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Title: Clairemom's income?
Post by: NemoX on 23 Oct 2014, 11:07
So after my last Archive binge, I started wondering about a few things I read about in the WCDT's as of late.

Some people were pointing to this strip (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1983) as Marten having met Claire's mom before, but other than the red hair, I don't actually see a resemblance (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2809) so I'm wondering if it was just a joke.

Either way, I got to thinking, I know AnthroPCs are common in the QCU, so they are affordable enough for mass consumption as companions but the humans still being in charge or maintenance costs (and during the whole Momo upgrade we learned chassis are not cheap (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1995). Marten actually lucked out with the government issue one for pintsize). So the technology is affordable. But I don't see how having to upgrade a robot hand for Claire's brother as he grew up and inevitably outgrew it could have been cheap, let alone hormone replacement therapy for Claire. I'm pretty sure alimony (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2371) doesn't cover that kind of thing either from their father.

From the background given, their house is also pretty decent looking. I would have guessed them to be working middle class. I dunno how much or if Clinton helps with the income. Even if Claire has a student loan, school is not cheap. So how can they afford it all is what I'm puzzled about...

It is said if something doesn't make sense, one of the pieces of information you have is probably wrong, so would anyone like to enlighten me here? which of my assumptions is wrong? Or is Clairemom a single mother of two with a really big debt and good at hiding it? is the Healthcare in QC different than irl? I don't recall anywhere being mentioned what she actually does for a living either. so yeah, kinda wondering about this.


edit: fixed some links/citations
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 23 Oct 2014, 11:15
Mom is an assassin for hire. She doesn't bother picking up the phone for less than half a million dollars.


Edit: contraction.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: NemoX on 23 Oct 2014, 11:20
Mom is an assassin for hire. She does bother picking up the phone for less than half a million dollars.

Maybe Beatrice is her employer then =p

that'd be an interesting twist lol
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: AprilArcus on 23 Oct 2014, 11:37
Hormone replacement therapy is actually not expensive at all. Ballpark range is $2/day, paying out of pocket, and it's very likely to have been covered by whatever Claire's student health insurance was in college.

If she needed any hair removal, that would definitely be an expensive challenge (laser doesn't work on redheads, and electrolysis is ~$100/hour). But we have no idea how much she needed (possibly only a few tens of hours) or if she ever even bothered with it.

Edit to add: Almost nobody in the QC universe is poor. Hannelore, Angus, and Wil all come from money. Marigold's family is at the very least able and willing to financially support her. Dora, in her mid-twenties, has enough capital to put together a business capable of supporting five of her friends. Marten can walk through the door and get hired for a cushy library job on the spot. Jimbo can quit his blue collar job and make a living as a writer. Housing is available and affordable for everyone. Dale is the only character who struggles to make ends meet that I can think of, and he seems miraculously free of resentment about it.

Also, it never rains.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: NemoX on 23 Oct 2014, 11:43
Hormone replacement therapy is actually not expensive at all. Ballpark range is $2/day, paying out of pocket, and it's very likely to have been covered by whatever Claire's student health insurance was in college.

If she needed any hair removal, that would definitely be an expensive challenge (laser doesn't work on redheads, and electrolysis is ~$100/hour). But we have no idea how much she needed (possibly only a few tens of hours) or if she ever even bothered with it.

And there would be the piece of info I had wrong. I was under the assumption that it would be more expensive than that. Thanks for the clarification.

The Clinton's hand issue I guess would have depended on how much time there was in between replacements so gives time for saving I suppose.

Also, wait, laser does not work on redheads? Why is that?
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: AprilArcus on 23 Oct 2014, 11:49
Laser hair removal works by bombarding the skin with light at a frequency absorbed specifically by the melanin in the hair strands and reflected harmlessly by the skin. This causes the hair to act as an antenna, capturing light energy as heat and channeling it into the hair follicle, where it burns away the keratinocytes which secrete hair proteins.

Redheads and dark-skinned people do not have enough contrast between hair and skin pigmentation to make this process feasible, since supplying enough energy to burn the hair would also burn their skin.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: MooskiNet on 23 Oct 2014, 11:51
Dale is the only character who struggles to make ends meet that I can think of, and he seems miraculously free of resentment about it.

And he lives alone, drank 3 dollar a cup coffee before he started working at CoD, and could afford to play games on multiple platforms.  He may have just been supporting his lifestyle.

Also, it never rains.

I'm so tempted to borrow that as a quote.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Aimless on 23 Oct 2014, 11:51
Pretty sure she's an assassin, how else would she be able to give Claire such an unacceptably good life? :o
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: NemoX on 23 Oct 2014, 12:00

And he lives alone, drank 3 dollar a cup coffee before he started working at CoD, and could afford to play games on multiple platforms.  He may have just been supporting his lifestyle.


Actually, I am surprised that he can afford all that and the time to play games like WoW. He may have multiple jobs, but there are all low income jobs (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2498) that with how much time he can realistically work at each, and he already spent a bunch of money on his glasses, not to mention he uses most of the money to support his mom (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2496).


Quote from: AprilArcus
interesting info

Thanks again, TIL new things because of you, always a good thing to learn something new :)

edit: avoiding double posting for a reply
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: DSL on 23 Oct 2014, 12:31
Pretty sure she's an assassin, how else would she be able to give Claire such an unacceptably good life? :o

Unacceptably? (Also, I'll just posit that Clairemom is rakin' it in as The Food Network's Pancake Queen.)
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 23 Oct 2014, 12:37
I agree with the Assassin theory.

Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Neko_Ali on 23 Oct 2014, 12:48
In the end really, they all make as much money as plot demands. About the only time even close to a shortage of money has come up was when Marigold bought Momo's new chassis, and Marten bought the 8 string guitar. Despite having multiple jobs Dale lives pretty cushy, supporting his mom, living alone and able to afford anime and high end tech toys. And he has enough free time to play WoW and keep up with Marigold, who seems to spend a lot of time in the game.

As far as Mrs A goes, it's quite possible, even likely that her the house was part of the divorce settlement. The same with medical coverage for their kids, either for insurance or out of pocket. Being as how the divorce was Mr A's fault (caught cheating), a judge is more likely to side with Mrs A and give her the lion's share of what the split is, especially if she was made primary or sole caregiver of one or both children.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: AprilArcus on 23 Oct 2014, 13:00
I don't think that's how divorce law works. In general two partners keep whatever was theirs going into a marriage and evenly divide whatever they accrued while married. Child support is then awarded after custody has been determined. If they bought the house while married, it was equally theirs, and Claire's mom likely had to buy her ex husband out of his share, or agreed to keep him on as a silent partner for the sake of Claire and Clinton's stability.

I am sort of confused by this whole line of speculation. Do we have any reason to believe that she doesn't work a relatively high-income job herself?
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 23 Oct 2014, 13:06
As a self employed person, I can say getting by ain't easy. But QC wouldn't be the first bit of fiction to gloss over the difficulty of making ends meet and getting enough to eat. I don't what costs are like In Northampton, but I'm guessing things aren't quite at a Friends-level of make believe.

I doubt it would be too difficult for a professional adult to make a decent living in Northampton. It's not like there's a recession on.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 23 Oct 2014, 13:31
Health insurance is more readily available and covers more in the QC universe than in ours. For example, The Pugnacious Peach has insurance coverage for her glasses while working at a skilled but low-end job. (Wait, am I right about that?)

Clinton's hand could easily have been covered by accident insurance.

Claire's transition: don't all the gatekeepers need to get paid before treatment can start?

The fact that we haven't heard about Clairemom's job is (weak!) evidence that she doesn't have an interesting one.

Division of assets in a divorce depends critically on variations from one state's law to the next.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: cesium133 on 23 Oct 2014, 13:34
Health insurance is more readily available and covers more in the QC universe than in ours. For example, The Pugnacious Peach has insurance coverage for her glasses while working at a skilled but low-end job. (Wait, am I right about that?)
IIRC, she used Marten's insurance.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Neko_Ali on 23 Oct 2014, 13:41
I don't know how divorce law works. I know that Mr A would be legally responsible for part of the children's upbringing until they turn 18 via child support or some other method. As far as Mrs A working goes.. We have know idea. We've seen her in all of a few strips over one breakfast at home. For all we know she runs a multi-billion dollar financial empire and is business rivals with Hannermom. As well as a super-secret spy in her spare time between that and raising two kids. Stranger things have happened in the QCverse.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: AprilArcus on 23 Oct 2014, 14:12
Claire's transition: don't all the gatekeepers need to get paid before treatment can start?

Trans services are much less gatekept now than they were ten years ago. If there's an informed consent clinic in your neck of the words, you could make an appointment and walk out with a prescription tomorrow. From the website of Baystate Health (http://baystatehealth.com/Baystate/Main+Nav/About+Us/Locations/Baystate+Medical+Practices/Primary+Care/High+Street+Health+Center+-+Adult+Medicine/Transgender) in Northhampton:

Quote
Baystate Health has developed services based on the Informed Consent model of care, meaning that we work with our patients to ensure that the risks and benefits of gender-related services are fully understood at all times. Gender-related therapy is an encouraged--but not required--part of treatment for most patients.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 23 Oct 2014, 14:24
Like I said. Assassin.

She only picked up the phone because Beatrice Chatham might consider one Marten Reed to be a threat to her daughter, Hannelore.

This completely changes the subtext of 2805 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2805) and 2809 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2809).
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: valkygrrl on 23 Oct 2014, 16:10

Also, it never rains.

Haven't you seen the crow?

Quote from: the crow
It can't rain all the time

By the associative property; all the time it can't rain.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: MooskiNet on 23 Oct 2014, 17:13
In all seriousness, until I'm told otherwise, it pleases me to think that Clairemom is an attorney who does pro bono work for good causes and absofuckinglutely ownZ0r3d Clairedad when he cheated.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: valkygrrl on 23 Oct 2014, 17:21
In all seriousness, until I'm told otherwise, it pleases me to think that Clairemom is an attorney who does pro bono work for good causes and absofuckinglutely ownZ0r3d Clairedad when he cheated.

She's a marine drill sergeant that's why Claire reacted the way she did to Veronica.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 23 Oct 2014, 17:28
She's the 13th Doctor. Finally ginger.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 23 Oct 2014, 17:32
She's a marine drill sergeant that's why Claire reacted the way she did to Veronica.

I definitely like this, but I think her being an assassin or a Bene Gesserit is more likely... :D
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: MooskiNet on 23 Oct 2014, 17:36
So you're thinking she used Voice on Marten when he called?

"Noo trouble... I inszizt."
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Neko_Ali on 23 Oct 2014, 17:38
Except that Marten has built up at least a partial resistance from his mother. Who knows.. Maybe he is the Kwisatz Haderach... The the unmotivated, easy going one. Kwisatz Hipsterach?
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: MooskiNet on 23 Oct 2014, 17:40
Try looking into that place where only the procrastinators can look; you will see me staring out at you!
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 23 Oct 2014, 17:44
The water of life is really a PBR.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 23 Oct 2014, 17:47
They call that one...  Paul, Morbeard.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 23 Oct 2014, 17:51
It is by will alone, I set my mind in motion.
It is by the juice of Pabst Brewing,
Thoughts lose all speed,
Cheeks acquire stains,
The stains become a warning.
It is by will alone, I set my mind in motion.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 23 Oct 2014, 17:54
I must drink beer.
Beer is the mind killer.
Beer is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my beer.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me, and when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
When the beer is gone, there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 23 Oct 2014, 18:04
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Zebediah on 23 Oct 2014, 18:23
Try looking into that place where only the procrastinators can look; you will see me staring out at you!

Yeah, I'll get to that tomorrow.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 23 Oct 2014, 18:26
Try looking into that place where only the procrastinators can look; you will see me staring out at you!

Yeah, I'll get to that tomorrow.
Yeah. I should probably get to the stuff I said, yesterday, I would do today.

Maybe later.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 23 Oct 2014, 18:37
Try looking into that place where only the procrastinators can look; you will see me staring out at you!

Yeah, I'll get to that tomorrow.

You forget the first rule of the procrastinators creed. 

- Never put off till tomorrow what you can forget about!
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Neko_Ali on 23 Oct 2014, 19:10
meh. Why bother thinking about it?
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: valkygrrl on 23 Oct 2014, 19:13
meh. Why bother thinking about it?

What? Sorry I was tweeting.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 23 Oct 2014, 20:40
Rather than doing the stuff I put off yesterday, I watched a movie.

It a starred Tom Cruise.
It was surprisingly good.

I'm not prepared to accept that those two facts can apply to the same movie. I'm having and existential crisis. I may have to do something to survive.

Pray for me.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 23 Oct 2014, 23:17
In all seriousness, until I'm told otherwise, it pleases me to think that Clairemom is an attorney who does pro bono work for good causes and absofuckinglutely ownZ0r3d Clairedad when he cheated.

She's a marine drill sergeant that's why Claire reacted the way she did to Veronica.

If you're around a Marine, be careful to say "drill instructor" instead.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: valkygrrl on 23 Oct 2014, 23:31
In all seriousness, until I'm told otherwise, it pleases me to think that Clairemom is an attorney who does pro bono work for good causes and absofuckinglutely ownZ0r3d Clairedad when he cheated.

She's a marine drill sergeant that's why Claire reacted the way she did to Veronica.

If you're around a Marine, be careful to say "drill instructor" instead.

Noted: Apologies to any marines.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 23 Oct 2014, 23:49
Noted: Apologies to any marines.

No offense taken.  The drone strikes have been canceled.   :)
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: valkygrrl on 23 Oct 2014, 23:55
Noted: Apologies to any marines.

No offense taken.  The drone strikes have been canceled.   :)

I thought you were a musket-Claire.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: bhtooefr on 24 Oct 2014, 03:26
Clinton's hand could easily have been covered by accident insurance.

Or a lawsuit payout. In fact, if someone sold fireworks to Clinton inside the Massachusetts borders, they'd quite likely be liable for everything, as private citizens are banned from usage, possession, and sale of fireworks, and Clinton was a minor (so unable to enter into a contract, and I'd think not civilly liable for his share): http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/dfs/news/press/fireworks/lawenforcement.pdf

Alternately, the lawsuit could've been against someone at a party that was using fireworks just as easily.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: BenRG on 24 Oct 2014, 05:12
Offered without evidence or any reason except the potential for story-telling and lulz:

Former exotic dancer and collaborator to Veronica Vance; now 'gone straight' as a professional home-maker but writes romantic fiction professionally and is one of Tai's artistic idols. As a college student, she and Veronica did a double-act at an adult club in San Francisco. One customer who always tipped handsomely and asked for a private dance was one Beatrice Chatham.

I came up with this probabilty-defying idea because the thought of Marten, Claire and Hannelore finding out that their mothers were once cronies... possibly friends... or, dare we say it, possibly even lovers makes me snigger. I just would love to see the younger characters' reactions combined with Mrs A's outraged response of: "What? Just because I'm your mother now means I wasn't allowed to have a wild time when I was a student?"

It's all in the past now in terms of emotions, but they have fond memories of each other and are happy to meet again.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: MooskiNet on 24 Oct 2014, 05:37
You understand there are metric fucktons of money to be made telling stories like that of your own, right?

I'd straight up read that, even if the characters weren't from QC.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Somnus Eternus on 24 Oct 2014, 05:39
You understand there are metric fucktons of money to be made telling stories like that of your own, right?

Evidently I'm in the wrong line of work.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Blackbird on 24 Oct 2014, 05:40
I had a completely diffeent reply in mind when I clicked reply, but then I saw this:  :clairedoge: among the smileys, and now its haunting my psyche.

Seriously. :clairedoge:

What the f*ck?  :clairedoge:

That is the stuff nightmares are made of.

 :clairedoge:
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: MooskiNet on 24 Oct 2014, 05:42
You understand there are metric fucktons of money to be made telling stories like that of your own, right?
Evidently I'm in the wrong line of work.

Okay, maybe not metric fucktons.  Maybe imperial fucktons.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: bhtooefr on 24 Oct 2014, 05:49
One customer who always tipped handsomely and asked for a private dance was one Beatrice Chatham.

That one's been jossed, although I can't find the strip. (It was one where Veronica was asked about Beatrice's kinks, and not having heard anything specific, IIRC.)
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: BenRG on 24 Oct 2014, 05:51
One customer who always tipped handsomely and asked for a private dance was one Beatrice Chatham.

That one's been jossed, although I can't find the strip. (It was one where Veronica was asked about Beatrice's kinks, and not having heard anything specific, IIRC.)

You could dance around it by saying it was Veronica offering a professional courtesy similar to a doctor's keeping a patient's information confidential. :wink:

Besides, have you considered the scale of the lawsuit she'd throw out at anyone who revealed her wild youth to the wider world? Ignoring the "refuse service" picture in every bi adult club on the West Coast... :-P
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: GarandMarine on 24 Oct 2014, 05:58
Noted: Apologies to any marines.

No offense taken.  The drone strikes have been canceled.   :)

The snipers however.... it's also worth noting that "Marine" when referring to members of the United States Marine Corps is a proper noun.

You did nazi this grammar correction coming did you?  :clairedoge:

Speaking of snipers I think Clairemom is an international assassin. That's why she's so relaxed about her daughter's first boyfriend. If Marten messes up...
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Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: valkygrrl on 24 Oct 2014, 06:08
Noted: Apologies to any marines.

No offense taken.  The drone strikes have been canceled.   :)

The snipers however.... it's also worth noting that "Marine" when referring to members of the United States Marine Corps is a proper noun.

You did nazi this grammar correction coming did you?  :clairedoge:

Speaking of snipers I think Clairemom is an international assassin. That's why she's so relaxed about her daughter's first boyfriend. If Marten messes up...
(click to show/hide)

Well Fluttershy can't even fly and Rarity is best pony, so there.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: GarandMarine on 24 Oct 2014, 06:16
I mentioned Rarity is best pony in either this week or last week's WCDT. I just can't find this level of sarcastic glare in any other avatar.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: valkygrrl on 24 Oct 2014, 07:02
I mentioned Rarity is best pony in either this week or last week's WCDT. I just can't find this level of sarcastic glare in any other avatar.

Darn tootin' she's best. You don't see other ponies singing Sondheim.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: jwhouk on 24 Oct 2014, 07:17
Offered without evidence or any reason except the potential for story-telling and lulz:

Former exotic dancer and collaborator to Veronica Vance; now 'gone straight' as a professional home-maker but writes romantic fiction professionally and is one of Tai's artistic idols. As a college student, she and Veronica did a double-act at an adult club in San Francisco. One customer who always tipped handsomely and asked for a private dance was one Beatrice Chatham.

Only one small problem: Veronica has never met her (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1831). 

"I have clients who move in the same circles as her, but I've never heard anything about her kinks." That indicates to me that she has never met Beatrice.

Some would add, "Thank God."
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: BenRG on 24 Oct 2014, 07:20
Only one small problem: Veronica has never met her (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1831). 

"I have clients who move in the same circles as her, but I've never heard anything about her kinks." That indicates to me that she has never met Beatrice.

Some would add, "Thank God."

As I have already said: "Professional confidentiality". :wink:
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 24 Oct 2014, 08:28
I thought you were a musket-Claire.

It is a heavy burden, but I am both.  I have learned to reconcile the two within myself, and learned I am pretty badass :)
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: KOK on 24 Oct 2014, 08:52
She's a marine drill sergeant that's why Claire reacted the way she did to Veronica.

I definitely like this, but I think her being an assassin or a Bene Gesserit is more likely... :D

Maybe she works as a Bene Gesserit and does marine drill sergeantry as a hobby.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 24 Oct 2014, 09:31
She's a marine drill sergeant that's why Claire reacted the way she did to Veronica.

I definitely like this, but I think her being an assassin or a Bene Gesserit is more likely... :D

Maybe she works as a Bene Gesserit and does marine drill sergeantry as a hobby.

Marines aren't Drill Sergeants.....   So her hobby would be drill instructing.  But even still, not with her hair like that she isn't.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: DSL on 24 Oct 2014, 09:48
I instruct a drill by pulling the trigger switch. It responds to that instruction by spinning, unless I've forgotten to plug it in (the older one) or charge the battery (the newer one).
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 24 Oct 2014, 10:04
These are among the many reasons I do my best to avoid marines.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 24 Oct 2014, 11:42
(mod)cough(/mod)
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 24 Oct 2014, 11:43
These are among the many reasons I do my best to avoid marines.

Awww...  :'(   So mean.   We're really cuddly!!    OK... OK...   I'm really cuddly.   

#notallmarines
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Dalillama on 24 Oct 2014, 13:21
Just because it would be so odd for this comic, I vote for something boring and white collar, involving tax law or patents or something.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 24 Oct 2014, 13:39
These are among the many reasons I do my best to avoid marines.

Awww...  :'(   So mean.   We're really cuddly!!    OK... OK...   I'm really cuddly.   

#notallmarines

I will reserve judgment on a cuddly Marine. Never met one.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 24 Oct 2014, 13:57
I will reserve judgment on a cuddly Marine. Never met one.

:'(
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: FunkyTuba on 24 Oct 2014, 14:04
The descriptions in the beginning of this thread of everyone having it so "cushy" made me think a bit.

Specifically, I think we're not getting shown the "not cushy" parts of the individuals' lives unless they're relevant to the story. I don't view this as glossing over as much as economical storytelling.

Case in point: Dale's pretty chill, but his day-to-day life does kind of suck. We got to see some of the less-than-cushy parts while May was tailing along in his Glasses during his work montage. Perhaps this is why he was spending so much time in WoW--a kind of escapism.

Other examples:
May's journey has been less-than-cushy. Jail plus trying to put together a post-release life has been a struggle.

The intern-training montage was where we got to see the less-cushy parts of Marten's job--I mean it is real work, even if you have a cool boss).

We've seen places where Hanners and Cosette experienced the non-cushy parts of working in a coffeeshop (though presumably Cosette is the only one who actually needs to work there for financial reasons).

As for Clairemom, there's simply not enough info. If cheating dad was at all well-off the divorce would have to have set her up reasonably well but she may just as well have superior business acumen and able to support C+C.

I presumed that Clinton lost his hand while he was young enough to still be insured, plus I'd guess that therapeutic technologies are more subsidized in QCverse than in realityverse since they seem so prevalent.

As to rain in QC, see newspost in this comic (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=355):

Re Laser hair removal: I didn't know that about redheads... is it possible to dye the hair to raise the effectiveness?

Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Orkboy on 24 Oct 2014, 14:25
Offered without evidence or any reason except the potential for story-telling and lulz:

Former exotic dancer and collaborator to Veronica Vance; now 'gone straight' as a professional home-maker but writes romantic fiction professionally and is one of Tai's artistic idols. As a college student, she and Veronica did a double-act at an adult club in San Francisco. One customer who always tipped handsomely and asked for a private dance was one Beatrice Chatham.

I came up with this probabilty-defying idea because the thought of Marten, Claire and Hannelore finding out that their mothers were once cronies... possibly friends... or, dare we say it, possibly even lovers makes me snigger. I just would love to see the younger characters' reactions combined with Mrs A's outraged response of: "What? Just because I'm your mother now means I wasn't allowed to have a wild time when I was a student?"

It's all in the past now in terms of emotions, but they have fond memories of each other and are happy to meet again.

Head canon accepted.  Beginning speculation concerning spinoff comic... now.

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: AprilArcus on 24 Oct 2014, 14:38
Re Laser hair removal: I didn't know that about redheads... is it possible to dye the hair to raise the effectiveness?

I don't believe so. The dye would need to penetrate into the part of the hair inside the follicle for that to work.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 24 Oct 2014, 14:39
Re Laser hair removal: I didn't know that about redheads... is it possible to dye the hair to raise the effectiveness?

I don't believe so. The dye would need to penetrate into the part of the hair inside the follicle for that to work.

To confirm, no this does not work.   Electrolysis is about the only solution for some of us.. :(
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Orkboy on 24 Oct 2014, 14:50
I would have thought that the hormone transition thing would diminish hair growth below the scalp.  Also, based on panel three (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2299), the Augustus line does not appear to be terribly hirsute, so it may not have been a problem to begin with.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Neko_Ali on 24 Oct 2014, 14:54
Diminish is not the same as remove though. The hair will still grow, but it will tend to be lighter and softer. You will need some form of hair removal treatment if you want it gone.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 24 Oct 2014, 14:58
Depends on the individual as well.    When I started, most everywhere was reduced, some places all the way, some there's a few hanging on.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Orkboy on 24 Oct 2014, 15:10
Well, who says she got any kind of removal?  Clinton in a speedo suggests that she probably didn't start with much, and razors are cheap and work just fine for most people.  Or maybe she just figures that she's not undressing around anyone and just doesn't worry about it.  Or maybe she's like Delilah (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2617) and just doesn't give a fuck. 

Wait, we went from talking about money to talking about body hair.  We got weird.  Though not as weird as the new smiley.  Seriously, what the hell is this?   :clairedoge:
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 24 Oct 2014, 15:19
I would have thought that the hormone transition thing would diminish hair growth below the scalp.  Also, based on panel three (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2299), the Augustus line does not appear to be terribly hirsute, so it may not have been a problem to begin with.

If I've learned one thing from science, it's that nothing is ever that simple.

:'(

Don't cry. At least not until after you've met me, and it's justifiable.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: AprilArcus on 24 Oct 2014, 15:23
@orkboy - we were talking about facial hair, not body hair. Going Delilah-style isn't a tractable option. And the connection is simple: hair removal is often necessary for trans women and can be expensive.

But I agree that it's unlikely to have been a huge problem for her - even my most masculine natural redhead friends can't really grow a proper beard.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 24 Oct 2014, 16:04
Don't cry. At least not until after you've met me, and it's justifiable.

Generalizations are never justifiable.   :-\
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: MooskiNet on 24 Oct 2014, 16:17
Wait, we went from talking about money to talking about body hair.  We got weird.  Though not as weird as the new smiley.  Seriously, what the hell is this?   :clairedoge:

That would be a hellish (if ultimately cute) combination of bad joke husky and Claire.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 24 Oct 2014, 16:58
Don't cry. At least not until after you've met me, and it's justifiable.

Generalizations are never justifiable.   :-\

True, but I'm not generalizing. You haven't met me. I'm a terrible person. (:
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 24 Oct 2014, 17:01
Well.....  stop that... STOP THAT!

(http://i.imgur.com/nWDM8rc.jpg)
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 24 Oct 2014, 17:17
Aye, aye. I limit my exposure to the internet. Fewer people cry that way.

The Augustus home seems reasonably middle class, and comfortable. Claire's problems don't seem to be particularly related to the minutiae of transition. Jokes aside, I expect her mother has a solid, unremarkable job.

I don't expect to find out what it is. Unless the dreams of many come true, and Veronica and Claire's mom conspire, I don't expect to see much more of her.

Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: valkygrrl on 24 Oct 2014, 17:31
Don't cry. At least not until after you've met me, and it's justifiable.

Generalizations are never justifiable.   :-\

True, but I'm not generalizing. You haven't met me. I'm a terrible person. (:

Terrible to a musket-Claire isn't advisable.

All for one...
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 24 Oct 2014, 17:40
Don't cry. At least not until after you've met me, and it's justifiable.

Generalizations are never justifiable.   :-\

True, but I'm not generalizing. You haven't met me. I'm a terrible person. (:

Terrible to a musket-Claire isn't advisable.

All for one...

And all for cheese!!!   mmmmm Manchego...
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Neko_Ali on 24 Oct 2014, 18:01
oooh, That is a gouda one.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: valkygrrl on 24 Oct 2014, 18:03
ooo frommage funnies.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 24 Oct 2014, 18:10
I'm on a roll!!!   Just listening to some R&Brie!!!  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 24 Oct 2014, 18:44
I thought it was Muskrat Claires.

I must have miss-heard. Anyway, I'm not being terrible to. Terrible is just my general state. For example, at the moment I am unable decide between procrastination, character development (which would also be procrastination), or a bacon cheeseburger. This should be a simple choice.

None of which has anything to do with the topic or musket claire-ing. In the latter case, all I know of that stuff is "the pointy end goes into the other man," and I don't have an inexplicably Mexican Anthony Hopkins to teach me better.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Carl-E on 24 Oct 2014, 19:05
OK, 2 things. 
1) Clairedoge showed up in the puns thread (I think), and got added immediately.  If you haven't seen the original post, you need to. 

2) cuddly (ex)marines: May I introduce my father?  He's the one on the left (despite the fact that the other one's named "Eddie").  Used to play Santa before his back went out. 

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5616/15433831087_82bd9346d5.jpg)
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 24 Oct 2014, 19:46
Thanks, Carl-E
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 24 Oct 2014, 20:03
There's a difference between "I haven't met any" and "I don't believe they exist." I haven't met any Inuit, that I am aware of. I'm sure they exist.

Unless we really are all figments of Hanners's imagination.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 24 Oct 2014, 20:09
I drink therefore I am....
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 24 Oct 2014, 20:16
I am, therefore I drink...

...liquor bought with Claire's mom's money.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 24 Oct 2014, 20:20
Liquour??? I don't even know her!!    :clairedoge:
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: valkygrrl on 24 Oct 2014, 20:33
Liquour??? I don't even know her!!    :clairedoge:

Awww, a little thing like that wouldn't stop Tai. Are you saying Tai is braver than you?
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: snarkyone on 24 Oct 2014, 20:36
You did not.... no...  I ... but...   hey.....    ugh......     NOOOO.....  :P
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 24 Oct 2014, 20:53
Who is she and does she have a SO? Is she even interested? If not it would be creepy and criminal. That kinda thing would stop Tai.

And now that we know what can stop her, it's only a matter of time before she's defeated.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 24 Oct 2014, 22:46
She was a redhead assassin expert with a stiletto.

He was a foul-mouthed dickcissel.

Together, they are Cloaca and Dagger.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Carl-E on 24 Oct 2014, 23:19
(http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/122/187/1187122.gif)
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Noxx on 01 Nov 2014, 10:19
It is likely that Clintons accident resulted in significant litigation.

His hand and its costs may be covered as a pilot program by EC. 
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: bhtooefr on 01 Nov 2014, 10:24
The hand's actually a cheaper non-EC-produced model, though.

Meaning that the technology's been around long enough for there to be clones of the EC tech. Which either means there's patent violations going around, EC didn't do anything actually patentable on the hand, the hand tech's been around for ~20+ years in the QCverse, or EC's licensing to low-cost manufacturers (and then selling high-quality models under their own brand - that way, the tech can get out there, and they can get the licensing fees off the cheap imitators without hurting their reputation for quality).

However, in any of those cases, a pilot program is quite unlikely.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Dalillama on 01 Nov 2014, 11:17
OK, 2 things. 
1) Clairedoge showed up in the puns thread (I think), and got added immediately.  If you haven't seen the original post, you need to. 
When I saw the icon, I thought it was a Clairewolf, for Halloween.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: cesium133 on 01 Nov 2014, 11:21
Clairewolf? There. There wolf.  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: K1dmor on 01 Nov 2014, 13:56
When I saw the icon, I thought it was a Clairewolf, for Halloween.

 
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: MooskiNet on 01 Nov 2014, 14:19
That had better not awaken something in me.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Zebediah on 01 Nov 2014, 14:41
That's more of a Clairefox.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: K1dmor on 01 Nov 2014, 15:22
  ^
 (http://i.imgur.com/R576wDD.jpg)
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: jwhouk on 01 Nov 2014, 17:40
  ^
 (http://i.imgur.com/R576wDD.jpg)

WIN.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: cesium133 on 01 Nov 2014, 18:36
  ^
 (http://i.imgur.com/R576wDD.jpg)

WIN.
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Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 01 Nov 2014, 19:08
Classic!
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Undrneath on 09 Nov 2014, 11:43
@orkboy - we were talking about facial hair, not body hair. Going Delilah-style isn't a tractable option. And the connection is simple: hair removal is often necessary for trans women and can be expensive.

But I agree that it's unlikely to have been a huge problem for her - even my most masculine natural redhead friends can't really grow a proper beard.


I happen to be a particularly hirsute ginger so :-P
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: cesariojpn on 09 Nov 2014, 14:09
When I saw the icon, I thought it was a Clairewolf, for Halloween.

 
(click to show/hide)

Best Vulpix Gijinka Cosplay ever.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Carl-E on 09 Nov 2014, 14:22
@orkboy - we were talking about facial hair, not body hair. Going Delilah-style isn't a tractable option. And the connection is simple: hair removal is often necessary for trans women and can be expensive.

But I agree that it's unlikely to have been a huge problem for her - even my most masculine natural redhead friends can't really grow a proper beard.


I happen to be a particularly hirsute ginger so :-P

My beard used to be mostly red.  The red hairs are the white ones now, the black ones still are...
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: AprilArcus on 09 Nov 2014, 17:25
@orkboy - we were talking about facial hair, not body hair. Going Delilah-style isn't a tractable option. And the connection is simple: hair removal is often necessary for trans women and can be expensive.

But I agree that it's unlikely to have been a huge problem for her - even my most masculine natural redhead friends can't really grow a proper beard.


I happen to be a particularly hirsute ginger so :-P

My beard used to be mostly red.  The red hairs are the white ones now, the black ones still are...

Well, my beard was thick and copper-red too (I had to get hundreds of hours of electrolysis, it completely sucked), but my hair is brown. Claire and Clinton are drawn to suggest something closer to Rupert Grint's coloration than mine.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Storel on 10 Nov 2014, 02:29
Well, my beard was thick and copper-red too (I had to get hundreds of hours of electrolysis, it completely sucked), but my hair is brown. Claire and Clinton are drawn to suggest something closer to Rupert Grint's coloration than mine.

It sounds like we have very similar coloring. My hair is brown and my beard is (was) thick and slightly reddish-brown. I wouldn't call it copper red, but enough red to be noticeable. At my current age of 53, the beard is more gray than brown, but the hair is still almost entirely brown, with only very occasional strands of gray. (My father's hair was still salt-and-pepper, in about equal amounts, when he passed away at 72, and he still had a full head of hair, so I have no worries about going bald.)

My twin sister's hair was indeed copper red, or maybe auburn would be closer, and gorgeous, but she didn't have the ultra-pale skin and freckles commonly associated with "gingers", e.g. Rupert Grint. We're 1/4 German, 1/4 Polish, 1/4 English, and 1/4 Scottish, so I figure the red hair came from the Scottish part. Nobody else on either side of the family had red hair that I can recall, though.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Noxx on 10 Nov 2014, 10:28

@orkboy - we were talking about facial hair, not body hair. Going Delilah-style isn't a tractable option. And the connection is simple: hair removal is often necessary for trans women and can be expensive.

But I agree that it's unlikely to have been a huge problem for her - even my most masculine natural redhead friends can't really grow a proper beard.


I happen to be a particularly hirsute ginger so :-P

My beard used to be mostly red.  The red hairs are the white ones now, the black ones still are...

It's a wildly persistent gene. My father and I both have a random dose of red in our beards from his mother. Like you, that went white or gray first.

Every other influence in our family hair is black, black, black. That ginger root always seems to crop up tho.
Title: Re: Clairemom's income?
Post by: Undrneath on 10 Nov 2014, 12:02
I'm kinda like Conan O'Brian redder than red hair and pale and pasty skin.