker can get by giving someone hard times because if it gets to bad, the one taking it can always go to the boss to talk about it. Well, now Faye is 'the boss', so that doesn't fly anymore.
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Faye seems to have mellowed quite a bit since beginning therapy. If she were that hard to work with I think that would be highlighted in the comic currently. Reading the comic we inject our own tone, and I think that the tone we're meant to be reading Faye's banter in is a lot lighter. She's sarcastic and a bit abrasive, that's who she is. If/when Faye needs another intervention I think we will see other characters reacting negatively. Like when Dora had to get therapy, there were plenty of warning signs and other character reactions.
As to Faye's attitude being inappropriate for a position of authority... I think Faye (as per the current comic) is realizing that. It might take time for her to let go of the way she's interacted with co-workers at CoD for over a year, but I think she is going to soften up a bit.
But for Faye to completely let go of her snark, esp at work.... well, that is just an unrealistic expectation.
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Well I think that is the direction that Jeph is going with this story line. Faye learning appropriate limits to snarkiness.
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Is "snarkastic" a word yet?
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now i miss raven
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Awkwardness!
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Is...is that a thing? With that name? Why do people call it cheese? DON'T RUIN CHEESE BY CALLING THAT CHEESE!
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Why do all the characters only have small plugs? I've seen plenty of people with ears as big as 2" in real life.
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Dora's aren't that small. I'd say they're about what, half an inch?
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Is...is that a thing? With that name? Why do people call it cheese? DON'T RUIN CHEESE BY CALLING THAT CHEESE!
Yes, and with that name. Although it's a specific area name for something that really can happen in any body crevasse that doesn't receive adequate cleaning, like belly buttons, groin, fun bits, rolls of fat, and, as in this case, around body jewelry. Dead skin+ bacteria feasting on said skin= smelly, flavored, crusty residue.
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That doesn't help! Cheese is good, why ruin cheese by calling dead skin bacteria cheese? :psyduck:
Then again, I can't even imagine how Little Cheese feels about this.
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Ear cheese...have never heard it called that before.
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Eww! Ew ew ew! It's funny, putting this in a comic somehow makes it a lot more gross than it would probably be in reality... And calling it "cheese" sounds especially gross even though cheese is a perfectly nice thing.
Somebody pass the brain bleach, please?
On the other hand, in a culture in which portrayals of women making out are usually obnoxiously porn-ified even in non-porn contexts, it's refreshing to see an artist do pretty much the exact opposite of that.
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Are Tai's pants in the dishwasher again?
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Dora's aren't that small. I'd say they're about what, half an inch?
Dora's are probably somewhere between 0 gauge and maybe half an inch. Tai's are probably closer to 2 gauge.
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On the other hand, in a culture in which portrayals of women making out are usually obnoxiously porn-ified even in non-porn contexts, it's refreshing to see an artist do pretty much the exact opposite of that.
It is, but "ear cheese" is a thought that might have been better passed over in silence.
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In context or in life, ear cheese ruins it for everyone.
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Are Tai's pants in the dishwasher again?
Probably not, but Tai and Dora were in bed. You wear your pants to bed?
Ear cheese...have never heard it called that before.
Heard what called that? Just what is this ear cheese of which we are all disgusted? Ear wax? Crust that built up around Dora's earring? Detritus build up from behind Dora's ear? If I'm gonna be disgusted, I'm gonna know with precision what about.
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I think it's pus or crust
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Behold the Power of Cheese!
No?
Cheese Pths!
Reaching?
Limburger Cheesecake!
Please?
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Heard what called that? Just what is this ear cheese of which we are all disgusted? Ear wax? Crust that built up around Dora's earring? Detritus build up from behind Dora's ear? If I'm gonna be disgusted, I'm gonna know with precision what about.
See:
Yes, and with that name. Although it's a specific area name for something that really can happen in any body crevasse that doesn't receive adequate cleaning, like belly buttons, groin, fun bits, rolls of fat, and, as in this case, around body jewelry. Dead skin+ bacteria feasting on said skin= smelly, flavored, crusty residue.
I should add, it's called cheese because it has the texture of cheese.
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I've heard it referred to as "ear peanut butter".
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I've heard it referred to as "ear peanut butter".
I think that's a different substance.
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Let's look at the cheese making process, shall we?
1) Milk has bacteria or acid introduced into it to curdle it
2) Rennet (a mixture of enzymes commonly obtained from calf stomachs) is added to this mixture
3a) The resulting slimy, semi-firm gel can be salted and packaged as-is for certain cheeses or further processed
3b) For further processing, the whey is drained off, leaving the curds to be cut and pressed into more solid cheeses
4) In either case, cheese is frequently left to "ripen" (a polite term for letting it rot in a controlled fashion) for a period of time ranging from days to years to alter flavors and texture
5) During the ripening time, additional enzymes, bacteria, or molds may be introduced to further influence the final product
Cheese is simultaneously a delicious gift from the heavens and utterly disgusting. The process that occurs to create "ear cheese" isn't really all that different from actual cheese making.
*goes back to munching room-temperature sharp cheddar*
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Mood killer.
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... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/Old_Ned/suspicious.gif) I could quite happily have gone the rest of my life without encountering the concept of "ear cheese". Ew.
Somebody pass the brain bleach, please?
Indeed.
On the other hand, in a culture in which portrayals of women making out are usually obnoxiously porn-ified even in non-porn contexts, it's refreshing to see an artist do pretty much the exact opposite of that.
That's a point. But still, ew...
Oh, and for everyone who's wondering why it's called cheese? If you've ever had the experience of going down on a woman who has a yeast infection, it does taste kind of like cheese. But not in a good way... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/Old_Ned/tongue.gif)
(Only once -- never again!)
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Not doing it for me, HeavyP. Cheesemaking is awesome. I've gone to the Sargento plant, and it was completely fascinating.
Oh, and yummy, too.
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I had been wondering what Dora does with all her new found free time. Now we know.
While I have never intended to get my ears pierced, now I definitely will not.
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Oh, it's absolutely fascinating - I imagine it had to have been a series of accidents or the laziest people on earth who figured out cheese.
"What IS that?"
"Oh man, that milk has gone BAD."
"Throw it in a bucket with those beef scraps and we'll toss it later."
*days pass*
"You haven't thrown that out yet? It's solidifying!"
"Look, just pour the liquid down that drain and I'll take care of it later."
*weeks pass*
"Dude, for real?!? That crap is still in the bucket!"
"Fuck it, go give it to Bob. He'll eat anything."
And thus, cheese was born.
And I'm not arguing the yummy part, either, cheese is AMAZING. But, if you take a step back and look at it, sometimes between "reasonable starting material" and "tasty finished product" there are several stages of "what the FUCK?!?"
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I had been wondering what Dora does with all her new found free time. Now we know.
While I have never intended to get my ears pierced, now I definitely will not.
It's only a problem if you don't clean them. It's like anything, regular hygiene fixes the issue - take the plugs/gauges/piercings out regularly, wash them with warm water, and wash the piercing location with warm soapy water, and you will never have ear cheese.
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Oh, it's absolutely fascinating - I imagine it had to have been a series of accidents or the laziest people on earth who figured out cheese.
"What IS that?"
"Oh man, that milk has gone BAD."
"Throw it in a bucket with those beef scraps and we'll toss it later."
*days pass*
"You haven't thrown that out yet? It's solidifying!"
"Look, just pour the liquid down that drain and I'll take care of it later."
*weeks pass*
"Dude, for real?!? That crap is still in the bucket!"
"Fuck it, go give it to Bob. He'll eat anything."
And thus, cheese was born.
And I'm not arguing the yummy part, either, cheese is AMAZING. But, if you take a step back and look at it, sometimes between "reasonable starting material" and "tasty finished product" there are several stages of "what the FUCK?!?"
No kidding. But then, a lot of what we now know to be amazing is, bluntly, hella freaky on the face of it. I mean who was the first guy to pull up a lobster and, instead of freaking out at all the spines and claws and waving antennae, said "you know what, I'm gonna eat that."
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you guys forget about how creepy the person who discovered that it's possible to get milk from a cow must have been. Especially when a large portion of the people used to be lactose intolerant.
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Why does Dora wear ear plugs? Eventually I realized that that was not what Tai meant.
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Quote from somewhere or other: "The guy who ate the first oyster must have been SOME hungry."
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you guys forget about how creepy the person who discovered that it's possible to get milk from a cow must have been. Especially when a large portion of the people used to be lactose intolerant.
Creepy? Why? Humans used to live in close proximity to cows, sheep, goats, pigs etc. Anyone who observed a calf suckling from a cow would have noticed that it is exactly the same process as a human baby suckling from its mother.
Jonathan Swift supposedly wrote: "He was a bold man that first ate an oyster", but archeological evidence from middens and so on demonstrates that our ancestors ate all sorts of improbable things. The seasonal hatching of the Bogong Moth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogong_moth) was a bonanza for Native Australians, for example, but its really no different from eating prawns. Potential starvation is a powerful spur to experimentation.
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Anyone who's ever supervised a really young human can tell you they will put anything that will fit into their mouths. How we survived as a species is a perpetual mystery.
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Oh, it's absolutely fascinating - I imagine it had to have been a series of accidents or the laziest people on earth who figured out cheese.
"What IS that?"
"Oh man, that milk has gone BAD."
"Throw it in a bucket with those beef scraps and we'll toss it later."
*days pass*
"You haven't thrown that out yet? It's solidifying!"
"Look, just pour the liquid down that drain and I'll take care of it later."
*weeks pass*
"Dude, for real?!? That crap is still in the bucket!"
"Fuck it, go give it to Bob. He'll eat anything."
And thus, cheese was born.
And I'm not arguing the yummy part, either, cheese is AMAZING. But, if you take a step back and look at it, sometimes between "reasonable starting material" and "tasty finished product" there are several stages of "what the FUCK?!?"
No kidding. But then, a lot of what we now know to be amazing is, bluntly, hella freaky on the face of it. I mean who was the first guy to pull up a lobster and, instead of freaking out at all the spines and claws and waving antennae, said "you know what, I'm gonna eat that."
Slaves. Seriously. Lobster was considered a nasty thing fit only for the poor, indentured servants and slaves. So one of the more popular and more expensive foods in the world (IT'S A GIANT SEA BUG! CRABS ARE JUST HUGE SPIDERS WITH ARMOR) started at as food fit only for the lowest of the low. Welcome to humanity. Check any concept of sense at the door.
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Oh, it's absolutely fascinating - I imagine it had to have been a series of accidents or the laziest people on earth who figured out cheese.
"What IS that?"
"Oh man, that milk has gone BAD."
"Throw it in a bucket with those beef scraps and we'll toss it later."
*days pass*
"You haven't thrown that out yet? It's solidifying!"
"Look, just pour the liquid down that drain and I'll take care of it later."
*weeks pass*
"Dude, for real?!? That crap is still in the bucket!"
"Fuck it, go give it to Bob. He'll eat anything."
And thus, cheese was born.
And I'm not arguing the yummy part, either, cheese is AMAZING. But, if you take a step back and look at it, sometimes between "reasonable starting material" and "tasty finished product" there are several stages of "what the FUCK?!?"
No kidding. But then, a lot of what we now know to be amazing is, bluntly, hella freaky on the face of it. I mean who was the first guy to pull up a lobster and, instead of freaking out at all the spines and claws and waving antennae, said "you know what, I'm gonna eat that."
Slaves. Seriously. Lobster was considered a nasty thing fit only for the poor, indentured servants and slaves. So one of the more popular and more expensive foods in the world (IT'S A GIANT SEA BUG! CRABS ARE JUST HUGE SPIDERS WITH ARMOR) started at as food fit only for the lowest of the low. Welcome to humanity. Check any concept of sense at the door.
XKCD recently did a strip on lobster.
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/alternate_universe.png)
On an unrelated note, I never get ear cheese, but I do get a waxy build up that would become ear cheese if I didn't clean it every couple days. Mostly just skin oil and such. No smell whatsoever.
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XKCD recently did a strip on lobster.
COMIC!
On an unrelated note, I never get ear cheese, but I do get a waxy build up that would become ear cheese if I didn't clean it every couple days. Mostly just skin oil and such. No smell whatsoever.
Anti quote tunnel!
I found that comic quite unreasonable back when I read it, and my opinion hasn't changed. There are lots of people in THIS universe that are okay with eating spiders, most of them just aren't lucky enough to live in the northeast US. The only good reason not to is so they can live and continue to prey on pests. What plants, animals, and byproducts thereof are considered edible is a social construct. We're omnivores, baby- just about everything can be consumed or rendered safe to consume.
What your talking about is not and will not become ear cheese (though it may end up an addition to said cheese). It's waxy because it IS wax, and far from being food for bacteria, it is actually antimicrobial to a degree.
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Oh, it's absolutely fascinating - I imagine it had to have been a series of accidents or the laziest people on earth who figured out cheese.
"What IS that?"
"Oh man, that milk has gone BAD."
"Throw it in a bucket with those beef scraps and we'll toss it later."
*days pass*
"You haven't thrown that out yet? It's solidifying!"
"Look, just pour the liquid down that drain and I'll take care of it later."
*weeks pass*
"Dude, for real?!? That crap is still in the bucket!"
"Fuck it, go give it to Bob. He'll eat anything."
And thus, cheese was born.
And I'm not arguing the yummy part, either, cheese is AMAZING. But, if you take a step back and look at it, sometimes between "reasonable starting material" and "tasty finished product" there are several stages of "what the FUCK?!?"
That dialogue cracked me up!
The one I've always wondered about is olives. Who the heck bit into an olive straight from the tree and said, "Ecch! Ptooie! Give me something to take this horrible taste out of my mouth!! ...Hey, let's add a shit-ton of salt to these, wait a few weeks, and then eat 'em!"? (Assuming salt-cured came first. If they started by saying "Let's soak these in lye and then eat 'em," I'd really wonder what was up with those dudes.)
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Maybe they were politicians and lyeing came naturally to them.
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Oh, it's absolutely fascinating - I imagine it had to have been a series of accidents or the laziest people on earth who figured out cheese.
"What IS that?"
"Oh man, that milk has gone BAD."
"Throw it in a bucket with those beef scraps and we'll toss it later."
*days pass*
"You haven't thrown that out yet? It's solidifying!"
"Look, just pour the liquid down that drain and I'll take care of it later."
*weeks pass*
"Dude, for real?!? That crap is still in the bucket!"
"Fuck it, go give it to Bob. He'll eat anything."
And thus, cheese was born.
And I'm not arguing the yummy part, either, cheese is AMAZING. But, if you take a step back and look at it, sometimes between "reasonable starting material" and "tasty finished product" there are several stages of "what the FUCK?!?"
No kidding. But then, a lot of what we now know to be amazing is, bluntly, hella freaky on the face of it. I mean who was the first guy to pull up a lobster and, instead of freaking out at all the spines and claws and waving antennae, said "you know what, I'm gonna eat that."
Given my general voraciousness towards food, both "Bob" and the lobster guy might have been either my descendants or pre-incarnations.
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Actually, as I understand it cheese making was discovered in the Middle East. Travellers on long trips would take with them drinks in water skins, often made of animal stomachs. Some people discovered that, you put goats milk or what have you in one of those bags, travel all day in the heat with the agitation and rennet in the stomach skin bag and instead of milk you had cottage cheese. From there they refined the procedure and spread it.
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Troub from Wizard of Id once sang a song about how the bravest man in history was the first to eat an oyster raw.
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Poll results for this week
So, what's on Dales continuing training session for this week?
MOCKachinos ................. 7 (10.4%)
Chocolate Lattes ............. 1 (1.5%)
Cappuchino of Doom ....... 6 (9%)
THE SECRET MENU!!! ...... 19 (28.4%)
Sword wielding Practice ... 13 (19.4%)
Spathe Ham ................... 4 (6%)
Butts!! .......................... 11 (16.4%)
Purple Monkey Dishwasher 6 (9%)
Voting is locked - Polls over for the week. And the Secret Menu remains SECRET :police: ;D
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I think it was George Carlin who wondered on stage about the first person to eat a tomato. "They're all larval inside!"
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I will never understand why some people think stretching their ears out is a good idea.
I mean, I certainly understand the pleasure of stretching out some of your body's other holes to fit larger and larger objects in them, but your ears?!
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I will never understand why some people think stretching their ears out is a good idea.
I mean, I certainly understand the pleasure of stretching out some of your body's other holes to fit larger and larger objects in them, but your ears?!
We already know Dora is into ear fucking.
I REGRET NOTHING! :mrgreen:
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Apropos of nothing, anyone else think of Tai when they see Liz Ricarro from IGPX?
(http://www.nreviews.com/igpx/wallpaper/igpxwp28_800.jpg)
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Not really? But then I've never seen "IGPX" and from the pictures supplied the only physical resemblances are skin tone and hair colour.
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I am not familiar with the show in question, but the pictures seem to imply a certain quirkiness, a trait similarly present in Tai.
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Not really? But then I've never seen "IGPX" and from the pictures supplied the only physical resemblances are skin tone and hair colour.
The ear piercings are similar.
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The eye-colour isn't.
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Not really? But then I've never seen "IGPX" and from the pictures supplied the only physical resemblances are skin tone and hair colour.
The ear piercings are similar.
Not really? Tai wears plugs AFAIK and those look like fairly standard stud posts to me, positioned in pretty much the exact same way millions of women have for decades.
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Plugs and studs are different?
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Plugs:
(http://www.kaossoftwear.com/images/hidermain.jpg)
Studs:
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSUTycAEOu1Jao7tUHHK-KH0XmUgfFP7C9a1ArGJqoKaiALAlUMDQ)
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OK, but how can you tell the difference in a comic? Both are just a colored circle on the earlobe.
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Size, distortion of the earlobe shape (or lack thereof), shading, alternate views showing shape, that sort of thing.
Ms. Ricarro's jewellery is rather small for a plug, particularly one adorned with a stone but is fairly standard for a polished turquoise stud. Speaking of, they are also shaded as hemispheres—another common feature in turquoise jewellery—which is confirmed in the other views supplied.
Basically, a bunch of stuff vastly skews the probability in one direction even before you account for personal and/or cultural bias on the part of the author.
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Basically we're nerds for gettin' stabbed.
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