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Title: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 15 Dec 2013, 11:22
Be advised - I was taken over by a thousand Monkeys with English accents.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 15 Dec 2013, 11:40
Unfortunately the monkeys misspelled Hannelore.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RyanW1019 on 15 Dec 2013, 11:48
Gonna go with my predictions in the last WCDT: Marigold will end up coming to her senses and apologizing to Momo, who will accept the apology. They'll make up and all will be good. (Note that this apology may be precipitated by an angry Hannelore who confronts Marigold. But all of us need some sense slapped into us from time to time.)

After that, it's possible that they return to the Dale issue, and they manage to convince Marigold to ask Dale out out of her own free will. At the very least, I think that it's more likely that Marigold will ask Dale out than the reverse, given Marigold has a support group of friends who will gently nudge her into doing it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 15 Dec 2013, 11:51
Unfortunately the monkeys misspelled Hannelore.

Fortunately, other Monkeys corrected it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 15 Dec 2013, 12:13
I don't think the Momo/Marigold thing is dropped quickly. There has to be some additional talking done either between Momo/Hanners, Hanners/Marigold, and probably Angus/Marigold with Faye adding some ribbing...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 15 Dec 2013, 14:22
I will put my money on four panels of Marigold eating cereals.

In the fourth panel, Hanners shouts from offscreen: "Have you still not asked Dale out?"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 15 Dec 2013, 14:59
I'd put more money on Marigold eating Pocky, but you may be right.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: WAYF on 15 Dec 2013, 19:09
They BOTH ask EACH OTHER out. And they both fail, cause... that's what they do. :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 15 Dec 2013, 19:43
They BOTH ask EACH OTHER out. And they both fail, cause... that's what they do. :P


Daaaaaaaaaaaaang.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 15 Dec 2013, 19:48
Hannelore goes to Marigold's place to go nuclear on her, and finds Marigold intently playing World of Warcraft. Marigold, not realizing Hannelore is there, farts loudly, scaring off Hannelore, thus defeating Nuclear Hannelore.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 15 Dec 2013, 19:52
They BOTH ask EACH OTHER out. And they both fail, cause... that's what they do. :P

Each goes to the other's apartment. Neither is home.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 15 Dec 2013, 19:59
Or they both attempt to call each other at the same time and HEADS EXPLODE.

...I forget which comic that was.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 15 Dec 2013, 20:04
 It was 2253 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2253).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 15 Dec 2013, 20:24
More Hanners chaperoning/translating?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 15 Dec 2013, 20:31
Wilson doing his best to be perv AND a gentleAI
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 15 Dec 2013, 20:42
 The blush makes this comic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Dec 2013, 20:57
Indeed it does.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Dec 2013, 21:30
Why couldn't an AnthroPC  just sleep in her day clothes?

Momo in pajamas would be very cute.

Marigold, if I were you I wouldn't get into fights with someone who has a perfect memory.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Dec 2013, 21:34
Why couldn't an AnthroPC just sleep in her day clothes?
Why should she?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Indicible on 15 Dec 2013, 22:30
Flustered Winston is adorable.
As for the rest, well, Momo has better empathy and sense for human contact than Marigold. Now, that's a template for oblivious humans...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 15 Dec 2013, 22:56
Oh, Winslow. I did miss you. n.n
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 15 Dec 2013, 23:45
Is this some sort of competition? How many ways can you spell Winslow?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: slydon on 16 Dec 2013, 00:38
Hanners must be wearing off on Winsock. I don't remember him being so easily flustered before.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 Dec 2013, 00:39
Why couldn't an AnthroPC just sleep in her day clothes?
Why should she?

More efficient to keep them on until they actually get dirty, since she can sleep motionless sitting up and won't wrinkle them.

We've seen Hannelore's sleepwear, haven't we? In the strip with the loud construction outside her apartment?

Will Winslow want a humanoid chassis now?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 16 Dec 2013, 01:27
Momo still does not need sleep (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2001), guys.  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 16 Dec 2013, 01:54
I totally ship Winslow and Momo now, except I don't, because it is against the forum rules.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 16 Dec 2013, 02:34
My first thought was "n'aww, Winslow has a crush on Momo" and then I thought about it a bit more and realised that Momo's new chassis must have changed their relationship quite a lot. Before, they were roughly the same size and the human characters treated them as sort of entertaining pets. Momo now mostly seems to interact with humans and Winslow is still an entertaining pet, even to her to some extent. I feel a bit sorry for him, Pintsize isn't quite the same.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 16 Dec 2013, 03:04
But Winslow was relieved to get out of the "boyfriend" body after spending a while in humanoid form.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 16 Dec 2013, 03:05
Yeah, good thought!
Winslow has had a try in a human-sized chassis (which admittedly looked way more uncanny valley like than Momo's) and chose to go back to his old one. I already thought that he felt like quite a different character in that ark. I wonder if Winslow would switch now, given the chance - maybe seeing how Momo's life changed due to her new chassis.
(Unfortunately I don't have time right now to hunt for the link to this ark.)

Edit: Beaten to it by pwhodges.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 16 Dec 2013, 04:43
So Winslow's screen can show color. I wonder if he uses it for anything but facial expressions? He wants Hannelore to use him as her only computer, but does he do word processing? Show movies? Video games?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 16 Dec 2013, 05:00
I don't remember clearly (my archive-fu is almost non-existent) but I think we've seen either Pintsize or Winslow hooked up to a TV screen, which makes more sense than trying to watch a film on Winslow's face (for a start, that's a bit creepy to my mind).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 16 Dec 2013, 06:14

As for the rest, well, Momo has better empathy and sense for human contact than Marigold.

Unfortunately that may describe the typical electric can opener in the QC universe.  Marigold needs lots of practice.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Sorflakne on 16 Dec 2013, 08:19
Cripe, been awhile since we saw Winslow.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tulpa on 16 Dec 2013, 08:28
I don't remember clearly (my archive-fu is almost non-existent) but I think we've seen either Pintsize or Winslow hooked up to a TV screen, which makes more sense than trying to watch a film on Winslow's face (for a start, that's a bit creepy to my mind).
Hannelore gets a thumb drive full of sexy firemen. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1219
Winslow catches hannelore on other computer http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1222
Turns out winslow doesn't want to be used for porn http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1223

My point is, it would be creepy to use an AnthroPC for porn... Or a fetish with the right one?  :psyduck:

So Winslow's screen can show color. I wonder if he uses it for anything but facial expressions? He wants Hannelore to use him as her only computer, but does he do word processing? Show movies? Video games?
Third link up there, winslow says he can run all the latest software.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: perlhaqr on 16 Dec 2013, 08:31
Man.  I'm not sure telling Winslow that she doesn't have night clothes is going to be quite as reassuring as Momo thinks it is.  I mean, if the poor little 'bot is blushing now...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 16 Dec 2013, 08:56

My point is, it would be creepy to use an AnthroPC for porn... Or a fetish with the right one?  :psyduck:

Is it cool if I save this video to my hard drive? I'm not COMPLETELY full of porn yet. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1796)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: blacksinow on 16 Dec 2013, 11:08
I'll spare the chassis jokes for later and say that either way, Marigold is going to end up feeling like crap because one of them yelled at her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 16 Dec 2013, 12:44
I wonder if she's already under the sheets.

And Winslow's cute.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: slydon on 16 Dec 2013, 13:12
I totally ship Winslow and Momo now, except I don't, because it is against the forum rules.
You can't tell me how to feeeeeeelllllll! *emo pout*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 Dec 2013, 13:55
Somewhere, I think in a Tumblr Q&A, Jeph contradicted Momo by saying that everybody sentient needs a sleep mode.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 16 Dec 2013, 15:13
Power Saving Mode (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=303)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 16 Dec 2013, 15:23
I don't remember clearly (my archive-fu is almost non-existent) but I think we've seen either Pintsize or Winslow hooked up to a TV screen, which makes more sense than trying to watch a film on Winslow's face (for a start, that's a bit creepy to my mind).

Marten asks Hanners if they could use Winslow to do an impromptu night of bad YouTube videos. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1674)

No sign of Winslow hooked up. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1681)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 Dec 2013, 16:44
Power Saving Mode (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=303)

Yes, but the one I'm thinking of is something different. It was Jeph speaking directly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Dec 2013, 18:53
Jeph speaking directly doesn't contradict the highest level of canon (the comic itself).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 16 Dec 2013, 19:17
I have the uneasy suspicion that Hannelore is about to relapse into Little Hats mode. Except with Little Teddies.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 16 Dec 2013, 19:26
They BOTH ask EACH OTHER out. And they both fail, cause... that's what they do. :P
^ This.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 16 Dec 2013, 20:32
I'd rather learn why robots blush.  It seems like that would require blood.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: HauntingPoem on 16 Dec 2013, 20:54
The blush is on his screen so I presume it is a pixilated blush.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 16 Dec 2013, 21:04
'Do robots dream of electric Beefcake?'
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 16 Dec 2013, 21:16
That Pintzie Angus background plot looks way more interesting then the current arc we're following.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 16 Dec 2013, 21:32
I have the uneasy suspicion that Hannelore is about to relapse into Little Hats mode. Except with Little Teddies.

Which kind?  Oh, wait,  right, Hannelore.  Not likely to be wearing a teddy.  I can imagine Marigold putting one on, but being utterly embarrassed if anyone saw her in it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 16 Dec 2013, 23:03
I have the uneasy suspicion that Hannelore is about to relapse into Little Hats mode. Except with Little Teddies.

Which kind?  Oh, wait,  right, Hannelore.  Not likely to be wearing a teddy.  I can imagine Marigold putting one on, but being utterly embarrassed if anyone saw her in it.

...no, pretty sure he means Hannelore putting Winslow and Momo into little teddies, not wearing them herself.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Dec 2013, 23:16
Damn it, Marbear doesn't realize what she's done yet :/
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 16 Dec 2013, 23:29
I think Hammer-lore is going to have to come down hard on her. Marigold deserves it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 16 Dec 2013, 23:32
It must be a very old issue she is reading. Or must it? The impression I have of YAOI is that the characters would not wait for tens of issues to have sex.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 16 Dec 2013, 23:39
I giggled at the title-description combo. It seems, for robots, every day is hump day.
... maybe that's the bet?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 16 Dec 2013, 23:40
It must be a very old issue she is reading. Or must it? The impression I have of YAOI is that the characters would not wait for tens of issues to have sex.
That is in fact contrary to the impression I have (I think they are more focused on weird romantic shenanigans), but I honestly don't read yaoi. I suppose there is such and such.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 17 Dec 2013, 00:21
Who knew that Winslow was so prudish? Perhaps he's the anti-Pintsize.

And Angus reappears! I don't think it is wise of him to discuss any form of sexuality with the Prince of Perversion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 17 Dec 2013, 00:34
*Sigh*


And Angus, you'd be safer talking with Deathbot3000 than Pintsize
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 17 Dec 2013, 00:45
But going over to Faye's (and Marten's) place means facing Pintsize - he can't be avoided!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmee on 17 Dec 2013, 01:25
I hate to bring up the arguments of last thread again, but I can't help but notice that Marigold still hasn't twigged that what she said to Momo was kinda awful. (I'd previously assumed that the guilt-tripping was an unthinking, spur-of-the-moment thing). This, unfortunately, lowers my opinion of her a notch.  :-\
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 Dec 2013, 01:32
Or she can't face the realization and is blocking it out.

Even someone with the empathy of an electric can opener should have figured out that Momo doesn't do things like that casually.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Somebody on 17 Dec 2013, 03:39
Even someone with the empathy of an electric can opener should have figured out that Momo doesn't do things like that casually.
But DOES Marigold have the empathy of an electric can opener? :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Aimless on 17 Dec 2013, 04:28
Our ability and inclination/tendency to empathize with others is balanced by a lot of things, more or less constant challenges such as being stressed, or tired, or short on time, or being Marigold.

I must say I'm ambivalent about both Dale and Marigold, so I guess that means Daligold works for me :o but I see great frustration and with and aggravation by these two in my future.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 17 Dec 2013, 05:08
Or she can't face the realization and is blocking it out.

Give her time.
And if that doesn't work, a good friend will apply a cluebat.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: J on 17 Dec 2013, 06:04
so, is angus going to ask why robots even have sexuality? because that's something i've been wondering for a while now
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 17 Dec 2013, 06:13
Hannelore may be more sympathetic to Marigold than some folks think.  After all she knows very well what it's like having  trouble relating to people.  It was only because  she was  using some very powerful meds at the time that she approached Marten in the first place.   The early, unmedicated Hannelore we soon came to know likely would have just watched Marten and Fay from afar and never interacted with them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 17 Dec 2013, 07:16
Or she can't face the realization and is blocking it out.
Give her time.
And if that doesn't work, a good friend will apply a cluebat.

We call those "clue-by-fours" up here in the USA.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 17 Dec 2013, 07:19
Or she can't face the realization and is blocking it out.
Give her time.
And if that doesn't work, a good friend will apply a cluebat.

We call those "clue-by-fours" up here in the USA.

heheh.. You beat me to it. My comment was going to be 'Boy, someone needs to visit Marigold with the clue-by-four now.'
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 17 Dec 2013, 08:05
Even someone with the empathy of an electric can opener should have figured out that Momo doesn't do things like that casually.
But DOES Marigold have the empathy of an electric can opener? :psyduck:

Nope, merely the empathy of a mechanical one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrudd on 17 Dec 2013, 09:26
since this has gone up almost a page ago without comment ...
'Do robots dream of electric Beefcake?'

Yes, yes they do [and I fail at archivefu - where is the pre upgrade momo waking with a Buhhhh?]
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 Dec 2013, 10:02
I'm afraid to link to that comic since I get accused of the equivalent of rick rolling when I do.

Jeph said himself that AnthroPC libido is a mystery. Now that they have civil rights it may be illegal to take it away, but why was it there in the first place?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 17 Dec 2013, 10:09
since this has gone up almost a page ago without comment ...
'Do robots dream of electric Beefcake?'

Yes, yes they do [and I fail at archivefu - where is the pre upgrade momo waking with a Buhhhh?]

Its number 1658, IIRC.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 17 Dec 2013, 10:40
I've been thinking about Marigold's issues and what they might stem from. Has her mother ever been mentioned? Is it possible her mother was beautiful and abusive?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 17 Dec 2013, 10:45
Sometimes people just develop anxiety and neuroses and it isn't their mother's fault or their father's or anyone else's, it's just how it happened to them. I don't think you can ever pin things on one particular person or event - ok, maybe Faye's issues were a lot to do with her dad's suicide, but other things will have influenced her too. I don't we have ever met Marigold's mother though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 Dec 2013, 11:05
Not at all. She might have been absent or neglectful, leaving Marigold without a role model.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 17 Dec 2013, 11:10
@Barmymoo, I agree that it's not just one incident or one person that screws someone up. But people can start developing bad emotional habits from a very young age, as a result of their upbringing or life circumstances. E.g. A person with neglectful parents may be uncomfortable with someone being attentive to them, because it's so unfamiliar. So instead, they'll keep surrounding themselves with neglectful people. That can really compound an anxiety problem.

The wiki says this:
Quote
Marigold has mentioned her father (who has since appeared in the strip[91]) but there has been no word in the comic about her mother. If she had an absent, dead, or neglectful mother that deprived her of an early role model for being female, some of her problems could be explained.
"no early role model for being female" sounds way too Freudian to me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 17 Dec 2013, 11:11
Also complete nonsense - there is no one way to be female, and even if there were I'm fairly certain that Marigold will have met other female people during her childhood.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 17 Dec 2013, 11:28
There have been hints that Marigold has been victim of bullying. We know what happened at the last party she was invited to (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1615), and we know what was done to her with a dissected frog (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1621). Oh, and Angus mentionned people made fun of her all though school (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1617), too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 17 Dec 2013, 12:16
C-c-c-colour change?????

I feel like today's comic is maybe a lead up to
"she's at Hannelore's"
"Why?"
"[explanation and grump]"
"Mar thas fucked up"
"Whaaa?"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 17 Dec 2013, 12:36
There have been hints that Marigold has been victim of bullying. We know what happened at the last party she was invited to (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1615), and we know what was done to her with a dissected frog (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1621). Oh, and Angus mentionned people made fun of her all though school (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1617), too.

Which would actually go a long way toward explaining her abysmal social skills. If she started off with less than ideal social skills in the first place, this would invite teasing and bullying whenever she tried to socialize (or was forced to by circumstances - either way, people tend to tease and bully the oddball), causing her to withdraw from social situations which meant her social skills would never really have a chance to develop. The end result of all this would be the socially- and hygienically-challenged individual we were introduced to.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ElvisRevenge on 17 Dec 2013, 12:58
Or she can't face the realization and is blocking it out.
Give her time.
And if that doesn't work, a good friend will apply a cluebat.

We call those "clue-by-fours" up here in the USA.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8167/7450328890_8cbf06d709.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ElvisRevenge on 17 Dec 2013, 13:00
There have been hints that Marigold has been victim of bullying. We know what happened at the last party she was invited to (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1615), and we know what was done to her with a dissected frog (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1621). Oh, and Angus mentionned people made fun of her all though school (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1617), too.

Which would actually go a long way toward explaining her abysmal social skills. If she started off with less than ideal social skills in the first place, this would invite teasing and bullying whenever she tried to socialize (or was forced to by circumstances - either way, people tend to tease and bully the oddball), causing her to withdraw from social situations which meant her social skills would never really have a chance to develop. The end result of all this would be the socially- and hygienically-challenged individual we were introduced to.

Indeed. And I think some of us are over-estimating the amount of time that's lapsed in the QC-verse since Marigold was introduced and actually made friends, arguably for the first time in her life. I'm frustrated with her behavior, but I'm trying to remain patient, because I know it'll work out eventually. These characters are good people, after all!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: aliensporebomb on 17 Dec 2013, 13:23
So while she's all upset it wouldn't be a great idea for Dale to show up to ask her out while she's all angry?

Seems like she has a temper with a long sustain time.  Interesting.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 17 Dec 2013, 14:28
Marigold is chubby and recently recovered from a case of acne that was probably considerably worse when she was a teenager.  She may have been tagged as fat and ugly by some bullies looking for a victim, and then it was all downhill from there.  That by itself could account for the majority of her issues now, and her family might be basically pretty good.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 17 Dec 2013, 14:32
She may just use anger as a shield.


[edit] That's probably true too Platypodes [/edit]
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 17 Dec 2013, 16:11
Indeed. And I think some of us are over-estimating the amount of time that's lapsed in the QC-verse since Marigold was introduced and actually made friends, arguably for the first time in her life.

There's that too. It's probably only been a matter of weeks or maybe a few months since Marigold met Martin and the gang, and changing a lifetime of bad social habits and overcoming a lifetime of bad memories will take more time than that. It may also require therapy, which I'm sure will require Marigold being convinced to avail herself of.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 17 Dec 2013, 16:31
It's probably only been a matter of weeks or maybe a few months since Marigold met Martin and the gang

*Marten

Also, I am pretty sure it has been longer than that. The wiki tells me Marigold met the gang before Dora moved in with Marten. I think they have lived together for a few months.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Dec 2013, 17:07
Also it's been months since the breakup...probably. It's impossible to know for sure.
Marigold is chubby
Yet not as chubby as she thinks she is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 17 Dec 2013, 17:23
I'm afraid to link to that comic since I get accused of the equivalent of rick rolling when I do.

Jeph said himself that AnthroPC libido is a mystery. Now that they have civil rights it may be illegal to take it away, but why was it there in the first place?

There was a strip where Hanners was asking her dad about a rumor she'd heard -- that true AIs hadn't been designed at all, but were the spontaneous product of a human having sex with a computer! And her father (whom we know to have created the first true AI, or at least to have been on the team that created it) awkwardly evades the question and changes the subject...

So... if it really did require sex to create the first AI, it seems likely that it will require sex to create any additional AIs. With any luck, once the first human-computer hybrids came into existence, they could reproduce by mating with each other instead of with humans.

And that's why robots have libidos!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 17 Dec 2013, 17:45
Considering how direct brain-machine interfaces exist and are used I would say that "sex with a computer" might have been not physical but virtual.

Human thought patterns spread like a STD and machines became aware.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 17 Dec 2013, 17:46
Yet not as chubby as she thinks she is.

Which also goes back to the whole self image problem that may or may not be directly related to her bullying backstory.

She needs a strong dose of the master of full figured self confidence- Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 17 Dec 2013, 17:50
I'm afraid to link to that comic since I get accused of the equivalent of rick rolling when I do.

Jeph said himself that AnthroPC libido is a mystery. Now that they have civil rights it may be illegal to take it away, but why was it there in the first place?

There was a strip where Hanners was asking her dad about a rumor she'd heard -- that true AIs hadn't been designed at all, but were the spontaneous product of a human having sex with a computer! And her father (whom we know to have created the first true AI, or at least to have been on the team that created it) awkwardly evades the question and changes the subject...

So... if it really did require sex to create the first AI, it seems likely that it will require sex to create any additional AIs. With any luck, once the first human-computer hybrids came into existence, they could reproduce by mating with each other instead of with humans.

And that's why robots have libidos!

Proven by the Roombas (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1643)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: 94ssd on 17 Dec 2013, 17:53
As someone who dislikes both pink and excessive amounts of gray, I like the new site design.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Dec 2013, 18:02
Man, I do not like it. Then again, the old version took a while to grow on me, so meh.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 17 Dec 2013, 18:22
As someone who dislikes both pink and excessive amounts of gray, I like the new site design.
You wouldn't like Galahs then. One of the more commn birds round here.

(http://www.abc.net.au/news/linkableblob/4768108/data/galahs-forage-on-the-ground-data.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 17 Dec 2013, 18:33
Hm. Wow. Jarring.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 17 Dec 2013, 18:35
Geh. All birds are stupid fuzzy mini-dinosaurs anyway. And they're up to something!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 17 Dec 2013, 19:35
New comic, new format.   This should prove interesting!

Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Dec 2013, 19:42
Is the new format for just this comic? I'm not sure if his newspost implied that he'd do this just now or for a while or FOREVER. Time will tell I guess.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: VeraLapsa on 17 Dec 2013, 20:04
O.O I thought he said he wasn't going to ever change the layout of the comic.

Squeee :)

New is fun, It's Jeph's comic and if he want's to play with new layouts I'm all for it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Somebody on 17 Dec 2013, 20:20
New comic, new format.   This should prove interesting!
Comics will be effectively smaller than the tradQC format, though! (less room for panels)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: J on 17 Dec 2013, 20:31
well, this is different. good for jeph, giving himself more freedom with the format. i do wonder how he's gonna square it all away when it comes time to format a book with both old & new strips though.




and it looks like marigold really just needed some time to cool down and process things on her own. we'll see what conclusion she leaps too later on, presumably.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LeeC on 17 Dec 2013, 20:59
the "What if she never comes back" doesnt tell me if Marigold understands what she said is wrong or if she just knows what she said to Momo just pissed her off, but that herself (Marigold that is) is right (or so she believes).  Was that too confusing?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: shanna86 on 17 Dec 2013, 21:04
Hello! Registered to say I like the layout change up for the most recent comic  :-)
I started reading QC somewhere around strip #60 and today's comic just reminded me how far Jeph has come artistically. Keep on keepin' on man!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 17 Dec 2013, 21:06
the "What if she never comes back" doesnt tell me if Marigold understands what she said is wrong or if she just knows what she said to Momo just pissed her off, but that herself (Marigold that is) is right (or so she believes).  Was that too confusing?

She knows something went wrong but doesn't know what or how, yes?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LeeC on 17 Dec 2013, 21:08
I meant more like Marigold thinks she is in the right but because she is right it pissed Momo off and she left, when really it was the fact that Marigold was just insensitive and not willing to woman up and call Dale herself...or did I further confuse everyone...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 17 Dec 2013, 21:10
I meant more like Marigold thinks she is in the right but because she is right it pissed Momo off and she left, when really it was the fact that Marigold was just insensitive and not willing to woman up and call Dale herself...or did I further confuse everyone...

No I think I get where you're going with your speculation.     

Too early to tell for sure what her though-process is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 Dec 2013, 21:11
Or, to underanalyze, maybe she's only just now figuring out that there's something seriously wrong.

She's probably been taking Momo for granted.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: J on 17 Dec 2013, 21:58
I'm afraid to link to that comic since I get accused of the equivalent of rick rolling when I do.

Jeph said himself that AnthroPC libido is a mystery. Now that they have civil rights it may be illegal to take it away, but why was it there in the first place?

There was a strip where Hanners was asking her dad about a rumor she'd heard -- that true AIs hadn't been designed at all, but were the spontaneous product of a human having sex with a computer! And her father (whom we know to have created the first true AI, or at least to have been on the team that created it) awkwardly evades the question and changes the subject...

So... if it really did require sex to create the first AI, it seems likely that it will require sex to create any additional AIs. With any luck, once the first human-computer hybrids came into existence, they could reproduce by mating with each other instead of with humans.

And that's why robots have libidos!
:psyduck:




that still doesn't explain all their other anthropic behavioral characteristics though.

for example: a human or other animal might enjoy the taste of chocolate cake mix, but only because it contains chemicals that are useful to their biological functions; it's an evolutionary adaptation to seek out glucose. pintsize however, though he has the capacity to taste the cake mix via his hardware, has no functional reason to derive pleasure from that taste, because it's chemical composition has no relevance to the functioning of his hardware.

likewise for a lot of the other behavior we see. what in animals is an artifact of bio-chemical processes in order to fulfill a specific or general need, in non-animals appears superfluous.


i suspect one of two explanations for the behaviors we see: either emotional responses are a pre-programed app, or the AI-OS is designed to imitate/emulate behavior observed from it's social environment. in either case, why would they be built that way?

the most likely reason i can think of would be for AIs that interact with humans on a regular basis; specifically in order to make it easier for the humans to relate to them. but then, why would it go so far as to have those simulated/emulated emotional responses override their objective/rational thinking and perception? after all, if momo loses loses her cool it's no big deal, but if station throws a shitfit...

and that still doesn't explain the cake mix.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: akronnick on 17 Dec 2013, 22:19
I think this (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfFunny) pretty much takes care of Pintsize's obsession with cake batter.

Actually, that probably explains most of Pintsize's behavior. And if that doesn't work, there's always this (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AWizardDidIt) :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: RightInTheSquishyParts on 17 Dec 2013, 22:22
Quote
and that still doesn't explain the cake mix.

Perhaps at the point those gags were written (cake mix, tomato sauce) Jeph hadn't fleshed things out in regards to AnthroPC life and civilization.   We are trying to backfit and rationalize what may have very well been done for the laughs.

I see this all the time in Star Trek "canon" discussions.  "When they wrote this episode of this show were they not aware it would later conflict with what was going to be written later on."   It's easy to look back over 40 years of TV and assume that there has been some master-plot-meta-plan.... when in fact the writers and producers themselves said there is not.   They simply write a story and fit it into the show.... and if there is some resemblance of a 40 year meta-plot-line it's pure accident.    This, incidentally is why I hate the new Trek Novels, as they try to do exactly this.

Back to the comic.   I don't think Jeph had the year 2014 and nearly 3000 strips on his mind the day he sat down and wrote the cake mix jokes.   Or the one where Pintsize ate tomato-sauce.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DrBear on 17 Dec 2013, 22:40
Just came in to see what the kerfuffle quotient was with the new design. Looks like everyone is taking it in stride, I'm happy to see.

(personally, I never really liked the pink, blocky title; the new one is subtler. As for the page size, it will take getting used to but I agree, Jeph's improvement in art skills deserves a larger area in which to shine. Wouldn't necessarily have liked this format during, say, the first 200 strips.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: J on 17 Dec 2013, 22:45
Quote
and that still doesn't explain the cake mix.

Perhaps at the point those gags were written (cake mix, tomato sauce) Jeph hadn't fleshed things out in regards to AnthroPC life and civilization.   We are trying to backfit and rationalize what may have very well been done for the laughs.

I see this all the time in Star Trek "canon" discussions.  "When they wrote this episode of this show were they not aware it would later conflict with what was going to be written later on."   It's easy to look back over 40 years of TV and assume that there has been some master-plot-meta-plan.... when in fact the writers and producers themselves said there is not.   They simply write a story and fit it into the show.... and if there is some resemblance of a 40 year meta-plot-line it's pure accident.    This, incidentally is why I hate the new Trek Novels, as they try to do exactly this.

Back to the comic.   I don't think Jeph had the year 2014 and nearly 3000 strips on his mind the day he sat down and wrote the cake mix jokes.   Or the one where Pintsize ate tomato-sauce.

oh, that's undoubtedly the case, but since jeph chose to start exploring the larger philosophical issues of AI, i think it's fair game to look at how they gel or don't with earlier events within the same continuity. not necessarily for the purposing of picking the story apart, but rather to shine a different light on the issues as they stand. identifying things that don't quite make sense can help build a more coherent picture of what does.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 17 Dec 2013, 23:00
So am I the only one bothered a bit by the lack of a punchline in this comic?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 17 Dec 2013, 23:23
Today I opened up my browser, typed questionablecontent.net into the URL line, and nearly topppled (yes, that's three P for emphasis) over ... desk, chair and all.
Don't necessarily like the colors but I'll have to see how the new layout and format plays out for more dialogue heavy strips until I pass judgment.

@Comic:
Is this another one of Marigold's manga-induced drama conclusion jumps? I swear to Sagan sometimes I think she's treating her life and friends a bit like a visual novel game.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zog on 17 Dec 2013, 23:27
I think that the new format is much nicer. Less distraction, I don't think that you should really notice the background.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 17 Dec 2013, 23:34
Yeah, definitely going to wait how this format will prove with more dialogue heavy strips. Fitting as much text into this as in the old four panel layout might be difficult.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 17 Dec 2013, 23:36
Oh noes layout change :( thats the one thing I would prefer not to change. :(
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 17 Dec 2013, 23:43
I must say that I enjoyed the old layout (both site and comic) *because* it felt so... retro. :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 17 Dec 2013, 23:44
personally, I never really liked the pink, blocky title; the new one is subtler.

Nor me; that's why I never made a forum theme to match.  But I am tempted to for the new look (in the new year sometime).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 17 Dec 2013, 23:46
So am I the only one bothered a bit by the lack of a punchline in this comic?

Why bothered?  It's not that uncommon a thing for him to do.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 17 Dec 2013, 23:56
RUINED FOREVER

nah, it's fine Jeph
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: J on 18 Dec 2013, 00:02
personally, I never really liked the pink, blocky title; the new one is subtler.

Nor me; that's why I never made a forum theme to match.  But I am tempted to for the new look (in the new year sometime).

personally, i really like the current dark grey theme. but then i'm partial white text on dark backgrounds in general; keeps me from scorching my eyeballs out if i decide to get online in the middle of the night
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: J on 18 Dec 2013, 00:05
Yeah, definitely going to wait how this format will prove with more dialogue heavy strips. Fitting as much text into this as in the old four panel layout might be difficult.
jeph can add more panels as required, not every comic needs a big establishing image, any more than every strip needs 4 panels to play out. i expect we're gonna be seeing a lot of variability from now on.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 18 Dec 2013, 00:10
Yep, I usually prefer light on dark themes.

Actually my favourite color scheme is Solarized, by Ethan Schoonover. Here's a css with it, I put together for a German watchblog I'm reading: link (http://blog.fefe.de/?css=http://halfur.de/solarized.css).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 18 Dec 2013, 00:18
XKCD level variability? Oh god, If Jeph does something similar to Time it would be so awesome to watch unfold.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 18 Dec 2013, 00:23
Also it's been months since the breakup...probably. It's impossible to know for sure.
Marigold is chubby
Yet not as chubby as she thinks she is.

It depends on people's context I guess..... (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2307)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Satan on 18 Dec 2013, 00:37
So am I the only one bothered a bit by the lack of a punchline in this comic?
Marigold's delicious misery is the punchline.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 18 Dec 2013, 00:39
I think the new comic layout is fine, but the website itself looks weird at the moment. I think Jeph is still working on it though, and when it's done it will probably be fine. Plus I'll adjust!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Fhqwhgads on 18 Dec 2013, 00:59
Yep, I usually prefer light on dark themes.

Actually my favourite color scheme is Solarized, by Ethan Schoonover. Here's a css with it, I put together for a German watchblog I'm reading: link (http://blog.fefe.de/?css=http://halfur.de/solarized.css).
oooh I lurve Solarized, I use it for my default theme in Notepad++.

also I just logged in to say today was a good day to introduce the new format; it feels like Marigold's sleepless night suddenly has a lot more impact.

tl;dr: yay Solarized, yay new format
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 18 Dec 2013, 01:16
The new page color scheme feels very...Apple.

Undecided as to whether that's a positive or negative.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 18 Dec 2013, 01:24

also I just logged in to say today was a good day to introduce the new format; it feels like Marigold's sleepless night suddenly has a lot more impact.


But it will be an awkward start of a new book. Numberwise it would make more sense as the last page. Storywise it will be quite a cliffhanger, whether first or last.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 18 Dec 2013, 02:41
I quite like where the story seems to be heading.

My freshman calculus course ended last week (exams still to be graded), so let me draw a few parallel lines.

Last week there was talk about calling Marigirl on her s@¤t and making her accountable for how her actions affect her friends. My first reaction: doing that is roughly equivalent to me asking my students to take the final exam on day one. Not cool, because they haven't been exposed to much at all yet, so holding them accountable for something they may have had zero chance learning is a non-starter.

My second reaction was to rebut myself by observing that I do hold my students accountable for the things they should have learned in high school but in many cases didn't. Instead of forever banging my head against this brick wall, I do review the high school stuff, but this doesn't reach all of them. At least not at the level I would like to. Some of the crucial gaps in their understanding should have been cured in junior high - may be earlier. Which brings us back to where Marigold is. In terms of social skills junior high would be a bit taxing for her. I can relate to her plight in that I would have probably learned better social skills, if it were a subject to be studied from school textbooks as opposed to being left to each and every one of us to pick up from the cues around us - if we were at all inclined to see the need to take note of such cues. Early failures lead Marigold to completely lose interest in learning that skill set. Whatever she has learned since may be something like a patchwork of isolated observations - not unlike a collection of calculus tricks that won't help you much unless you see how they fit into the bigger picture (am I projecting myself here enough already?).

This week has a promising start. A sleepless night seems to make Marigold reflect on things. It looks like she will soon have a desire to learn some social skills in that not having them may lead to a concrete loss to her. If Hanners had stormed Marigold's place last night, and given her a lecture, it would have been just a lecture. Now that Marigold will have had time to reflect things, that lecture (I still think it would be better if the lecture came from Hannelore as opposed to Momo) may actually result in some learning.

Mind you, in my teacher evaluation reports those students who only hear me lecture often give critical evaluations, and praise the teacher in charge of their problem sessions. The students in my problem sessions rate me higher. The reason for this is obvious. Most of them won't have tried to learn the material themselves prior to being hit with a set of homework problems. So at the time of the problem session they will be better equipped to appreciate an explanation of the finer points, and are actually left with the feeling of having learned something.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 18 Dec 2013, 02:43
I can see why Jeph changed the comic format; the new one is much more flexible and thus probably more interesting to draw. The way the panels are laid out can also drastically change how the story is told.
And that makes me sad. I like the classic QC broad panels with several characters in them or lots of background. You can immediately see the reaction of the entire group when one character says something or watch little fun story arcs in the background. I'm quite sure the new format means that each comic strip has a smaller size in total --> less QC per day. But more importantly, with this format, there will probably be way more close-ups of single characters in small panels instead of the usual wide QC panels. Otherwise, with the new shape of the strip, only two classic panels can fit instead of four, so I don't think this is how Jeph wants to tell the story anymore.
I'm sure I'll get used to it and like it after a while - as I said, it offers many new exciting possibilities for storytelling. But right now I'm still with Faye:
"This is why I don't like change. It changes things." (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=576# (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=576#))

Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You should be eternally sorry for changing the topic back to the format when somebody has just started a discussion on comic content.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Indicible on 18 Dec 2013, 02:52
The layout change is pretty good, IMHO. My only misgiving is that it will make it a bit more difficult to read on my PSP comics reader.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 18 Dec 2013, 02:55
I like the new site design. The old one was kind of gaudy, but I kind of tuned that out, anyway...

To me the layout of the comic sort of brings out the seriousness of Marigold's thoughts.  She has her work cut out for her to fix what she has done, and I hope for her sake she does it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 18 Dec 2013, 03:39
Yes, Marigold, sometimes (bad) behavior has consequences.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 18 Dec 2013, 04:10
But it will be an awkward start of a new book. Numberwise it would make more sense as the last page. Storywise it will be quite a cliffhanger, whether first or last.

The books are (so far) 300 strips each (give or take guest strips and such); so today's will not be at a book boundary, if I can use the phrase.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 18 Dec 2013, 05:32
Checking the list twice.

Momo at Hannelores (With optional hugging)    25 (20.3%)
Angry Hannelore    12 (9.8%)
Dale asks Marigold out (With optional Awkward Zone)    8 (6.5%)
Marigold asks Dale out (With optional Momoglare)    25 (20.3%)
HappyDora at CoD    2 (1.6%)
HappyTai at Library    3 (2.4%)
Claire and Marten (With optional Clinton)    8 (6.5%)
Marten and Claire (With optional Emily)    12 (9.8%)
Penelope and Emily    1 (0.8%)
Penelope ane Emily AND Wil.    3 (2.4%)
Angus and Faye at the Railway Station    2 (1.6%)
Faye and Angus at the apartment    3 (2.4%)
Steve eats Cereal    2 (1.6%)
Cereal eats Steve    7 (5.7%)
Pintsize eats Waffles    0 (0%)
Waffles eat Pintzize    6 (4.9%)
Other (Specify)    1 (0.8%)
Other (Purple Monkey Dishwasher)    3 (2.4%)

Total Members Voted: 63
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 18 Dec 2013, 05:36
personally, I never really liked the pink, blocky title; the new one is subtler.

Nor me; that's why I never made a forum theme to match.  But I am tempted to for the new look (in the new year sometime).

Actually, the one I have now (QC-light) is pretty similar to the webpage's theme - it just needs a tweak or two.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 18 Dec 2013, 06:00
QC-old theme for the win.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: marsman57 on 18 Dec 2013, 06:02
well, this is different. good for jeph, giving himself more freedom with the format. i do wonder how he's gonna square it all away when it comes time to format a book with both old & new strips though.

I was going to note that the width changed with Comic #300 but then realized that QC Vol. 1 ends exactly on that comic. So we do get one comic of that width, but 300 is also extra long so it would require special laying out anyway.

I'm surprised he didn't wait until 2700 so that it would be at the break of a book.

Edit: Bleh, missed pwhodges analysis on this already.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: marsman57 on 18 Dec 2013, 06:08
I'm quite sure the new format means that each comic strip has a smaller size in total --> less QC per day.

Worth noting, the old size was 600x1417 versus the new size of 800x1160.  If you do multiply this out, you are in fact getting 77,800 more pixels of QC each day.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 18 Dec 2013, 06:29
But it will be an awkward start of a new book. Numberwise it would make more sense as the last page. Storywise it will be quite a cliffhanger, whether first or last.

The books are (so far) 300 strips each (give or take guest strips and such); so today's will not be at a book boundary, if I can use the phrase.

I took the answer below to mean that this would be the start of a new book. Seems that that is not so.

 Jacques Frost        ✔ @jephjacques

“@Bastinenz: will it work out if you want to put it into print together with comics of the old format?” Yep, this will fit the new books.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 18 Dec 2013, 06:51
On present progress, it'll be many years before the books reach this point anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Dec 2013, 07:55
To me the layout of the comic sort of brings out the seriousness of Marigold's thoughts.

Bingo. This layout was the right tool for this job.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 18 Dec 2013, 08:13
The new comic layout is almost an perfect fit to the aspect ratio of my iPhone 4S, when viewed in Comic Chameleon.  Of course, the aspect ratio changed in newer iPhones...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: lot_jockey on 18 Dec 2013, 08:15
When perusing the archives, there's way too much blank space on the right hand side. My eyes wander to the advertisements instead of focusing on the comic (which I guess is good for Jeph).

I think that having all of this space will lead to more interesting art, though. Maybe Jeph's artwork will get to be a bit more like Bill Watterson's (and that's a good thing!).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 18 Dec 2013, 08:17
While I liked the kinda old-school vibe of the old layout, I actually like the new one. It'll be interesting to see what possibilities it opens up, artistically speaking.

With that said, am I the only one who thinks that Marigold looks a bit like Roger the Shrubber in the last frame?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 18 Dec 2013, 10:17
Are we confusing/conflating the layout of the page with the layout of this particular comic? Jeph's departed from the four-stack before, though not often. Sam chasing the snake comes to mind, as does speed-beer Hannelore. In both cases, the departure worked, as it does this time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ChaosWolf on 18 Dec 2013, 10:21
I can see why Jeph changed the comic format; the new one is much more flexible and thus probably more interesting to draw. The way the panels are laid out can also drastically change how the story is told.

Agreed - a big part of the emotional punch of today's strip lies in the different way it's laid out, I think.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 18 Dec 2013, 10:58
Are we confusing/conflating the layout of the page with the layout of this particular comic? Jeph's departed from the four-stack before, though not often. Sam chasing the snake comes to mind, as does speed-beer Hannelore. In both cases, the departure worked, as it does this time.

Yes, but the comic was still the same size. This one is wider and shorter.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 18 Dec 2013, 11:28
Marigold's fear, in my opinion, is the cure. She's been using Momo as a crutch so she doesn't have to learn how to deal the whole "being a social person" thing, despite that being exactly what Momo has been trying (not so subtly) to teach her. While I hope they make up, I also hope that Momo gets her own apartment or something like that. Doing all the heavy lifting in arranging a reconciliation with Dale created a bad precedent.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 18 Dec 2013, 12:53
Night terrors

And perhaps a damned good lesson.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Dec 2013, 12:59
Welcome, new person!

I wonder if Momo might decide that getting her own apartment was appropriate "tough love".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 18 Dec 2013, 12:59
Interesting thought - would Momo want her own place? Would she be able to get one? Is being a companion AI not like a job, where she'd have to give notice or something? What would a robot do with their own place, since they don't need to eat, sleep, defecate or do any of the other human things that we prefer doing in our own homes if possible?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 18 Dec 2013, 13:04
I'm quite sure the new format means that each comic strip has a smaller size in total --> less QC per day.

Worth noting, the old size was 600x1417 versus the new size of 800x1160.  If you do multiply this out, you are in fact getting 77,800 more pixels of QC each day.


Oh, my bad. I didn't actually do the maths. It looked smaller. It still feels like it will fit less content per page - though possibly less content more excitingly drawn and arranged. Anyway, I'm very excited to see how it turns out!

Edit: I hope Momo doesn't move out. It would probably mean lots of personal growth for Marigold, which would be good, but I'd be sad to see the current arrangement beeing broken up. I think their relationship would lose some of its strength in the process. Anyway, I don't think Momo will want to move out; she probably just wants Marigold to understand how mean her behaviour was and to apologise accordingly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LeeC on 18 Dec 2013, 13:24
Interesting thought - would Momo want her own place? Would she be able to get one?
I can't help but think of the robot apartments from futurama. The main apartment was the size of a tiny closet as they didn't need much space, being robuts and all.  But they had massive closets for their stuff.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Case on 18 Dec 2013, 13:37
Interesting thought - would Momo want her own place? Would she be able to get one? Is being a companion AI not like a job, where she'd have to give notice or something? What would a robot do with their own place, since they don't need to eat, sleep, defecate or do any of the other human things that we prefer doing in our own homes if possible?

Well, she'd have her own four walls, i.e. independence ... pretty much why humans move out from their parents place? The stuff you listed above? Actually, most of that you could do on a e.g. Uni Campus, if you're not too picky. Bonus points if you have an office there (I've once met the guy who works in the office next door down the Hallway in his pajamas at 1:00 in the morning. 'S'up? S'up!' - there's faculties where a certain dose of eccentricity is seen as sign of a healthy and creative mind ...)

Actually, what you suggest ties in with a thought that's been pestering me since the whole arc began - From a certain viewpoint, Marigold behaves a little bit like a parent who hasn't noticed her little one is almost all growed up until just now and is a bit hard pressed to deal with it -> Hands up everyone who got one or the other version of the "After all I've done for you!" - speech shortly before moving out? For apparently completely random stuff? That's sometimes how parents deal with the conflict between their fear of loosing this intense bond and their wish for the best for their offspring.
And Momo has really done some growing up in an emotional sense - look at Pintsize and Winslow! They're not dumb, or toys. But they're teenagers at best, totally dependent and fixated on their humans and seemingly content with it. It doesn't matter too critically for that viewpoint that Momo is more socially competent than Marigold, by virtue of downloaded database - up until recently, she was totally dependent on Marigold, all her life revoled around her, and it didn't seem to bother Momo.

I've re-read the chassis-arc just now: They really share a very deep and strong bond. And the new chassis was like an affirmation of that. That's why Momo is so hurt - Marigold seemed to have put a pricetag on that. But she didn't yell: "You're not the Boss of me!", she reacted like a mature, independent sentient being: She extracted herself from the situation and established her boundaries at the same time. She gave herself the time to express her hurt and frustration before making a decision. And the decision was to go back and try her best to repair the damage.

I don't think they will part ways - But I wouldn't be surprised if she'd establish some boundaries, and the means to ... well, establish them, if things are said in the heat of the moment again.
Her own place, bankaccount, etc. could be some of those means.


Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Dec 2013, 15:02
Momo might want her own shower and a place to entertain guests, and a closet for her clothes. Aside from that, she could reside anywhere there was Internet access with which to conduct business.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 18 Dec 2013, 15:12
To conduct business? Surely you mean Marigold - Momo's business is working in the library...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 18 Dec 2013, 15:59
For now, yes ... who's to say she won't have aspirations?

EDIT: And of course don't we all have "business" beyond our Jay Oh Bee Ess, even if it"s the basic business of running our own lives?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 18 Dec 2013, 16:04
Also it's been months since the breakup...probably. It's impossible to know for sure.
Marigold is chubby
Yet not as chubby as she thinks she is.
Indeed!  It's so common for kids who are a little bit overweight and get picked on for it to learn to see themselves as much fatter than they are, and keep that perception into adulthood... I'm thinking that was likely a part of Marigold's experience with bullying.

I've had the impression that living with a human was part of the companion AI relationship, and Pintsize and Winslow seem happy with it.  My guess is that Momo doesn't want to move away from Marigold, she just needs Marigold to stop acting like a butt.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Dec 2013, 16:32
To conduct business? Surely you mean Marigold - Momo's business is working in the library...

Personal business like paying bills, ordering clothes, renewing her driver's license, and whatnot.

She probably needs an Internet connection for software updates anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 18 Dec 2013, 19:10
Also it's been months since the breakup...probably. It's impossible to know for sure.
Marigold is chubby
Yet not as chubby as she thinks she is.
Indeed!  It's so common for kids who are a little bit overweight and get picked on for it to learn to see themselves as much fatter than they are, and keep that perception into adulthood...
Especially for women, still in this day and age.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 18 Dec 2013, 19:34
Ahahahahahaha. This comic made me laugh my Irish ass off.

"Huh... actually you were pretty smooth"

In other news I totally feel the trick mirror. My last check up I say to my doc "Yeah I'm like 10-15 over where I probably should be" "...no you're fine I'm not even concerned" *voice in GM's head*"Nice of him to lie to you isn't it lard ass? Slay your body"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 18 Dec 2013, 19:45
Whee! New comic really shows the potential of the new layout. Not nearly so weird now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 18 Dec 2013, 19:52
Wow, Dale's got like, 7 inches on Angus.

(height, y'all, height)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cpflux on 18 Dec 2013, 19:54
Not sure if Jeph will read this, but if the new format allows him to do more panels where he can draw his characters top to bottom, then I'm all for it, because HOLY DANG is this strip good.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Dec 2013, 20:06
I nominate the last panel for the next caption contest.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 18 Dec 2013, 20:21
ok, I've already so assimilated the new format that I suspect my browser is misbehaving when I page back to the archives, then I get a twang of disappointment when I realize that they're probably not going to get redrawn
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tulpa on 18 Dec 2013, 20:48
JAGERMEISTER POETRY TIME

This is the hunter’s badge of glory,
That he protect and tend his quarry,
Hunt with honour, as is due,
And through the beast to God is true.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: 94ssd on 18 Dec 2013, 20:59
Wow, Dale's got like, 7 inches on Angus.

(height, y'all, height)

I remember Dale being a tall bro was mentioned on a Q&A, but the new format makes it really obvious.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmee on 18 Dec 2013, 21:49
Quote from: Jeph's Twitter
I guess I better figure out what I'm doing for the week between xmas and new year's!!!
Quote from: Jeph's Twitter
five strips of steve eating cereal dot png

PREPARE YOUR BUTTS
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: CompSarge on 18 Dec 2013, 23:28
Firstly, new layout is AMAZING! I'm so glad Jeph is branching out with his style; the past couple pages have felt much more dynamic already.

Secondly, I find it amusing how Faye admits that Angus was smooth in gettin' with her, as his early attempts weren't (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=769) well (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=780) received. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=784)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Dec 2013, 23:34
She specified "in the end".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: CompSarge on 18 Dec 2013, 23:42
Oh yeah...Missed that bit.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 19 Dec 2013, 00:05
I'm still not sure about the layout. I liked the documentary-like style of the comic. With a relatively fixed perspective, with stuff happening in the background. This new style seems to force a perspective on the reader, but that's just my opinion. I will probably get used to it, but it'll take some time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 19 Dec 2013, 00:59
I am still ambigious about the new layout, but I'm slowly warming up to it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 19 Dec 2013, 01:29
Marigold's sleep schedule seems to be off, or significant time must have passed between the last two strips.

I barely noticed the new panel layout. It's pretty comic-standard, and my brain just parsed it. It works fine, I think.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 19 Dec 2013, 03:56
To conduct business? Surely you mean Marigold - Momo's business is working in the library...

Personal business like paying bills, ordering clothes, renewing her driver's license, and whatnot.

She probably needs an Internet connection for software updates anyway.

Ah good point - I was thinking specifically of a business which she runs, which would probably describe Marigold's job, but of course it can be wider than that.

Loki, I suspect you mean ambivalent, in which case I'm with you on that. It could be great but at the moment I'm finding it a bit annoying to have to scroll down to see the whole of one panel (my screen is pretty small).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: J on 19 Dec 2013, 05:16
Marigold's sleep schedule seems to be off, or significant time must have passed between the last two strips.

i think it might be the next day at this point, though eratic sleep schedules are commonly correlated with different types of depression.

I barely noticed the new panel layout. It's pretty comic-standard, and my brain just parsed it. It works fine, I think.

same here. panel layout & composition is one of those things one generally never notices unless it's either really awesome, or really terrible.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 19 Dec 2013, 05:58
Dale takes the road not taken by Marigold: he is actually ASKING for help instead of demanding help and ordering someone to do it for him...

Regarding the timeframe, it's probably the next morning which explains why Faye wasn't happy about closing for Hanners(closing then opening the next day is never a good thing...)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 19 Dec 2013, 06:04
And Dale is not asking someone else to do it for him, just for advice on how to do it himself. Good job, Dale! I think he will be good for Marigold.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: marsman57 on 19 Dec 2013, 06:14
Oh, my bad. I didn't actually do the maths. It looked smaller. It still feels like it will fit less content per page - though possibly less content more excitingly drawn and arranged. Anyway, I'm very excited to see how it turns out!

I actually took out a second sentence where I added something like, "though you can make an argument there will be less content in this layout". I agree that was a valid concern yesterday. Fortunately, it looks like the content level was pretty good on the first "normal" strip drawn in this way.

My only minor beef at the moment about this all is that my RSS reader apparently renders content 576 pixels wide (scaling height accordingly). On the old style, this was a relatively non-noticeable 4% reduction in size (I say non-noticeable as I'd never noticed before!). Now this is a 28% reduction in size from the 800 pixel width comics. That makes the text pretty small. It is not unreadable, but it is enough to be frustrating.

This is all the fault of my RSS reader though and not Jeph. It is using the other 200 pixels on the side to have a mostly blank area with a list of three things "You might also like", two of which are things that I do like... okay. They aren't things I want to follow daily though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 19 Dec 2013, 06:27
Angus is a good choice for a reason that hasn't been mentioned yet: he's likely to have some insight concerning Marigold's issues.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: marsman57 on 19 Dec 2013, 06:51
My only minor beef at the moment about this all is that my RSS reader apparently renders content 576 pixels wide (scaling height accordingly). On the old style, this was a relatively non-noticeable 4% reduction in size (I say non-noticeable as I'd never noticed before!). Now this is a 28% reduction in size from the 800 pixel width comics. That makes the text pretty small. It is not unreadable, but it is enough to be frustrating.

This is all the fault of my RSS reader though and not Jeph. It is using the other 200 pixels on the side to have a mostly blank area with a list of three things "You might also like", two of which are things that I do like... okay. They aren't things I want to follow daily though.

In case anyone else is in the same boat as me with using RSS for Feedly in Firefox. You can add the following script to userContent.css to make the comic the correct size. I don't believe it should affect any of your other feeds. Comics before 2600 will look a little bit blurry as they are being scaled up to 800 pixels wide. The only other negative is that it does partially hide the "You Might Also Like" section. Everything else on the page flows normally around it though thankfully.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions about using userContent.css. I think there is similar functionality for Google Chrome, but I am not sure exactly how to use it.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 19 Dec 2013, 07:32
Was there a mention somewhere of Marigold having a nonstandard sleep schedule? Something about Momo trying to get her up in the morning? This is a job for my superiors at archive-fu.

I need more coffee. I read Akima's post as saying that Hannelore had a disturbed sleep schedule. I almost commented that this was only to be expected.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 19 Dec 2013, 08:24
Welcome, new person!

I wonder if Momo might decide that getting her own apartment was appropriate "tough love".

I highly doubt Momo would go so far as to move out, but if she did, the most likely result is Marigold retreating into her shell and not socializing anymore. Then it would be up to Hannelore to pull her back out (and maybe salvage things with Dale as well).

In other words, Momo moving out would just transfer her "responsibility" for Marigold to Hannelore. Either that, or we'd never see Marigold again since she'd no longer be socializing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 19 Dec 2013, 08:27
Loki, I suspect you mean ambivalent, in which case I'm with you on that.

Yes, I do. Thanks. I blame waking up early.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 19 Dec 2013, 13:22
Angus is a good choice for a reason that hasn't been mentioned yet: he's likely to have some insight concerning Marigold's issues.

Excellent point.  Probably the best person Dale could possibly talk to. Tho, really, pretty much anybody could tell Dale what to do right now: just think of a nice normal date activity like dinner or a movie and ask her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 19 Dec 2013, 13:30
Not too fussed about the new layout, though it was a bit of a surprise when I first saw it.

So, Dale is to become Padawan to Master Angus eh?  Let's hope he doesn't fall to The Dark Side in all this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 19 Dec 2013, 15:16
He may have just come over from the dark side, what with that whole creepy-stalker thing he tried...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 19 Dec 2013, 16:45
An uncharitable person might suggest that Dale and Marigold have both gone over to the dork side.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 19 Dec 2013, 17:24
An uncharitable person might suggest that Dale and Marigold have both gone over to the dork side.

I hope they have Cookies
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Case on 19 Dec 2013, 17:35
An uncharitable person might suggest that Dale and Marigold have both gone over to the dork side.
There's a spark of good even in the dorkest of hearts - Master Skywalker himself said there was!
(Admittedly, he set fire to his father's slain corpse shortly after that ... But still! )
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 19 Dec 2013, 17:37
An uncharitable person might suggest that Dale and Marigold have both gone over to the dork side.

I hope they have Cookies
Browser cookies?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Dec 2013, 17:37
An uncharitable person might suggest that Dale and Marigold have both gone over to the dork side.

I hope they have Cookies

They have their own Tower. (http://www.dorktower.com/)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 19 Dec 2013, 18:13
This new format makes me feel like I'm getting less comic for my money.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: CompSarge on 19 Dec 2013, 19:21
Good thing it's free, then. :P

Seriously, though, how come? You have 6 panels, one of which has full-body shots of two of the characters (a feature previously saved for "special" strips). The level of detail in the backgrounds is not diminished, and the overall effect is that the comic is wider and reads more dynamically than the previous 4-panel vertical strip. Plus, this allows Jeph to adapt the layout to the script, rather than the other way round with the previous layout.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 19 Dec 2013, 19:41
While the comic is wider, it's not as tall.

And of those 6 panels, 4 of them are just half-panels.  I've also been displeased with how much Jeph uses the half-panel format lately.  It makes the story less dynamic when the aspect ratio constantly changes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Dec 2013, 20:07
No comic for tomorrow; boss posted on Twitter: "there will not be a regular comic tomorrow, too much shit is going down. I'll think of something."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 19 Dec 2013, 21:01
Aha!  Time to take the band to THE NEXT LEVEL!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Dec 2013, 21:02
Honestly, I'm more excited about the Deathmole comic than the album.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Ph2 on 19 Dec 2013, 22:03
Does Amir's face look slightly different to anyone else? I swear it looks like his portions have changed some.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 19 Dec 2013, 23:26
a GIG?  an actual GIG?
WHAT MADNESS IS THIS???
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 19 Dec 2013, 23:31
Honestly, I'm more excited about the Deathmole comic than the album.

+1. I threw money into the KS just for the comic. It turns out the music is great, though, so it's a win-win situation for me!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Dec 2013, 23:56
Does Amir's face look slightly different to anyone else? I swear it looks like his portions have changed some.

I think it's because of the lack of color to the comics.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 20 Dec 2013, 00:00
Okay, so the new layout works well enough, I think.

But is it just me or do the characters seem very large for anyone else for some reason?
It feels like I'd need to ctrl+scroll the entire page down a few sizes to be able to read it without straining my eyes...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 20 Dec 2013, 01:30
After some deliberation, I have decided the new layout is a Good Thing(TM). The vertical paneling has always felt very much like a landmark for "This is Questionable Content," but it's seemed like Jeph's been trying to work outside that column frame for a while now in mixing up his panel structure a bit. The more page-oriented format gives him some more flexibility, more space to work with, and he's clearly making good use of that already.

Give it some time to grow on you. I think this is going to lead to good things. n.n
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 20 Dec 2013, 05:24
Does Amir's face look slightly different to anyone else? I swear it looks like his portions have changed some.

I think it's because of the lack of color to the comics.

And his sudden lack of glasses.

His soul patch and stubble isn't there either...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 20 Dec 2013, 05:34
It's part of a work in progress - revision and completion is to be expected.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 20 Dec 2013, 07:03
Regarding the comic format change: Jeph summed it up nicely on Twitter
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Ahahahahahahah someone claims I’m trying to “go mainstream” with my new layout, what does that even MEAN

No matter what we come up with in praise or criticism, he has stated why he made the shift and he liked how it looked so it's here to stay until he decides to change back  8-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 20 Dec 2013, 10:45
Will they be appearing at The Zon?

I'd like to see them in concert with Mystic Spiral.


:-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: foolsguinea on 20 Dec 2013, 14:50
I was confused by Amir's appearance as well. Looked like a longhaired Marten or generic guy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 20 Dec 2013, 15:27
This just shows how much influence colour has on QC.  If QC was a 5 days a week black and white comic the characters would look somewhat different, despite it being the same artist.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 21 Dec 2013, 14:26
Momo decides to move out to allow herself to be an independent being that she has grown to be. Hanners and Faye convince Angus to nudge Marigold to be her own person and to stop relying on others to do things for her. Dale gets the courage to start making a move on Marigold, who in turn starts to get some courage of her own seeing that someone actually likes her for herself and her friends actually care about her.

Plausible?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 21 Dec 2013, 15:50
Something for which you would hope for real people about whom you care ... but where would the comedy be?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Dec 2013, 16:16
Not everything has to be funny, ya know. But surely jokes could be inserted throughout the arc.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 21 Dec 2013, 17:39
Something for which you would hope for real people about whom you care ... but where would the comedy be?

Momo is good for deadpan humor especially when Marten tries to make a bad joke, Hanners is good for a neurotic response, Marigold overreactions should be good for a joke or two. There is comedy in there, it's all about how the joke is set up.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 21 Dec 2013, 18:54
And then you have standard, plug-in jokes in standard, plug-in situations, instead of the character-driven strip this is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: HauntingPoem on 21 Dec 2013, 20:02
This is a comic, as far as I am concerned that is a drawing style not shorthand for comedies. I prefer a character driven plot with humor thrown in  sometimes not the reciprocal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 21 Dec 2013, 20:41
 I had a sexy QC dream last night.

...but instead of Claire or inexplicable Hanners kisses I was Dale in the current arc with Marigold. Which I guess means I'm a masochist, but dreaming about Faye would be too mainstream.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 21 Dec 2013, 23:25
Locked the Poll

Momo at Hannelores (With optional hugging) .......... 25 (17.7%)
Angry Hannelore .......... 13 (9.2%)
Dale asks Marigold out (With optional Awkward Zone) .......... 9 (6.4%)
Marigold asks Dale out (With optional Momoglare) .......... 29 (20.6%)
HappyDora at CoD .......... 2 (1.4%)
HappyTai at Library .......... 3 (2.1%)
Claire and Marten (With optional Clinton) .......... 9 (6.4%)
Marten and Claire (With optional Emily) .......... 16 (11.3%)
Penelope and Emily .......... 1 (0.7%)
Penelope ane Emily AND Wil .......... 4 (2.8%)
Angus and Faye at the Railway Station .......... 3 (2.1%)
Faye and Angus at the apartment .......... 4 (2.8%)
Steve eats Cereal .......... 2 (1.4%)
Cereal eats Steve ..........8 (5.7%)
Pintsize eats Waffles .......... 1 (0.7%)
Waffles eat Pintzize .......... 8 (5.7%)
Other (Specify) .......... 1 (0.7%)
Other (Purple Monkey Dishwasher) .......... 3 (2.1)%And the list is checked twice   ;D




BTW. can someone else do the WCT Thread for next week please.  I'm not in the mood to do it tonight and I'm gonna be out most of tomorrow (Monday, my time) and I'm not sure when I'll be back or whether I'll be on tomorrow at all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 22 Dec 2013, 05:02
And then you have standard, plug-in jokes in standard, plug-in situations, instead of the character-driven strip this is.

You have to have plug-ins to show where one storyline breaks and another begins. They help with the transitions, help lighten things up, and if need be give Jeph a day or two to get things sorted out before the heavy stuff starts again.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2598-2602 (16-20 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 22 Dec 2013, 06:06
No reason the lighter stuff can't be well-crafted and unique to the characters.