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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: jwhouk on 01 Jun 2014, 16:04
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Another week in the books!
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This week: the comic suddenly turns into a manga with absolutely zero explanation, Jeph never acknowledges it, and it never changes back.
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Turns into? It hasn't already happened?
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But what genre of manga?
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Slice of life. A slice of life including cute robot girls, talking animals, and weird people.
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There's got to be a "Manga Opus" joke somewhere hiding down here
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A new comic! I wonder what it'll be! I just become a patreon for the first time! :)
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A new comic! I wonder what it'll be! I just become a patreon for the first time! :)
Hint: Yelling Bird.
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May does seem fascinated by Marigold's rack....
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Yeah, a regular Yelling Bird strip is an obvious possibility. The obvious question is whether it will be a strictly "traditional" Yelling Bird monologs strip, or Yelling Bird and his "friends" interacting.
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May does seem fascinated by Marigold's rack....
Probably her AI is from the same batch as Pintsize.
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To be fair, everyone is fascinated by Marigold's rack. Everyone in-universe, that is.
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To be fair, everyone is fascinated by Marigold's rack. Everyone in-universe, that is.
Caution: Possibly Creepy.
Comparing Faye to Marigold in the rackage department, I'd say they are both sporting equally impressive tracts of land. The question is why is everyone fascinated and delighted by Marigold, and not Faye? Is it because everyone is terrified of Faye? Is it because Marigold exudes an additional Awesome Pheromone and Faye does not? IS IT ALL JUST A HUMOROUS JOKE CREATED BY THE OVERJEPH (praise be to the OverJeph, all glory to Him), or maybe I'm just drunk on REALLY good IPA and should go to bed.
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What kind of IPA?
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To be fair, everyone is fascinated by Marigold's rack. Everyone in-universe, that is.
A world of magical tits! Marigold have hypnotic tits, Faye have sedative tits, and if I'm not mistaken there was a mention about some exploding tits. Together they start a team of super tits, the X-Tits.
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Raven has laser-tits, which she uses to melt the cash register.
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Raven has laser-tits, which she uses to melt the cash register.
On a second thought this team is fated to failure. None of their names match their powers...
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They'll call themselves the Indie Tits.
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What kind of IPA?
The IPA offering from Boulevard Brewing Company. I happen to really like their version, YMMV.
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They have more than one IPA according to their site. Hopefully it's the Double-Wide.
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They have more than one IPA according to their site. Hopefully it's the Double-Wide.
http://www.boulevard.com/beers/trbeers/mid-coast-ipa/
This one. I traded all of the "Unfiltered wheat beer" ones out of my sample-pack back for more of the IPA. Good stuff... reminds me a bit of ShockTop which is interesting as that is a Belgian White. Meh it's all good. Found me a new favorite beer for the summer.
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Niiiiiiiiiiiiice. I do love a good hoppy beer.
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Another week in the books!
Considering the subject of today's strip, it might better be defined as "another week in the boobs"...
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Yeah, a regular Yelling Bird strip is an obvious possibility. The obvious question is whether it will be a strictly "traditional" Yelling Bird monologs strip, or Yelling Bird and his "friends" interacting.
Yelling Bird is an import from Jeph's now defunct other comic (http://indietits.com).
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I thought it was a "slice of life" all along?
Ok, May has just jumped the shark. Pintsize has effectively become marginalised because you can only do so many "robots like porn" gags. Momo had a throw away gag about "corrupted registry files" and a couple of one-shots about action figures and Sven, which on one level can be read as being about displacement activities, but May reappears with some quite nuanced questions about quite who is manipulation who, and to what end, and suddenly she's Bluto from Animal House.
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Boooo ! A poll without Hanners and Raven ! I refuse to choose any option at all !
Its kind of weird, maybe even unrealistic, that the socially akward girl has the big boobs in this comic.
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To be fair, everyone is fascinated by Marigold's rack. Everyone in-universe, that is.
Caution: Possibly Creepy.
Comparing Faye to Marigold in the rackage department, I'd say they are both sporting equally impressive tracts of land. The question is why is everyone fascinated and delighted by Marigold, and not Faye? Is it because everyone is terrified of Faye? Is it because Marigold exudes an additional Awesome Pheromone and Faye does not? IS IT ALL JUST A HUMOROUS JOKE CREATED BY THE OVERJEPH (praise be to the OverJeph, all glory to Him), or maybe I'm just drunk on REALLY good IPA and should go to bed.
Faye is comfortable with herself... She's a girl that sticks the rack out there and owns it.. Along with everything else. Which is slightly terrifying. Marigold is mildly cute, but horribly (almost debilitatingly) introverted to the point of almost being shut-in. She deliberately dresses down to hide them. When people meet her they realize she could "polish up" and turn some heads.. But Marigold is way to insecure for all that.
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@ben May's interest and casual attitude toward anatomy isn't sudden. The joke is a callback to various (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2493) obsessions (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2505) about body parts (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2496) including specifically (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2509) about Marigold (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2514) when May was in Dale's glasses.
So, creepy? yes, a bit.
Sudden? nah.
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I guess May will eventually find a job, and use her first salary to accessorize herself with megaboobs. Dale will be mad because she will not have money to pay the rent.
Personally, I find Faye's boobs more fascinating than Marigold's, but that may be because Marigold usually hides them beneath some ugly clothing.
I guess we are soon back to the old discussion: Why are we fascinated with big boobs? And why on earth are robots fascinated with boobs (and porn)?
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I'm sure that May defaulting on her arrangements with Dale can only be a matter of time.
Boobs, good question. I think Pintsize's obsession is really only a joke that got out of hand, a vehicle for making him increasingly OTT and for creating slapstick gags about being thrown at the wall, tied up with duct tape etc. Why does he eat cake batter?
May, who knows. The original "Marigold's boobs" gag was just a vehicle for her being crass and behaving inappropriately, although she also had a gif about changing her holo image. Maybe tomorrow's joke will be that she is winding Marigold up and setting the stage for a confrontation with Dale and/or Momo, let's see
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Its kind of weird, maybe even unrealistic, that the socially awkward girl has the big boobs in this comic.
Goddammit, where is that Fujoshi pic I got from 4chan.....
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How is it unrealistic?
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How is it unrealistic?
Girls with big boobs may get more attention and compliments. Knowing you are pretty tends to increase self-confidence. On the other hand, Marigold might think people were making fun of her, thus decreasing her already low self-confidence.
I really do not know. I am not a girl.
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Its kind of weird, maybe even unrealistic, that the socially akward girl has the big boobs in this comic.
There's lots of socially awkward girls out there with large sweater kittens. They're lumps of fat on your chest not a magic "Make yourself the universe better" button.
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Marigold has had a secret admirer (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1534) before. But socially awkward boys and girls will not hook up with each other unless they get a lot of help from their friends.
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Marigold has had a secret admirer (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1534) before. But socially awkward boys and girls will not hook up with each other unless they get a lot of help from their friends.
EEEEWWWW, more creepy stuff!
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May is just saying out loud what Dale is thinking (and possibly motorboating).
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Some ideas have percolated in the back of my head about May. Unfortunately a lot of them are tied up in traditional gender roles (ugh). But it makes me wonder what May was like before she met Dale. Or if indeed she really is a she. Dale chose May's name, which she decided to keep. And her maid appearance was based on what metrics said that Dale should find appealing. But we have no idea what form she was using before, or if she even had a body before robot jail. We have no idea what gender if any she identified with. Or even really if AIs identify with genders, or just go along with what people see them as, given their chassis and personality traits.
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Marigold has had a secret admirer (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1534) before. But socially awkward boys and girls will not hook up with each other unless they get a lot of help from their friends.
Didn't we have this precise discussion just last week? Yes, that was also you, NilsO. I'm not sure if I'm the only one who objects to patronising "socially awkward" people, but can't we please can it with the comments on the oh so socially awkward nerds that would never get any action if they weren't pushed along by their friends? Why are you so damn keen on emphasising this point (which is not even true. Two people that are socially awkward with most others can be perfectly comfortable with each other) again and again?
Secondly: What the fuck?
Its kind of weird, maybe even unrealistic, that the socially akward girl has the big boobs in this comic.
People's boob size has nothing to do whatsoever with how confident they are or aren't. In the case of Marigold, we know that she is just generally uncomfortable with her body (or at least she used to be. Being with Dale probably helps her like her body more) and the fact that people keep noticing her boob size is probably quite a big part of that.
They're lumps of fat on your chest not a magic "Make yourself the universe better" button.
Thanks for that comment, that's quite well-put!
Thirdly, I am not comfortable with how Marigold's and Faye's bodies are discussed in this thread by some of you (not everyone in the discussion. I think it's quite clear which posts I'm talking about). If I'm the only one, ok, but maybe the predominantly male (at least I think so judging from the usernames) forum members partaking in this discussion can question whether it is really necessary and adequate to discuss which boobs are prettier in this thread. I mean, honestly, do you wonder that some girls are uncomfortable with their breasts if this is how they're discussed and assessed by others?
I have the fullest confidence that the mods know what they're doing, but I thought I'd just throw this out there.
Edit: Yes, my temper was a little heated while typing this post. Since it doesn't contain any personal attacks as far as I am aware, I will however leave it like this for now so people can see my honest reaction to this thread.
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Thank you, you have perfectly expressed how I feel about this but I didn't post it myself because, well, I feel like I say this stuff all the time and people are obviously ignoring me. Making sweeping generalisations and stereotypes is irritating, ignorant and inane, and critiquing people's bodies is demeaning and also creepy.
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Thirdly, I am not comfortable with how Marigold's and Faye's bodies are discussed in this thread by some of you (not everyone in the discussion. I think it's quite clear which posts I'm talking about). If I'm the only one, ok, but maybe the predominantly male (at least I think so judging from the usernames) forum members partaking in this discussion can question whether it is really necessary and adequate to discuss which boobs are prettier in this thread.
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I didn't post it myself because, well, I feel like I say this stuff all the time and people are obviously ignoring me.
It can be easy to get to feel like that as a mod; but if it needs saying we should be prepared to say it, which is our role. Others may not find it as repetitive as we do, because (a) often different people are taking part in the debate, and (b) many people just skim the threads anyway and forget much of what they've passed over (and also only read some threads in any case).
Thanks, Mlle Germain, for raising this when we were not dealing with it.
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Some ideas have percolated in the back of my head about May. Unfortunately a lot of them are tied up in traditional gender roles (ugh). But it makes me wonder what May was like before she met Dale. Or if indeed she really is a she. Dale chose May's name, which she decided to keep. And her maid appearance was based on what metrics said that Dale should find appealing. But we have no idea what form she was using before, or if she even had a body before robot jail. We have no idea what gender if any she identified with. Or even really if AIs identify with genders, or just go along with what people see them as, given their chassis and personality traits.
I don't believe AIs do identify with gender. The Idoru staff mention having been a fork truck, a submarine and a cash-control system of some kind; May was sent to robot jail for a failed scam intended to buy a fighter jet. Pintsize's fixation seems more like a running joke than anything else; it's clear from the outcome of his "date" that he cannot actually distinguish the configured gender of another AnthroPC on a functional level. Winslow might well not have a configured gender at all and the Linux "neck beard" joke is just that, a throw-away joke about Linux users
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It's not just on this forum, it's in real life too - I don't consider comments on my appearance from strangers to be flattering, I consider them to be creepy and demeaning. Someone I'm sleeping with, or a close friend, or possibly a family member, complimenting part of my appearance is ok because I know they care about me as a person first, and don't focus on what I look like. Someone I don't know? I don't care how flattering you think you are being, it isn't ok to appraise my body and then inform me that I've met your aesthetic standards.
Ben, good point about the trucks and submarines etc, but I think Pintsize's failed date actually shows that gender DOES matter to anthroPCs; the date got very upset about being misgendered and Pintsize felt weird about having felt attracted to a robot of a different gender to the one he thought they were.
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Several points together there. We don't know what actually happened to Pintsize but it's clear that he could not functionally identify the configured gender, and there is a fairly clear implication that the other AI couldn't either, until it was actually stated.
Given that Momo is known to have a "social protocol database" and Pintsize frequently does things specifically to be offensive or provocative the best reading I can put on it is that AIs of various kinds are influenced by their configuration to adopt social gender roles and I'd guess this is because it would be pretty much impossible to get humans to regard them as "persons" without some such convention.
Ships are conventionally regarded as "female" after all, as are locomotives on occasion; I can't think of any inanimate object which is "male"
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Thank you, you have perfectly expressed how I feel about this but I didn't post it myself because, well, I feel like I say this stuff all the time and people are obviously ignoring me. Making sweeping generalisations and stereotypes is irritating, ignorant and inane, and critiquing people's bodies is demeaning and also creepy.
I think it's good when you say something; there have been so many times when I felt someone should say something and you did or had already done so!
But of course it's not only the mods' job; other forum members can speak up as well. I am sometimes uncertain about doing it, though, just like you said. In my case it's also that I am still a comparatively new member.
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Ships are conventionally regarded as "female" after all, as are locomotives on occasion; I can't think of any inanimate object which is "male"
Depends on the language.
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Ships are conventionally regarded as "female" after all, as are locomotives on occasion; I can't think of any inanimate object which is "male"
Depends on the language.
True, but we are discussing an English language comic in English. Most other Slavic or European languages are inflected so that all objects have gender as a matter of course
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But of course it's not only the mods' job; other forum members can speak up as well. I am sometimes uncertain about doing it, though, just like you said.
We are comfortable with this. However, I would just issue a caution that some forums are not - there are those which call it back-seat modding, and consider it an infringement of the rules.
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Speaking as a male moderator, the boobs discussion was lifting the needle on the creepiness meter. Pushback is appropriate.
(regular user)AnthroPCs have a configuration option for gender (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=347).
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So, Pintsize's failed date was essentially down to differing interpretations of what those settings amounted to? I take it that the other AnthroPC was (analogously) "gay" - which makes no sense in terms of what Marten said, because it doesn't appear to be an option ? Or does it mean that an AnthroPC or whoever has administrator rights has discretion to configure its settings to the extent that another unit can't correctly interpret those settings?
Sorry, none of that makes sense?
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uh... He said that there were settings for gender. Male, Female and Gender-unidentified. That has nothing to do with sexuality. There could just as easily be gay robots.
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And why on earth are robots fascinated with boobs (and porn)?
For this, I'm reminded of Jeph's postscript for 1658 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/1658) on one of Momo's daydreams:
"No one is quite sure who decided it would be useful for artificial intelligences to posess libidos, but it is generally agreed that it would be more trouble than it is worth to remove it. Besides, the horny little buggers would revolt."
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Thank Grud that Marigold is on Mays Nice List - I'd hate to think what she'd have done if Marigold wasn't!
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But of course it's not only the mods' job; other forum members can speak up as well. I am sometimes uncertain about doing it, though, just like you said.
We are comfortable with this. However, I would just issue a caution that some forums are not - there are those which call it back-seat modding, and consider it an infringement of the rules.
Oh, I didn't mean that I have the same authority to moderate a discussion as you guys have (in the sense that "stop saying such things or bad stuff will happen"), just that if a forum member disagrees with/ is uncomfortable with what's being said, they should/could also voice their opinion.
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It depresses me how little men and frequently even other women don't get just how much more there is to having big boobs than 'hey, I have a great rack that people want to motorboat.' I've known and been with a lot of chesty girls, and rest assured, the grass is always greener. I am pleased with the response by certain forumites.
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Ships are conventionally regarded as "female" after all, as are locomotives on occasion; I can't think of any inanimate object which is "male"
Theirs like a whole flotilla of US Navy ships alone named after males. Some by ship class. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimitz_class_aircraft_carrier)
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So? They're still referred to as "she" or "her" when you're not giving the ships name explicitly.
Just as there's nothing stopping you from naming your boy "Sue" there's no rule that says a fine lady like the Eisenhower can't be called "Dwight."
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On the Great Lakes, about half the dwindling cargo fleet is named after men. A ship (overgrown and underpowered motor barge, really, but we take what we can get) is referred to as "she."
(EDIT: I should add, though, that along the lakes, it's not uncommon for someone on shore observing freighters doing freighter things to comment on what "he" is doing. Referring to the captain, perhaps?)
I am told, though, common usage in the Russian merchant and military fleet is to refer to a ship as "he" or "him."
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Russian is one of those languages with gendered nouns, though.
As is Norwegian. And in many dialects, including mine, with the "full" range of masculine, feminine, and neuter, with pronouns equally gendered, and choice of pronoun depending on the word for "ship" employed: If we're talking about "ei skute", we'd say "ho" (she), whereas if we're talking about "en båt", we'd say "han" (he). And of course, if we're talking about "et skip", we'd say "det" (it). :-P
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It's hardly decisive, but my friend calls his car "he", and the car is named Trebevor, due to the numberplate.
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I decided a while ago that my car is named Tyrion, but I would never refer to it as a gendered pronoun.
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Pintsize jumped to a conclusion because the other robot had a pink avatar (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=339).
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Various things above that are true in themselves but on,y to some extent.
Pintsize DID jump to a conclusion about the pink avatar. Both of them seem to have made the obvious mistake which Terry Pratchett's dwarves avert; they all look tbe same, so 80% of dwarf courtship consists of discreetly establishing tbe actual gender of the other one. It's also fairly clear that Discworld dwarves marry for functional reasons, ie they are concerned with transmission of property rights and (by implication) practice a high level of arranged marriage for that reason.
But Pintsize is basically a vehicle for gross-out humour which wouldn't work for a human character, so he gets away with it. The whole gag is that he is a box of plastic and wire with no actual gender at all. Why any if tbe characters put up with him, far less spend money on him is just an artefact of the background scenario.
Asimov's robot stories revolve around the sometimes unpredictable results of trying to create robot "personalities" (leaving aside the Will Smith film which has no recognisable connection with the Asimov oeuvre, really). Interestingly enough, Asimov postulates a robot who attempts to create the impression of finding "his" owner attractive to boost her self esteem, but she is scared stupid by it and he is returned to the factory toot-sweet. Of course, Asimov misses several points which would be obvious to a modern writer - the robot's brain and oersonality are integral and can't be reprogrammed or transferred, for one thing.
The Idoru robots are robots which happen to look like human females as currently configured.
Momo is interesting because of the civil rights aspect. In some ways she us more interesting than the human characters, who spend most if their time being snarky or obsessing over self-defined issues. May looked interesting at first but I do hope she doesn't turn into another Pintsize
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Ships are conventionally regarded as "female" after all, as are locomotives on occasion; I can't think of any inanimate object which is "male"
From what I understand, the Russians refer to ships and other machines as male. I haven't heard of anyone else doing this, but that doesn't mean there aren't others.
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Storyline Summary Time - Your fave so far?
The Return of May! 11 (31.4%)
Marigold and Dale 4 (11.4%)
Angus and Faye 1 (2.9%)
Martenmom and Jim 4 (11.4%)
Jimbo and "craft beers" 1 (2.9%)
Tai and Dora 3 (8.6%)
Claire and Emily 4 (11.4%)
The Band! 4 (11.4%)
Space Ham, Waffles and Space Tea! 0 (0%)
YELLING BIRD! 2 (5.7%)
Something else! 1 (2.9%)
Total Members Voted: 35
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Oh for GRUDS sake May, shut up and shut down for the night before you talk yourself OUT of Dales Apartment.
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Gruds?
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Whale songs have been mentioned in this context before (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=895).
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Ships are conventionally regarded as "female" after all, as are locomotives on occasion; I can't think of any inanimate object which is "male"
From what I understand, the Russians refer to ships and other machines as male. I haven't heard of anyone else doing this, but that doesn't mean there aren't others.
The only other exception that comes to mind is the Bismarck, which Hitler insisted be referred to as "he." Otherwise, I've heard of practically everything floaty from rowboats to guided missile cruisers referred to as "she."
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I once had a teacher who when asked why boats were called "she", she responded with "because men own them".
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AllllWeeeeeeOoooooo....
Try spicing up bedroom time with that. :psyduck:
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The only other exception that comes to mind is the Bismarck, which Hitler insisted be referred to as "he." Otherwise, I've heard of practically everything floaty from rowboats to guided missile cruisers referred to as "she."
Do people refer to the Titanic as "she"?
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They probably did, yeah.
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Going back in the archives, I noticed that Marigold's beauty marks have changed their position in her face... Look at comic 1560 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1560 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1560)) and 2716 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2716 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2716)).
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Beauty marks? Hmm. Based on her appearance and slovenly hygiene in the early comics, I always figured they were pimples. Especially in #1560, there are other marks like that (but smaller) on her face, too. It would not be surprising for pimples to apparently change location, as one heals and another appears.
However, in the later comic you linked (#2716), they do look more like beauty marks. Interesting. Perhaps two of the pimples (not necessarily the ones shown in #1560) were severe enough to leave scars, or perhaps they were beauty marks all along.
Her complexion does seem to have cleared up somewhat with the passage of time. Maybe because of an improved diet now that Momo is big enough to cook, along with regular showers once she started having friends who could be offended by her body odor...
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Marigold always had two distinctive beauty marks along with a bunch of pimples. Pimples appeared and disappeared at random, but the beauty marks stayed there, in a constant location. The bigger one started to drift, however...
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If May had been forced into a female chassis contrary to her gender identity, she would have complained by now.
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If May had been forced into a female chassis contrary to her gender identity, she would have complained by now.
Not so. If the settings can be changed arbitrarily by whoever has Administrator privileges, "she" would just accept it. I suspect, however, that an AI left in any one gender setting for long enough would tend to accrue a set of learned responses (I'm postulating here that they learn heuristic ally, which is pretty clearly implied in various times and places) and just changing the settings might not produce quite the required result.
This might be the root cause of why Pintsize and his "date" seemed to misunderstand each other. It would depend on what the settings actually consist of. His "date" might simply have regarded the settings as essentially irrelevant to a process which is inherently not sexual at all, in human terms.
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The only other exception that comes to mind is the Bismarck, which Hitler insisted be referred to as "he." Otherwise, I've heard of practically everything floaty from rowboats to guided missile cruisers referred to as "she."
Do people refer to the Titanic as "she"?
"Sunk."
So todays strippy.....think May might've crossed the sexual harassment line? Seems Marigold is a tad uncomfortable about something and yesterdays strippy end with May wanting to talk about Marigold's boobs......
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That's how it looks to me, as well. I mean, they were barely introduced and May's already focusing on Marigold's chest and their sexual activities.
May's tact (somewhere approximately that of a sledgehammer) may make for humour, in an sitcom sort of way, but I'd say she'd be yelled at before too long if she keeps it up.
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The whale noice remark is very unfortunate, since Marigold has this habit of comparing herself to a whale http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1880 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1880)
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The only other exception that comes to mind is the Bismarck, which Hitler insisted be referred to as "he." Otherwise, I've heard of practically everything floaty from rowboats to guided missile cruisers referred to as "she."
From what I know the Bismarck is female, just like every other ship. So it would be "Das Schlachtschiff Bismarck", Neutrum, but "Die Bismarck", Femininum. And if you referred to the person it'd be "Der Reichskanzler Bismarck".
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Heyoooo, longtime reader, first-time poster etc.
I registered to say this: I think today's comic shows, more than anything, how May is utterly euphoric atm. Does anyone get that impression as well, that compared with her grumpy first appearance she's that much more spunky now. She's overjoyed to be out of prison, you really can tell that with this random energy she's got atm. While the remark was crass, like most of her, her subsequent "wooo" ing really nails how she's bursting with joy atm.
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Welcome, new person!
There's some anxiety along with the giddiness.
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Marigold does not look happy at all with the arrangements. If May is sitting in the corner, I doubt there will be any fuckin' noises tonight (and certainly not whale noises). Dale probably has a single-room apartment, there is no extra room for May to stay in (except the bathroom, which is probably not an option).
So, what are they to do? Walk over to Marigold's apartment? They certainly do not want Momo watching either; on the other hand, Momo can stay in the living room while they use Marigold's bedroom, it has happened before (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2639). Angus may however make some fun of them, it has happened before (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1702).
There is going to be a Marbearcalypse soon...
EDIT: I really like May's facial expressions in today's comics. She is going to be a great addition to the main character list.
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Dale needs to walk over to Marten's apartment for some duct tape. That, or Momo will produce some sort of Deus ex Machina development.
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Dale is a practical guy. Any practical guy or girl will have plenty of duct tape available. Check out 1001 uses of duct tape (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CFwQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oregonemergency.com%2Fdocs%2Fconf%2Fpresentations%2Fberkery.ppt&ei=tYONU8u1C6iDyAPvyoGoDA&usg=AFQjCNF_lwjOfMLetsUF2I_ELzkNr8yKtA&sig2=RSVUMKvLMnYErYNWCcaFvQ&bvm=bv.68191837,d.bGQ&cad=rjt), it is hilarious. However, it does not mention silencing or immobilizing robots.
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Dale should solicit advice from Marten and Faye.
Though I note May, unlike Pintsize, appears undented after the Marigold one-on-one.
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I do not think this is a one room appartment. There is a door for Marigold to slam between the outer door and the sofa. There is room for a bookcase besides the outer door, so this is a substantial room, not just a tiny entry room (I can not find the English word for this).
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It's probably a one bedroom apartment, which means a room for sleeping and a living room.
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It's probably a one bedroom apartment, which means a room for sleeping and a living room.
If so, May could stay in the living room. I had the impression that she would sit in the corner of the bedroom, observing, but abstaining from comments (unless there were whale noises). Still, she could hear noises through the door.
The noisessss...
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Speaking as a male moderator, the boobs discussion was lifting the needle on the creepiness meter. Pushback is appropriate.
Well, considering that boobs and butts and sexual encounters appear frequently in QC, it is difficult to totally avoid the subject in the Forum. I assume that people who are easily offended, neither read the comics nor the Forum. Still, the Forum should not have a higher creepiness factor than the comics.
Some things to consider before posting:
- Will anybody be offended? In all probability, the answer is yes, unless you post pictures of cute kittens. Be careful.
- Avoid generalizations, especially gender-related.
- Avoid topics that may be defined as creepy (even if based on creepiness in the comics).
- Avoid any topic, really.
This is going to be a really dull forum...
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This is going to be a really dull forum...
Some years ago when we starting applying the current standards, a few people said just that. The traffic is higher now than it was then.
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Speaking as a male moderator, the boobs discussion was lifting the needle on the creepiness meter. Pushback is appropriate.
Well, considering that boobs and butts and sexual encounters appear frequently in QC, it is difficult to totally avoid the subject in the Forum. I assume that people who are easily offended, neither read the comics nor the Forum. Still, the Forum should not have a higher creepiness factor than the comics.
Will anybody be offended? In all probability, the answer is yes, unless you post pictures of cute kittens. Be careful.
This is so not the point! You're missing the point completely. First of all: Just because it's done in the comic (mostly for the effect of comedy) doesn't mean it's a great idea in real life. The characters sometimes also act dumb or mean, doesn't mean the readers should.
Secondly, the in-comic characters joking around about butts and boobs in a circle of friends is still something very different from people here assessing whether they prefer Faye's boobs to Marigold's etc. or generally making judgements about women's (or men's, for that matter) bodies or behaviours.
If you look at this forum, you will find that almost any topic, no matter how sensitive or private or controversial, from politics to racism to gender to sex, has been discussed here in a respectful and sensible manner (of course not without slips and some further discussion about what is acceptable and what isn't). When someone (especially the moderators) call you out on something you say, your reaction shouldn't be "Boo, people are easily offended here" it should be "What could I have written that was overly generalised, objectifies someone, is stereotypical in a bad way, or shows the way in which I think about minorities or marginalised groups in society in a bad light?" It doesn't mean that you have to agree with other people's opinion and also, people might sometimes misunderstand you, but you should at least question what you said to see whether their complaint was reasonable. Examining your own views and also sometimes admitting if you were wrong is part of being a decent person. If people are offended, there is usually a reason. Only very few people get offended purely for their own pleasure.
Ok, I promise I'm going to drop it now. Back to the comic discussion!
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Member of the United States Naval Service here. (Albeit a Marine, so amphibious, not a shellback) Ships are referred to in the feminine as a sign of affection between the ship and her crew. Some of it's tradition, and we're talking a tradition so old that history has lost the origin but it's continued today because it speaks to the close dependence we have on our ships for life, shelter, and sustenance a float.
Outside of naval traditions I find most people gender objects and machines that are dear or important to them in some way. With males tending to give cars, rifles, or whatever feminine names and pronouns, and women doing the opposite.
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When I think of May being misgendered, I'm imagining someone leaving her software setting in one state and forcing her into a differently-assigned chassis. Robot Jail might be run by someone like Joe Arpaio, who makes male prisoners wear pink underwear.
If she were configured "male" and downloaded into her current chassis, she would not suffer in silence.
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I don't think either of those things is anything like Joe Arpaio forcing tough guys to wear a traditionally "girly" color.
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No, May is just plain rude. We've seen from Momo that AIs will sit and watch their owners/companions , it seems to be a default behaviour; May appears to be saying that she has a long day ahead and wants to down-power, although whether that is simply a social thing, who knows? Frankly, if I had someone like her around I'd tend to feel that the more hours she spent switched off, tbe happier I'd be...
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This is so not the point! You're missing the point completely.
(https://www.whiskas.co.uk/kitten12/img/showcaseCats/kitten-language.jpg)
I rest my case.
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This is so not the point! You're missing the point completely.
(https://www.whiskas.co.uk/kitten12/img/showcaseCats/kitten-language.jpg)
I rest my case.
How dare you exploit that defenseless animal by distributing its picture here! I am so offended right now!
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That kitty rules the world. It is exploited by no one.
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Cats tend to do the exploiting. And we love them for it. Just fear the day when they figure out how to operate a tin opener with paws.
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Why do they need to know how to do that? That's why they have human slaves.
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That's exactly the point: they still need us.
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http://www.comicvine.com/the-sandman-18-dream-country-a-dream-of-a-thousand/4000-33047/
'Nuff said; one day they'll get sick of us and we'll be in serious trouble.
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That's exactly the point: they still need us.
I'd say less "need" and more "tolerate" :roll:
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http://www.comicvine.com/the-sandman-18-dream-country-a-dream-of-a-thousand/4000-33047/ (http://www.comicvine.com/the-sandman-18-dream-country-a-dream-of-a-thousand/4000-33047/)
'Nuff said; one day they'll get sick of us and we'll be in serious trouble.
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A one-year lease in the QC-verse... that's, what, six years in "standard" time? :)
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Considering how casually she was drinking scotch older than Marten, I doubt money's really an issue for her anyway. Also this comic shouldn't be up until the 22nd century or so :roll: (points to #)
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*flop* this one cut me right to the quick. Apartment hunting is hard and rent's expensive *cries in the corner*
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A one-year lease in the QC-verse... that's, what, six years in "standard" time? :)
Them if this comic keeps going there will be a day when it will stop being mild futuristic and become mild retro?
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A one-year lease in the QC-verse... that's, what, six years in "standard" time? :)
Them if this comic keeps going there will be a day when it will stop being mild futuristic and become mild retro?
Yes. Think "Archie" or "Family Circus," but with mild technophilia and better musical references.
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Considering how casually she was drinking scotch older than Marten, I doubt money's really an issue for her anyway. Also this comic shouldn't be up until the 22nd century or so :roll: (points to #)
Additional support for your position is that she was at the top (no pun intended) of her profession and had some seriously rich clients. She probably operates more than one website, and sexyfruitstompingvixens.com alone brings in USD2K per moth.
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VV has a definite point. I'm in San Francisco, and rents here make everyone but Manhattanites cringe...
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It's really weird how that varies... Part of it is probably the conversion rate, but I moved from one of the most expensive university towns in Germany to admittedly also one of the most expensive university towns in the UK and was quite shocked at the rent (mine is even subsidised and it's still sooo expensive!), but I've heard people who were in the US or Canada before say that they actually find it perfectly normal to quite cheap compared to what they had before.
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I like VV's new look. As long as it's not part of a plot to lock Dora in a dungeon and steal her identity.
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Faye is quite right about the difference in real estate prices in the South. Moving from North Carolina to Massachusetts was a bit of a shock for us. Slightly smaller house, much smaller yard, three times the price. My dad's house (that he paid $16,000 for in 1961) would be a multi-million dollar estate here.
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Considering how casually she was drinking scotch older than Marten, I doubt money's really an issue for her anyway. Also this comic shouldn't be up until the 22nd century or so :roll: (points to #)
Additional support for your position is that she was at the top (no pun intended) of her profession and had some seriously rich clients. She probably operates more than one website, and sexyfruitstompingvixens.com alone brings in USD2K per moth.
I have just registered that domain. I have no idea what I'm going to do with it, but I have it.
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Even if she stops being a dominatrix, she'll probably easily live off the royalties for life, and fairly comfortably so too.
GM - make a Fruit Swipe clone :mrgreen:
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I think the clue is in the title, Garand. Get some fruit, get some boots, and start stompin'! Even if you make no money, you'll end up with more smoothies than you could possibly ever want :mrgreen:
Failing that, Fruit Ninja with boots? EDIT: Aw, shucks, Method beat me to it. :-(
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I like VV's new look. As long as it's not part of a plot to lock Dora in a dungeon and steal her identity.
That's Marten's job.
I think he's been eating too well to pull it off these days though.
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Now recruiting vixens, bring your own boots!
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Now recruiting vixens, bring your own boots!
And what do they say?
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Well this comic is accurate... My current apartment in MN is $849/mo and is 715 sq ft, but has no laundry or storage rooms (though I do get free heat and underground parking). My apartment in GA was $685/mo and about 650 sq ft, but I had a personal laundry room and storage, and was on the ground floor as well; complex also had an exercise room and decent sized pool. Apartment in CA was $885/mo and was like 600 sq ft...and was probably the cheapest option in town.
Yeah, CA is messed up.
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Now recruiting vixens, bring your own boots!
And what do they say?
Stomp stomp stomp stomp stomp st-stomp
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So she's setting up here Eyrie and already has eyes on her Padawan
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Now recruiting vixens, bring your own boots!
So Foxes hopping around in Pajars?
Why not Kitty Softpaws practicing iaido ? :-D
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Now recruiting vixens, bring your own boots!
So Foxes hopping around in Pajars?
Why not Kitty Softpaws practicing iaido ? :-D
You know... if I marketed that to the furries and weeaboos, I'd probably make a tidy fortune.
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OH MY GOSH :wow:
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Yes, Hannelore, they did kiss.
Among other things.
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Yes, they also had pleasurable intercourse.
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Seeing Hanners in that hat the thought came to mind that it's surprising we don't see her wearing hats more often. With her concerns about various health issues you'd think she'd want to keep the UV rays away. Not to mention that wearing a hat would reduce the chance of getting bird poop on her head, something she might be a bit worried about.
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(http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/files/2009/04/tinfoil-hat.jpg)I am happy Hanners is not wearing a tin foil hat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat), as that would be more worrisome. Still, her otherwise nice hat might of course have hidden tin foil inside.
Hanners and Veronica seem to get along well, even if Veronica's career should really make Hanners shudder. What is the significance of this?
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Hanners doesn't morally disapprove of the things other people do, she just can't do them herself. At least, not if it risks contamination by body fluids. She evidently wants to be 'normal', so maybe taking that kind of interest is part of her learning process.
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On why Hanners might like Veronica; VV has poise and natural authority, hannermom has rage issues and megalomania. I suspect for Hanners it's like looking into a mirror universe and finding out she was in the "evil" one all along.
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(http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/files/2009/04/tinfoil-hat.jpg)I am happy Hanners is not wearing a tin foil hat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat), as that would be more worrisome. Still, her otherwise nice hat might of course have hidden tin foil inside.
Does anyone still make tin foil any more? It's pretty much been replaced by alumin(i)um foil, hasn't it?
Admittedly, "alumin(i)um foil hat" does not roll as trippingly off the tongue...
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Hannelore would not wear a tin foil hat. Or an aluminum foil hat. Hers would be made of high-conductivity beryllium-copper alloy, just to be sure. Possibly backed by a high-tensile composite shell for additional safety. With a worry hat on top.
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Hanners doesn't morally disapprove of the things other people do, she just can't do them herself.
In contrast to Claire, who on several occasions (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2370) has been quite judgmental (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2653). Not quite like Emily either, who is just weird (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2572). More like Marten, who seems to be very tolerant (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2323).
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Hannelore would not wear a tin foil hat. Or an aluminum foil hat. Hers would be made of high-conductivity beryllium-copper alloy, just to be sure. Possibly backed by a high-tensile composite shell for additional safety. With a worry hat on top.
Would that not be worse though? It might amplify any mind control field.
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I just noticed, Ms Reed must be tall! She's a bit taller than Hannelore, who Jeph has said to be rather tall for a woman. No less, she seem to be slightly taller or about the same height as Jim, and much more so than Marten. Marten and Hannelore are about equally tall, so do we get maybe 175 cm for Marten and around 185 for Veronica? She must be used to it by now.
Hanners doesn't morally disapprove of the things other people do, she just can't do them herself. At least, not if it risks contamination by body fluids. She evidently wants to be 'normal', so maybe taking that kind of interest is part of her learning process.
This is borderlining creepy again, but with some boolean logic certain implications of these statements could be drawn...
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Hannelore would not wear a tin foil hat. Or an aluminum foil hat. Hers would be made of high-conductivity beryllium-copper alloy, just to be sure. Possibly backed by a high-tensile composite shell for additional safety. With a worry hat on top.
Something like this? If so, I really hope she is able to camouflage it inside some nice designer hat.
(http://www.thelonesomejackalope.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/UFO-Tin-Foil-Hat.jpg)
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Does anyone still make tin foil any more? It's pretty much been replaced by alumin(i)um foil, hasn't it?
Admittedly, "alumin(i)um foil hat" does not roll as trippingly off the tongue...
The Wikipedia articloe linked by the post you queted starts:
"A tin foil hat is a hat made from one or more sheets of aluminium foil,"
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I just noticed, Ms Reed must be tall! She's a bit taller than Hannelore, who Jeph has said to be rather tall for a woman. No less, she seem to be slightly taller or about the same height as Jim, and much more so than Marten. Marten and Hannelore are about equally tall, so do we get maybe 175 cm for Marten and around 185 for Veronica? She must be used to it by now.
175cm wouldn't be very tall for a woman, though, and rather short, though not extremely short, for a guy. I would put Marten more at 180cm. 185cm for Veronica seems about right. Of course, this is pure guesswork. The characters have also changed height during the comic and sometimes it's hard to tell their relative heights due to perspective.
Is 185 cm extremely tall for a woman in the US? In Germany, it is very tall, but I know quite a few women that tall; it's not rare among women my age to be 180cm or taller, though apparently pretty rare in the overall population according to Wikipedia. I am not sure I trust Wikipedia there; if their statistics are true, my circle of friends and acquaintances is quite a statistical anomaly...
I am 172 cm, which is above average, but not by much at least in my age group.
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175cm is 68.9 inches, so it's a smidge under the average height for men, but she would be somewhat tall for a woman (avg height is 5'5" or 165cm).
Is 185 cm extremely tall for a woman in the US?
6'1" is very tall for a woman even in the US. I've only ever met maybe seven or eight women that are over 6'.
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Sarah's cousin is about 185cm (slightly taller than I am).
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6 foot 1 is considered tall for a woman in the US.
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I just noticed, Ms Reed must be tall! She's a bit taller than Hannelore, who Jeph has said to be rather tall for a woman. No less, she seem to be slightly taller or about the same height as Jim, and much more so than Marten. Marten and Hannelore are about equally tall, so do we get maybe 175 cm for Marten and around 185 for Veronica? She must be used to it by now.
175cm wouldn't be very tall for a woman, though, and rather short, though not extremely short, for a guy. I would put Marten more at 180cm. 185cm for Veronica seems about right. Of course, this is pure guesswork. The characters have also changed height during the comic and sometimes it's hard to tell their relative heights due to perspective.
It's also worth noting that Martenmom tends to wear heels rather frequently.
In other news, I find the juxtaposition of Sam and Hanner's reactions amusing.
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Hannelore would not wear a tin foil hat. Or an aluminum foil hat. Hers would be made of high-conductivity beryllium-copper alloy, just to be sure. Possibly backed by a high-tensile composite shell for additional safety. With a worry hat on top.
Would that not be worse though? It might amplify any mind control field.
There is a funny research paper (http://web.archive.org/web/20100708230258/http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/) that seems to confirm this.
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Yeah, 175cm is definitely tall for a woman here in the States and 185cm is very tall.
See:
http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0209.pdf
(175cm is a hair under 5'9" and 185cm is a bit less than 6'1".)
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I prefer 'vertically enhanced', thank you very much...
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Can someone please explain the joke behind 'space ham'? I know which strip it's from, but I don't understand why it's a meme on the forum. It seems every poll here has 'space ham' or 'spathe ham' as one of the options. And I want to know what I'm voting for.
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Because it's a meme. It's something that tickled the funny bone of enough forum goers that it's become a 'thing' here. It's really just as simple as that.
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Can someone please explain the joke behind 'space ham'? I know which strip it's from, but I don't understand why it's a meme on the forum. It seems every poll here has 'space ham' or 'spathe ham' as one of the options. And I want to know what I'm voting for.
It's getting to be like a Saturday Night Live sketch. Take an idea that was mildly cute or funny the first time, and repeat 'til it's lost whatever spark it had.
Just my opinion, mind you. YMMV.
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You know what the polls need? More cowbell.
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LEEEROYYYYYYYYYYY JENKINS
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LEEEROYYYYYYYYYYY JENKINS
God dammit Leroy!
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At least I've got chicken.
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At least I've got chicken.
I was thinking he said "At least I'm not chicken".
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...oh god, no, please don't let that be true. That's not NEARLY AS FUNNY. I always figured he was saying "whatever we're all dead but at least I have a tasty snack". I'm not going to check and please nobody tell me if that's the case because doing so will ruin Leroy Jenkins.
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Hannercute overload
Hmmmm, in that dress she reminds me of Hikari Konohana from Strawberry Panic
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Spathe chicken.
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Guess two folks are going to the Thrift Store!! There has to be something for May that hasn't been picked over. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1537)
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At least May intends to look for work. I have a sudden vision of the two current arcs intersecting: Veronica decides to hire May as her personal assistant.
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At least May intends to look for work. I have a sudden vision of the two current arcs intersecting: Veronica decides to hire May as her personal assistant.
Plausible enough. I get the feeling they'd get along quite well.
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At least May intends to look for work. I have a sudden vision of the two current arcs intersecting: Veronica decides to hire May as her personal assistant.
I suspect they might end up as roommates after May wears out her welcome with Dale.
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I was wondering... How humanoid a machine can be without needing human clothing?
Or maybe due to loopholes they technically aren't obliged to wear clothes, they just do it to better blend in society...
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I'd assumed all along that humanoid AIs did it to appear conventional; Pintsize wears his tie for "dates" as a social convention but clearly doesn't feel the need to wear anything.
The Idoru staff wear quasi-uniform clothing to indicate job status and indicate that "human" social conventions should be employed when interacting with them. Whether Momo really has any actual anatomical details, who knows but certainly if she walked around "uncovered" that would be tantamount to saying "I'm a machine not covered by human conventions".
May's orange suit is a prison uniform, then. This suggests in turn that she had no clothes to return on release and hence, wasn't previously humanoid, or maybe effects are returned to the original owner or sold, who knows. I'd guess that the "hundred bucks for essentials" is for transport; AIs don't eat and are capable of walking but that's not always a good way to get about, too slow. Presumably they need recharging in some way? That won't be free. They have internet capability and therefore, presumably have data charges if using public networks.
Momo was referred to as having "needs" as a throw-away joke on a couple of occasions, but AIs have needs in a literal sense, too
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Presumably they need recharging in some way?
They run on Volvonium. Hardest stuff known to man.
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Pintsize needs to be supplied with delicious alternating current. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=701)
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As usual May showing up makes for a happy GM.
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Presumably they need recharging in some way?
They run on Volvonium. Hardest stuff known to man.
Unobtanium, surely?
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Unobtanium, surely?
Stupidium is almost impossible to destroy.
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why does a robot even need to wear clothes anyway?
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Unobtanium, surely?
Stupidium is almost impossible to destroy.
Yeah but it's just as impossible to turn into something useful too.
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At least May intends to look for work. I have a sudden vision of the two current arcs intersecting: Veronica decides to hire May as her personal assistant.
Let us hope May is not hired by Hannermom. Angry Hannermom seeking revenge plus May with a rocket launcher is not a good combination.
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Sounds like a great combination to me.
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maybe marten's mom will take may on as her new protege? as i understand it, some guys will pay a lot of money to get vulgar insults thrown at them.
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maybe marten's mom will take may on as her new protege? as i understand it, some guys will pay a lot of money to get vulgar insults thrown at them.
I had a friend that got $500.....crushing Matchbox cars with her feet and provided shoes once a week. No sexual contact whatsoever. I thought "damn, what did you incite to get that gig?"
Reason #3490 why I should've been a female......
Presumably they need recharging in some way?
They run on Volvonium. Hardest stuff known to man.
Unobtanium, surely?
Ever see a Volvo worse for wear after an accident? Cause the Swedes created Volvonium.
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Guess two folks are going to the Thrift Store!! There has to be something for May that hasn't been picked over. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1537)
May would look pimpin' in a fur coat with ermine trim 8-)
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So what is essential to May? I wonder how much of the money she's already spent.
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Actually, May could possibly get a really good job working as a security consultant. IRL, 5 years in Federal prison did wonders for Mitnick's career. May's time in the inside might translate into a similarly nice position with a bank. After all, it takes a thief to catch one. Even though she got caught in the end, there's no way she could have stolen what she did without some serious skills.
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Frank Abagnale (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale) is doing quite well for himself, too.
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So what is essential to May? I wonder how much of the money she's already spent.
Read today's title...
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$100 is pretty generous - I think in most human prisons people get less than that when they leave.
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So what is essential to May? I wonder how much of the money she's already spent.
Read today's title...
I should've clarified, what's essential to May that could be bought for $100 or less :roll:
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Perhaps she is saving for her rocket launcher.
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I think what we're seeing here is that AnthroPC's are both "good" and "bad". For Pintsize, there's Winslow; for Momo, there's May. (The AnthroUnixPC is just... well, out there.)
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Storyline Summary Time - Your fave so far?
The Return of May! 18 (38.3%)
Marigold and Dale 4 (8.5%)
Angus and Faye 1 (2.1%)
Martenmom and Jim 5 (10.6%)
Jimbo and "craft beers" 1 (2.1%)
Tai and Dora 3 (6.4%)
Claire and Emily 4 (8.5%)
The Band! 4 (8.5%)
Space Ham, Waffles and Space Tea! 0 (0%)
YELLING BIRD! 4 (8.5%)
Something else! 3 (6.4%)
MORE COWBELL! 0 (0%)
Total Members Voted: 47
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How is Pintsize "bad" by any stretch of the imagination?
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How is Pintsize "bad" by any stretch of the imagination?
Remember what the salesperson said after the biometrics indicated that Pintsize was the most compatible companion (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2335) for Marten?
"Oookay, before you meet your new companion, I should probably go over our return procedure. And our criminal liability agreement. And our insurance policies."
So even before Pintsize and Marten first got together, Pintsize already had a reputation for property damage and criminal behavior. How is that not bad?
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I dunno, "bad" just seem a bit much.
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I think the words are in quotes for a reason. None of the ones mentioned are 100% good or bad, but they do make it pretty clear whether they prefer to embrace order or chaos.
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I'd say Pintsize is closer to good than bad, although neutral seems most fitting.
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Obnoxious should be an option.
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Chaotic Neutral.
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Better she winds up with Veronica rather than Hannermom - that combination is just too frightening to contemplate.
May in Army Surplus, that would suit her I think.
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May in Army Surplus, that would suit her I think.
For casual wear, yeah. If she wants any white-collar work, though, she's going to need an interview suit.
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Better she winds up with Veronica rather than Hannermom - that combination is just too frightening to contemplate.
Might be a minion for EvilHanners - She'll need a basic black suit (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2443) from KMart.
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Good Hanners also owns that suit. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1708) She's probably working for the evil one though.
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QC of AIs seems to be an issue. Idoru appear well aware they have a residual stock of units which no-one might reasonably be exoected to want.
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Moment of the Week?!
Now that we're friends, let's talk about your AMAZING RACK. 4 (18.2%)
She'll be propped up in a corner if they need her. 1 (4.5%)
Unless you make really funny ones. Like, whale noises. All weeeeeeeooooo 2 (9.1%)
Mom just signed the lease for "a LOVELY one-bedroom apartment on Main street." 1 (4.5%)
Those apartments are WAY overpriced. (She's from California. Your prices are LAUGHABLE.) 3 (13.6%)
Hannelore and her hat says Hi to Martenmom! 1 (4.5%)
(furtive looks) did you kiss Yes. (OH MY GOSH) 8 (36.4%)
I don't wanna know what you think qualifies as a "necessity." 2 (9.1%)
Total Members Voted: 22